I am about to upgrade mine and my wifes phone and I need some guidance on what phone I should get. I will prob get my wife an iphone or windows7 phone, just because I want something easy and painless for her.
I am looking to go to either ATT or Verizon. I have a Samsung Captivate. My biggest problem with this phone is the lag. I can't seem to get rid of it no matter what I do. So the biggest thing that I am looking for in a phone is no lag. I don't really care about custom roms so much because if it runs my apps correctly then there is no need to run a custom rom, so locked boot loader is ok for me.
I have been looking at the new Droid X2 or maybe Droid Charge. LTE is not in my area but will be by the years end, so is getting an LTE phone now what I should do? Do you think it will be better to get a phone off ebay/craigslist and just wait for a newer phone?
I have been a faithful ATT subscriber for years, but they have been pissing me off lately so thinking about switching to Verizon, but if I can get the phone I am looking for on ATT, I will stay.
I am in need of some guidance.
Thanks,
Keith
Buy it on ebay and wait for a phone with ice cream dual core speeds
If you make the switch to Verizon. I would say the HTC Thunderbolt. It almost made me change from T-Mobile using HTC G2. I just like the G2's keyboard. The Thunderbolt is a powerful device that will do anything you want it to. I used a friends Thunderbolt for a few weeks. I never had a problem with lag. It really is a nice phone. That is just my opinion though.
@Mods, this is a thread about the Nexus line in general, even if I am referencing the Galaxy Nexus. Please don't move.
Not sure if anyone else is following the official unveiling of the Verizon Galaxy Nexus, but it is a Verizon-branded, Verizon-bloatware phone (2 Verizon apps. Whether it's "bloatware" or not, that's semantics; they shouldn't be there).
The question at hand is whether updates are still pushed from Google, and not through Verizon. The fact that it's a carrier subsidized and carrier-branded phone with two carrier-related apps makes it possible that it updates may have to go through Verizon first. This would defeat the purpose of what the Nexus line is supposed to be, if true.
Yet the bigger question is: What does a Nexus phone represent now? Many are up in arms about it, and it's a question for all Nexus fans/users.
My understanding is that the Sprint Nexus S 4G also includes Sprint apps. What is happening with the Nexus line? Is Google changing what it represents and means?
I can't speak for all and I have the nexus s 4g SPRINT and well I was only stock for like 15 mins but we don't have ANY sprint bloat
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@Mods, this is a thread about the Nexus line in general, even if I am referencing the Galaxy Nexus. Please don't move.
Not sure if anyone else is following the official unveiling of the Verizon Galaxy Nexus, but it is a Verizon-branded, Verizon-bloatware phone (2 Verizon apps. Whether it's "bloatware" or not, that's semantics; they shouldn't be there).
The question at hand is whether updates are still pushed from Google, and not through Verizon. The fact that it's a carrier subsidized and carrier-branded phone with two carrier-related apps makes it possible that it updates may have to go through Verizon first. This would defeat the purpose of what the Nexus line is supposed to be, if true.
Yet the bigger question is: What does a Nexus phone represent now? Many are up in arms about it, and it's a question for all Nexus fans/users.
My understanding is that the Sprint Nexus S 4G also includes Sprint apps. What is happening with the Nexus line? Is Google changing what it represents and means?
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castro08 said:
I can't speak for all and I have the nexus s 4g SPRINT and well I was only stock for like 15 mins but we don't have ANY sprint bloat
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I could be mistaken. Thanks for clarifying. That's good.
The NS4G includes some special sprint apks with functionality to allow flashing the PRL and profile. I don't see why it's out of the question to have the Verizon Galaxy Nexus support similar stuff.
ICS has functionality to disable built-in applications on /system if you don't want them anyway.
The Nexus line receives it's updates from google servers, but they still have to go through all the regular carrier testing that phones receive. That's how it's always been. Do you think the carriers would really want an update to a phone to wreck havok on their network? It's not like these updates are trivial.
fastboot oem unlock
REALLY?
ICS has a new feature to disable apps.
That said if you buy a dev phone you will format and flash anyway so who cares? Not me anyway.
I'm unprepared to speak on the state of the Nexus before I even hold the new one in my hand. As a T-Mobile customer, the launch has been disappointing, but only as much so as it was for customers of every other carrier when the Nexus S launched.
I wouldn't say the nexus line is dead more than its not in the spot light
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We have never had a Nexus phone launch with a carrier partner before, so we have nothing to compare it to.
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The Nexus line receives it's updates from google servers, but they still have to go through all the regular carrier testing that phones receive. That's how it's always been. Do you think the carriers would really want an update to a phone to wreck havok on their network? It's not like these updates are trivial.
