Hi. Sorry if this is in the wrong section. Please delete if so. I was just curious about the possibility of porting Meego to the Droid Charge. I found this list of Meego porting projects (http://forum.meego.com/showthread.php?t=2414), and apparently there's even one for Hummingbird SoC-using phones (http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/Hummingbird).
I don't mean to start a flame war or annoy anyone or anything. I'm just interested in the possibility of a dual-boot setup. Does anyone with experience know if such a port would be possible? And if so, whether there's any coders who are interested?
We don't even have vanilla android available, and you'd rather have people work on a completely different OS? Not saying it's wrong, but wouldn't you rather have vanilla android before someone goes off and ports a completely different OS that is even more likely to never work?
imnuts said:
We don't even have vanilla android available, and you'd rather have people work on a completely different OS? Not saying it's wrong, but wouldn't you rather have vanilla android before someone goes off and ports a completely different OS that is even more likely to never work?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Lol I should have clarified that I meant after ICS is done. I wanted to keep the post short. Sorry about that.
My feeling is that Google is intent on standardizing all their devices on ICS, so it will be a very long while before anyone has to worry about Jelly Bean coming out. In fact I suspect it will be a full year. So in the lull instead of developers getting bored and moving on to other devices I was hoping someone would be up to the challenge of porting MeeGo.
Just wanted to plan the seed of idea, and let it sprout or wither on its own.
Related
Hey i would like to try and port the apple os on to my mt3g can anyone point me in the right direction... please no flaming its all in good fun and challenges
No pointing because there is nothing to point out to.....
The best thing you could do is ask the guy that did the android port to iphone. he would proabably be able to tell you what would have to be done to get a iphone to android port working. every driver would have to be made along with custom kernels. after that alot of software tweaks would be needed to make the iphone os show the battery meter right and correctly use the GPU and memory would have to be sent to the sdcard because the actual os would probably use up all of the memory.
LOL, very nice challenge.
There are no Apple OS's ported for the MyTouch and there never will be. Mostly because Apple is not open source. Even if someone did succeed in doing so they will get a C&D quicker then you can even try it.
I don't want the flaming to start so I'm closing this thread.
Why are we not getting honeycomb to play with?
You really need to read some threads before posting a question that has already been answered many times.
Sent from my Viewsonic G Tablet running TnT Lite 4.2.2 w/ Pershoot's Kernel using Tapatalk Pro
And the honeycomb you are referencing has no practical use in the real world. Its a hacked together UI that does nothing but run the preview sdk
if it was worth it we would have it. our devs kick ass
Moved to general
I hate to sound like a jerk but what is it with all the people whining about honeycomb. The only version out so far is a hacked version built off the prelim sdk and in no way will work for the g tablet. Anyone who has been Modding for anytime knows the cardinal rule for android...
DON'T ASK FOR ETA'S.
When honeycomb is officially released by Google I'm sure it'll be like every other release and in a short time we'll have our own version. Until then have some patience please and do some research.
or if you want honeycomb straight away then get a xoom and pay the big bucks
What i dont get is why do people ask and ask...........
Doesnt your gtab do everything you need It to?
honeycomb... Hero cookie....danish....pop tart...soda cracker........flap jack or royal with cheese
Just names I dont see anything i cant wait for.
Now when they say the next android version will give my gtab the ability for it to make me samwiches and give me oral pleasure on demand that is when i will be all over the devs to build that $hit....
Instead of anwers that are coherent and useful we get alot of mouthy folks that serve no purpose. What a bunch of AH's!
Really?
BilliamB said:
Instead of anwers that are coherent and useful we get alot of mouthy folks that serve no purpose. What a bunch of AH's!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Let me get this straight. You post in the wrong section, you ask for an ETA, and you obviously did not search, which also means you did not read any of the forum rules or stickies. Yet, somehow we are all assholes. You know if you just follow a few simple rules your experience with XDA will be much better. The rules here are no different than any other forum. I am going to assume you are new to this, so I will help you a bit. Search for what an SDK port is and you will quickly realize why you do not want this.
