is the new hboot for ICS unlockable at HtcDev?
also if i flash new firmware for ICS, what device do i choose? tmob or the Sensation EU?
If you're already s-off, why do you want to unlock? You wont get tye ffastboot flash commands working. The only thin it changes is in the hboot screen, instead of *****LOCKED****** (which it really isn't) it shows ******UNLOCKED*****. There is literally no difference. You're still s-off, and you get to keep you warranty.
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thanks, i dont want to lose fastboot, only reason i dont want to update , but all the new ICS roms want to flash new firmware and radio, which it needs new hboot...
If you're going to run a sense based 4.0.3 ics rom, then you MUST flash the frimware. There's no way around it.
But you can get around the fastboot stuff, you can make a .zip that you can flash through hboot (just like you would firmware).
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yea i know bout that but i want to avoid doing that as well, i dont want to keep use PDIMG im use to fastboot, but i guess if anything i can always go back down to hboot 1.17 and jus stick with what even ICS that doesnt really requirenew F/w
New HBOOT 1.23 make GB 2.3.4, 2.3.5 much faster also .
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Is there a way to revert back to pre-OTA/2.3.3? It seems like there are many more issues that fixes with this OTA. I hardly had any problems at all, and now my camera won't focus (can't use any barcode/qr readers), I'm getting the annoying screen capture/home button problem, etc, etc...
Quite annoying and I would have hoped that they would have come up with a fix by now.
RUU is the only way, which means losing all data (unless you root/back up first) - and you'd need to set your phone to Super CID to go backwards (I think) from a newer version to and older one
EddyOS said:
RUU is the only way, which means losing all data (unless you root/back up first) - and you'd need to set your phone to Super CID to go backwards (I think) from a newer version to and older one
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As long as you're using the correct RUU for the phone, you don't need to change CID. I did it on my T-Mobile Sensation, from OTA 2.3.4 back to stock 2.3.3 through the RUU.
nxt said:
As long as you're using the correct RUU for the phone, you don't need to change CID. I did it on my T-Mobile Sensation, from OTA 2.3.4 back to stock 2.3.3 through the RUU.
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EddyOS said:
RUU is the only way, which means losing all data (unless you root/back up first) - and you'd need to set your phone to Super CID to go backwards (I think) from a newer version to and older one
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He'll be okay flashing an RUU without SuperCID, it's only needed if flashing an RUU not authorized by the device.
Basically, if the update changed Hboot, he'll need to run revolutionary, then run RUU again as RUU doesn't accept downgrading hboot, which gives weird error codes.
The only way I figured out, was using Revolutionary as it updates the Hboot to an older one.
But as I understand OTA doesn't update Hboot. Right?
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Probably showing my ignorance but i would like to know if any functionality is lost by changing the bootloader of a rom to the revolutionary bootloader when s-offing the rom?
I would also be grateful if somebody could explain to me what improvements or ill effects a change of bootloader can invoke i.e. what parts of the functionality of the rom do the bootloader effect.
Bootloader doesn't affect the ROM at all. The bootloader is just what boots into a rom.
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Probably showing my ignorance but i would like to know if any functionality is lost by changing the bootloader of a rom to the revolutionary bootloader when s-offing the rom?
I would also be grateful if somebody could explain to me what improvements or ill effects a change of bootloader can invoke i.e. what parts of the functionality of the rom do the bootloader effect.
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If you go through the Revolutionary process. You'll get a Hboot with a slightly different version.
You will however, get S-OFF and Su and a Custom Recovery (ClockworkMod, CWM).
The phone will operate normally. You will have the opportunity of backing it up (Nandroid), installing apps that require Root access and install Custom ROMs.
As I think the other poster mentioned, can't see it ATM, the bootloader is Phone based and independent of the ROM.
I originally used a similar process (AlphaRev) on my desire, AlphaRev and Unrevoked produced Revolutionary together.
From personal experience, it has not affected my phone in any adverse manner, as always YMMV. It opened possibilities though.
Then why are there different bootloaders??
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Then why are there different bootloaders??
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Usually 'cos HTC release slightly different versions of them.
The latest one 1.19 seems more locked down for example.
TBH most folks just use Revolutionary to S-OFF etc. then just leave it at that, mine is 1.17.1111 Once it's done it's done. There is a new Radio that seems to require 1.19 but as my phone works well with the current version I have installed, I'm leaving that well alone.
According to their site they can apply S-OFF to the following versions: HTC Sensation (pyramid) 1.17.0006, .0008, .0011 and .0012, 1.18.0000
What are you actually trying to do / want to achieve ?
what u loose is if u are on stock can update using HTC OTA
If u are stock rom u will not be able to make the OTA updates as it will hang since it expect its own hboot, this is the drawback I know. u will have them to reload a stock copy to have the official hboot and recovery again.
