Aquiring a 7+ in America - Samsung Galaxy Tab Plus

Samsung really ought to thank Barns & Nobles and Amazon. Lots of people bought these devices for the holiday, realized they're poor excuses for tablets, and returned them.
And now the more expensive galaxy tab, only 100 or so more saltier than the above craplets, is a viable choice. I wouldn't have paid 400 for one, but now with the cheaper price at best buy, it's only a hundred dollar jump from the nook tab. Especially, if you opt to pick it up from a store in a tax free state.
Has anyone found a better (lower than $350) price, or even the same price at somewhere other than Best Buy? They are sold out in literally a 50 mile radius around from where I live. I would hate to see the price go back to $400 before I get my grubby mitts on one.
Hey, it's a good sign, no? The more popular the device, the greater liklihood of great and diverse dev support, right?
Duely blundered from my thunderdolt

Amazon has them for 349.99. No tax in most states.. Very easy return if you have a problem with it.

Got my GT7+ brand new for $299 (before tax) at CompUSA. But that's because it was an unadvertised store special on Black Friday.
I'm sure they are back to the usual $399. Still, my belief is that everything is negotiable. Ask to talk with a manager and try to swing a deal, say a lower price on the tablet as long as you purchase a memory card with it or a case or some other accessory. Can't hurt to ask.

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Thoughts on G tablet Woot deal

