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Hello, I live in Spain, and here still have not the Evo 3D and it's not clear if it will arrive in this month (as HTC Facebook Spain said) or it will be delayed until September as in U.K. is said.
Well the question is:
Buy right here inmediatelly a cheaper Optimus 3D or wait for very expansive Evo 3D ?
So... Is there anyone that really had test both of them ?
I have all technical information, and I've seen the Dogfight comparison video but these really doesn't help my in my decission.
I am very interested in game compatibility, the GPS behaviour, battery duration and internet browsing experience.
All information about these things will be really appreciated Thanks in advance for your help.
so what i heard is, that the 3D thing is better on the LG phone, but i only can say, that the 3D effect on the LG is very cool.
i know: the EVO 3D can't make 2D videos in FullHD. The LG can.
The Evo has more RAM, but until now i cant notice that 512MB aren't enough.
I would recommend the LG phone. I am very happy with it.
Thanks a lot; really here in Spain people with O3D are very happy, and I have seen the 3D effect yesterday in the Optimus and I really liked it too, problem is... to compare it with the Evo
aliza said:
Thanks a lot; really here in Spain people with O3D are very happy, and I have seen the 3D effect yesterday in the Optimus and I really liked it too, problem is... to compare it with the Evo
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Then watch this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1ssOMl7PWc - part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1G6oemo900A&feature=relmfu - part 2
All I can tell is that LG Optimus 3D is fantastic,great quality,beautifull screen,very fast and 3D looks amazing I think you should go with LG O3D
Masinac said:
Then watch this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1ssOMl7PWc - part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1G6oemo900A&feature=relmfu - part 2
All I can tell is that LG Optimus 3D is fantastic,great quality,beautifull screen,very fast and 3D looks amazing I think you should go with LG O3D
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Thanks a lot, but I had seen those videos before and really didn't answer my questions about compatibility and GPS
i dont think that there are huge differences in these points. so the hardware is almost equal. i use the optimus 3D for navigation. no problems with that.
internet browsing the same. after gingerbread update both standard browser will be the same. i use opera for browsing. its the best for me.
i am not a gamer so i cant tell you anything about that, but both Evo and LG are highend phones... so the differences in those things will be minimal.
that the evo cant record in fullHD was the main reason for me against the evo. ...and of course the price AND that the LG is available in europe
but of course... if you are nut sure.. just wait till you can test the evo by your self. have you looked into EVO 3D forum? perhaps there are more information about that.
aliza said:
Thanks a lot, but I had seen those videos before and really didn't answer my questions about compatibility and GPS
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Well I dont have Evo 3D but I had same dillema last week ,and I chosed O3D...
I do not know what you mean when you say compatibility, but I can tell you that GPS works great on O3D.. it find's signal very quickly even when I am in the house
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Well I dont have Evo 3D but I had same dillema last week ,and I chosed O3D...
I do not know what you mean when you say compatibility, but I can tell you that GPS works great on O3D.. it find's signal very quickly even when I am in the house
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With compatibility I mean about games that work or don't work in this terminal.
Thanks for the GPs info!
aliza said:
With compatibility I mean about games that work or don't work in this terminal.
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LG Optimus 3D can run NVIDA Tegra games..
Masinac said:
but I can tell you that GPS works great on O3D.. it find's signal very quickly even when I am in the house
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Yes I noticed that too, I've never had a phone (or any other GPS device) before that got a GPS lock in my house, these must have a very sensitive receiver.
Pete
aliza said:
With compatibility I mean about games that work or don't work in this terminal.
Thanks for the GPs info!
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Everything works just fine ,apps and games are not the problem
thanks a lot everybody, and excuse me for my bad english, I think I'm gonna try to pickup the Optimus 3D this weekend.
Game compatibility is better on O3D, because it has older PowerVR SGX540, which is widely supported. evo3d has adreno220 which is new chip and thus can have compatibility problems.
evo3d has higher resolution which is not fully supported in some applications.
Many users are complaining of crooked display on evo3d.
O3D`s display has much better brightness and contrast.
GPS in evo3d is poor. You can find threads on web about its inaccuracy.
I have found evo3d to be quite buggy device which has only one advantage to O3D. more RAM.
The Optimus has one more proved advantage. It has native support for 3D MKV movies. No need to convert at all if you have a huge enough memory card.
