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Does root stop official ROM installation?

I want to root my 2.3.6 i9023 but I am not 100% sure of what the repercussions of this will be, can someone please confirm:
-As per the tutorial for i9023, I must unlock the bootloader which will wipe all my apps and SD card data?
-Is there a way to root without installing CWM? I really just want root access on the stock ROM and at this moment in time, don't need CWM.
--EG: Can I unlock the bootloader and then reboot into the stock ROM and install Superuser from the Market?
-When I unlock the bootloader, does that wipe the stock ROM off the phone as well or is it just the data?
-Once rooted, I will no longer get OTA notifications of updates, but I can install manually the official update package?
--Once the stock ROM is rooted, can I still use the Nexus stock recovery to flash official ROM updates or will I need CWM?
I have rooted a phone before and I know what I'm doing with custom ROMs but the Nexus S seems to have different procedures.
Cheers!

Yes. You have to unroot so that OTA update can be installed.
Go to "Nexus S General" and find section "All OTA ROMs".

TheManicGibbon said:
-As per the tutorial for i9023, I must unlock the bootloader which will wipe all my apps and SD card data?
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Yep.
TheManicGibbon said:
-Is there a way to root without installing CWM? I really just want root access on the stock ROM and at this moment in time, don't need CWM.
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Yes, you can root without actually installing CWM. You can use the command fastboot boot recovery.img to temporarily boot into CWM instead of fastboot flash recovery recovery.img that will replace the stock recovery with CWM.
TheManicGibbon said:
--EG: Can I unlock the bootloader and then reboot into the stock ROM and install Superuser from the Market?
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No, the su binary needs to be installed as system app. So it's easiest to flash it via CWM.
TheManicGibbon said:
-When I unlock the bootloader, does that wipe the stock ROM off the phone as well or is it just the data?
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Just the data.
TheManicGibbon said:
-Once rooted, I will no longer get OTA notifications of updates, but I can install manually the official update package?
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I believe you will still get the notification. However, the update process won't work if you don't have stock recovery.
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--Once the stock ROM is rooted, can I still use the Nexus stock recovery to flash official ROM updates or will I need CWM?
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The official full OTA can be flashed via either stock or CWM recovery.

Thanks for that comprehensive reply
While researching, I have since found this which is confirmed working with the i9023 on 2.3.6. What I'm wondering is, how does it root without wiping all your data (it doesn't appear to unlock the bootloader)
Finally, if I have rooted stock 2.3.6 with the stock recovery, I will have to unroot (using this method I presume) and then I can flash the OTA ICS update whenever it comes through the stock recovery, correct?

TheManicGibbon said:
While researching, I have since found this which is confirmed working with the i9023 on 2.3.6. What I'm wondering is, how does it root without wiping all your data (it doesn't appear to unlock the bootloader)
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I guess the script uses an exploit in the firmware to temporarily gain root access and copy the necessary files into the system partition.
TheManicGibbon said:
Finally, if I have rooted stock 2.3.6 with the stock recovery, I will have to unroot (using this method I presume) and then I can flash the OTA ICS update whenever it comes through the stock recovery, correct?
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You can just flash the full OTA. The phone will be unrooted and recovery will be reverted back to stock.

Thanks again, brilliant info!

Question about CWM before ICS update

I just rooted my TF101 using ViperMod but now I'm not sure whether I should install CWM recovery or not if I want to install further OTAs. I have read some threads but couldn't come up with a clear answer. I read somewhere that only stock recovery can receive OTA updates but also read that CWM can receive them too. If I can't install CWM then what ROMs can I install with stock recovery? What's the best way to go if I want to be ready for the ICS? Thanks!!

theremix said:
I just rooted my TF101 using ViperMod but now I'm not sure whether I should install CWM recovery or not if I want to install further OTAs. I have read some threads but couldn't come up with a clear answer. I read somewhere that only stock recovery can receive OTA updates but also read that CWM can receive them too. If I can't install CWM then what ROMs can I install with stock recovery? What's the best way to go if I want to be ready for the ICS? Thanks!!
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Technically you'll still receive the OTA update you just can't apply it if you have CWM or a custom ROM installed.
You can't install custom ROM without CWM (if you have an older SBK tablet you can use NVFlash with a compatible ROM).

