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I know there are problems with android using or seeing over 2gb, so i wont bother with talking about that.
Instead, i wonder why i am running very low on memory when there is 2gb internal storage that android will see or use. I removed alot of the att crap using titanium backup.
Android install uses, really, that much for the rom and stuff that ONLY half (1gb) is free for us to use up?
I wonder if its possible to increase the internal memory seen?? Probably not. But i remember back using the hd2 with android we could increase the data file size to 2gb and it had alot more room to play with
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I know there are problems with android using or seeing over 2gb, so i wont bother with talking about that.
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What do you mean? I've got the Captivate, and it has a 2GB ROM and has 1.42GB free, and then both the internal and external SD cards are approx 16GB each and Android sees that.
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What do you mean? I've got the Captivate, and it has a 2GB ROM and has 1.42GB free, and then both the internal and external SD cards are approx 16GB each and Android sees that.
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This has nothing to do with sd cards. Im only talking about INTERNAL memory. The inspire has 4gb INTERNAL and android only can work with 2. So the other 2 of internal memory is useless, right now anyways. I think maybe in the future a newer version of android may be able to use it ..... but whatever
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See, thats what im wondering here. That captivate has 2gb internal and you have 1.42 free. So far it seems i can only get a hair over 1gb free. So it mkes me think the ROM is using almost an entire gig or the internal memory?????
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This has nothing to do with sd cards. Im only talking about INTERNAL memory. The inspire has 4gb INTERNAL and android only can work with 2. So the other 2 of internal memory is useless, right now anyways. I think maybe in the future a newer version of android may be able to use it ..... but whatever
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Ok, I'm not sure on the internal memory or not.
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See, thats what im wondering here. That captivate has 2gb internal and you have 1.42 free. So far it seems i can only get a hair over 1gb free. So it mkes me think the ROM is using almost an entire gig or the internal memory?????
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I've got a lot of apps installed. Including some that takes a lot of space like Need for Speed Shift.
The Inspire 4G has 4GB of internal memory, 1GB of which is usable.
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The Inspire 4G has 4GB of internal memory, 1GB of which is usable.
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I don't understand that... Why? Is this a flaw in the ROM? Android? What is the other 3GB used for?
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I don't understand that... Why? Is this a flaw in the ROM? Android? What is the other 3GB used for?
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Does anyone know?
This might help.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Vision#The_Missing_2GB
I don't care about the other 2gb of memory. I want to know why the Rom uses almost a gig itself and we get left with almost nothing. I know I can move apps to storage card, but that's not what I'm looking for as an answer. Does the Rom actually use a gig and we get left with the other gig? I just don't get how a Rom can use that much.
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It has 1GB of usable storage. Froyo allows you to install apps on the SD card. If you can manage to fill 1GB of non-SD apps then honestly, you have to many apps. That's probably approaching the 3-digit number of apps. Don't worry about specs so much and just focus on actual performance.
I asked HTC why, on a device that's advertised with 4gb internal memory, no one sees more than a little over 1gb free. This was the official response I got from HTC regarding the issue:
Dear Greg,
I understand the importance of being able to use the fully memory capacity of your HTC Inspire 4G. The 4GB of ROM on your device is shared with the operating system and all programs that are pre-installed on the device. I do apologize for any inconvenience that you may have experienced through this.
To send a reply to this message or let me know I have successfully answered your question log in to our ContactUs site using your email address and your ticket number 11USCW09ENA001776.
Sincerely,
Jeffery
HTC
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So, just to be clear. Only having that 1GB of space doesn't bother you?
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So, just to be clear. Only having that 1GB of space doesn't bother you?
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I mean I'm not gonna get my panties in a bunch about it. I have plenty of room on my SD...and if it's true that this space is used to optimize the OS, then OK. It would be nice to have access to all of that storage - but it's not necessary. I wish that this would be how they advertised it though, rather than just saying 4gb internal memory
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So, just to be clear. Only having that 1GB of space doesn't bother you?
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Doesn't bother me at all. I have over 850mb of it free.
Gotta love CM7.
So the OS is using a whopping gig of the internal storage. Ok, i already KNEW that. It still doesnt explain why this phone is using that much and my dell streak has a gig and a half available when reset to factory default and nothing installed.
With the HD2 running froyo off the sd card, and the img set to 2gb, same thing, it had alot more than a gig left. Heck, some roms for that were set with 1gb img file and froyo didnt use it all up from the geckgo.