As the others already mentioned the GPS is VERY GOOD. I get a fix in under 5 sec with iGo.
Really thanks a lot to everybody.
Now I am looking for the device, I hope I can get one tomorrow.
abo_mara7 said:
LG Optimus 3D can run NVIDA Tegra games..
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source/proof?
TheOnly1 said:
The Optimus has one more proved advantage. It has native support for 3D MKV movies. No need to convert at all if you have a huge enough memory card.
As the others already mentioned the GPS is VERY GOOD. I get a fix in under 5 sec with iGo.
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Cannot agree more with the speed for GPS. Coming from SGS where the GPS is simply useless as you'll need to give it 5 minutes to get it fixed for 5 sec.
Also the GPS that comes with O3D is as fast as my Garmin-Asus M10 which is interesting
This is assuming that devs even care about the Optimus (or Thrill as it will be called in my possession). I thought I would create a small list of ROMs that I would like to see. Take note that 3D isn't the primary goal of the phone, but if I have it I want to be able to use it! I will take 3D into account in the list.
1. Vanilla Froyo/Gingerbread that is hybrid of vanilla with the custom 3D menu and features.
2. Sense 3.0 (if not 3.0 at least the lockscreen) with either the LG custom 3D features or those pulled from the Evo 3D.
3. CyanogenMod 7.1 of course. I'm not sure about how 3D will fit in here.
4. Ice Cream Sandwich. I need!
cm7 with all 3d added ploz.
uhm... tge devs will do what they'll do.
for sense or vanilla you'll have to w8 a looooong time. hardly anybody whants sense ported because all the sensefeatures are also in the marked (all free and most of the time better) so pls stop writing wishlists or asking questions like "will there be a sense port?"
Mooks said:
uhm... tge devs will do what they'll do.
for sense or vanilla you'll have to w8 a looooong time. hardly anybody whants sense ported because all the sensefeatures are also in the marked (all free and most of the time better) so pls stop writing wishlists or asking questions like "will there be a sense port?"
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Agree. Sense port for lg just does not make sense. I would rather have other features added to custom roms or performance tweaks.
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Making a wish list isn't hurting anyone is it?
dunngh said:
Making a wish list isn't hurting anyone is it?
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jea but it's spamming and useless....
a wish list doesn't hurt actually. just a bit strange when asking for a port of the whole sense launcher instead of individual features to be implemented to optimus ui.
the new ui 2.0 on o3d is actually quite good.
For me, i would wish the following things to be added to the rom:
- more control or user defined actions that can be done via gesture ui
- more lock types instead of just the basic ones. I think both HTC and samsung ones are nice to have.
- a better handwriting ime. HTC ones really shines on this part. I have installed ports of htc ime (chinese) one on my O3D. I wish LG qould have their own. but i doubt it
- put back the FM. thou it is said that it'll be back in next rom. I still keep finger crossed.
- setting for choosing connection method when usb is connected. i like SGS's original setting menu where you can choose to connect as mass storage, klies, just charge phone or manual choose when usb attached. I really have to go through a bit of guessing before i can find out how to connect pc suite.
Guess will come up with more things to add later..
Is the 3D feature of the Evo for Portrait mode or more like the Optimus in the landscape mode. If the evo is in portrait the Sense won't even work in the Optimus 3D. Cooler would be if we start a project with some devs to build a real 3D launcher..... lets say i'm in ;-)
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Or is there a way to combine the power of two cameras to make one stunning 2d picture?
5MP+5MP = 10MP
WvanWaas said:
Is the 3D feature of the Evo for Portrait mode or more like the Optimus in the landscape mode. If the evo is in portrait the Sense won't even work in the Optimus 3D. Cooler would be if we start a project with some devs to build a real 3D launcher..... lets say i'm in ;-)
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As I understand it the EVO 3D doesn't have a 3D UI at all. Its one of the big things that made the LG seem more 3D oriented whereas the EVO more like throwing 3D on as an afterthought.
They both of course show 3D ONLY in landscape as there would be no point of having it only work in portrait (and it can only be one or the other) as you wouldn't be wanting to watch videos like that and you couldn't shoot videos or photos portrait, because the cameras are laid out in landscape.
