Looks like the infuse (SGH-i997) may only be a US phone? Basic google searches didn't reveal anything obvious like I would expect, for example the i9000 (galaxy s).
I know a lot (not all of course...) of the great innovations in terms of lag fix, rom/kernel dev work came from people working on the international i9000. I wonder if this will limit the diversity in kernels, roms...
Mine is on the way anyway
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Looks like the infuse (SGH-i997) may only be a US phone? Basic google searches didn't reveal anything obvious like I would expect, for example the i9000 (galaxy s).
I know a lot (not all of course...) of the great innovations in terms of lag fix, rom/kernel dev work came from people working on the international i9000. I wonder if this will limit the diversity in kernels, roms...
Mine is on the way anyway
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well im not saying you can interchange with a galaxy s. that is not true. but many methods when applied to the infuse sources will have little difference from the galaxy s in implimentaion. so in a way this may develope faster than the sgs2 or the sgsplus or the sgs2mini which all have much more major changes.
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well im not saying you can interchange with a galaxy s. that is not true. but many methods when applied to the infuse sources will have little difference from the galaxy s in implimentaion. so in a way this may develope faster than the sgs2 or the sgsplus or the sgs2mini which all have much more major changes.
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I hope so too. Really sucks that they didn't release it w/ 2.3 out of the box. Samsung CAN do it, look at the nexus s. Hopefully only a minor setback and they'll release the update OTA... yeah right
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I hope so too. Really sucks that they didn't release it w/ 2.3 out of the box. Samsung CAN do it, look at the nexus s. Hopefully only a minor setback and they'll release the update OTA... yeah right
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well they need the sgs 2 to look that much better. they fear we are too stupid to know what a dual core chip is. they need this to look good for the money and the sgs2 to look better. samsung did get the first 2.3 update out and the first 2.3 phone out that was not a google dev phone so cut them some slack. they are working hard on there flagship models. this will come later. google says they will work with manufacturers to get all capable handsets updated to 2.3 or 3.1, probably to keep android from getting too fractured. they will put pressure on them for updates and the manufacturers will get less ambitious with changes.
samsung also announced the north american sgs line will get 2.3 but did not indicate a timeline. unfortunately this is not being called a sgs so that statement is not a garentee but i think att has more concerns about updating the infuse than the captivate so if samsung says the captivate gets an update i think att will push for the infuse to get an update beforehand.
I'm a huge aosp fan as I'm sure many of you are. I was wondering if CM9 is the in the pipeline for the Galaxy tab plus. I see both the 10.1 and 8.9 have unofficial roms, I realize the 7+ is built on a different platform but would any devs be willing to take on the task. How do we go about getting ourselves a maintainer?.
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Based on the following, I think there's a chance that we're going to get an official release from CM.
We’ve been hard at work on CM9 since Google released Android 4.0 (Ice Cream Sandwich) into the wild last month, and things are slowly starting to come together. Google did a great job with ICS and added some really awesome features which in some cases replace or deprecate functionality that we had in CM7, so we are reevaluating all of our customizations. A number of devices are already up and running with CM9, and the focus is currently on getting as many devices ready as we can. The first devices (besides the Nexus S, which you can already get from Koush’s section on ROM Manager) that we’ll have ready will mostly likely be devices based on OMAP4, MSM8660/7X30, and Exynos. We also have some Tegra2 tablets in the pipeline such as the Galaxy Tab 10.1 and Asus Transformer. Our goal is to provide continued support to all CM7 devices back to the QSD8250 series of devices such as the Nexus One. I don’t want to make any promises at this time, but that is the plan. And sorry Droid1 owners, we’re dropping support for you. Time to upgrade
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http://www.cyanogenmod.com/blog/cm9-progress-update
Let's keep our hopes up!
Well that's excellent. Thanks for sharing.
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I like my Note Pro 12.2 but it seems to me that Samsung has given up on this device? Any thoughts?
What makes you believe that?
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No updates or anything new about this device. Just my perception...real or otherwise.
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What makes you believe that?
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First off it has always been my experience that samsung tablets get fewer updates than their phones do, and that it's worse with US carrier variants of a Samsung tablet.
With Google updating their core applications via play store updates these days the frequency of device updates doesn't concern me much. This tablet is stable and quick so I'm satisfied with what I have for now. I'm looking forward to an update to touchwiz but that won't likely happen until well after Android L comes out.
I don't know if this is obvious to everyone but many manufacturers tie significant software updates to product releases to give the new products some thunder. I wouldn't expect an update to the rest of the Note line until the Note 4 is out on the street. The same thing happened to the Note 10.1 2014 which saw a stall in updates while this tablet was being released and got its KitKat update after the Note Pro hit the streets.
This thing already ships with 4.4.2. There is no newer Android version. And there is no point in an update if there is nothing to add and nothing severe to fix. It's that simple.
4.4.3 won't come out until the Note 4 ships with it. After that, it's the S5 first, then the Note 3 and S4, and then the rest. And unless 4.4.3 adds something special for tablets, don't expect it to be rolled out to any tablet immediately.