BilliamB said:
Instead of anwers that are coherent and useful we get alot of mouthy folks that serve no purpose. What a bunch of AH's!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I think you should flash the Nook Color ROM BilliamB, you obviously know what you're doing, I'm sure you can get it to work. I mean come on, the G Tablet has a Tegra 2 processor, it should totally work right? Although you may want to read a few threads.... oh wait, you obviously don't do that. Come on dude, the only one here being an AH (as you put it) is you.
Sent from my Viewsonic G Tablet running TnT Lite 4.2.2 w/ Pershoot's Kernel using Tapatalk Pro
Seriously.... You will not see Honeycomb on the G Tablet until another unit is released with Honeycomb and has the Tegra 2 chip. The issue is the instruction sets are different enough that its not a one for one port. The Nook, Dell Streak 5, Tegra 2, etc. are all based on the ARMv7 instruction set but there are difference in their implementation enough that make them incompatible. In addition the biggest differences lay in the I/O subsystem which makes these platforms completely different. With these major differences it makes porting from the emulator (which is how they are getting Honeycomb to work) a daunting tasking and nearly impossible on a Tegra 2 based device.
I am very confident after the first Honeycomb system image is posted it will be running on our tablets... It will be a race as to who gets props on Engadget for being the first to port to the G Tablet..
You would get less hostility if you read, learned and asked accordingly. Its a give and take community. Unfortunately the way you asked makes it seem your less inclined to contribute and just take...
BilliamB said:
Instead of anwers that are coherent and useful we get alot of mouthy folks that serve no purpose. What a bunch of AH's!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Honeycomb is coming to the g-tablet in March, till then.
RERRRAAXXXX
BilliamB said:
Instead of anwers that are coherent and useful we get alot of mouthy folks that serve no purpose. What a bunch of AH's!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Seriously dude....This is about the 10th thread with this same topic started since the nook got the honeycomb sdk running. You ask questions without searching and then cause you dont get the answer you want you call us names. Don't worry, most of us won't answer your questions anymore.....ever.
BilliamB said:
Instead of anwers that are coherent and useful we get alot of mouthy folks that serve no purpose. What a bunch of AH's!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Whoa!!! Bad move man, bad move. You need realize that you can't call people who are willing to spend rediculous amounts of thier personal time to provide the community with amazing firmware AH's! Quite the contrary - They are saints (and, actually, you serve no purpose).
Swyped from my VEGAn-TAB-v1.0.0B5.1
deep_powder2012 said:
Whoa!!! Bad move man, bad move. You need realize that you can't call people who are willing to spend rediculous amounts of thier personal time to provide the community with amazing firmware AH's! Quite the contrary - They are saints (and, actually, you serve no purpose).
Swyped from my VEGAn-TAB-v1.0.0B5.1
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Totally agreed. XD.
Hey Alpha06...
I'm just curious if that is a confirmed news or word of mouth that the G-tablet would have Honeycomb around the March?
I wouldn't guarantee that Honeycomb for the G-tab would be available for sure in March, however I wouldn't be surprised to see Alpha-versions of Honeycomb ROMs shortly after the first Tegra2 devices are released and rooted. Like everyone has been saying around here, don't ask for an ETA, because the people around here that do develop do it on their personal time. They have lives, work, and possibly kids, wives, or whatever that also wants their time as well.
Remember, porting a ROM is a lot easier if there is solid reference material to build from. As you may notice, TNT-Lite comes from his building on and improving the existing TNT version of Android that came with the G-Tablet. Vegan is a modification and improvement of the Vega OS. I don't believe that the developers of either package (and correct me if I am wrong) went to Google's GIT repository for Android and compiled their own versions of the OS specifically for the device - along with writing their own custom device drivers for all of the internal hardware. They built off of, and improved what was available.
IIRC, the Nook port of Honeycomb is only partially functional. The just released port for the Dell Streak (http://www.mytabletlife.com/2011/02/08/dell-streak-honeycomb-port/) is as well. Why, because they are essentially starting from scratch.
Which brings everything back to my original point. As soon as reference devices are out in the wild, I'm sure that will be the point where we will see Honeycomb ports start to pop up here as well.
BigJohn
march can not get here soon enough... heh.