Although personally, I couldn't care less about a 3D UI as it just slows down getting to the important stuff like launching games and movie.
coolfi said:
Or is there a way to combine the power of two cameras to make one stunning 2d picture?
5MP+5MP = 10MP
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It would have to take a decent picture at 5MP before that is even remotely plausible.
I don't know why we couldn't make it take 3D pictures at 10MP and then use it's converter to turn then into awesome 2D stills. Probably harder than I think.
coolfi said:
Or is there a way to combine the power of two cameras to make one stunning 2d picture?
5MP+5MP = 10MP
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How? The 2 camera's have different angles. I don't think it is possible.
However the omap 4430 is capable of making two 5MP videoshots. Don't no why
LG have restricted to 3 MP in 3D. Maybe someone can look into that.
well a 10mp foot is hard to program but possible. i've read about a special chip with is separated into 12 1mp chips. so its possible to merge but hard for a dev to program it alone...
the unlock of 5mp 3d videos should be possible.
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How? The 2 camera's have different angles. I don't think it is possible.
However the omap 4430 is capable of making two 5MP videoshots. Don't no why
LG have restricted to 3 MP in 3D. Maybe someone can look into that.
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Well the cameras are actually not have different angles. To put it simple, both are taking picture just like one is our left and one is right eyes. The result 3D photo is the overlapped area of these 2 photos with certain offset.
So in theory, you won't get a full "10mp" 2D photo, but rather may be a useful ~60mp photo for 2D. If dev can stitch the photos this way, may be can work on a panaroma mode for the cameras. This will need to wait for a while thou. Guess at this stage it is still too early for it
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How? The 2 camera's have different angles. I don't think it is possible.
However the omap 4430 is capable of making two 5MP videoshots. Don't no why
LG have restricted to 3 MP in 3D. Maybe someone can look into that.
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Imagine both cameras are pointing the same direction and taking same picture but with slight offset then joining both the picture to make one supper fine picture.
Normal photo would be either the camera A or camera B like so
example AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA or
BBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBB
But with both cameras working together it would be
ABABABABABABABABABABABABABABABABABABABABA
But that's just a theory it's up to devs, and this is a wish thread after all.
There is a lot of misuderstanding here it seems as to how the 3d system works. Overlapping two of the images does not result in one larger image the two image arent even close to the same and wont allow you to add more information to create a larger image.
the ababababababa description is exactly how the parallax barrier creates a 3d image for our eyes on screen so that doesnt help either.
coolfi said:
Imagine both cameras are pointing the same direction and taking same picture but with slight offset then joining both the picture to make one supper fine picture.
Normal photo would be either the camera A or camera B like so
example AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA or
BBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBB
But with both cameras working together it would be
ABABABABABABABABABABABABABABABABABABABABA
But that's just a theory it's up to devs, and this is a wish thread after all.
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They are both 5 MP. So they will take the same matter of detail. Why do you think
2*5MP will have better quality/detail?
Just like saying combining 4 dvd's will have the same result as 1 bluray
Just like the saying two eyes are better than one, surely two lenses would be capturing more detail than one even if they are both 5MP. Then there is matter of two lenses that are not capturing the same pixels.
Hey Guys, CM7 Alpha ist ready to downlod
nice, very nice!!!
but one Question:
do the 3D game/apps working?
Very nice! good news to start this week!
only 3 issues?? no other issues?? battery & performance same?
thats amazing start!!!! if this is the start then i think itll take very less time to get a very stable build!
Running awesome on my Thrill! Thanx dev
So. Awesome.
Can't wait to check this out, it would be on my phone right now if the 3d camera worked (I like taking 3d pictures too much, LOL).
Soon as thats working its on. I'm so bored of the stock ROM, this is just in time! Pretty soon lg can keep its boring gingerbread update for all I care arcee!
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hey can someone tell me how is the performance compared to stock rom and how is the battery? i see that 3d photos are not working what about 3d games and videos?
Hmm the Performance feels like waterbear ROM. Quatrant score (2300) are the same on my device.
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What is the speed in normal use, games?? Better than stock??
First time i open menu or an app, is 1-4 sec. a little bit laggy but than its faster than stock.
My max quatrant score ist 2600
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First feedback
Hi all,
This is my feedback after 3 hours test:
Globaly :
This rom is very fast, just change the default launcher by launcher pro or Go launcher. Everything work for daily usage.