Someone posted that over 10,000 were sold yesterday. I always wondered about that site and how they could make any money, but figure this, if they made $10 a piece on each that is one incredible day for even many of the larger retailers.
I thought this was going to be great for the G tablet community with which it would make Viewsonic take notice and develop more for this product.
But what if many who bought were resellers jumping on a bargain (my bet). Still eventually if they sold it would still be good.
I always thought the Apple fanatics were really out there standing in lines to buy the latest until it was explained that many were buying to resell and sell higher than retail. Still dopes to pay but does explain more.
The thing is there's little to be made for any who plan to resell. These retail for $350 to $370 and after ebay, paypal, and shipping fees we're only looking at maybe a $20 to $30 profit. Plus with woot limiting the amount you can buy I really think most of the G-Tablets sold yesterday were to people genuinely interested in the product. Well, at least I was one.
D Wright said:
Someone posted that over 10,000 were sold yesterday. I always wondered about that site and how they could make any money, but figure this, if they made $10 a piece on each that is one incredible day for even many of the larger retailers.
I thought this was going to be great for the G tablet community with which it would make Viewsonic take notice and develop more for this product.
But what if many who bought were resellers jumping on a bargain (my bet). Still eventually if they sold it would still be good.
I always thought the Apple fanatics were really out there standing in lines to buy the latest until it was explained that many were buying to resell and sell higher than retail. Still dopes to pay but does explain more.
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I know that our customer support group purchased quite a few of these yesterday .
I had been prodding them toward getting these as our mobile platform for a while, was super happy they came up on woot
I agree that most who got woot deals yesterday were buying for home use and not re-sell. People have been seeing the Gtab, and even through all the exxcitment of the xoom, interest in it was picking up. This just goes to show people are smarter with their money than given credit for and it gives a clear message that we are not willing to pay 6 to 8 hundred dollars for hype and a carrier contract.
I bought mine for personal use. I've been on the fence and could not pass up this deal.
I honestly had my heart set on the iPad 2 pre release, but then once I saw it didn't have retina and the price was still relatively expensive (for a 32gb 3G), I figured I might as well save my money. Once the woot deal came on, I did some research and stumbled across this community, and how couldn't I buy the product for just $280? I just signed up to this forum this week and I'm already addicted reading up on how everyone is modding their gTab. Thanks in advance to all the mods who will make my experience a pleasant one..
Bought mine for personal use as well. Been on the fence for a while over a tablet saw the woot, liked the price and after some research here and elsewhere decided with some fairly simple tweaks this would fit all my needs in a tablet.
Bought mine for personal use and work. Part of my job is providing support for my company's mobile apps, and it is much more convenient to have my own than dig up where the company hardware is hiding. I also have a toddler and we are going on a 4 hr plane trip next month, so I couldn't pass up the opportunity for an electronic babysitter for the trip at this price. (There may be toddler/mom deathmatches over who gets to use it as both of us are geeks)
Bought mine for personal use yesterday too.
I can't wait
Hi purchased the nook color when it was 200 bucks for ebay. and i love it.
It is used at my restaurant as digital photo album / menu
the face that you can grab it with one hand and do demonstrations with it is awesome.
But it is lacking in some ways.
Purchased the gtab for personal use, front facing camera etc. I dont know how usable it will be, but I am hoping the dual core processor helps things out more.
honestly loading webpages on the NC with dolphin or skyfire was ok. but not great, and it definitely could not unseat my netbook that i also carry around with me wherever i go.
I think 285 bucks delivered for a dual core tablet with these specs and the best user group community on the planet (XDA) which has always helped me with my droid1, fascinate (for a friend) nook color, and now gtab... is a super steal. to borrow the words of another forum post: Lucky mofos.
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Well, at least I was one.
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So was I! This is going to be my first foray into tablet computing. At such a low price with real hardware, this going to let me get my feet wet, and if I hate it, i'm sure i can sell it at just a slight loss. Hoping I love it though!
Was in for one as well, though I'd just grabbed a Nook Color (just before that eBay deal); was impressed with how much more usable the larger screen was, and how much it felt like I was trying to work with a postage stamp when I swapped back to my G2.
Then this came up, and couldn't resist long enough for them to sell out.
Actually ended up sucking a few friends in as well..
I had no idea the makers of my TV made a tablet. I jumped on this when I read the specs. Hopefully Woot doesn't take more than a month for this thing to ship out.
to good a deal to pass up....needed a new toy to play with
I just picked up the NC a few days ago. I never even heard of the gtab until it popped up on woot. I've returned my NC.. the hardware on the gtab for the price can't be beat.
Just watch ebay. Yesterday there was one gTab listed with 7 days left current price of like $180. I think there will be lost on there and the price will end up falling on ebay and people wont be able to sell them for much (if any) more then they bought them for.
I plan on keeping mine. Bought it for personal use. Wanted a galaxy tab, but didn't want a contract or to spend 400-500.
I can survive a $280 fight with my wife, not a $500 one.
Good deal, bought for personal use also.
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Just watch ebay. Yesterday there was one gTab listed with 7 days left current price of like $180. I think there will be lost on there and the price will end up falling on ebay and people wont be able to sell them for much (if any) more then they bought them for.
I plan on keeping mine. Bought it for personal use. Wanted a galaxy tab, but didn't want a contract or to spend 400-500.
I can survive a $280 fight with my wife, not a $500 one.
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One closed yesterday around $315 after paypal and ebay fees you'd lose a bit of money on the deal. Personally I bought one for me, just wnated to see ebay pricing in case I didn't like it.
Given that only about 3% of purchasers purchased 3 at once I doubt that very many were purchased for resale.
same with me, you took the words right out of my mouth

Xoom wifi drops $10 after one day release?