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That's NOT how it works. Maybe for certain carriers. I know for a fact that T-Mobile does not recognize the Nexus S as a phone they support/sell. When i was grabbing one back last December, they made it clear to me over the phone that they offer ZERO support for the phone or any of its problems (reboot 5 times a day, anyone?) All "support" comes from the phone's radios ability to communicate on T-Mo towers, and Google's OTA updates, which I think we can agree were shoddy at best. T-Mo doesn't want to have anything to do with the NS updates.
Sprint, on the other hand, has some updates they perform on their end. It's all carrier-dependent. The idea of the perfect Nexus line staying completely pure went to hell when the NS4G was released, and when Google decided to screw over GSM Nexus S users with the Google Wallet thing. Don't think for a second that there wasn't money changing hands over that 4g exlusive release.
I think, in this case, Verizon's just being dicks as usual and strong-arming everyone. Google could have told them to stick it where the sun dont shine, but would have missed out on the biggest portion of the market in the US.
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Also, as far as people on T-Mo being disappointed or not -- I'd be wary of purchasing ANY new phone based off T-Mo compatibility with the pending takeover by AT&T. Yet another reason I WONT be getting this phone.
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Also, as far as people on T-Mo being disappointed or not -- I'd be wary of purchasing ANY new phone based off T-Mo compatibility with the pending takeover by AT&T. Yet another reason I WONT be getting this phone.
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The Galaxy nexus is launching in Canada on Bell. So there will be a Galaxy nexus with AT&T compatible frequencies.
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Also, as far as people on T-Mo being disappointed or not -- I'd be wary of purchasing ANY new phone based off T-Mo compatibility with the pending takeover by AT&T. Yet another reason I WONT be getting this phone
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So far I have no reason to be concerned about it. First of all, the merger may well not go through. Second, if it does go through, there's no way it will before the middle of next year. Third, even if there are no further technical, business, or legal issues from that point on it's highly unlikely they'll start disassembling the T-Mobile network for at least a few months after the deal closes. Fourth, it's part of the merger terms that T-Mobile customers will get new phones when the switch happens. Fifth, since the GSM Galaxy Nexus works on AT&T and T-Mobile bands, there's a good chance it will work on a combined network anyway.
So I wouldn't go so far as to mute your cautionary note- even with those caveats there are still important concerns- but I would perhaps turn it down a notch or two.
Isn't the GSM version quad band anyway?
Yeah it probably will work on both carriers. Good point there. So that part of my argument I guess is moot.
I still stand by my opinion on the TRUE Nexus experience having disappeared when the NS4G came out.
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Isn't the GSM version quad band anyway?
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The Galaxy Nexus is the first pentaband phone running Android. It will run on any GSM 3G network in the world.
Wait a sec though.....thats 3g. NOT 4g. What's the deal with HSPA+ compatibility bands? I guess I'm not QUITE ready to ditch the ATT/T-Mo issue yet.
It's pentaband hspa+ which by default means it will also be pentaband 3g
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there are also confirming some GN are coming SIM LOCKED! by the carriers
bloatware + SIM locking is everything against the basic ideal behind Nexus
so, in a way, seems like Nexus is slowly fading away... it just seems to stand for new AOSP now, no more of its original self
even the hardware has been sucking since Nexus S
it's sinking into a mere reference phone for development
In the US, the average consumer prefers the carrier-subsidized model, they have shown this with their wallets.
Nexus One tried selling from just a website.
Nexus S tried selling in a big box retailer.
Galaxy Nexus is now carrier-subsidized, carrier-branded.
As I think irishrally already said, as long as fastboot oem unlock is enabled, just accept that as all we really want anway
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That's NOT how it works. Maybe for certain carriers. I know for a fact that T-Mobile does not recognize the Nexus S as a phone they support/sell. When i was grabbing one back last December, they made it clear to me over the phone that they offer ZERO support for the phone or any of its problems (reboot 5 times a day, anyone?) All "support" comes from the phone's radios ability to communicate on T-Mo towers, and Google's OTA updates, which I think we can agree were shoddy at best. T-Mo doesn't want to have anything to do with the NS updates.
Sprint, on the other hand, has some updates they perform on their end. It's all carrier-dependent. The idea of the perfect Nexus line staying completely pure went to hell when the NS4G was released, and when Google decided to screw over GSM Nexus S users with the Google Wallet thing. Don't think for a second that there wasn't money changing hands over that 4g exlusive release.
I think, in this case, Verizon's just being dicks as usual and strong-arming everyone. Google could have told them to stick it where the sun dont shine, but would have missed out on the biggest portion of the market in the US.
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Also, as far as people on T-Mo being disappointed or not -- I'd be wary of purchasing ANY new phone based off T-Mo compatibility with the pending takeover by AT&T. Yet another reason I WONT be getting this phone.
