Authorized Retailer Pricing? - Thunderbolt General

Ok so I always get my phone from Bestbuy or directly from Verizon based on online deals or specials going on when contract is up. Since when was Bestbuy pricing 700$ out of contract compared to $569 of VZ? They always when I checked with is every few months very similar in price. Now I have $300 buyback from previous upgrade done few months ago but considering locking in a second line to 4g Unlimited plan before it is too late.
So just curious did the Retail price 3rd party can sell agreement with Verizon change I was under impression to be Authorized reseller unless you were running a valid promotion, special you had to be in similar price range to Verizon?
I wouldn't be complaining normally but to have to cough up $700 for a retail price over Verizon cost of already high $569 seems way out of wack. I know the phones are 4g and high end but man didn't realize 3rd party places that were once better options now don't even try to compete with Big Reds pricing.
Forgive me if there was some post detailing Bestbuy cost going up or possible changes to why Verizon offers lower cost then retailers selling same phones on their behalf.

If you raise enough hell, best buy will match the VZW price. You just have to prove that the corporate store is charging 569 outright.

BBY will price match VZW... Best buy inflates their retail pricing to negate customers from buying it wo a contract(that's where they make their $$)

They will price match the online price or CS price cause they are not the same not a huge difference I just want to know which price to fight for? Is this generally something they are going to be pricks about I mean I have bought the phone I am going to bring back for the Buy Back Credit and purchased Black Tie Protection I can't imagine they would be to stuborn. I just want equal price and have no problem paying 569-599 at all obviously would be minus 300 GC I would get from the Buyback program.

If you were to come into my store and ask for a price match (I work at best buy), and you planned on getting blacktie and buyback, we would match without question. Other stores may be different, but the margin would be made up with those two components.

Sorry I should of been more clear on the phone I am going to trade in I had Blacktie and Buyback. This phone is to lock in 4g plan before July 7th so I would get Blacktie but no Buyback this time and previous phone is 3ish month old Fascinate. I have 2 Pc's, 2 HDTV and like 5 previous phones and everything has been with Blacktie.
I just want to know if I would be better of having proof cause I have no idea what a storefront of Verizons here has for anything showing retail price, but if I have to go out of my way to prove it. Due to BB not matching "online" prices I will cause I sure am not paying extra 125$ for same phone lol.
Really thank you all for advice so far I usually get great people when I work with Best Buy and after all Zagg shields the mobile department has put on my rounds of bad Thunderbolts they know my acount before they even pull me up as to what I have for phones ect. I just know it was like pulling teeth to get them to replace my non-fuctional Incredible after 2 seperate repairs to get a new device and had to talk to store manager before I got it done without a 3rd repair shipment.

Just bring it in the retail pricing from the online (I work at BBY Mobile PT as well) and Id match it

find the kid who hates his job at best buy and he'll price match it without talking to a manager. i work at best buy and do it all the time.

hackabusa said:
If you were to come into my store and ask for a price match (I work at best buy), and you planned on getting blacktie and buyback, we would match without question. Other stores may be different, but the margin would be made up with those two components.
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Word to the wise. Don't anyone ever get black tie. Its a scam.

I would generally agree to that last post but in my case because Best Buy has the lemon policy on repairing or attempting to fix issues. I went from Incredible that went 2.2 update came out dropped a packet and caused horrible call quality an hardware / software issues. Got me a $600 equal retail value Giftcard that put me into my Thunderbolt. Generally speaking insurance is never needed but I get it to be safe on my high end phones.
Also had to speak with a manager but the Buyback process and getting into the Charge was a painless experience and they gave it to me for $599 cause they know how much business I do there. Thanks for all the help.

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Wife doesn't care for Captivate...May be selling it