Best buy now selling Xoom wifi at 589
Yep, WiFi only $589.99
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Motorol...1218305633252&skuId=1946197&st=xoom&cp=1&lp=1
3G version also dropped to $789.99
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Motorol...1218305636450&skuId=1946179&st=xoom&cp=1&lp=2
Let's see the Costco response to $579!!
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Best buy now selling Xoom wifi at 589
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Doesn't surprise me at all. I expect prices to go down much further in the coming months. From my one month experience with the Xoom, most people ask me if I am using an iPad. And when I say it is a Xoom Android tablet, I get a look of confusion. That is the problem coming late to the party. Maybe the iPad 2 shortages will help make people more aware that there are other options like Xoom. I just wish Google would get all of the missing features fixed (microSD card) along with better stability with apps. The frustration with force closures of existing apps on the Xoom will frustrate clueless consumers. The compatibility checks being done on Google Market and Amazon appstore are a joke right now. Getting the market apps to not allow download if it is going to force close is a huge first step to a better user experience.
Who care if it drops $10.00. I've already used it and enjoy it since Friday. Over 3 days of playing with it. Would I return it and buy it for $10.00 lower. Heck no.
Would they ever drop another $50.00? Not any time soon. Keep in mind that the sweet spot price range has already been established by Apple to be the norm. That is $599.99 for 32GB WIFI device. So no matter if it is Motorola, Samsung, or LG. As long as the spec is comparable, if not better and has 32GB. They will try to price it close if not exact.
Everyone want a piece of the pie Apple baked. Late or not, there are plenty of pie for everyone. We live in the world of over 3 billions people. You think there is a PERFECT device for everyone. Nope.
I think what'll happen is that Moto will come out with a different SKU with less "stuff," say 16GB storage and no GPS, and price it at the $499 level. This both justifies the current Xoom pricing, at the same time allow the Xoom to be price-competitive.
I think the price drop has more to do with trying to compete with Costco and Sams clubs competitive pricing from the beginning, don't think too much should be read into this.
Amazon was also offering the wifi version for $589 during the pre order period long before it was released.
You should be able to just take the receipt in and they adjust the price...I did mine yesterday.
OH NO A PRICE DROP AFTER ONE DAY! THEY MUST BE DISCONTINUING OUR DEVICE! WHAT WILL WE EVER DO! DAMN THAT PRICE COMPETITION AND MULTIPLE VENDORS!!!!
There, am I doing it right?
guess what, costo is now selling it for 589
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guess what, costo is now selling it for 589
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Costco has been selling the wifi xoom for $589 from day 1. It is actually the other retailers like amazon and best buy that are trying to match costco's price point.
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Costco has been selling the wifi xoom for $589 from day 1. It is actually the other retailers like amazon and best buy that are trying to match costco's price point.
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Yep. The difference is the required costco membership if u don't already have it. And from my experience buying one yesterday they're getting extremely tight on people buying them with friends and even families member cards.
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Yep. The difference is the required costco membership if u don't already have it. And from my experience buying one yesterday they're getting extremely tight on people buying them with friends and even families member cards.
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Seems like you could go in there with cash and they wouldn't bat an eye at it
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Seems like you could go in there with cash and they wouldn't bat an eye at it
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It still has to be your membership card matching your ID. They checked when I bought mine.
Went in to Best Buy today to pick up a WiFi XOOM for the $589 price, and was amazed that they had none at all in stock. Very disappointing.
In fact all my local Best Buy stores list the XOOM WiFi as "ship to store" rather than in stock.
In additon, they had a big sign under the XOOM display for the Verizon subsidized pricing: $600 price is only with a 10 GB/month contract for $80/month! That floored me.