It just doesnt make any sense to me. Im not looking for more space for apps, i have alot of space left, but when i dont, im going to be going ....... WTF
Im sure there are going to be some app monkeys running out of room and asking the same thing.
On a related note (just to clarify that I am not directly addressing the main issue at hand), I have 21 apps installed, 6 of which are games, and still have .96GB free. How many freaking apps do you guys have installed to be running out of space? At my rate, I would probably have to install over 200 apps to run out of space.
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Ok, since you cant read
IM NOT OUT OF SPACE !!!!!!!
THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH RUNNING OUT OF SPACE
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Since you're not too good at this whole discussion thing, let me explain how we got here.
A) I realize that this thread is about the fact that we only see 1 of the 4GB of internal memory. I don't know exactly why that is.
B) You said in the first post "i am running very low on memory".
C) In a question relating to something you said in your original post, I asked how you could possibly be running low on memory.
D) Relax. Breath. It's going to be ok. Discussions sometimes lead to other questions on related topics. You can't let those questions weigh on you... the burden is too much for a single man to carry. You just have to answer these related questions to free yourself from the awful stress.
what about other phones with more then 4gigs like 8gigs of internal memory? do they still only have about 2gigs worth of space to play with? that's gotta be pretty bogus.
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what about other phones with more then 4gigs like 8gigs of internal memory? do they still only have about 2gigs worth of space to play with? that's gotta be pretty bogus.
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The galaxy s series has 8-16gb but about 3 is set aside for OS and apps. There's one example.
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What I meant for running low on memory is more geared at the Rom taking a whooping 1 gig and out of the 2 gigs Android will see, out of the stupid 4 installed, and that leaves me with a whooping 1 gig. Not a whole lot. As it stands, I have about 800 mg left and I wouldn't consider that running low. We should have about a gig and a half available, if not more. Roms really are only about 250mb. REALLY?????
I guess I need to be a little more clear with my wording
I have just bought an ASUS TF300 and apps can't be moved. Reading online, people say its because ICS doesn't allow it - so what happens when the DS gets ICS?
Not true. Search the net. For example:
http://forums.androidcentral.com/htc-vivid/163799-apps-sd-ics.html
And even if it was true - with 1.1GB of internal memory, why would anyone care? And why would anyone want to move the apps to SD even now?
At least in the versions i tried, there is no switch to allow it/do it automatically, but in the memory -settings there is a utility that 1 clean the cache, 2 move apps 2 sd/remove apps, and 3 remove older messages.
Seen and used on ice cream saga and ice-ds
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Not true. Search the net. For example:
http://forums.androidcentral.com/htc-vivid/163799-apps-sd-ics.html
And even if it was true - with 1.1GB of internal memory, why would anyone care? And why would anyone want to move the apps to SD even now?
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To save space from the internal storage maybe?
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userdesires said:
To save space from the internal storage maybe?
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Save space for what? For having unused internal space and having your apps load much slower and experiencing multiple bugs when mounting/unmounting SD card, like "disappearing" apps?
Having lots of empty (wasted) internal space, taking unnecessary space from SD card and making the system work worse than it can is a great and smart idea, right? Or maybe not. Just like having zillion MB of free RAM. What can you do with free RAM? You can't eat it, it doesn't generate money, and it doesn't do anything useful - just sits there, eating phone's electrical charge and not working. Or, in other word, being wasted.
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Save space for what? For having unused internal space and having your apps load much slower and experiencing multiple bugs when mounting/unmounting SD card, like "disappearing" apps?
Having lots of empty (wasted) internal space, taking unnecessary space from SD card and making the system work worse than it can is a great and smart idea, right? Or maybe not. Just like having zillion MB of free RAM. What can you do with free RAM? You can't eat it, it doesn't generate money, and it doesn't do anything useful - just sits there, eating phone's electrical charge and not working. Or, in other word, being wasted.
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Perhaps I am ignorant, but I understood the more free RAM the better, eg the faster. Not so?
It appears from the replies that there are clunky work arounds, but in essence, yes, in ICS there is no Apps to SD. I better hope I have less than 1GB of Apps then
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Perhaps I am ignorant, but I understood the more free RAM the better, eg the faster. Not so?
It appears from the replies that there are clunky work arounds, but in essence, yes, in ICS there is no Apps to SD. I better hope I have less than 1GB of Apps then
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This you understood wrong. Free ram is wasted ram.