She is not as tech savy as I am and Feels she won;t use 80% of the phone and would rather have my N97 as she knows Symbian....So I may be selling her week old Captivate. (Or keep it as a back up)
What should I ask for it on a BUY IN NOW basis on Ebay. I have 102 feedback and 100% positive (Tombo7777) I don;t want bidding jut put up a good price for a qucil sale should she decide for sure. Anything less that $300 and I will likely keep it as a back up to mine. As Insurance costs $5 a month with a $100 deductable. I don;t buy Extended Warranties on anythingor phone insurance,
Ask for $400
Galaxy s rules while the rest. Well they just lumber behind and drool.
I would say as BUY IT NOW, maybe $380 if you want a pretty quick sale.
week old, sell price online for new without contract from afew places is around 499$ so anywhere from 375-450$ would be good. but then again if you unlock it you could get another $100 for it be unlocked so like 450-550$
YEah I am not sure if I want to sell it yet. She needs to use the N97 for a week (as long as she had the Sammy) before I feel she will make an informed choice. In the mean time I am using it as a "training device" for me. Rooting, unrooting installing ROMS etc....So fasr I am able to go form JF6 to JH7 and to Froyo and back without issues using Master Clear. I want to become fluent in Android as I believe this will be the platform for all my phones in the future.
N97s are going for nearly $300!!!!! I would not be too brokenhearted if she decided to keep the Captivate. The Samsung is worth more than $100 over the N97 I would think.. Damm.
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I would say as BUY IT NOW, maybe $380 if you want a pretty quick sale.
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Yeah thats what i do on Ebay....Low priced Buy It Now....with zero minimums. I sold two contract 32GB 3GS iphones for $600 two weeks after they were released within minutes of posting....In fact I decided not to sell one and try it out for another week to make sure I did not like it.....and then sold it again within minutes.
I paid ATT $150 for both phones so $350 plus PP and Ebay costs is likely what I would sell it for BIN. If I unlock it I'll add another $100.

Xoom wifi drops $10 after one day release?