3D:
You will have, after the installation 2 camera software (gingerbread stock) with exactly same name?. One is for video and other is for photo. camera quality is very poor, video and photo appear with green mask..
3D recording, photo and video, don't work for me.
No 3D games
No 3D gallery and other 3D LG stuff
you can play previously 3D video recorded with O3D with good quality but no 3D movies appear sidebyside and no way to change 3D format.
3D photo appear sidebyside.
Bluetooth :
A2DP don't work fine with my car, I can pair devise and play music but DSP application will crash and music stop playing sometime (and replay by self)
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What the ****??
Moderators, please delete this thread. I'll open a proper one as soon as this goes away, it's a no-attribution copy of a post I made elsewhere.
pls delete this thread so arcee can create one and then i can ask a question
Ive doesnt use my O3D since 1 month, cause i only waited for custom Roms. Just got tired of stock Rom. I cant wait to come Home and test it. ;-)
Sorry for my bad english...
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Hi folks. I have p970 and want to buy 3D max but I have few confusions :
1. Does 3D really works or its just a huss-fuss gimmik?
2. To tell truth I never felt 3D on my laptop using 3D googles and 3D movie except 4-5 seconds.
3. Same at cinema hall, I hardly notice any 3D except few scenes, rest all are departed cyan-red overlapping pictures giving terrible headache and cant enjoy at all.
4. I thought may be just I dont feel 3D but its not like, I saw a 3D show on local museum and I really felt the 3D effect n looked good too., so problem is not in me I guess.
Rest you suggestions.
pkb_always4u said:
Hi folks. I have p970 and want to buy 3D max but I have few confusions :
1. Does 3D really works or its just a huss-fuss gimmik?
2. To tell truth I never felt 3D on my laptop using 3D googles and 3D movie except 4-5 seconds.
3. Same at cinema hall, I hardly notice any 3D except few scenes, rest all are departed cyan-red overlapping pictures giving terrible headache and cant enjoy at all.
4. I thought may be just I dont feel 3D but its not like, I saw a 3D show on local museum and I really felt the 3D effect n looked good too., so problem is not in me I guess.
Rest you suggestions.
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Okay , I'll be as plain as possible.
3D is great but not on 3D Max nor any device really. 3D is still in it's infancy so there are problems none of which would bother you from the interface but a problem as in a general way.
Parallax Barrier on the screen will cut the pixels in the screen in half. So it looks bad. Imagine playing a game in 3D but with a 640x480 resolution on a PC. When you connect it to a 3D TV it's okay but with parallax it's not.
Lg is notorious for it's software upgrade schedule you probably won't be up to date with your android device without 3rd party roms.
This is a serious issue , it frustrated me a lot.
But in sum you will feel the 3D and it will give you headaches until you get used to it.
3D Camera and Video is really great , especially when you attach it to a TV.
3D Max has a high-end device price tag but if you think about it and research a little bit more , you'll see there are a lot of devices better than 3D max... Some of them even cost less.
3D max is just a little bit upgraded version of Optimus 3D nothing more.
I got a p920 , it's good , fast , efficient (with a good software i might add.) , So is the 3D Max.
Despite everything i just said , i would hang on to my P920 any day.
It's sturdy , really tough to break even the glass part.
I'm guessing 3D max is probably the same.
Hope i helped.
Cheers!
that's well said
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Want an advice ? Don't buy LG Anymore.
Thank yu all guys, but main is will I feel 3D or just cyen-red overlapping scenes? And custom ROMs e.g CM, AOKP will give me same 3D effect?
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Thank yu all guys, but main is will I feel 3D or just cyen-red overlapping scenes? And custom ROMs e.g CM, AOKP will give me same 3D effect?
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Yes u feel 3d but maybe no good enough see 3d in 4,3" even it's glass less 3d, but the best parts is u can make 3d video and playing game with 3d converter app. I really love my p920 while playing samurai vengeance in 3d mode
3d not work on CM for now
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Few more Questions
Did you get ICS update from LG? Or any chance of it?
How much rooting is safe ? One click root or some lengthy process?
No cusotm ROM got 3d working?
pkb_always4u said:
Did you get ICS update from LG? Or any chance of it?