So I shouldn't install cwm until the ICS drops right?
Sent from my Transformer TF101 using Tapatalk

If you want to update to ICS via OTA don't instal CWM.
As you have been told, you will get the OTA message but the update will fail.
So you have two choices (or three):
* Keep stock recovery and update to ICS when the OTA update is available
* Install CWM and update to ICS as soon as a DEV publishes an ICS ROM
* Install CWM and remove it as soon as you know the OTA is due (pretty lame, but you could do it).
Regards.

CalvinH said:
If you want to update to ICS via OTA don't instal CWM.
As you have been told, you will get the OTA message but the update will fail.
So you have two choices (or three):
* Keep stock recovery and update to ICS when the OTA update is available
* Install CWM and update to ICS as soon as a DEV publishes an ICS ROM
* Install CWM and remove it as soon as you know the OTA is due (pretty lame, but you could do it).
Regards.
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Thanks, I think I'll just wait for the OTA as I want to update as soon as ICS drops in.
Sent from my PC36100 using Tapatalk

I have a question about removing CWR. Actually 2.
1. Can't we just uninstall and wipe data with Titanium since it was installed as an .apk- from Gnufabio? (pretty sure this won't work but thought I would throw it out there anyways). Where is the recovery located on a tablet (what folders) Same as in phones?
2. Can we just flash the stock recovery by itself and not reset back to .13 or younger? If I am running stock ROM, it seems that I should be able to just reflash the stock recovery and replace it w/o changing the ROM or factory reset.
I have no problem doing it the long way but if it doesn't need to be done and we can replace the CWR with stock and not tamper with the ROM, it seems logical.
Clearly I just got the tab recently and have been reading and reading but they seem so much different than the way phones work. I am very comfortable flashing ROMs/Kernels/Mods on phones, but just a little intimidated with the tablet (for now).

Woodrube said:
I have a question about removing CWR. Actually 2.
1. Can't we just uninstall and wipe data with Titanium since it was installed as an .apk- from Gnufabio? (pretty sure this won't work but thought I would throw it out there anyways). Where is the recovery located on a tablet (what folders) Same as in phones?
2. Can we just flash the stock recovery by itself and not reset back to .13 or younger? If I am running stock ROM, it seems that I should be able to just reflash the stock recovery and replace it w/o changing the ROM or factory reset.
I have no problem doing it the long way but if it doesn't need to be done and we can replace the CWR with stock and not tamper with the ROM, it seems logical.
Clearly I just got the tab recently and have been reading and reading but they seem so much different than the way phones work. I am very comfortable flashing ROMs/Kernels/Mods on phones, but just a little intimidated with the tablet (for now).
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1- The RecoveryInstaller app only help to flash the recovery image so no you can just delete it.
2- You can flash a stock recovery image via CWM. You can get a repacked version here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1154947&highlight=unroot

baseballfanz said:
2- You can flash a stock recovery image via CWM. You can get a repacked version here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1154947&highlight=unroot
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I figured that would be the case with the executable part of the apk.
I read that thread but wasn't sure if only the stock recovery by itself could be flashed w/o the prepacked ROM.

[Q] Install CWM but SU doesn't work

I can't install CWM. I know there's that recovery installer apk but my transformer says there was a problem parsing the package. I don't know of any other way. I also tried unrooting my tablet by flashing a WW stock rom and stock recovery but Superuser stayed and it doesn't even work. It's basically all messed up. Can someone help me please?

Since you went back to stock ROM, do wipe data from boot menu and root again with Vipermod, and then try running the recovery installer apk.

