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has anyone thought about distributing using BitTorrent instead of these file sharing places that add limits?
we can discuss the advantages and disadvantages here.
from what i see:
advantage:
easy distribution
everyone contributes to the dispersal
faster speed
simple
disadvantages:
people might not share
if file is bad or corrupted - waste of time
i'm on a 5/2 mb fiber line. i wouldnt mind helping to distribute. it would also help - statistically - to find which roms are being distributed the most, and which are most popular. -- not just to members of a forum posting that they "like this one the most because...."
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boldfacelies said:
has anyone thought about distributing using BitTorrent instead of these file sharing places that add limits?
we can discuss the advantages and disadvantages here.
from what i see:
advantage:
easy distribution
everyone contributes to the dispersal
faster speed
simple
disadvantages:
people might not share
if file is bad or corrupted - waste of time
i'm on a 5/2 mb fiber line. i wouldnt mind helping to distribute. it would also help - statistically - to find which roms are being distributed the most, and which are most popular. -- not just to members of a forum posting that they "like this one the most because...."
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ya making a bittorrent link would be nice
but ur point about being the file bad or corrupted is the same for http links with bittorrent the file cant get corrupted during upload/download (it will check the hash when its finished)
I vote YES!
Nice idea, but I guess it will done, because will no seeders. Hundred of files but no seeding, it's usual problem of small trackers.
I was thinking the same thing rapidshare et al suck. Problem will always be having seeders available. Usenet is another great option, but requires having a decent provider, and not quite as widespread and easy to use as bittorrent. We could always try having links for rapidshare, bittorent, and usenet (NZBs), and see what happens.
I have a dedicated server, willing to seed pretty much at all times. I am not sure how much traffic a tracker will generate but I am willing to do some testing. Anyone have experience setting up trackers?
and what is somebody makes a site. with only ppc software torrentz?
I have very slow GPRS connection at home... At work I have really quick connection, but Bittorrent is blocked there for obvious reasons... Rapidshare works.
The rapidshare is not the ideal, but for me it is better than torrent... Also remember that these files are not so popular (not so many people downloading ROMs all the time), so you will almost certainly download slower that from rapidshare (because unless you are lucky there will be just one "seed" and you - and even this only if anybody will be willing to make a permanent seed).
Torrent is good for big popular files - the Wizard ROMs do not fall to that category...
Mirek
blackgear - I presume you don't mean warez, right? Because I'm sure you're familiar with our forum rulez.
Guys, if you're going to torrent roms, an alternative idea might be to bunch quite a few roms together into say a 700mb torrent of various roms. That way, those who are generous can seed a bunch of roms all in one go, whereas those who need a specific rom can just download the specific rom from within the torrent.
I think in this way, you're more likely to continue to see the less "popular" roms still being seeded, as they will all be hosted within the big torrent, and the big torrent will also be less likely to end up being "poisoned" by someone/companies with viruses or fakes etc.
IMHO.
V
my honest opinion, this will never work. Torrents were always good for popular mainstream stuff. People should go here for all the information instead of going to some torrent and downloading it, and end up bricking their phone.
thomassster said:
my honest opinion, this will never work. Torrents were always good for popular mainstream stuff. People should go here for all the information instead of going to some torrent and downloading it, and end up bricking their phone.
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couldnt we just include a link to the forum page in a "Read Me" or "Critical Instructions"?
fyi: checking out http://blogtorrent.com/
DownLoading now just for seeding purposes....
I have a 1.2 MB upload....
I will mirror everything posted on the tracker....
Come on all you "doubting thomases", Anything I can do to give back to this community I will do gladly....
this is up, and strong.
there is no logging taking place - unless you upload. only for the sake of moderating anything that may be illegal.