Ok guys, it's been brought to my attention that my post was
1. Cantankerous.
2. Seemingly disrespectful of devs great work on here.
3. Taken too seriously for being an internet forum.
I would like to say sorry, and explain what I mean I tihnk it would be awesome to pull together the necessary funding for our very talented developers to create an XDA exclusive, completely original ROM. I'm not sure if it is possible, but something that is just for the Thunderbolt alone and isn't sense, isn't AOSP, isn't MIUI, and DEFINITELY not like Motorboat... I mean Motorblur. I think we really are on to something with the work that the Dev's are doing with taking different roms and porting them/using other roms as bases and then building from them; lets see what we can do to completely change the way that this stuff is done(if possible) by polling ideas(not unreasonable wishlists) and putting it all together. Possibly coordinating between Team BAMF, Chingy, and some other the other recognized DEV's.
What does everyone else think?
htcdesirezgeorge said:
I'm not sure if it is possible, but something that is just for the Thunderbolt alone and isn't sense, isn't AOSP, isn't MIUI, and DEFINITELY not like Motorboat...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If it isn't sense/blur/touchwiz, it is AOSP. Miui is just modified AOSP (with no sources given back), just like all the other roms not sense/blur/touchwiz are also based on AOSP. You do know what AOSP means right? Android Open Source Project as in the android operation system that is the basis to all android phones just modded by the OEMs. What you're asking is similar to saying:
"Hey, I'm bored with linux, unix, osx and windows, can we make a new operating system totally not based on any of those for our computers?"
Perhaps rephrase your question one more time in a way that makes more sense? Third time is a winner
yareally said:
If it isn't sense/blur/touchwiz, it is AOSP. Miui is just modified AOSP (with no sources given back), just like all the other roms not sense/blur/touchwiz are also based on AOSP. You do know what AOSP means right? Android Open Source Project as in the android operation system that is the basis to all android phones just modded by the OEMs. What you're asking is similar to saying:
"Hey, I'm bored with linux, unix, osx and windows, can we make a new operating system totally not based on any of those for our computers?"
Perhaps rephrase your question one more time in a way that makes more sense? Third time is a winner
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Ya got a point, I actually didn't know that! BUT, regardless of how its phrased, what do ya think it would require to do somethig like I mentioned? I, personally would love to see something excitingly new put out here. Like with the miui project, any chance of people putting their heads together to figure it out?
You've got OS's and you have UI's. Obviously it is entirely possible to custom build a UI, but its FAR more difficult than porting one over or mixing and mashing parts of Sense together. UberBAMF is definitely something new and out of the box. That's more radical than anything I ever expected... Or have ever seen elsewhere. UIs do a lot to sell a device, so its worth it for HTC or Samsung to invest in building one. Not so much for a team of volunteer devs.
htcdesirezgeorge said:
Ya got a point, I actually didn't know that! BUT, regardless of how its phrased, what do ya think it would require to do somethig like I mentioned? I, personally would love to see something excitingly new put out here. Like with the miui project, any chance of people putting their heads together to figure it out?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Chances are unlikely to get a new user interface geared to only one phone built from the ground up from the android source by a team for a few reasons:
1) Lack of like-minded (knowledgeable) developers for one device that are currently free. Developers are very opinionated (just from my own experience even if they don't want to admit it). What should/shouldn't go into it would be a mess to deal with and debate alone, especially since the opinions of developers are generally not the same as those that don't develop. The ones already developing most likely don't want to give up their current projects as well. Basically, the developers that want to develop already have their projects and most treat them like it's their "baby" and most likely not willing to give them up or put them on hold. That moves into issue #2
2) Time. It would take considerable amount of time and organization to do that. Probably to get something stable that's original would take longer than most people would keep their Thunderbolt. Guys that work on their phones do this part time for fun as well and that combined with other side projects would press for time.
3) True developers & designers. There's a big difference between hacking some already made stuff to work with things and actually writing object oriented software from scratch. Obviously some guys putting stuff out for the thunderbolt are true developers that code professionally and others are just hacking around making things work done by others. Both have their uses, but you need real development for something like this and I don't think there's enough of those willing.