Best buy now selling Xoom wifi at 589
Yep, WiFi only $589.99
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Motorol...1218305633252&skuId=1946197&st=xoom&cp=1&lp=1
3G version also dropped to $789.99
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Motorol...1218305636450&skuId=1946179&st=xoom&cp=1&lp=2
Let's see the Costco response to $579!!
arika44 said:
Best buy now selling Xoom wifi at 589
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Doesn't surprise me at all. I expect prices to go down much further in the coming months. From my one month experience with the Xoom, most people ask me if I am using an iPad. And when I say it is a Xoom Android tablet, I get a look of confusion. That is the problem coming late to the party. Maybe the iPad 2 shortages will help make people more aware that there are other options like Xoom. I just wish Google would get all of the missing features fixed (microSD card) along with better stability with apps. The frustration with force closures of existing apps on the Xoom will frustrate clueless consumers. The compatibility checks being done on Google Market and Amazon appstore are a joke right now. Getting the market apps to not allow download if it is going to force close is a huge first step to a better user experience.
Who care if it drops $10.00. I've already used it and enjoy it since Friday. Over 3 days of playing with it. Would I return it and buy it for $10.00 lower. Heck no.
Would they ever drop another $50.00? Not any time soon. Keep in mind that the sweet spot price range has already been established by Apple to be the norm. That is $599.99 for 32GB WIFI device. So no matter if it is Motorola, Samsung, or LG. As long as the spec is comparable, if not better and has 32GB. They will try to price it close if not exact.
Everyone want a piece of the pie Apple baked. Late or not, there are plenty of pie for everyone. We live in the world of over 3 billions people. You think there is a PERFECT device for everyone. Nope.
I think what'll happen is that Moto will come out with a different SKU with less "stuff," say 16GB storage and no GPS, and price it at the $499 level. This both justifies the current Xoom pricing, at the same time allow the Xoom to be price-competitive.
I think the price drop has more to do with trying to compete with Costco and Sams clubs competitive pricing from the beginning, don't think too much should be read into this.
Amazon was also offering the wifi version for $589 during the pre order period long before it was released.
You should be able to just take the receipt in and they adjust the price...I did mine yesterday.
OH NO A PRICE DROP AFTER ONE DAY! THEY MUST BE DISCONTINUING OUR DEVICE! WHAT WILL WE EVER DO! DAMN THAT PRICE COMPETITION AND MULTIPLE VENDORS!!!!
There, am I doing it right?
guess what, costo is now selling it for 589
arika44 said:
guess what, costo is now selling it for 589
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Costco has been selling the wifi xoom for $589 from day 1. It is actually the other retailers like amazon and best buy that are trying to match costco's price point.
ericdabbs said:
Costco has been selling the wifi xoom for $589 from day 1. It is actually the other retailers like amazon and best buy that are trying to match costco's price point.
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Yep. The difference is the required costco membership if u don't already have it. And from my experience buying one yesterday they're getting extremely tight on people buying them with friends and even families member cards.
martonikaj said:
Yep. The difference is the required costco membership if u don't already have it. And from my experience buying one yesterday they're getting extremely tight on people buying them with friends and even families member cards.
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Seems like you could go in there with cash and they wouldn't bat an eye at it
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Seems like you could go in there with cash and they wouldn't bat an eye at it
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It still has to be your membership card matching your ID. They checked when I bought mine.
Went in to Best Buy today to pick up a WiFi XOOM for the $589 price, and was amazed that they had none at all in stock. Very disappointing.
In fact all my local Best Buy stores list the XOOM WiFi as "ship to store" rather than in stock.
In additon, they had a big sign under the XOOM display for the Verizon subsidized pricing: $600 price is only with a 10 GB/month contract for $80/month! That floored me.
To add insult to injury, if you opt for a 5GB/month contract the XOOM is $650!
and that contract is $50 per month. They didn't even mention the $20 1GB contract.
Its almost like the retailers want the XOOM to fail. Of course the salesman had no trouble producing a 64GB wifi version of the iPad2, which he actually had in stock. I ended up walking out.
Guess I'm going to try Staples next.
Digital Man said:
Went in to Best Buy today to pick up a WiFi XOOM for the $589 price, and was amazed that they had none at all in stock. Very disappointing.
In additon, they had a big sign under the XOOM display for the Verizon subsidized pricing: $600 price is only with a 10 GB/month contract for $80/month! That floored me.
To add insult to injury, if you opt for a 5GB/month contract the XOOM is $650!
and that contract is $50 per month. They didn't even mention the $20 1GB contract.
Its almost like the retailers want the XOOM to fail. Of course the salesman had no trouble producing a 64GB wifi version of the iPad2, which he actually had in stock. I ended up walking out.
Guess I'm going to try Staples next.
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This thread is pertaining to the WiFi version, not the 3G version, btw. But either way...
The plan deals for the 3G version are the same from every store, on account that its contracted through Verizon for data. Verizon charges that much for every data device (laptops, USB sticks, and tablets). Costco even rebates back your activation fee after 3 months of service. Be mad at Verizon for their data prices, not Costco for advertising them.
I'm surprised they had iPad 2s available. They're sold out most places.
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This thread is pertaining to the WiFi version, not the 3G version, btw. But either way...
The plan deals for the 3G version are the same from every store, on account that its contracted through Verizon for data. Verizon charges that much for every data device (laptops, USB sticks, and tablets). Costco even rebates back your activation fee after 3 months of service. Be mad at Verizon for their data prices, not Costco for advertising them.
I'm surprised they had iPad 2s available. They're sold out most places.
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I know, not blaming Best Buy for that, just added it as an aside, because I hadn't realized that they try to push you into the $80 plan for the $600 price and then scalp you for an extra $50 when they get you on the $50 plan - Verizon is just unreal with their pricing.
I do blame Best Buy for not having any WiFi XOOMs available though. I mean, come on, Best Buy is a major electronics chain. Even staples lists them in stock by now.
And the "ship to store" on their website isn't very encouraging. Makes me wonder if they will only be ordering them on request.
The iPad 2 thing took me by surprise too. I just asked, expecting them to say no, but the salesman said he had 2, and even went in back and brought out one box to show me.
Have to admint, I was tempted there for a moment. Even if I had decided to go the iPad 2 route, both of them were white, and I never really liked the white one anyway...
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I know, not blaming Best Buy for that, just added it as an aside, because I hadn't realized that they try to push you into the $80 plan for the $600 price and then scalp you for an extra $50 when they get you on the $50 plan - Verizon is just unreal with their pricing.
I do blame Best Buy for not having any WiFi XOOMs available though. I mean, come on, Best Buy is a major electronics chain. Even staples lists them in stock by now.
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Well again that's Verizons plan pricing. Best Buy has to advertise the exact way that Verizon advertises for the 3G version.
Best Buy has been this way forever as far as only having a limited number of units. For many major launches they honestly only have 4-5 units per store. Best Buy has to spread out their stock to all the different stores. Again, blame Motorola for not shipping enough units, not Best Buy for only having a few at launch lol.
Personally my local Costco had a rack full of these things in 2 different displays on the floor. It really depends which store you're in and how many people were interested in the product.
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Costco has been selling the wifi xoom for $589 from day 1. It is actually the other retailers like amazon and best buy that are trying to match costco's price point.
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Yes.
Too bad they can't match a 90 day open box return policy and free extended warranty. Not to mention a free gel case as well.
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Used Phone Prices Make No Sense...to me