How much rooting is safe ? One click root or some lengthy process?
No cusotm ROM got 3d working?
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3D MAX owners should answer this and so far for 3D MAX there is only 1 custom ROM based on factory Gingerbread.
So don't get confused with P920 because we have 27-30 different ROMS to choose starting from factory FROYO's ending to CM10 betas...
3D today is not based on visible light filters like it was in the 70s. You will not see colours blurring. However, on the phone itself you might see an overlap of the two images (left eye and right eye).
3D glasses for the cinema and TV filter polarised light. The images for each eye are polarised differently. This works very well
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Hi all,
I found this forum in my search for the most reliable GSM 3D smartphone (after I bought a CDMA HTC Evo 3D from eBay by mistake!!), but not sure which one is the best. I made a research on Optimus 3D Max but not sure it is P720, P725 or some other models that has the best 3D capabilities and best smartphone specs.
Any suggestions?
Also, are the MPO files in HTC Evo 3D viewable in LG's 3D smarthphones or do LG ones only view JPS files?
Live Evil said:
Hi all,
I found this forum in my search for the most reliable GSM 3D smartphone (after I bought a CDMA HTC Evo 3D from eBay by mistake!!), but not sure which one is the best. I made a research on Optimus 3D Max but not sure it is P720, P725 or some other models that has the best 3D capabilities and best smartphone specs.
Any suggestions?
Also, are the MPO files in HTC Evo 3D viewable in LG's 3D smarthphones or do LG ones only view JPS files?
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3d or 3d Max are both fine. Max is obviously an upgrade but the cameras are not. Also the 3d on the Optimus is better than on the Evo.
Live Evil said:
Hi all,
I found this forum in my search for the most reliable GSM 3D smartphone (after I bought a CDMA HTC Evo 3D from eBay by mistake!!), but not sure which one is the best. I made a research on Optimus 3D Max but not sure it is P720, P725 or some other models that has the best 3D capabilities and best smartphone specs.
Any suggestions?
Also, are the MPO files in HTC Evo 3D viewable in LG's 3D smarthphones or do LG ones only view JPS files?
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Optimus 3D & 3D Max ofcourse will open MPO images. You can install 3Dsteroid and Tobidale3D for editing stereo images
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=jp.suto.stereoroidpro
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=jp.co.nap.sbys
Thank you for the reply, bether and sbrownla.
So the 3D Max can view both JPS and MPO files?
Anyway in HTC Evo 3D, the 3D images are editable (built-in inside the phone), are you saying that the LG version cannot edit the 3D images if I don't download and install the software you suggested (3Dsteroid and Tobidale3D)?
In O3D & Omax3D images *.jps can be edit by stock 3D editor of SU870 ICS http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=33710343&postcount=7
But SU870 is Optimus 3D Cube instead of the model that I am looking for.
PhotoEditor3D works on all Optimus 3D with ICS.
Are they upgradeable to KitKat?
No no real3d sdk included
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Deciding the exact Optimus 3D Max to buy
Browsing eBay, which one is Optimus 3D Max P725, btw?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/ECOMOBILE-K...6GB-3D-Max-SU870-UnlockedWhiteA-/131235717516 or http://www.ebay.com/itm/LG-Optimus-...D-Camera-Android-Phone-By-Fedex-/320955644942?
I want to buy a GSM one, with NFC enabled and has 2D to 3D Game Converter. Thank you in advance.
Anyway confused now, which model has NFC?
Live Evil said:
Anyway confused now, which model has NFC?
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I don't know the others, but i have an LG Optimus 3D Cube. It has 16GB storage (it's 8GB on LG's other 3D models) and NFC. But you should know that these phones are a little old and have low performance if you compare with recent phones.
Is yours a CDMA version, or does it have SIMcard slot?
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I don't know the others, but i have an LG Optimus 3D Cube. It has 16GB storage (it's 8GB on LG's other 3D models) and NFC. But you should know that these phones are a little old and have low performance if you compare with recent phones.
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Is yours a CDMA version, or does it have SIMcard slot?
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It'i gsm (with simcard slot)
Wow, really... I thought 3D Cube is CDMA only?
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It'i gsm (with simcard slot)
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So is it possible to have the 2D to 3D Converter in every Optimus 3D models?