Samsung's 4.4.2 is a pretty mature build, no big updates are needed. We probably won't see an update till Android L (5.0?) rolls out. And yes all Exynos 5420 devices will get upgraded. My suggestion is to stop worrying about updates and just enjoy your device.
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And yes all Exynos 5420 devices will get upgraded.
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I'd never use the words all or definitely in anything having to do with Samsung. The N10.1-14, Pro's, and S's are all using near identical h/w yet all are running different versions of TW with different feature sets and varying versions of Samsung's s/w (EG: My Files, S Note, etc.) Lately, updates seem to be focused on the OS rather than bringing newer or more current functionality to older devices. The Note II didn't get any of the Note 3's enhancements, the N10.1 any of the N10.1-14's, and the N3 didn't get any of the SGS5's; even though they are all running 4.4.2. Hell, Samsung's rolling the updates they do provide out at a snail's pace with the N10.1 and N10.1-14's 4.4.2 update still missing from many markets even though the initial release was months ago.
The N12 was most likely always intended to be a niche device. All the market analysis says 8-9" tablets are now the sweet spot going forward with sales slowing down considerably across all sized tablets based on phablets being bought (especially in Asia) as alternatives. Samsung's tablet strategy over the past year has been bizarre. The N10.1-14 was announced and shipped in November of last year without nary a leak of its impending arrival. Then the Pro's were announced with much fanfare and the less than four month old N10.1-14 never mentioned again by Samsung. Then four months after that the S' orphaned the Pro's.
So it doesn't seem Samsung's tablet sales strategy is that solid and now between Wi-Fi, 3G, and LTE versions of multiple 8ish", 10.1" and 12.2" tablets all running different versions of s/w they've created a quagmire when it comes to updates; especially considering each of those tablets is also running different s/w across God knows how many regions each.
It would certainly make sense based on its selling price that the N12 would be a front runner for updates but its sales volume is well below other newish Samsung tablets. Samsung's logic appears random (did anyone expect the over two-year old N10.1 to receive 4.4.2?) hence avoiding terms like all and definitely.
Thank goodness the software and hardware these days is better than the first couple of generations of tablets.
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It would certainly make sense based on its selling price that the N12 would be a front runner for updates but its sales volume is well below other newish Samsung tablets. Samsung's logic appears random (did anyone expect the over two-year old N10.1 to receive 4.4.2?) hence avoiding terms like all and definitely.
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And nordic one, N8000, is still missing that update - it is still running 4.1.2 - althought 4.4.2 came already on may in Germany.
There is no logic with Samsung. And im not going to follow that illogical train anymore...
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BarryH_GEG said:
I'd never use the words all or definitely in anything having to do with Samsung. The N10.1-14, Pro's, and S's are all using near identical h/w yet all are running different versions of TW with different feature sets and varying versions of Samsung's s/w
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Google has already released Linux 3.10 kernel config files for Exynos and Qualcomm SOCs. Work has already started to bring Android L to our devices.
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/google-experimental-3-10-defconfigs-msm-exynos-tegra/
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Google has already released Linux 3.10 kernel config files for Exynos and Qualcomm SOCs. Work has already started to bring Android L to our devices.
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Google releasing s/w Samsung could use in their development has nothing to do with the update schedule for existing devices. Exynos 5433 is already out. It's more likely to appear with Android L first and in a new device. The results of Samsung's access to new Android code and the timing of existing devices receiving it via an update has always been piss poor. What's changed?
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Google releasing s/w Samsung could use in their development has nothing to do with the update schedule for existing devices. Exynos 5433 is already out. It's more likely to appear with Android L first and in a new device. The results of Samsung's access to new Android code and the timing of existing devices receiving it via an update has always been piss poor. What's changed?
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This is why I have never believed the rumors of the Nexus line being discontinued. I can't imagine android development continuing without a vanilla device build out in the wild unencumbered by all of the bull$h!t antics of not wanting the updates of software on one device to affect the initial sales of a new one. At least that's the impression samsung puts off; for all I know there's only a couple of developers on staff and they aren't allowed to develop for anything BUT the next device.
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At least that's the impression samsung puts off
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I agree. Add to the business practice of forcing people to buy new devices to get the latest OS and/or Samsung features that they couldn't have possibly created a more complex s/w eco-system for they themselves to maintain. They release a slew of devices back-to-back in hopes that some "hit" and sell in droves. In the wake of that strategy are hundreds of devices, in Wi-Fi, 3G, and LTE, each with regionalized s/w.
Using the 12.2" tablets, with and without S Pen, as an example, there are probably hundreds of s/w versions to support. So business practices aside rolling out a world-wide update to a single tablet line becomes a nightmarish process. They did it to themselves and it's going to bite them in the ass some day. As an example, I'd normally be first-in-line for the Note 4. As it stands, my N3 and N10.1-14 have pretty common s/w between them which makes bouncing and sharing between them pretty easy. I'm not getting a Note 4 because the odds of my N10.1-14 every being common with it s/w wise is a million to one. And performance wise there's nothing wrong with either of them. Maybe if there's a N10.1-15 that's common with the Note 4 I'll get both but unlike in the past where there were huge gains to be had in moving to Samsung's "next big thing" there really aren't anymore. And with the high-end in tablets and smartphones maturing people thinking like I do will kill Samsung's earnings. Love the products; particularly the Note-series. Becoming less and less a fan of the company every day.