And for apps2sd, of course it works in ICS. Some apps do that even without asking so I have to move them manually back to internal mem.
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Steinhund said:
Some apps do that even without asking so I have to move them manually back to internal mem.
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This is one of the most annoying things about apps2sd, in Gingerbread also. Even if I force the apps by setting pmInstallLocation to internal, those of them defined by their creator in Manifest as "prefer to SD" won't obey - and each update I have to move them back to internal. Very annoying.
The question is simple and the answer is simple too.
Apps in SD, running slow and buggy and after reboot, it might missing sometimes. The only advantage are, it saves internal storage and no need to install apps after reset. Correct me If I'm wrong.
Now close this thread for good.
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NOT TRUE AT ALL!
This is the Android 4.0.4&sense 3.6 for Desire S(OTA,HTC China).
Obviously,it supports move the apps to sdcard.
anazhd said:
The question is simple and the answer is simple too.
Apps in SD, running slow and buggy and after reboot, it might missing sometimes. The only advantage are, it saves internal storage and no need to install apps after reset. Correct me If I'm wrong.
Now close this thread for good.
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I agree, what a pointless thread!
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merlinfury said:
I agree, what a pointless thread!
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Thanks. When I have time I will hunt down the various threads from a year or so back saying what a good thing moving apps was and how beneficial it was to the phone's operation.
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Thanks. When I have time I will hunt down the various threads from a year or so back saying what a good thing moving apps was and how beneficial it was to the phone's operation.
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Yes, at wildfire, desire and such devices, because they had pretty small internal storage that got filled pretty fast. The ds has enough internal storage and if you're not using at least a class 6 sd it will slow the moved apps down, so my advice stay with internal you won't ever fill it except you install about 300 - 500 apps (depending how much games are included not using the sd).
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Yes, at wildfire, desire and such devices, because they had pretty small internal storage that got filled pretty fast. The ds has enough internal storage and if you're not using at least a class 6 sd it will slow the moved apps down, so my advice stay with internal you won't ever fill it except you install about 300 - 500 apps (depending how much games are included not using the sd).
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I disagree; with many games now coming with 1.5gb of data needed this question is entirely relevant.
In fact on ics the move to sd function is disabled. Can provide a ss if needed. Samsung and a few other manufacturers have also confirmed this.
Just my 2pence.
very good job answering the OP's question all. games and apps nowadays are using around 50MB by default (i'm looking at you chrome, grabatron, and google play music), sometimes with additional space being used for on-device caching. at that rate, even with 2GB on-device storage, 20-40 solid modern apps could eat that up in no time, and i know that there are apps out there that take up more space than normal (webster's dictionary (300MB), friggin' MYST (700MB), etc). whats worse, google lifted the market restriction for apps all the way up to 4GB earlier this year. go ahead and try to imagine a 4GB app on 2GB of internal storage.
once you fill up internal storage, your phone will stop doing the things you like it to do, like download text messages, sync email, and keep apps up to date. apps on SD is a real need for some persons. apps2sd or link2sd are good options for apps that you don't use frequently or that don't require extreme speed to complete (like titanium backup, which runs on a schedule once a week in the middle of the night; i really don't care how long it takes to load).
and now the bad news. on some (perhaps most) ics devices (like the optimus 4x and galaxy s3), the ability to move apps to SD is just completely gone. any sd card app mover you install will tell you this and will refuse to do anything. this is because the ROM is configured to use the SD card as secondary storage (it's mounted at /mnt/sdcard/external_sd instead of /mnt/sdcard, and also perhaps formatted differently?).
grain of salt time. my phone has 1.4GB internal storage free. at what point do i start getting worried and consider moving apps to SD? i'd say 100MB is a good time to think about alternative storage, or cleaning out old apps. but, that's just me. i'm not a huge storage user, but do consider the possibility that someone will want that feature.
Ics not supporting moving applications to external sd card
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i have just bought an asus tf300 and apps can't be moved. Reading online, people say its because ics doesn't allow it - so what happens when the ds gets ics?
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idiot google has removed the feature apps2sd from ics and upwards versions.
big apps (games) are automatically installed on sd card
Hello!
So im planning to buy this phone, but there's one problem. I've heard that you only get 2gb of space for the apps. So that left me wondering, is that 2gb of storage only for like apks or for app caches too? Like for example will I be able to install GTA 3, GTA VC and NOVA and Most Wanted all in the same time? They all weigh like 1gb, so that means I can install maybe like 1 or 2 of those games, and that's it? Or the caches of those games go to the rest of the 10gb of storage and I can install them all?