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If u are stock rom u will not be able to make the OTA updates as it will hang since it expect its own hboot, this is the drawback I know. u will have them to reload a stock copy to have the official hboot and recovery again.
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Good point.
However Custom ROMs seem to be "nicer" and tend to have updates earlier.
EDIT: As a fellow Vodafone UK user I thought I'd add that: When I had my HTC Desire (was running Eclair initially) and Froyo was being released, Vf UK was one of the slowest companies to release it. As the newer Froyo offered significant improvements I jumped at the chance to go for a Carrier independent ROM that supported Froyo. Thus freeing myself from Vf release schedule and also removing the Vf bloat ware that I never used. I did suffer a set back when I got the Sensation as initially S-OFF wasn't possible. This situation looks like it'll repeat itself with the release of ICS. PM if you want more info.
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Usually 'cos HTC release slightly different versions of them.
The latest one 1.19 seems more locked down for example.
TBH most folks just use Revolutionary to S-OFF etc. then just leave it at that, mine is 1.17.1111 Once it's done it's done. There is a new Radio that seems to require 1.19 but as my phone works well with the current version I have installed, I'm leaving that well alone.
According to their site they can apply S-OFF to the following versions: HTC Sensation (pyramid) 1.17.0006, .0008, .0011 and .0012, 1.18.0000
What are you actually trying to do / want to achieve ?
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I am trying to achieve the best possible stock experience but i don't want to lose the ability to root.
The reason i was asking was the fact that it was stated that, the new h-boot was needed for the new radio to work properly on the leaked ics with sense RUU which suggests that the bootloaders have slightly different functionality.
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I am trying to achieve the best possible stock experience but i don't want to lose the ability to root.
The reason i was asking was the fact that it was stated that, the new h-boot was needed for the new radio to work properly on the leaked ics with sense RUU which suggests that the bootloaders have slightly different functionality.
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Ahh you're talking about 11.59..... Sorry I think I got off topic :-((
I've seen a few still using 10.58.........10.15... on ICS with success. I have downloaded an ICS ROM and it seems to work on HBoot 1.17.1111 with my radio. Reflashed back to CM7 though, but I now have the option. I'll reflash ICS again and just confirm it works on 3G and WiFi as usual. I didn't check too far when I first tried. Please bear in mind that these ICS ROMs are based on unreleased versions, so really a taster at the moment.
Ok, so I've literally just bought the HTC Sensation. It was on 2.3.4 stock and I wanted to update to ICS. Unfortunately the ICS OTA update wasn't coming up for me so I decided to try do it myself
What I've done is S-OFF using the revolutionary tool (nothing else), then downloaded this stock ICS ROM, which supposedly is installed differently from other roms. Followed the instructions, and when it finished it gave me a 'ModelID' problem. I tried booting up anyway and now when my phone gets to the 'HTC, quietly brilliant' screen it plays half the splash audio and reboots, this is all it does continuously.
As instructed by that thread for people who got the ModelID problem I changed the ModelID variable in notepad, rezipped and tried the process again. Now it just loads up the FW, gets to 'parsing file' and goes straight back to the main bootloader screen.
Can anyone help me out? I really hope I'm now not left with an expensive paperweight
If it helps Bootloader now says
**LOCKED**
PYRAMID PVT SHIP S-OFF RL
HBOOT 1.27.0000
RADIO-10.14.9035.01_M
eMMC-boot
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Ok, so I've literally just bought the HTC Sensation. It was on 2.3.4 stock and I wanted to update to ICS. Unfortunately the ICS OTA update wasn't coming up for me so I decided to try do it myself
What I've done is S-OFF using the revolutionary tool (nothing else), then downloaded this stock ICS ROM, which supposedly is installed differently from other roms. Followed the instructions, and when it finished it gave me a 'ModelID' problem. I tried booting up anyway and now when my phone gets to the 'HTC, quietly brilliant' screen it plays half the splash audio and reboots, this is all it does continuously.
As instructed by that thread for people who got the ModelID problem I changed the ModelID variable in notepad, rezipped and tried the process again. Now it just loads up the FW, gets to 'parsing file' and goes straight back to the main bootloader screen.
Can anyone help me out? I really hope I'm now not left with an expensive paperweight
If it helps Bootloader now says
**LOCKED**
PYRAMID PVT SHIP S-OFF RL
HBOOT 1.27.0000
RADIO-10.14.9035.01_M
eMMC-boot
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Hi,
Have a good read of THIS THREAD
It should help you out.
Thanks. What I gather from that thread is basically I need to flash back to stock.