With new phone prices without a contract around $500 and upgrade prices for the hot models running $99-250, I was thinking maybe I should shop recent used, i.e. an Incredible 2 or even a Galaxy Nexus or RAZR now that the Maxx is out. So checking eBay and Craigslist, and various forum marketplaces I am seeing that used pricing runs from $100-$300 on the Inc2 to $300-$500 on the Nexus and RAZR.
My son just got an Inc 2 upgrade for free. Why would anyone pay $100-$300 (widely asked) for a free phone? I might pay $50 to play with it. Why would anyone pay $400 for a used Nexus or RAZR when you can upgrade for $199 or $249 (less with a new account). I would pay $100, OK, but why pay more than the upgrade price? I understand the desire to avoid a contract, but seriously you have to get service from somewhere. I can't believe that many of the people selling these things paid full retail, so how can the used prices be more than most people paid in the first place. There can't be that much demand and the supply increases daily.
Please explain.
Some people have just upgraded recently and can't do a new contract before their two years is up without paying a pretty decent fee. It's cheaper to buy the phone from someone else and maybe get rid of their old phone than to pay the price for getting a new contract. Some people here also own multiple devices and switch them out often, so it doesn't really make sense to open a new contract for each phone. Check people's sigs: some members/devs here have four or five devices at a time.
And just in case you don't know why there's a charge for early upgrades, the carriers give you the phones at discount because over a two year contract you will end up paying down the expense they took. If they give you a new phone every six months you have gone through around $2000 worth of devices and they certainly won't make that up just from your monthly bill.
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With new phone prices without a contract around $500 and upgrade prices for the hot models running $99-250, I was thinking maybe I should shop recent used, i.e. an Incredible 2 or even a Galaxy Nexus or RAZR now that the Maxx is out. So checking eBay and Craigslist, and various forum marketplaces I am seeing that used pricing runs from $100-$300 on the Inc2 to $300-$500 on the Nexus and RAZR.
My son just got an Inc 2 upgrade for free. Why would anyone pay $100-$300 (widely asked) for a free phone? I might pay $50 to play with it. Why would anyone pay $400 for a used Nexus or RAZR when you can upgrade for $199 or $249 (less with a new account). I would pay $100, OK, but why pay more than the upgrade price? I understand the desire to avoid a contract, but seriously you have to get service from somewhere. I can't believe that many of the people selling these things paid full retail, so how can the used prices be more than most people paid in the first place. There can't be that much demand and the supply increases daily.
Please explain.
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It is all in being eligible for an upgrade!!! People who break, drop in toilet, or lose their phone are the ones paying. They had a new phone and liked it. But they broke it and aren't eligible for an upgrade price for another two years. They would have to pay full price. A used phone at $250 is better than paying $500 from the provider since you have no upgrade options.
I like it. My last two upgrades I have made money!!!! I had an original droid. I upgraded to my droid X for $299. $100 rebate brings cost down to $200. Sold for $250 on ebay!!! Old droid would have cost someone $400 from verizon if they weren't eligible for an upgrade. They have the phone they want and saved $150 versus buying a new one from verizon.
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I like it. My last two upgrades I have made money!!!! I had an original droid. I upgraded to my droid X for $299. $100 rebate brings cost down to $200. Sold for $250 on ebay!!! Old droid would have cost someone $400 from verizon if they weren't eligible for an upgrade. They have the phone they want and saved $150 versus buying a new one from verizon.
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I understand why it works for the seller . But this sort of presumes that more people are dropping phones in toilets than are buying new phones and retiring old ones, and I am not sure that can be so. Alternatively, it assumes that a real lot of people want to upgrade in less than two years and are willing to pay hundreds for the privilege; and I am not sure that can be so either.
I guess that I am cheap. But if I am entitled to pay, say, $199 in 3-6 months I am not paying more now for used equipment.
Some carriers give a cheaper monthly rate if you own your phone. I always buy phones outright either new or used and save money overall.
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Some carriers give a cheaper monthly rate if you own your phone. I always buy phones outright either new or used and save money overall.
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nothing is free.
My phone cost me £120 new which came with a PAYG sim.
My contract sim only is £13 a month.
I could have got the same phone on contract for £35 a month.
So I would be paying an extra £22 a month on a 18 month contract, after 5-6 months I would have been payiing more for the phone and be out of pocket. The contracts where the phones seem free have you paying for the phone monthly instead.
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I guess that I am cheap. But if I am entitled to pay, say, $199 in 3-6 months I am not paying more now for used equipment.