What firmware are you on? That message is either a bad download or your firmware is not compatible with the apk.
Now you also say you flash WW ROM and stock recovery, how did you flash it without cwm?

horndroid said:
Since you went back to stock ROM, do wipe data from boot menu and root again with Vipermod, and then try running the recovery installer apk.
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What boot menu?
baseballfanz said:
What firmware are you on? That message is either a bad download or your firmware is not compatible with the apk.
Now you also say you flash WW ROM and stock recovery, how did you flash it without cwm?
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8.2.3.13. I flashed them when I still had CWM and fully rooted.

MarshMad_ness said:
8.2.3.13. I flashed them when I still had CWM and fully rooted.
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Yeah you flashed the repacked ROM. That's pretty outdated firmware. You need to manually update to the latest ICS (if it doesn't auto update), use ViperMod to root and RecoveryInstaller for CWM.

baseballfanz said:
Yeah you flashed the repacked ROM. That's pretty outdated firmware. You need to manually update to the latest ICS (if it doesn't auto update), use ViperMod to root and RecoveryInstaller for CWM.
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How do I manually update? Is that when you go into settings and stuff and check to see if you have the latest software? Cause I do that and it says that I already have the latest version.

I tried updating manually but it didn't work. I guess I should include that I tried deleting the superuser files from /system/bin/su and /system/xbin/su. I deleted the one in the xbin because there wasn't one in the bin. It's still messed up.

[HOW-TO] Return to stock rooted ICS US 9.2.1.21 from custom rom (One Stop Shop)

I decided to return to stock today so i could check out the newest ota which was not implemented in my fav rom yet. I soon realized its a pain in the ass to get there. Flash rom, update, update, etc, etc. And even worse is tracking down all the threads required for it.
Though I've narrowed it down to three or four, I thought i'd make a thread to put it all in one spot.
First off thanks to the members/devs that make these updates and roms for us. I dev on the HTC eVO 4g and know how time consuming and tedious it can be.
I am renaming and reuploading all the files required to ensure links stay current and are easy to follow. I will however be linking to all original threads where i got the files as well as giving props to the members who provided them.
I have a US version TF101 and will only be testing on that device. I dont know what works on tf101G, WW, TW models etc
I will update this thread as new rooted ota's come out.
ALL YOU NEED TO INSTALL IS A ALREADY ROOTED ASUS TRANSFORMER WITH A CUSTOM RECOVERY
THIS WILL NOT ROOT YOUR DEVICE, UN-ROOT YOUR DEVICE OR CHANGE YOUR CURRENT RECOVERY.
DONT FORGET TO BACK UP ALL YOURS APPS/DATA
FOR US VERSIONS ONLY
- STEP 1 - WIPE (DOWNLOAD) (This wipe zip was originally provided HERE by mike1986.
This script will erase and format your system and cache partition using EXT4 file-system ---Your external SD card and internal virtual SD card (/data/media) will remain untouched
- STEP 2 - FLASH STOCK ROOTED 9.2.1.11 FULL ROM AND REBOOT/SETUP (DOWNLOAD) originally provided here by MrNago
- STEP 3 - FLASH ROOTED OTA 9.2.1.17 AND REBOOT (DOWNLOAD) originally provided HERE by daoist
-STEP 4 - FLASH ROOTED OTA 9.2.1.21 AND REBOOT (DOWNLOAD) originally provided HERE by gee one

FOR WW VERSIONS ONLY
- STEP 1 - WIPE (DOWNLOAD) (This wipe zip was originally provided HERE by mike1986.
This script will erase and format your system and cache partition using EXT4 file-system ---Your external SD card and internal virtual SD card (/data/media) will remain untouched
- STEP 2 - FLASH STOCK ROOTED 9.2.1.11 FULL ROM AND REBOOT/SETUP (DOWNLOAD) originally provided here by MrNago
CANT FIND ROOTED VERSIONS OF THE NEXT FEW UPDATES THAT DONT REQUIRE ROOT KEEPER, SO IM STOPPING HERE. THIS WILL GET YOU STARTED THOUGH. i JUST DONT WANT TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR NEWBS THAT CANT READ LOSING ROOT.
FAQ
-Will this root my transformer = no
-Will I lose root if i flash this = NO
-Can i flash this on top of a custom rom = NO
-Will this replace the custom recovery with the stock recovery? = NO, this will not touch your current recovery
-OMG, I lost root after this = NO you didnt or you did something wrong.