To add insult to injury, if you opt for a 5GB/month contract the XOOM is $650!
and that contract is $50 per month. They didn't even mention the $20 1GB contract.
Its almost like the retailers want the XOOM to fail. Of course the salesman had no trouble producing a 64GB wifi version of the iPad2, which he actually had in stock. I ended up walking out.
Guess I'm going to try Staples next.
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Went in to Best Buy today to pick up a WiFi XOOM for the $589 price, and was amazed that they had none at all in stock. Very disappointing.
In additon, they had a big sign under the XOOM display for the Verizon subsidized pricing: $600 price is only with a 10 GB/month contract for $80/month! That floored me.
To add insult to injury, if you opt for a 5GB/month contract the XOOM is $650!
and that contract is $50 per month. They didn't even mention the $20 1GB contract.
Its almost like the retailers want the XOOM to fail. Of course the salesman had no trouble producing a 64GB wifi version of the iPad2, which he actually had in stock. I ended up walking out.
Guess I'm going to try Staples next.
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This thread is pertaining to the WiFi version, not the 3G version, btw. But either way...
The plan deals for the 3G version are the same from every store, on account that its contracted through Verizon for data. Verizon charges that much for every data device (laptops, USB sticks, and tablets). Costco even rebates back your activation fee after 3 months of service. Be mad at Verizon for their data prices, not Costco for advertising them.
I'm surprised they had iPad 2s available. They're sold out most places.
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This thread is pertaining to the WiFi version, not the 3G version, btw. But either way...
The plan deals for the 3G version are the same from every store, on account that its contracted through Verizon for data. Verizon charges that much for every data device (laptops, USB sticks, and tablets). Costco even rebates back your activation fee after 3 months of service. Be mad at Verizon for their data prices, not Costco for advertising them.
I'm surprised they had iPad 2s available. They're sold out most places.
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I know, not blaming Best Buy for that, just added it as an aside, because I hadn't realized that they try to push you into the $80 plan for the $600 price and then scalp you for an extra $50 when they get you on the $50 plan - Verizon is just unreal with their pricing.
I do blame Best Buy for not having any WiFi XOOMs available though. I mean, come on, Best Buy is a major electronics chain. Even staples lists them in stock by now.
And the "ship to store" on their website isn't very encouraging. Makes me wonder if they will only be ordering them on request.
The iPad 2 thing took me by surprise too. I just asked, expecting them to say no, but the salesman said he had 2, and even went in back and brought out one box to show me.
Have to admint, I was tempted there for a moment. Even if I had decided to go the iPad 2 route, both of them were white, and I never really liked the white one anyway...
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I know, not blaming Best Buy for that, just added it as an aside, because I hadn't realized that they try to push you into the $80 plan for the $600 price and then scalp you for an extra $50 when they get you on the $50 plan - Verizon is just unreal with their pricing.
I do blame Best Buy for not having any WiFi XOOMs available though. I mean, come on, Best Buy is a major electronics chain. Even staples lists them in stock by now.
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Well again that's Verizons plan pricing. Best Buy has to advertise the exact way that Verizon advertises for the 3G version.
Best Buy has been this way forever as far as only having a limited number of units. For many major launches they honestly only have 4-5 units per store. Best Buy has to spread out their stock to all the different stores. Again, blame Motorola for not shipping enough units, not Best Buy for only having a few at launch lol.
Personally my local Costco had a rack full of these things in 2 different displays on the floor. It really depends which store you're in and how many people were interested in the product.
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Costco has been selling the wifi xoom for $589 from day 1. It is actually the other retailers like amazon and best buy that are trying to match costco's price point.
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Yes.
Too bad they can't match a 90 day open box return policy and free extended warranty. Not to mention a free gel case as well.
Sent from my Xoom