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What are you going to do? Pay $50 on a throw away so you have a phone for the next 3-6 months or just go without a phone for that time?
Also, a lot of people don't realize that their old cell phones are worth something. They throw them in a drawer or the garbage or they recycle them so they can feel good. I hope they never find out!!
I will be getting a free RAZR in a few months!!! After rebates and ebay of course!!
I was actually digging through some old stuff a few months ago and I ran across an old Moto Z6TV that I forgot to put up on ebay when I retired it years ago. I put it up on ebay and got $40 for it. I think it was3 or 4 phones ago. And I let the prospective buyers know it would be needing a battery soon in the auction listing.
Peeps need them for something. Maybe they know something I don't and are stocking up for the Zombie apocalypse. Who knows. I don't care as long as they are buying!!
Not everybody wants a contract. You can get a contract and pay $1k-$2k over the course of 2 years for a "free" phone or you can get a significantly cheaper pay as you go service and pay $200 for an unlocked phone.
I do business on CL all the time. This time of year is notorious for high-priced phones. If you wait until spring and summer really hits, phones will be available left and right.
Usually CDMA phones are cheaper as well, so if you look around daily, you'll find a good deal.
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Depends on the financial status of the person to go for used phone or a new contract phone
In the past two years I've gone through 5 android phones and saved a ton of money giving the phones down to my wife and mom and never have to sign a new contract. Currently my wife has an Iphone, my mom a nexus s 4g, and I traded my android phone for an Iphone 4s...I'm going to sell that 4s and get a white Epic 4G Touch for 350 tonight, the Iphone should sell for a decent amount, I'm not out to gouge anyone but the Iphone holds value well (I hated the iPhone or I'd keep it but I miss android)
Well let me explain how it makes sense. Here's my actual history:
Buy an HTC Touch Diamond for $125 close to when it came out on some weird contract thing.
Sold Diamond for $200, bought iPhone 3G when moved to tmobile for $250, did a few other deals in between, but ended up trading the iPhone 3G for an HD2 when HD2 came out on tmobile. Sold HD2 for $250 a couple months ago, and moved to ATT and got a Galaxy Note on Contract (thru a friend $10 add a line) for $300 (soon to be $150 back for the promo), for all the deals I did between there I probably netted a few hundred dollar profit, bought and sold tablets as well (used most of them, I'm not trying to be a businessman here). You get to try out a bunch of devices this way.
If you take care of them, the resale is worth the original purchase. If you bought a Galaxy Nexus unlocked for $650 like 6 months ago, you could probably sell it RIGHT NOW for $650 easy if you took damn good care of it.
It's just how it works, you're not really out that much money if you're smart about how you do it, I've dropped $400 on devices and stuff and used/resold etc...
I agree with the general idea of the thread, some used phones are too much IMO.
There is a reason people are paying the used phone prices and I'm willing to bet they checked their options before dishing out a few hundred dollars.
We all get that most providers essentially mortgage you a device through your plan but if you don't fall under their qualifications to upgrade then your about to realize how much these little gadgets actually retail for. If you can upgrade through your provider that's your best bet. If not the used market is probably your go to option.
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eplote was
Taking into account that most phones are essentially a computer in your pocket, the used prices should reflect upon the age of the tech, total use time and who the owner was.
In the IT industry, hardware drops in value quite rapidly due to new gear coming out.
If the handset is a current model of it's class, then expect a premium price.
As for iDrones, they are like the fashion industry, you pay for a label and a social status as an iPhollower.
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If that makes no sense to you go take a look what people are paying for "used" Iphones.
for what its worth, used galaxy ace's were been sold for more then I paid for mine brand new.
from what I can see on ebay people usually only take 10-20% of the price of a new phone unless there is obvious damage. if you find a retail phone with a discount it will be less than used on ebay.
Most people charge too much for their used phones yet people due to contract issues buy them^^
My personal experience is that if you try to find a used phone on the E bay the price has no sense, but if you look in a local site of vacancies you can find good occasions, expecially if you make an offer that is lower of the asked price.
heres how i got my amaze, i bought it broken. honestly, as long as it turns on, im happy, i do customer service for t-mobile but i have at&t only because i have been with them since they were cingular. anyways, dont want to get off topic at hand, i can repair anything. my amaze had went through a joy ride through a dryer. and i still payed 250.00, then i had to get a digitizer/LCD, then a back, then a battery, but i still came out cheaper then retail price. i get laughed at on the smoke deck at work because of my phone but as the month went on it got nicer and nicer then a new trainee said when did you get your new phone? lol i build it...really. i got my inspire with a cracked screen the only phone i have that NOT damaged is my infuse lol