Can you explain why step 2 and 3 are needed?
You couldn't go from 1 to 4 if you want 9.2.1.21?

locutus7o9 said:
Can you explain why step 2 and 3 are needed?
You couldn't go from 1 to 4 if you want 9.2.1.21?
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its my understanding that you have to have the last prior ota installed to be able to install the next. The last update may not include everything from the others.

Will this replace the custom recovery with the stock recovery?

xbs said:
Will this replace the custom recovery with the stock recovery?
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I knew i'd forget one of the typicals in the FAQ..
Answer is no, this will not change/touch your current recovery

I wanted to return to stock Rom too, but I have seen your topic too late....
I first saved my root with rootsavekeeper
I have wiped cache and dalvik, and then install the rom
Now, I have a bootloop with the Asus logo, and if I try boot in recovery, I have the red robot
If u have a solution, I take it
Sorry for my english

jouix said:
I wanted to return to stock Rom too, but I have seen your topic too late....
I first saved my root with rootsavekeeper
I have wiped cache and dalvik, and then install the rom
Now, I have a bootloop with the Asus logo, and if I try boot in recovery, I have the red robot
If u have a solution, I take it
Sorry for my english
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What ROM did you flash? If you flashed the official ROM from Asus you unrooted the TF.
Looks like you have stock recovery now.

Yes I have
My biggest problem is to get out on this sh*t Now

jouix said:
Yes I have
My biggest problem is to get out on this sh*t Now
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Try this.
Hold Vol down plus power button
When you get the option of COld boot Linux or wipe data,
choose wipe data.

jouix said:
Yes I have
My biggest problem is to get out on this sh*t Now
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What model do you have? B50, B60, B70?
If you have a B50 or B60, try this
Once you get back to stock honeycomb, you'll have to root it again.

@baseballfanz : Guy, you have saved my tablet .. I had almost throwed it in the garbage
@ldc2335 : I have bought it in France, and no idea about the version, sorry .. (I don't have the dock)
Well, now, I willl see if it is stable or not :
- if it is, I need to find the way to root it (but I have read it's not possible with the last Rom, right ?)
- if not ... I will try to return to Honeycomb and sell this piece of sh*t, and I will buy the Galaxy S3 or will wait for the Note 2
Thx again !!!!

I use NVflash way and from modded(rooted/CWM/Overclock) 9.2.1.17 directly flash back to stock clean 9.2.1.17 and it's very quick... and root it agan via Vipermod and flash 9.2.1.21 update zip.. Takes about lest than 30mins..

Thats one way to do it. I just dont wanna re-root etc.
Flash, reboot, flash, reboot, flash, reboot..done Definitly 30 mins or less.

jouix said:
@baseballfanz : Guy, you have saved my tablet .. I had almost throwed it in the garbage
@ldc2335 : I have bought it in France, and no idea about the version, sorry .. (I don't have the dock)
Well, now, I willl see if it is stable or not :
- if it is, I need to find the way to root it (but I have read it's not possible with the last Rom, right ?)
- if not ... I will try to return to Honeycomb and sell this piece of sh*t, and I will buy the Galaxy S3 or will wait for the Note 2
Thx again !!!!
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If you can return to honeycomb, then just reroot and then flash any rom you want. Whats the issue?

Simple, clear, straightforward directions - very nice. The file naming is clever also, no "now which file do I flash next?..."

Does anyone have a clue where i can find cwm flashable WW Stock Roms with Original Recovery and no root?
Want to revert back to full basic!
(Tried to flash Stock Rom from Asus Website via CWM, didn't work...)

Try This
JohnMcLane said:
Does anyone have a clue where i can find cwm flashable WW Stock Roms with Original Recovery and no root?
Want to revert back to full basic!
(Tried to flash Stock Rom from Asus Website via CWM, didn't work...)
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Try this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1558170
i just used the search bar above, im sure theres more than this one.
You will also need a NVflashable tf101 with this....