BitTorrent
I'm sure almost all of you will agree with me when i say rapidshare sucks! and by rapidshare I also mean the rest of the rapidshare-like sites (4sites, mediafire, megaupload, etc) ... and its a pain to use them to download roms, especially if there are multiple version roms (lite, full, cube, etc) and you want to get more than one (I'm not cheap or anything, but if I have to give money to download the files [referring to websites' premium account, etc], I'd rather donate the money to the rom-cookers for their hard work)
and I think most of us are familiar with torrents by now ... I searched the forum, and i don't think it has been suggested or brought up before ... but how about having a torrent setup for the roms ...
There are a lot of people (including me ) who are willing to help and share as much as possible ... ideas/comments/suggestions ?
p.s. I hope this isn't against any rules ... correct me if I'm wrong
Well, the problem with torrents is that they have to be on all day or at least until they get an ample amount of seeders so they can stop hosting it. There is a lot of people that have a limited connection and that would make it worse. For those of us who have good internet connections, and can host torrents, then this would be a good idea, but some people cant. Unless they get help from people who have good internet connections.
I've posted most of the files on my site..
http://f1ip.net/Downloads/KaiserFiles
.. and torrent sucks.
I wouldnt download these from a torrent, or anyone elses site other than the authors published links.
How do I know you haven't tampered with it prior to uploading it??
Maybe if the cooks list the MD5 for each release, then I *might* be tempted.
What if xda-devs set up a private tracker?
My torrent client is always running on my pc at home only for private trackers. its not worth having a bunch of leachers and hit and runners if they were hosted on public torrent sites.
f1ip said:
I've posted most of the files on my site..
http://f1ip.net/Downloads/KaiserFiles
.. and torrent sucks.
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I like torrents but still... here my link to the files.... see my signiture:
guys ... use 4shared.com ... no wait ... 5gb ... only max 100mb file limit!
If I am at home well supported torrents are MUCH faster. I think torrents would be a great idea and an MD5 is easy enough to generate.
4shared.com is one of my favorite download sites used on here. It works well when I am at work or on someone else's network that doesn't have the ports set up for bittorrent. But I have never seen the speeds from 4shared.com that I get from bittorrent.
I have flashed a LOT of roms on the forums and the worst thing for me is when rapidshare says "Wait another hour to download". I can tell you that I would seed the ROMs
Just my 2 cents
why
My internet sucks, my wife is always angry that I am here and not talking to her, personally I would like for you all to only host files any place that the cook would like. Really it is up to them. This is a good idea though.
This way I can stare at XDA even longer waiting for the new rom to be placed on my phone.
tilt
Rom..dualtouch v4
radio 1.27.15.32
8525
gave to my wife
now it is a cute paper wait
No torrents for me. I tried downloading a previous ROM from one and it took two hours versus a very quick download with the free rapidshare or megaupload...
(384K DSL)
Just about anything other than rapidshare is better. Latest ones I've used are 2shared.com and 4shared.com. Also Sendspace isn't too bad.
I used to put roms up on Torrents via piratebay and had a box that I left online to seed them. Problem was I saw people pulling, but nobody else was seeding. So the only way torrents will work is if you get others that are willing to pull and share, and not just pull.
why cant you post it on usenet and make a nzb file out of it so anyone can download it fast with grabbit or something and just post the nzb file here thatway people like mfrazzz dont have to seed endlessly and everyone can download the rom fast
dazzle999 said:
why cant you post it on usenet and make a nzb file out of it so anyone can download it fast with grabbit or something and just post the nzb file here thatway people like mfrazzz dont have to seed endlessly and everyone can download the rom fast
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I second this idea!
It's been a while since I patroled the NNTP servers... is there an appropriate group for posting these type of files?
start a new group alt.binairies.xda.kaiser??? for our roms or alt.binairies.xda for all roms posted on this site like the ftp sever before microsoft bashed it
use this forum for nzb posting and the usenet for all the pars and rars so people only need to install a newsreader and download a nzb file not search for all the pars rars manually
keep the acces to the usenet group closed for cookers only so that not anyone can subscribe to the group
the only thing the cookers have to do is upload the file's to the group and create a nzb post it in the forum and everyone is happy
I think torrents are much better idea.