Yes. Moto Says screw the carriers with its latest.

Moto G, Verizon Droids Coming to Carriers, But Not Moto X
"If you want the new Moto X Style when it comes to market in September, you're going to have to buy it unlocked. Otherwise, you might want to wait a month or two for some Verizon Droid announcements.
The $399 Moto X Style is one of very few phones that can be used on all four major U.S. carriers. So far in the U.S., only the Google Nexus 6 and the Apple iPhone 6 and 6 Plus have that ability. It'll work just fine with AT&T, Sprint, T-Mobile, or Verizon SIM cards, said Motorola senior vice president of software engineering Seang Chau.
"You buy it once, and you can switch carriers all you want," he said.
But the Moto X Style won't be sold in carrier stores..."
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Looking forward to this release. If that camera has really improved, bye bye Samsung S5!
I'm looking at the X Style for a couple reasons. UNLOCKED from a carrier, means I don't have to jump through hoops.
Rooting isn't an issue for me. My current 1 year old Huawei Mate2 isn't unlocked either. For work purposes, the camera
has to be a good one, the mate2 13mp is fantastic, coupled with the Camera FV-5 app. More megapixels does not always
equate with a better photograph, but, if DONE RIGHT it will, so, once it gets in the wild and feedback starts coming in,
I'll know. It's a bit smaller than my current device, which comes in with a 6.1" screen. It has a 4,100mAH battery, which
can easily last 2 days. As long as the Moto, can get me 10 hours of usage, it wouldn't matter to me to lose just a bit
of screen size or battery life.
They also say "Screw Canada".
They also say screw anyone who would prefer to pay less than $400 for a phone and are willing to take a contract to do so.
sternum_boy said:
They also say screw anyone who would prefer to pay less than $400 for a phone and are willing to take a contract to do so.
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You still end up paying the $400. However best buy and Motorola have very decent finance options. I would rather do that than end up in a contract.
The route I take is I always sell my old phone on swappa before its price drops too low so I'm never paying more and $200 for a new phone. Most of the time it's an even trade.
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You still end up paying the $400. However best buy and Motorola have very decent finance options. I would rather do that than end up in a contract.
The route I take is I always sell my old phone on swappa before its price drops too low so I'm never paying more and $200 for a new phone. Most of the time it's an even trade.
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No, you don't end up paying the $400. I am with Sprint and they still offer subsidized upgrades with a 2 year contract. The contract free plans are not at a cheaper monthly rate than my legacy plan (my plan works out to about $60 per line with unlimited data). I typically pay between $0 and $150 for a phone at retail, get a 2 year contract, and then sell my old phone for $50-$100.
orcsbane13 said:
You still end up paying the $400. However best buy and Motorola have very decent finance options. I would rather do that than end up in a contract.
The route I take is I always sell my old phone on swappa before its price drops too low so I'm never paying more and $200 for a new phone. Most of the time it's an even trade.
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How? My bill doesn't go up or down when I subsidies a phone. If I pay 200, I pay 200..
They offered unlocked and carrier versions before. They will probably have carrier versions in time.
But with unlocked, you have the freedom to play carriers for the lowest rate and MVNOs too.
Ultimately unlocked is cheaper over time. If you are in an area where you can play the field. I hope more carriers go unlocked.
I just need T-Moble to open up their WiFi calling app to devices like this. But the savings and features outweigh getting a T-Mobile Nexus with WiFi calling IMHO.
Biz!
I hope it's worth it.
They scream screw 1+ lol
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If all the manufactures would do this, you would see the iphone have trouble selling their icrap for $700-800. Of course, the isheep would pay any price for their two year technology. I think it is a simple phone for simple people.
Verizon just announced "no more contracts". AT&T has been offering it for a while. To get those "low" device prices with a contract, you're buying the subsidy. On AT&T you spend $600 over 2 years for the subsidy. Then if you buy the phone for $200 on contract, you've really spent $800 dollars for it. This is the AT&T example, but others are similar. Contacts are not a good deal.
I've been off contract for more than a year now. Bought all my phones outright. The majority of the 9 are MotoG, an original MotoX, and a couple old Galaxy S3. We all share 15GB of data and have unlimited talk and text for about $27 / month / line. But we do buy our phones.