This is the only problem with the phone for me.. I want to be able to install a lot of apps and games, will I be able to do it, without rooting?
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Hello!
So im planning to buy this phone, but there's one problem. I've heard that you only get 2gb of space for the apps. So that left me wondering, is that 2gb of storage only for like apks or for app caches too? Like for example will I be able to install GTA 3, GTA VC and NOVA and Most Wanted all in the same time? They all weigh like 1gb, so that means I can install maybe like 1 or 2 of those games, and that's it? Or the caches of those games go to the rest of the 10gb of storage and I can install them all?
This is the only problem with the phone for me.. I want to be able to install a lot of apps and games, will I be able to do it, without rooting?
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Nah the apps themselves (which are 3~4MB) go to app storage and the 1GB game data goes to sdcard0/Android/data so you can install as many as you want at the same time to fit it into 10GB I'd recommend Modern Combat 4 as well if you like NOVA.
EDIT: This does NOT require root either, I had several large games installed on stock.
Hmm, but there is no sd card on One S. So I suppose the rest of the 10gb internal storage serves as an inbuilt sd card, yes? if so then that's great! Thanks!
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Hmm, but there is no sd card on One S. So I suppose the rest of the 10gb internal storage serves as an inbuilt sd card, yes? if so then that's great! Thanks!
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Exactly.
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Ok, thanks! Then it's awesome! Definitely buying the phone! )
I just want to say, I have been using the Blaze for 6 months, but, everyone else has 4 GB in their Blaze. I only have about 2.5 GB of internal storage. Was there a change in the production or something? View Screenshots.
My phone has the exact same internal storage as you and total space. The 4gb you're referring to could be the external SD card. I'm using a 8gb card at the moment...
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Makes sense.
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My phone has the exact same internal storage as you and total space. The 4gb you're referring to could be the external SD card. I'm using a 8gb card at the moment...
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Well, that makes sense. The phone did come with the external SD card. I never really thought about it cause the external SD card that came with my phone was corrupted. I have a 2GB external right now. By the way, I use PacRom too.
PAC ROM is top-notch, make sure and thank Ink for the goodness!
It came corrupted? That is a pisscutter, did you get a replacement? I've read this phone can handle add much as 32gb, have yet to go up though...
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PAC ROM is top-notch, make sure and thank Ink for the goodness!
It came corrupted? That is a pisscutter, did you get a replacement? I've read this phone can handle add much as 32gb, have yet to go up though...
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It did come corrupted, and I didn't ask for a replacement. Doesn't seem like a big deal until I can store apps and stuff on my SD card. Also, SD cards are cheap. I just never got around to buying another one.
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I just want to say, I have been using the Blaze for 6 months, but, everyone else has 4 GB in their Blaze. I only have about 2.5 GB of internal storage. Was there a change in the production or something? View Screenshots.
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I just got this phone and I'm wondering about the same thing. There are two "internal storage" bars and they show total space of 1.12 and 1.4G respectively. The SD card remains mostly unused. It seems that the internal storage is partitioned in two? It appears all the appdata is also stored on the 2nd "internal storage". How do i consolidate the two into one, and use the SD card for all the data storage?
Many thanks.
That would be awesome if we could combine the two partitions into one and use a SD as the second. Unfortunately Samsung crippled our phones with their wacky partitions.
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That would be awesome if we could combine the two partitions into one and use a SD as the second. Unfortunately Samsung crippled our phones with their wacky partitions.
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So I take that the partition is permenant?
This really severaly limits the usability of the phone to that of a novice/beginner, with only <2gb for apps and another <2gb for data. Is there any script/app/etc that mounts the 2nd partition to the external SD? I've searched and Link2SD shows up a few times, something I've used on P509 (optimus T) and didn't think I would have to use it again. It works, but it's annoying when it fails. Was hoping for something cleaner than that.
I bought the phone imagining that the 4GB could be used for app and the data would go on SD..
Yea you can swap mounts to use the SD card as the second partition. It's around here somewhere, do a search for swapping internal / external mount points
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Yea you can swap mounts to use the SD card as the second partition. It's around here somewhere, do a search for swapping internal / external mount points
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it seems all of these solution (including link2sd) isn't permenant and would screw up (and it did) after rom update. Link2sd is kinda pointless when it doesn't move the data to the external sd, and mounting scripts would just run into problems when ROM's updated.