I'm sorry for being a noob here but as I don't have Clockwork recovery etc is this going to be OK to do?
Do I need to superCID to flash back to stock? Do I need to root? I'm also not 100% sure on what ROM to download. I was a fool and didn't check versions before I flashed. It was 2.3.4 on 02 UK.
Most guides seem to explain how to flash custom ROM's but I'm not sure how much of that applies to me.
Again, apologies for the basic questions. I just want to ensure I don't want to mangle it anymore than it has and most answers I've found assumes other things have been done other than just S-OFF
Right now I'm trying to install clockwork mod, I've downloaded it, renamed it to PG58IMG, put it in my SD but HBOOT doesn't find anything to install/update.. Can I just superCID and then run the RUU_xxxx.exe to get back to stock?
Find my post in general will help you out I will bump it for you
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Phew! Managed to get back to stock! Used the .exe for 02 UK.
However, now I'm installing ICS. I got into the boot loop again as I assume this is due to not updating the FW. I updated the FW to the one suggested and I'm downloading a different ICS stock ROM to install now.
If this does fail, or I need to get back to 2.3.4, what firmware would I download to back to original?
If you flash the.correct fw u shouldnt have any issues. U need to be supercid as well
HTC Sensation FAUX G
«Virtuous Inquisition 4.0 ICS»
«6.5.3 ARHD Sense 4.0.3»
*VabeachFC*
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Phew! Managed to get back to stock! Used the .exe for 02 UK.
However, now I'm installing ICS. I got into the boot loop again as I assume this is due to not updating the FW. I updated the FW to the one suggested and I'm downloading a different ICS stock ROM to install now.
If this does fail, or I need to get back to 2.3.4, what firmware would I download to back to original?
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3.12 will work for both ics and gb.
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3.12 will work for both ics and gb.
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However you will experience issues with 3.12 fw on ics roms. Almost all ics roms now require the 3.32 FW
HTC Sensation FAUX G
«Virtuous Inquisition 4.0 ICS»
«6.5.3 ARHD Sense 4.0.3»
*VabeachFC*
Thanks all, now running ICS stock, fully rooted, superCID and S-OFF.
I tried to 'Thank' a couple of you but I don't think my post count is high enough.
So I'm still not 100% sure, what FW would I flash it back to if I needed to send it back on my insurance/warranty? Anyone know what the 'stock' would have been for an 02 UK HTC Sensation? (not beats). I'm such a fool for not checking these things beforehand.
jblz said:
Thanks all, now running ICS stock, fully rooted, superCID and S-OFF.
I tried to 'Thank' a couple of you but I don't think my post count is high enough.
So I'm still not 100% sure, what FW would I flash it back to if I needed to send it back on my insurance/warranty? Anyone know what the 'stock' would have been for an 02 UK HTC Sensation? (not beats). I'm such a fool for not checking these things beforehand.
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Hi,
To get back to stock,you can flash hboot 1.17 HERE
I have also got THIS RUU for O2 UK.
I simply went to this thread (after reading so many others) and this was by far the easiest way to get ICS in my opinion.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1542192
Hope that helps you
If you flashed the stock o2 UK RUU then you can't use the unbranded ICS OTA to get ICS. You have to wait on o2 to push the update for their FW version
Hi,
I'm a bit nervous about posting this, as I know I've asked the question before in a different thread, however I feel it's being lost in the excitement of everyone updating to 4.0, and rightly so...
But I I need a bit of help.
Today, when ICS became available, I downloaded it; naturally, and it downloaded fine... however when it came to install it; I'm hitting a brick wall.
It displays the phone shutting down, and then boots into the installation screen; (the one with the black screen, phone and the green arrows; and the progress bar etc) however when the progress bar fills about a third of the way, a red question mark appears where the green arrows were and it boots back into gingerbread.
I've carried out a factory reset on the phone, but it hasn't made a difference.
It's absolutely frustrating the hell out of me; and I've trawled this and other forums, but haven't found a resolution.
I'm S-OFF, via revolution, and have stock recovery.
My CID is HTC__001 and HBOOT is 1.17.1111
I've added a screenshot of the SW info.
Is there any way I could get a bit of help with this please???
I will try to return the favour, somehow.
Thanks in advance, folks
Anyone at all?
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I would say its the Revolutionary S-OFF that won't works well with OTA updates.
So first remove the S-Off and then try again.
SSKYY said:
I would say its the Revolutionary S-OFF that won't works well with OTA updates.
So first remove the S-Off and then try again.
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Tried removing the sd card... It needs it to install the update...
I thought it was down to the bootloader whether or not the ota worked.
Can anyone confirm this?