So long g-tab!!!!

I am selling my G-Tab...going to try to get a Honeycomb tablet. I have the Following:
Good Condition G-Tablet
Box w/Docs
USB cable
A/C Adapter
***BONUS****
The Keyboard/Case
(http://www.amazon.com/Viewsonic-G-T...9N1O/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1301587480&sr=8-1)
All for just $375 w/ FREE Shipping in my paypal account (US Only unless you want to pay the difference in shipping)
PM me with offers and questions
Dude most people here would not buy the G-Tab for more then $300. They had a $280 woot the other day. Sell it for $300 and you will get bites.
Amazon has it for $340.
Also, Get the $400 Asus eee honeycomb that is coming out for Best buy. $150 more but you get IPS and honeycomb.
This post makes me sad . Ordered my Woot tablet last week for $279.99 and it arrives today! I don't want to see someone selling!
and yeah considering like half the people here now got a tablet on woot, good luck for selling it for a hair over $284.99.
I hate to say it, these folks are right, your price is a little high. You may want to wait and let the fine devs do their thing to provide us with a nice honeycomb rom.
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I hate to say it, these folks are right, your price is a little high.
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You can't blame him. He probably got it when the gtab was still in the $350-400 range.
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PS - My elderly dad wants one after he saw me using it. He mainly wants to use it to surf the net while sitting on his comfortable chair and have a 10 inch screen gps. I'm waiting for it to go sub 300 again to buy it for him.
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I am selling my G-Tab...going to try to get a Honeycomb tablet. I have the Following:
Good Condition G-Tablet
Box w/Docs
USB cable
A/C Adapter
***BONUS****
The Keyboard/Case
(http://www.amazon.com/Viewsonic-G-T...9N1O/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1301587480&sr=8-1)
All for just $375 w/ FREE Shipping in my paypal account (US Only unless you want to pay the difference in shipping)
PM me with offers and questions
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You will be disappointed with honeycomb in its current state.. I'm just saying .
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You can't blame him. He probably got it when the gtab was still in the $350-400 range.
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PS - My elderly dad wants one after he saw me using it. He mainly wants to use it to surf the net while sitting on his comfortable chair and have a 10 inch screen gps. I'm waiting for it to go sub 300 again to buy it for him.
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Keep your eyes on TigerDirect -- I got mine for $307 shipped, surely there will be another discount code soon.
supermiah said:
I am selling my G-Tab...going to try to get a Honeycomb tablet. I have the Following:
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If your buying the ASUS "Transformer" make sure you order the optional wheels.
mattrb said:
Dude most people here would not buy the G-Tab for more then $300. They had a $280 woot the other day. Sell it for $300 and you will get bites.
Amazon has it for $340.
Also, Get the $400 Asus eee honeycomb that is coming out for Best buy. $150 more but you get IPS and honeycomb.
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Considering that it is looking like that Asus will be closer to £400 than $400, I wouldn't be in a rush to trade up to it just yet. $150 for IPS and honeycomb is one thing, $300+ is another.
arentol said:
Considering that it is looking like that Asus will be closer to £400 than $400, I wouldn't be in a rush to trade up to it just yet. $150 for IPS and honeycomb is one thing, $300+ is another.
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Don't always compare pricing from other countries to how US pricing will work out. Companies rarely do that themselves. For example a 160gb ps3 on amazon uk that's been discounted from 255 pounds to 229 pounds. 229 pounds is $369 that same ps3 sells on Amazon's US website for $299.99 $70 less than the Brit's discounted price. The UK usually gets shafted the most when it comes to electronic prices so they're the worse to convert to what the US price will be.
After finding out about the Asus Eee Transformer yesterday, I immediately sold my gTablet for $280 on Craig's List (which included an extra AC adapter and the Mazata dock). That's what I had paid for it myself a few weeks ago, so I'm breaking even. If the retail prices for the Transformer floating around on the Internet are accurate, that could be a killer tablet. I can't wait to get my hands on one of these puppies!
Ron
Well guys, I must admit... I had some fun with the gtablet... for a couple days. Then my mom came over last night and flashed her iPad 2. I know these devices are different, but the screen is SO much better. And it's so much lighter! In any case, the gtablet is not for me. I've put mine on eBay. I started the bidding at 1 cent, and I have 100% seller rating so I know some of you are looking for a second tablet - this might be your chance!

In need of gtab

New user here. Would like to pick up a reasonable priced gtab for my wife. Anyone have on for sale? Thanks
I have one that you can have it with the box for $265 shipped. I have it rooted running CM7.
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I was hoping to get closer to $200 or lower.
I am going to keep mine. Sorry I can't go that low.
I might have a deal for you. Give me a day to think it over though.
anyone have one for sale under 200? Would like to get one for my mom for mothers day ^_^
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anyone have one for sale under 200? Would like to get one for my mom for mothers day ^_^
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The only gtab that was sold for under $200 on this forum had a cracked glass.
I think the retail stores are still $300+ tax so $200 is a little cheap. I can't see it going that cheap until way down the road. Even $300 since the eee pad is going to be $400 (if you can find one) is not unreasonable.
I have a sealed in the box I'd let go. $310 and I'd be happy, which is a few bucks less than retail at least.
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New user here. Would like to pick up a reasonable priced gtab for my wife. Anyone have on for sale? Thanks
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I have one that I want to sell. It has the original OS so you can tweak yourself.
Asking price is $275.00
theroblog.com said:
I have a sealed in the box I'd let go. $310 and I'd be happy, which is a few bucks less than retail at least.
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For sure you would be happy, but I highly doubt the buyer would be.
$310 right now is as unreasonable as these sub $200 requests, mainly because you can get one brand new in box with full 12 months manufacturer warranty shipped to your door for $275 all in from amazon.
Buy with any major credit card and you get another 12 months of warranty on top (for the same $275 all in).
That said, even at more common $300 (all in current gtab retail price), the extra $100 for a BNIB transformer is well justified (IMHO) given the IPS screen, native HC, built in GPS and docking ability.
To be fair, $250 with some accessories seems to be the norm on this board, which makes sense given that any of the accessories I have seen offered would have cost at least another $30~$50 (cases, docking station or skinomi's)
Would this get even lower ? hell yes, but not now, just wait till the transformer has enough stock for them to start sales.
As some has pointed before, your best chance at getting the maximum possible offer is a private sale to an unsuspecting neighbor via CL or Kijiji.
Best of luck any way ..