Forgot to add that the only way change happens is to build interest, so don't let my pessimistic observations detour anyone from posting their thoughts and ideas in this thread
I'll be straight with you guys. I don't know SQUAT about Android's innards, but I don't want to let the SK die. I heard its source was released, making AOSP compiling a possibility, albeit a farfetched one. I could kang and tweak and maybe even make the next Glorious Overdose, if I wanted to, but I'd rather push the envelope. Can somebody point me in the right direction? And does anybody want to jump on board? I figured I'd start where it all began; the ADP1. If I can get a good look at that, maybe I can get a rudimentary grasp of AOSP compiling with the phone's source code and start toying with the SK4G and eventually shoehorn AOSP froyo onto it and build from there, maybe eventually get us some Jelly Bean lovin'. I don't know about anybody else, but until a quad-core exynos with a sidekick qwerty is released, I'm not letting this little gem go and let's face it, manufacturers don't give a sloppy **** about our kind, forgive my French. That said, I do have a life, so this won't be an overnight thing. However, I'm going to take the fate of this dying phone into my own hands if I can. So... I'm gonna call out some people who I think could do us some good, as long as there's no bickering. PM me if anybody, especially the following, are interested. And of course, I'll be willing to flash test builds.
Reactivedisorder
Sduvick
Trunks
Reviewers
Ayoteddy
Jin1337... I know you all hate him, but he genuinely cares about this device and knows a little. Believe it or not, my phone is running IcyBlaze 4.6 and it's stable and screamin'.
Like I said, NO BICKERING. I'll back down and do this alone if people start fighting like grade school kids. 90 percent of the people on this board are adults and if we put our heads together and act our age, we can bring this phone back to life and maybe even surpass the HD2.
Sent from Dexter, the Amazing Sidekick 4G! He's diggin' IcyBlaze 4.6 right now.
Get a reasonable goal that makes sense for this device. Newer versions of the OS are resource hungry and won't offer much that is new or useful.
I suggest trying to simply port stock Froyo.
Anyhow, good luck. Start by setting up a 64 bit Linux machine. If you want to look at the AOSP and CM7 trainwrecks, they are on github.
Pardon me for doubting you, but all the information to get started is on xda already. Hit the search.
I was just wondering if there were any good books about developing the Android OS. I am talking about taking source Android and developing it into something phone specific. Like HTC sense or Samsung TouchWiz. (I know they are both completely different processes). So if anyone could point me in the direction of a book specifically about developing android from the ground up, that would be great. Thanks
Developing Android or developing apps for Android? Can't do the first as it's done by Google..
For apps, read some reviews on Deitel's Android for programmers or Busycoder's guide to Android development... The latter will teach you via examples.
Developing.
Ehtishams said:
Developing Android or developing apps for Android? Can't do the first as it's done by Google..
For apps, read some reviews on Deitel's Android for programmers or Busycoder's guide to Android development... The latter will teach you via examples.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I am talking about developing android ROMs and possibly something like Sense or TouchWiz from scratch. Not a port of either, but something like that. I have just realized that all either of them do is more or less a system of APKs strung together to form a sort of OS within an OS. So I guess I will take a look at app development. Anything along the lines of launcher development and replacement system apps would be great.
TekGadgt said:
I am talking about developing android ROMs and possibly something like Sense or TouchWiz from scratch. Not a port of either, but something like that. I have just realized that all either of them do is more or less a system of APKs strung together to form a sort of OS within an OS. So I guess I will take a look at app development. Anything along the lines of launcher development and replacement system apps would be great.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks for starting this thread TekGadgt
I also wanted to learn how to develop ROMs (something like Cyanogenmod). Anyone please guide me how to proceed.
No luck
bharathexe said:
Thanks for starting this thread TekGadgt
I also wanted to learn how to develop ROMs (something like Cyanogenmod). Anyone please guide me how to proceed.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I know right? Some people like reading physical books, rather than a tutorial thread, to learn development. I still have no hits for a book on developing (or cooking) ROMs. I will keep a look out. Rather than wait, I have simply purchased a book on app development and am working on a launcher app. We will see how it goes.