There doesn't seem to be a very clean solution for this.. Would have been nicer if they just relied on extSD for storage.. why bother with the SD slot when you store things internally by default?
kinda frustrating really.
Well there's 4gb unformatted, which means 10% less afterwards, so 3.6gb but the system needs space, so there's another chunk gone and then system apps and whatnots are using space, as does cache etc. So we get about 2.5gb usable to us, then we install gapps and the other basics and have about 2gb left.
with a camera app that now allows storage to external, it gets a lot easier. Move big apps to external SD as with music and downloads. I did have some success with the script that swaps internal/external, but now I just get by with the occasional cleanout.
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That would be awesome if we could combine the two partitions into one and use a SD as the second. Unfortunately Samsung crippled our phones with their wacky partitions.
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nothing is crippled, nothing is stolen, missing, or deceptive. buy a 32Gb microsd card and enjoy it.
if you applications don't use sdcard or have the option to, page the developer to change it.
all my apps, backups, videos, pictures, gpx's, waypoints, offline maps, - everything - is on my sdcard. it works fine.
Is there a way to move oculus apps to sdcard? I've just started using this thing and only 14.81 Gb is left . Reminds me Htc desire times, when we had ~140 mb of internal storage.. Well apps on those days were 100 kb - 2 mb in size Now oculus eats gazillions bytes of precious internal storage.
I skimmed few articles about adoptive storage, but as far as I understand Samsung throwed this away
I thought you could move most apps to SD card, have you tried?
If it cannot move the Oculus apps to SD, then VR is going to flop. As 32 GB (24GB actually) is really insufficient to hold regular + VR apps.
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vukis said:
I skimmed few articles about adoptive storage, but as far as I understand Samsung throwed this away
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Give this a try http://www.modaco.com/news/android/...e-adoptable-storage-on-your-s7-s7-edge-r1632/
I went to one of my games for example and changed the storage location and it moved everything. I had to go to the application manager to do it. when you open the application in there just select the storage type which mentions internal and select internal and click move. worked like a charm
Thank you @peachpuff I will try that
@milesk182 I know this feature but it does not work on oculus apps
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Thank you @peachpuff I will try that
@milesk182 I know this feature but it does not work on oculus apps
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@vukis, can you confirm that @peachpuff's solution works? I've only had my phone for about a month and am already out of space!!! I'll be more than happy to go buy a larger SD card if this method will work.
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@vukis, can you confirm that @peachpuff's solution works? I've only had my phone for about a month and am already out of space!!! I'll be more than happy to go buy a larger SD card if this method will work.
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Yes it works, make sure type out the disk stuff properly and migrate data at the end.
Didn't work for me - many Oculus games and apps don't give you the option to move them to the external storage (yes, even with adoptable storage configured).
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Didn't work for me - many Oculus games and apps don't give you the option to move them to the external storage (yes, even with adoptable storage configured).
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Well crap! Haven't bought my card yet. Waiting for a good deal on a 200GB, I only have a 32GB now. Maybe by then they'll fix this. I have about 6 or so VR apps/games and it's killing my space! How did they miss this? Seems like such a blunder to give these headsets out on a phone with limited memory and not give people the ability to add more!
Can confirm. With latest Samsung update can move regular apps to sdcard but not a single oculus app or game can move to adoptable storage.
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Well crap! Haven't bought my card yet. Waiting for a good deal on a 200GB, I only have a 32GB now. Maybe by then they'll fix this. I have about 6 or so VR apps/games and it's killing my space! How did they miss this? Seems like such a blunder to give these headsets out on a phone with limited memory and not give people the ability to add more!
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The phone should have come with 64GB option really. The SD card, even the Samsung Evo Pro+ is slow. Actually, the internal memory controler for the SD card is half the speed of what the Pro+ supports on a PC. Sad really, and it's such a sweet phone. What a shame!
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How did they miss this? Seems like such a blunder to give these headsets out on a phone with limited memory and not give people the ability to add more!
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Probably on purpose because running huge VR games off a (possibly) slow SD card would cause performance issues.
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I thought you could move most apps to SD card, have you tried?
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To use the adaptable storage method you need at least a U3 card. I was about to buy one when I came across this app on google play:
Link2SD allows you to move Gear VR apps to external storage. I have moved 3 successfully and have not encounter a problem. There is a plus version which allows you to link after moving but I'm loving the free version so far!