Authorized Retailer Pricing?

Ok so I always get my phone from Bestbuy or directly from Verizon based on online deals or specials going on when contract is up. Since when was Bestbuy pricing 700$ out of contract compared to $569 of VZ? They always when I checked with is every few months very similar in price. Now I have $300 buyback from previous upgrade done few months ago but considering locking in a second line to 4g Unlimited plan before it is too late.
So just curious did the Retail price 3rd party can sell agreement with Verizon change I was under impression to be Authorized reseller unless you were running a valid promotion, special you had to be in similar price range to Verizon?
I wouldn't be complaining normally but to have to cough up $700 for a retail price over Verizon cost of already high $569 seems way out of wack. I know the phones are 4g and high end but man didn't realize 3rd party places that were once better options now don't even try to compete with Big Reds pricing.
Forgive me if there was some post detailing Bestbuy cost going up or possible changes to why Verizon offers lower cost then retailers selling same phones on their behalf.
If you raise enough hell, best buy will match the VZW price. You just have to prove that the corporate store is charging 569 outright.
BBY will price match VZW... Best buy inflates their retail pricing to negate customers from buying it wo a contract(that's where they make their $$)
They will price match the online price or CS price cause they are not the same not a huge difference I just want to know which price to fight for? Is this generally something they are going to be pricks about I mean I have bought the phone I am going to bring back for the Buy Back Credit and purchased Black Tie Protection I can't imagine they would be to stuborn. I just want equal price and have no problem paying 569-599 at all obviously would be minus 300 GC I would get from the Buyback program.
If you were to come into my store and ask for a price match (I work at best buy), and you planned on getting blacktie and buyback, we would match without question. Other stores may be different, but the margin would be made up with those two components.
Sorry I should of been more clear on the phone I am going to trade in I had Blacktie and Buyback. This phone is to lock in 4g plan before July 7th so I would get Blacktie but no Buyback this time and previous phone is 3ish month old Fascinate. I have 2 Pc's, 2 HDTV and like 5 previous phones and everything has been with Blacktie.
I just want to know if I would be better of having proof cause I have no idea what a storefront of Verizons here has for anything showing retail price, but if I have to go out of my way to prove it. Due to BB not matching "online" prices I will cause I sure am not paying extra 125$ for same phone lol.
Really thank you all for advice so far I usually get great people when I work with Best Buy and after all Zagg shields the mobile department has put on my rounds of bad Thunderbolts they know my acount before they even pull me up as to what I have for phones ect. I just know it was like pulling teeth to get them to replace my non-fuctional Incredible after 2 seperate repairs to get a new device and had to talk to store manager before I got it done without a 3rd repair shipment.
Just bring it in the retail pricing from the online (I work at BBY Mobile PT as well) and Id match it
find the kid who hates his job at best buy and he'll price match it without talking to a manager. i work at best buy and do it all the time.
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If you were to come into my store and ask for a price match (I work at best buy), and you planned on getting blacktie and buyback, we would match without question. Other stores may be different, but the margin would be made up with those two components.
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Word to the wise. Don't anyone ever get black tie. Its a scam.
I would generally agree to that last post but in my case because Best Buy has the lemon policy on repairing or attempting to fix issues. I went from Incredible that went 2.2 update came out dropped a packet and caused horrible call quality an hardware / software issues. Got me a $600 equal retail value Giftcard that put me into my Thunderbolt. Generally speaking insurance is never needed but I get it to be safe on my high end phones.
Also had to speak with a manager but the Buyback process and getting into the Charge was a painless experience and they gave it to me for $599 cause they know how much business I do there. Thanks for all the help.

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