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Try flashing original HBOOT .nb0 files through adb and try again
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usaff22 said:
Try flashing original HBOOT .nb0 files through adb and try again
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I flashed the original stock recovery; the HBOOT is 1.17.1111; I thought this was the original... is it not?
I Would recommend flashing your stock ruu first then update OTA ICs afterwards. In that way you'll have stock hboot, recovery and rom. Don't worry about your s-off. Flashing stock ruu won't turn it to s-on. You'll lose root though.
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ardom said:
I Would recommend flashing your stock ruu first then update OTA ICs afterwards. In that way you'll have stock hboot, recovery and rom. Don't worry about your s-off. Flashing stock ruu won't turn it to s-on. You'll lose root though.
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I'm not fully rooted, though; only S-OFF via revo. As far as I know, I'm on the stock RUU... ain't I? I appreciate your help loads!
Here's a pic.
I've just installed it with no problem whatsoever on my xe
After researching the bjaysus out of this; would I be right in saying that HBOOT 1.17.1111 (the one I have) is in fact, revolutions firmware, and 1.27.0000 is the stock version, and the reason why my update is ballsing up?? And if so, is there anyone able to help me change it back? I will buy pints for ya!
Cheers
well, again, did you load stock RUU and then update? why don't you directly flash ICS RUU? painless!
I need help!
Hi,
On my sensation XE that I have got onto s-off I haven't fully rooted it I don't think but its on s-off now and I have superuser access, I am living the the UK and ICS was recently released here so I downloaded it but as I went to install it It all went okay and 4EXT was saying it updated successfully but as my Phone rebooted it hung at the HTC bootscreen, I tried it twice just incase it was an error but it didnt work the second time either and each time it won't turn off so I have to take the battery out and restore it to a backup I previously made and was just wandering what I can do as I would like the ICS update.
I advise NOT to update it. It is a very bad effort by HTC as Wi-Fi does not work anyomre (at least in most of Middle East) I've talked to HTC support and they replied with the usual (We are making a fix for [problem here] as quick as possible) clause....... ****heads.
All you need to do is restarting into bootloader, enter recovery, choose option to choose a file from SD and from there, install manually. No need to S-On.
I have been flashing for some time but excuse me if I sound stupid but the grey matter just don't work any more. I have RUU'd different RUU's from the 1.82 to 2.20 trying to get different customs to work and I can't figure out what base I am on. At the time I am using Clean Rom 6.1 R2 and things seem to work fine but just wondering. Some how I managed to go from HBOOT 2.14 I think down to HBOOT 1.09 without downgrading. I think I got it from some RUU. I have read that the HBOOT 1.09 is a golden thing on the phone but don't know why.
With this rom I have tried to flash the 3.18 radio and get a soft brick at the boot screen. I am pretty sure the last time I RUU'd I used the Cingular Us 1.82 and in the process it upgraded itself to the 1.83 . Now I have read that some roms with sense work better on the 3.18 RUU.. Will I loose the HBOOT 1.09 if I do this?
At the present
S-OFF
unlocked
CID 11111111
radio 0.24p..32.09.0501.......
I am just looking and trying different variations to find the best setup for my phone. Excuse me for sounding so stupid. The grey matter just is slush any more.
The 3.18 ruu will give you the 2.14 hboot but sense you are s-off which hboot you have is not that important people wanted the 1.09 hboot because you could flash radios and boot.img with it s-off allows you too do this no matter what hboot you have
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Because you're s-off it doesn't matter what hboot you're on. Sense ROMs tend to run smoother/better with the latest update. So feel free to RUU up to 3.18. Don't relocked your bootloader, just ruu.
If you want to run AOSP ROMs after, though, you'll need to downgrade your touchscreen firmware.
Also for some people cm10 doesn't boot until they've upgraded for some odd reason.
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Because you're s-off it doesn't matter what hboot you're on. Sense ROMs tend to run smoother/better with the latest update. So feel free to RUU up to 3.18. Don't relocked your bootloader, just ruu.
If you want to run AOSP ROMs after, though, you'll need to downgrade your touchscreen firmware.
Also for some people cm10 doesn't boot until they've upgraded for some odd reason.
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I understand that being S-OFF one could do most anything and be safe but I didn't really know if loosing the HBOOT 1.09 had any consequents or not. Plus, didn't know if upgradeing to the 3.18 firmware would be that beneficial or not. At one point I was on the 2.20 and took the OTA ATT udgrade to see what it was about but didn't like the rom ,but I did downgrade the touch screen . There are features with all the customs but don't like any one in particular, wish there some way to combine certain features from each one into one to make one that I liked for my phone. So far the best I can come up with is Clean Rom 6.1R2 with BlueIceSense CR6 and cityID apk. plus the radio from 3.18.
Thanks for understanding loss of grey matter stupidity