But the tracker should be in xda site and accessible only to registered members of the forum.
If everyone will keep the golden rule of 1.1 ratio, then there are no problems and It will be much better that all free upload sites. rAPIDHSARE sux...
Whatever the case is I think its worth a try...
Great Idea! Also, have a point system based on the ip you use most on here, so when ever you don do your share you loss points and a certain amount of points is required to download certain things! If you cant seed for certian reasons then you will be the excpetion? Eh, good idea?
dazzle999 said:
start a new group alt.binairies.xda.kaiser??? for our roms or alt.binairies.xda for all roms posted on this site like the ftp sever before microsoft bashed it
use this forum for nzb posting and the usenet for all the pars and rars so people only need to install a newsreader and download a nzb file not search for all the pars rars manually
keep the acces to the usenet group closed for cookers only so that not anyone can subscribe to the group
the only thing the cookers have to do is upload the file's to the group and create a nzb post it in the forum and everyone is happy
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Chainfire already did this, it didn't take off at all and it's been a link on the wiki for quite some time now. http://www.jongma.org/xda-nzb/
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Great Idea! Also, have a point system based on the ip you use most on here, so when ever you don do your share you loss points and a certain amount of points is required to download certain things! If you cant seed for certian reasons then you will be the excpetion? Eh, good idea?
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Torrents, a bunch of mirrors, mirrored mirrors and all sorts of things have been discussed in the past. None of them got past the talk stage. If/when they have, they've been completely *OWNED* by the bandwidth usage.
There are hundreds of people downloading these files and you'll be lucky to have a 100:1 ratio for seeding vs. downloading. That means that everyone will get around 2KB/s each, 7x to 21x slower than the typical 15 to 45KB/s download from RapidShare or MegaUpload.
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Torrents, a bunch of mirrors, mirrored mirrors and all sorts of things have been discussed in the past. None of them got past the talk stage. If/when they have, they've been completely *OWNED* by the bandwidth usage.
There are hundreds of people downloading these files and you'll be lucky to have a 100:1 ratio for seeding vs. downloading. That means that everyone will get around 2KB/s each, 7x to 21x slower than the typical 15 to 45KB/s download from RapidShare or MegaUpload.
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Torrents are really only good for 1gb files and up.
Torrents would work fine if it was done on a credits-based system with a private tracker (private meaning you must create an account, not invite only - could be tied together w/forum accounts)
The tracker would enforce at least a 1:1 ratio beyond the first 'free' download, and in the case a torrent gets orphaned the tracker could also hold a local mirror of the files, so when seeds becomes < 1, it kicks on as a seed and finishes at least one person off to keep the torrent alive..
As far as torrents being only really good for 1gb files and up, that holds true for public torrents, but on a private credit based system, arbitrary sizes work fine
Plus people in general have a fixation with making a number grow larger and larger, so a credit-based system has it's own built in motivational driver. It's the basis for most video games out there! (score, xp, level, etc!) You could even give each forum user a special icon or access to a custom tagline, etc. depending on their current level of credits, for another motivational driver to keep seeding up.
Hi XDA,
ive just setup a torrent mirror for most cyanogenmod roms today, its far from complete because the mirror network is currently down but i though i could help a few with this mirror.
the address for the torrent-files is: http://torrent.crystalnet.eu/torrents/ server is located in fr with my seedbox sitting behind every torrent (1gbit) so they should spread pretty fast which ensures high download speeds.
if any of you have download links to more recent CM-Mod roms please provide me with a download link and i will add.