I hve succesfully flashed the .11 version, but when I try to update to the next version, it restarts, and starts loading the installation as it is supposed to, ut then it says "installation aported"
I am using Rootkeeper and CWM, and have temp. unrooted, I am using a B70 WW.
Anyone have a solution?

Sumsar94 said:
I hve succesfully flashed the .11 version, but when I try to update to the next version, it restarts, and starts loading the installation as it is supposed to, ut then it says "installation aported"
I am using Rootkeeper and CWM, and have temp. unrooted, I am using a B70 WW.
Anyone have a solution?
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Same here, its an assert issue, I remember dealing with it when flashing my epic touch and I believe that had to do with the version of CWM that it was being flashed from
can anyone confirm?
EDIT: B40 using roach v5.5.0.4 r2 CWM

Installed Jelly Bean Want To Go Back To ICS

I rooted & installed CWM via the one-click method. It installs Rogue XM Recovery 1.3.0.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1689193
I backed everything up in CWM so that when & if I flashed back everything would be backed up. So I flashed Jelly Bean
[ROM][JB][4.1.1] AOSP build #4 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1779133
I played around with & didn't see what the big deal was with Jelly Bean was. Also was irritated that there was no file explore built into the ROM. I really like the one on Asus ICS ROM. Anyway I go back into recovery to install the stock Asus ICS ROM (US_epaduser9_2_1_27UpdateLauncher.zip). It tries but aborts
Finding update package...
Opening update package ...
Installing update...
Installation aborted.
What am i missing or doing wrong?

Well for starters the only reason the stock ICS roms have a file explorer is because its an Asus proprietary app, every custom ICS, or JB rom will require you to download one. Secondly are you trying to re-flash the stock rom or restore your back up? Id recommend you try using TWRP

JoinTheRealms said:
Well for starters the only reason the stock ICS roms have a file explorer is because its an Asus proprietary app, every custom ICS, or JB rom will require you to download one. Secondly are you trying to re-flash the stock rom or restore your back up? Id recommend you try using TWRP
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Just trying to re-flash the stock ROM.

jadesse said:
Just trying to re-flash the stock ROM.
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I think i seen this before you are trying to flash an update to a rom not that actual rom......check the file size. I haven't had any issue converting Jb back to ICS. you have to flash a fresh install of the version you backed up then you can flash the back up you made. The mounting from ICS to JB is different and you cannot go backwards without flahsing a clean rom first.

itj1228 said:
I think i seen this before you are trying to flash an update to a rom not that actual rom......check the file size. I haven't had any issue converting Jb back to ICS. you have to flash a fresh install of the version you backed up then you can flash the back up you made. The mounting from ICS to JB is different and you cannot go backwards without flahsing a clean rom first.
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I downloaded the newest firmware straight from the Asus website. That is what I am trying to flash but it fails to. If I should be doing something else then please tell me.

Did you unzip the download and flash the zip that is inside? For some reason Asus packages a zip within a zip. You need the one on the inside to flash.

Woodrube said:
Did you unzip the download and flash the zip that is inside? For some reason Asus packages a zip within a zip. You need the one on the inside to flash.
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I feel like such a moron because that was the issue. I found the .24 firmware that I had extracted to a folder with the need zip file in side. I was able to flash t e.24 with out an issue. I knew my issue was something stupid but I could put my finger on it right away.

You might want to go back to the ASUS site and download the newer firmware(.27) and do the same thing(install the zip inside the zip) That's the newest Official ASUS Firmware.
http://support.asus.com/Download.aspx?SLanguage=en&m=Eee+Pad+Transformer+TF101&p=20&s=16

sfot said:
You might want to go back to the ASUS site and download the newer firmware(.27) and do the same thing(install the zip inside the zip) That's the newest Official ASUS Firmware.
http://support.asus.com/Download.aspx?SLanguage=en&m=Eee+Pad+Transformer+TF101&p=20&s=16
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I already had it.