As contracts and subsidies become a thing of the past, and people realize the "true" cost of their phones, the days of $700 - $1000 phones are numbers. I applaud Moto for their pricing and for freeing us from the carrier imposed constraints and bloatware. It all started with the original MotoG and MotoX under Google ownership, and I'm glad to see they continue with this approach under the current ownership.
jswclw said:
Verizon just announced "no more contracts". AT&T has been offering it for a while. To get those "low" device prices with a contract, you're buying the subsidy. On AT&T you spend $600 over 2 years for the subsidy. Then if you buy the phone for $200 on contract, you've really spent $800 dollars for it. This is the AT&T example, but others are similar. Contacts are not a good deal.
I've been off contract for more than a year now. Bought all my phones outright. The majority of the 9 are MotoG, an original MotoX, and a couple old Galaxy S3. We all share 15GB of data and have unlimited talk and text for about $27 / month / line. But we do buy our phones.
As contracts and subsidies become a thing of the past, and people realize the "true" cost of their phones, the days of $700 - $1000 phones are numbers. I applaud Moto for their pricing and for freeing us from the carrier imposed constraints and bloatware. It all started with the original MotoG and MotoX under Google ownership, and I'm glad to see they continue with this approach under the current ownership.
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It's funny that Moto decided to do this right before Verizon drops subsidized phones. I have to say this phone is way more attractive looking to me. I was thinking of waiting to see what the new droid line had. However the cost will be 200-300 more than this phone. I think this will be a game changer in the way OEMs build and price their phones.
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I'm glad to see moto going this route with these phones. Hopefully it starts dropping the prices of other phones.
I am curious to see how Iphone sales go with no contracts. How many people are willing to spend the big bucks for 64gb and higher iphones. I am ditching my S5 once I can get my hands on these newer moto phones and see if the Moto Pure is too big for my hands or not
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I'm glad to see moto going this route with these phones. Hopefully it starts dropping the prices of other phones.
I am curious to see how Iphone sales go with no contracts. How many people are willing to spend the big bucks for 64gb and higher iphones. I am ditching my S5 once I can get my hands on these newer moto phones and see if the Moto Pure is too big for my hands or not
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Apparently Verizon is keeping subsidized phones for current customers if I read the articles right.
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DaleGriggs said:
If all the manufactures would do this, you would see the iphone have trouble selling their icrap for $700-800. Of course, the isheep would pay any price for their two year technology. I think it is a simple phone for simple people.
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I really hope Apple starts to lower their prices. With more and more carriers no longer doing 2 year contracts, many customers now have to see the full price of the phone, and either pay for it up front or know they are spending $800 over the course of a 2 year phone loan.
The phones are worth whatever customers will pay for them. I could see iPhone prices declining some, but probably not that much.
Macs still sell pretty well, even though there are better, cheaper alternatives...
I'm really looking forward to this phone. I just hope it gets a lot of developer love.
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geoff5093 said:
I really hope Apple starts to lower their prices. With more and more carriers no longer doing 2 year contracts, many customers now have to see the full price of the phone, and either pay for it up front or know they are spending $800 over the course of a 2 year phone loan.
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While there may be some correction to improved yields and manufacturing improvements don't count on any substantial price drops (unless they come out with a lower end phone but that will still be pricey). People who like iPhones will have no issues paying for them. I went from a subsidized phones (4 on our account) to non-subsidized (payments over 24 mo.) and my overall phone bill went down. Particularly for iPhones you used to be limited to higher cost plans with subsidized phones. BUT once you had "paid" off your phone at two years you were still stuck with a higher cost plan. I haven't been under contract for many years and never again will be.
I'm waiting to see if the Moto's will bootloader unlockable and see what the new Nexus phones bring to the table then I'll make up my mind, but the Moto X is high on my list.