all other roms will come once the cyanogenmod websites are up again
Roms Currently in Torrent:
LG_O2x: cm_p990_full-0.zip.torrent
LG_G2x: cm_p999_full-0.zip.torrent
HTC_Dream/Saphire: update-cm-6.1.0-DS-signed.zip.torrent
ZTE_Blade: update-cm-7.0.2-Blade-signed.zip.torrent
HTC_Buzz: update-cm-7.0.2-buzz-signed.zip.torrent
HTC_Tattoo-Click: update-cm-7.0.2-click-signed.zip.torrent
HTC_Desire_HD: update-cm-7.0.2-DesireHD-signed.zip.torrent
B&N_Nook_Color: update-cm-7.0.2-encore-signed.zip.torrent
??_??: update-cm-7.0.2-NS-signed.zip.torrent
HTC_MyTouch_3G_Slide: update-cm-7.0.2-Slide-signed.zip.torrent
HTC_Desire_Bravoc: update-cm-7.0.2.1-BravoC-signed.zip.torrent
HTC_Desire: update-cm-7.0.2.1-Desire-signed.zip.torrent
Samsung_Galaxy_Tab: update-cm-7_beta0-GalaxyTab-signed.zip.torrent
Greetings from Germany
ALL ROMs should be available via torrent. What is the point of using these annoying upload sites that limit your bandwidth and/or drop connections if you're using the "free" feature. Why don't other ROMs go up on torrents? I for one welcome your torrents even if I'm not downloading any of them!
Thanks for your effort! Somehow, the link doesn't work anymore, but I've generated a bunch of torrents myself... for CyanogenMod releases and nightlies.
See > http://cmtorrent.inportb.com/ < enjoy!
The torrent-bot runs a few times a day, so it should pick up the latest nightlies without too much delay.
There are so many great ROM's here in the Verizon Galaxy S3 community. This afternoon I tried to download 3 of these ROM's, but all their links are down. Finally I found one that was working, but the download speeds are terrible. It took me 30 minutes to download a 600 MB file, which should only have taken 5.
If we move to torrents, download speeds of 2 MB/s per second can be achieved on a moderate internet connection, and would be even faster on a good connection. It would take all the pressure off all the servers and we would never have to worry about anything servers being down.
I have extra bandwidth on my internet and I could host torrents for all the developers that are willing to do this. I would update the torrents daily to the developers latest builds and link them in a thread.
My final idea is that I could create an official STICKY thread in the ANDROID DEVELOPMENT section with a link to all the developers torrents. This would be an easy and quick way of gathering everyone's work into one thread with fast downloads. At the beginning of the guide I would have a link to another thread I have created, explaining how to set up torrents and use them to our more inexperienced users in this area. This guide would be detailed containing pictures and easy steps to follow.
If anyone else thinks that an official thread containing all the willing developers ROM's in torrent for is a good idea to have, which I would update daily, please give me your opinion.
Thanks,
CUBUS
My question might be a bit biased since my experience is limited to Sony forums, but nonetheless I was quite surprised to see many APKs, scripts, and ROMs hosted on some weird sites that make you wait for up to a minute, limit the number of attempts to download the file, have unblockable pop-ups, and try to upsell you their premium subscriptions that would have none of that. There are plenty of free, reliable ways to host software projects: e.g., BitBucket, GitHub, and Google Code - and all of them have quite simple functions to host downloadable packages.
Is it because devs get some commissions if anyone signs up for the premium download service? Or because they don't know how to use the other features of code and repository hosting websites? Or because they don't want to expose their source code? Or is it something else?
I always use Google Drive or Dev-Host because those sites provide me total control over the files I upload
other are websites that pay them per visitor
Revontheus said:
I always use Google Drive or Dev-Host because those sites provide me total control over the files I upload
other are websites that pay them per visitor
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Dev-Host is actually my #1 most hated site. They have 3 download buttons, of which 2 are trying to get you install some serious spyware.
Ahh that explains some comments I see saying "Mobo Genie" no way and the like
I never noticed that wow
But I am using adblocker
Mediafire, Google are positive
Mega.co.nz, devhost are slow
depositfiles, uploaded are negative
You might make a list off all downloadsites that dwell in and around xda