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I really hope sprint didn't waste money on wallet 4g users are such a small subset I think its a small beta and with sprint nit having many people soo
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http://news.cnet.com/8301-1023_3-57560532-93/google-x-phone-to-compete-with-apple-and-samsung-wsj/
http://www.engadget.com/2012/12/21/motorola-x-phone-x-tablet-rumor-android-smartphone/
Sounds like they're using their Motorola acquisition to make a phone, and seems to be on Verizon, as well. I guess it might just be a Nexus that goes on Verizon so that they can tailor to GSM, and CDMA as well. Might just be an inflated rumor, though, since Google did once say they weren't going to use Motorola as a means to compete with their suppliers' phones. Some good news for the CDMA folks?
Might even be somewhat like that Verizon Galaxy Nexus release they had, except this time, it's with a new phone.
So as the title states I am due for an upgrade soon with tmobiles jump program and I currently have the HTC One M8.
Had it not been for the lack of LTE radio bands on this device I would be keeping it.
I have been looking at newer 2015 flagships and none have really stood out and said "buy me", which seems rather sad to be honest, anyone else feel this way?
I am considering jumping back a generation and getting the iPhone 5S 64GB since it has the storage I want and all the radio bands I would need with tmo launching new towers and that if I did choose to jump to an mvno of ATT I know it would work.
I had considered two android flagships which are the LG G4 and the Samsung Galaxy s6, but im still not sold on them completely.
Anyone have any suggestions or thoughts about this?
If you want or need support for Band 12 (700 MHz A-block), no iPhone will provide it, unless Apple decides to provide it in the next version.
Otherwise, if I was getting a top-of-the-line phone, I'd be considering the G4, mainly for the SD slot and removable battery. IMO, Samsung ruined the S6 by getting rid of those features.
I would wait to see what motorola puts out. The droid lineup and the motoX have been great phones. Moto usually does their flagships later in the year and this will be the second set of flagship phones they release under Lenevo.
I just got the LG G4, going from the Note 4. Leant charge as fast and runs the Bart down 75% Bart with th browsing for an hour. Button on the back taking some getting used to. But yes it has to have sd slot and removable batt.
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Btw on first jump plan, every 3 months new phone plus tax
I started to look more into the LG G4 yesterday afternoon and later that night to see if it would be something I could get behind and for the most part I can see myself using it.
I do like that it has the ability to swap batteries and take up to a 2TB sd card, which could be handy in the long run.
Ultimately I just wanted a device that was able to move seemlessly across tmo and att without much restriction other than getting the carrier unlock. Knowing now that the G4 H815 is the same model on tmo and att its practically a no brainer.
The only one downside I will not like is that despite it having a premium feel due to the leather, it is still ultimately a plastic device. I love my HTC One M8 and its build quality, but the lack of LTE band support slays me. Why introduce a device with only band 4 and 17 for LTE? I mean my wife and I were driving across rural west Texas the other day and she was pulling 4G LTE where I was barely pulling 2G, what was HTC Thinking?
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I would wait to see what motorola puts out. The droid lineup and the motoX have been great phones. Moto usually does their flagships later in the year and this will be the second set of flagship phones they release under Lenevo.
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I was considering a 1st gen moto X when they first launched, but at the time I had an LG G2 and was enjoying that device. I have seen the steps moto has made from some of the earlier droids and I have been impressed especially with the new Moto X. If Tmo had a way to get it on their store without having to pay full price for it on motos store then I would get it id imagine.
Yea, my main device is a droid turbo. Would have gone with the moto x but I love the battery life on the turbo.
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so we currently are on verizon. our signal is weak at home and heard at&t services our area well.. so im realy cinsidering the switch.. it sucks going outside to make phone calls..
what at&t devices have development going on?? root, backup.. you know..
we switched to verizon a year ago from tmobile. i got a htc dsire 626 that had no dev whatsoever.. going from a rom junkie to no means at all was crazy.. i hate phones with buttons but in this case it seems if i have to do it, i have to do it..
I know the feeling. I thought the Galaxy S4 would be a "nice cheap upgrade" from the Captivate (Galaxy S, AT&T branded ofc) which spoiled me to no end. I'd love to find something as open as that.
Right now, I'm looking at just outright outta-contract buying an unlocked phone and just doing the legwork to make sure it works with AT&T antenna wise.
Of course everyone's needs and wants are different but amongst my group the winners seem to be OnePlus Three, LG G4/5, for those who are flash-happy.
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I know the feeling. I thought the Galaxy S4 would be a "nice cheap upgrade" from the Captivate (Galaxy S, AT&T branded ofc) which spoiled me to no end. I'd love to find something as open as that.
Right now, I'm looking at just outright outta-contract buying an unlocked phone and just doing the legwork to make sure it works with AT&T antenna wise.
Of course everyone's needs and wants are different but amongst my group the winners seem to be OnePlus Three, LG G4/5, for those who are flash-happy.
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cool i'll have to take a look into those.. yeah the desire 626 had literally no dev for the verizon side.. metropcs got a little but it was dead for the most part.. i just delt with it, gave up, but never lost interest.. now that we are thinking of switching again, ima do more research before get anything..
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