Insurance of choice?

Looking at the insurance options it seems to be between ATT, Samsung, and SquareTrade. For those who have insurace what did you pick and why?
from what I can see:
ATT:
Pros: Low Monthly ($8.99), Covers loss and theft, I believe you, I believe you are certain to get your original color?
Cons: Initial high deductible until it slides, not covered under the $89 screen repair
For ATT is it as simple as walking into a store, filing a claim, and walking out with a new one?
Samsung:
Pros: $99 deductible always, Someone comes to your house either same or next day I believe
Cons: High monthly payments ($11.99), Does not cover loss and theft, No guarantee of phone color
SquareTrade:
Pros: Low Monthly payments (I read someone said it was $7), Also read it was a low deductible like $70
Cons: Does not cover loss and theft. Too good to be true? Slow claims? I really dont know anything about this company so if someone has had experience with them it'd be helpful to know!
Guitarboarder28 said:
Looking at the insurance options it seems to be between ATT, Samsung, and SquareTrade. For those who have insurace what did you pick and why?
from what I can see:
ATT:
Pros: Low Monthly ($8.99), Covers loss and theft, I believe you, I believe you are certain to get your original color?
Cons: Initial high deductible until it slides, not covered under the $89 screen repair
For ATT is it as simple as walking into a store, filing a claim, and walking out with a new one?
Samsung:
Pros: $99 deductible always, Someone comes to your house either same or next day I believe
Cons: High monthly payments ($11.99), Does not cover loss and theft, No guarantee of phone color
SquareTrade:
Pros: Low Monthly payments (I read someone said it was $7), Also read it was a low deductible like $70
Cons: Does not cover loss and theft. Too good to be true? Slow claims? I really dont know anything about this company so if someone has had experience with them it'd be helpful to know!
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Just my two cents and I never used the protection plan before, just had a few phones break during the warranty period. Looks like at&t closed their device service centers, so everything is done by phone and shipped to you. I've had appointments on evenings and sundays to replace dead phones that was nice. Here's a something I put together if I decide to. at&t has extended their enrollment for the protection plans until the end of June if you missed out.
I need to update my signature too, M9 was about die....
Silverexp said:
Just my two cents and I never used the protection plan before, just had a few phones break during the warranty period. Looks like at&t closed their device service centers, so everything is done by phone and shipped to you. I've had appointments on evenings and sundays to replace dead phones that was nice. Here's a something I put together if I decide to. at&t has extended their enrollment for the protection plans until the end of June if you missed out.
I need to update my signature too, M9 was about die....
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yea I ended up going with att. thats a good speadsheet though. thanks for the share!
I have used Square Trade for many years for all my family phones, laptops/PC's, even a Keurig machine. Have had to claim a couple of times and they are very reasonable & super fast. One family member's iPhone screen cracked, initiated a claim, took it to local Genius Bar (isn't that name just a hoot), and uploaded PDF copy of the receipt, had full reimbursement from Square Trade into my PayPal account in less than 24 hours. No problems using this service at all. If device can't be fixed, or if repair facility wants to replace rather than repair, Square Trade reimburses the full cost. Just have to look at which service level and desired deductible you want.
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Subscribed. I'd love to hear more on this.
I have always purchased AppleCare+, Samsung Protection Plus or On-Guard by Assurant ect for my devices. I have enjoyed paying a one time fee and having coverage for 2 years and not being gouged with a reoccurring monthly fee. I've never had to make a claim but I feel great comfort in knowing I am covered.
I've never had carrier insurance such as AT&T's, mostly because I usually have several devices at any given time and swap my SIM often, and was told once ( most likely erroneously ) that once I swap my SIM into another phone the insurance is no longer valid for the original device.
Looking at what AT&T's insurance offers it seems outrageously expensive. I can't imagine anybody is actually paying for that. $229 deductible?!? Thats batshlt crazy!
I paid $129 for AppleCare+ for my iPhone 7 Plus. Deductible is only $29 for screen replacement and $99 for the entire device. Those are incredibly reasonable prices. My Note 5 was $129 with a $99 deductible.
When I purchased my Galaxy s8+ in store the AT&T sales associate was pushing the insurance really hard. I declined several times always planning on buying Samsung Protection Plus. I was pretty upset when I got home and saw that Samsung Protection Plus is not offered for the s8 and s8+. Instead we get Samsung Premium Care for $11.99 a month with no option to pay for the full 2 years. That means you are paying $306.03 I'm really not too happy about that.
I have several SuareTrade warranties. Have only had to make a claim once, on a 60" Plasma TV. They were super fast about accessing the situation remotely and ended up replacing it with a brand new, much nicer full array LED. I have to say I was pretty happy with how SquareTrade handled it. Maybe I'll give then a shot at my s8+. I'd rather do that than pay $306.03 to Samsung or a ridiculous $229 deductible with AT&T

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