Say it ain't so Barry . . . I'm waiting on the Note 4 to switch to from my Nexus 4. You really think I may have issues between the two (Note 4 and my Note Pro?). Truth be told other than having synced dropsync folders for Lecturenotes I'm not entering into the Note 4 with the expectation of sharing things between the two devices. BTW I have no intention of ever getting rid of the nexus 4 at this time LOL. I'll switch between the two phones.
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Google releasing s/w Samsung could use in their development has nothing to do with the update schedule for existing devices. Exynos 5433 is already out. It's more likely to appear with Android L first and in a new device. The results of Samsung's access to new Android code and the timing of existing devices receiving it via an update has always been piss poor. What's changed?
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Well I remain hopeful that the update will occur. However, I don't understand the need to be on the very bleeding edge of Android versions. With my experience with my Nexus 7, Nexus 10 and Nexus 5, they usually introduce more bugs than they fix.
As long as Samsung fixes any current bugs in 4.4.2, my device can keep chugging along with this version. Going to 5.0 might open up a can of worms that may make the device much less stable and a pain to use.
http://www.techradar.com/news/phone...l-5-0-release-date-when-can-i-get-it--1257804
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Say it ain't so Barry . . . I'm waiting on the Note 4 to switch to from my Nexus 4. You really think I may have issues between the two (Note 4 and my Note Pro?). Truth be told other than having synced dropsync folders for Lecturenotes I'm not entering into the Note 4 with the expectation of sharing things between the two devices. BTW I have no intention of ever getting rid of the nexus 4 at this time LOL. I'll switch between the two phones.
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Everything will probably still be compatible but newer versions (EG: S Note, My Files, TW) will have different interfaces, menus, and controls. I don't want (personally) to have to jump between different products that more than likely do the same thing. My N3 and N10.1-14 still have menu capacitive buttons which I'm use to. Having one device with a task capacitive button and the other a menu button would drive me crazy. I'm a productivity user and having to think about doing the same thing differently across my devices would drive me nuts. So I'll upgrade in pairs or not at all. Think about the N10.1-14, Pro's, and S'. With the exception of M-UX being omitted from the N10.1-14, they all are functionally equivalent. Yet all are running different versions of TW with different (by age) versions of stock s/w. What bothers me may not bother others but intentionally leaving older (but still current) devices behind feature wise doesn't strike me as a way of retaining customers. How many people will ditch a $600ish tablet and buy a new one just to get a newer version of s/w? Especially when 95% of what both do is common? Samsung's logic baffles me some times.
Anyone figured out rooting
anyone figured out rooting i got this device 1 week ago cause i liked my note 3 allot but can i use the same method to root it like my note 3 i used towelroot for my note will this also work on my pro 12.2:good:
Is it dead? far from it. If anything, the recent and continued price drops are building the market share for this device. I ddon't think it has even begun to come close to what it's eventual user installed base is going to be. Dont let the lack of Samsung updates worry you
Not a chance
This thing is way too powerful and just plain awesome to be dead. The bloat ware is a resource hog but fix that and you have one of the best devices I have been lucky enough to call myself an owner of.
There are always updates that we want but what issues are you facing specifically that have you waiting for an update. Just curious because mine has really been impressive from day one, and i have owned all 3 note phones and now the Pro so I wasn't expecting to be too impressed.
Hi everyone!
I think we are all excited to try the latest iteration of Samsung's flagship device, but as a custom ROM fan/user/addict, i have some serious concerns and doubts about the availability of drivers for Exynos chipsets, since Samsung never provided these before for its older Exynos phones. So, basically, for anyone who knows about what i'm talking here - if you wanted the best Galaxy S variant for custom ROMs, you just had to get a Snapdragon version and stay away from the Exynos one, since Snapdragon provides all the necessary drivers to make the resulting custom ROMs more efficient and fully customizable. Exynos is severely limited due to lack of official drivers for the chipset, so for older Galaxy flagship models, like the S3 and S4, developers had to painstakingly code a lot more to make their custom ROMs work smoothly and even then the additional coding introduced a lot of bugs which took longer to squash before a final stable release of the custom ROM was finally available. So... my questions is, has there been any effort by Samsung lately or any indications at all that we would be getting the complete package of kernel + source for the entire S6 hardware? If not, then we should probably skip the S6 for now. I think M9 is going to be a clear winner in the custom modding category with its Snapdragon chipset and ever since the M7, the modding community (including myself) have fallen in love with the HTC One. But i want to diversify and try the Samsung S6 for 2015, so here i am wondering if anyone can help to clarify these - no nonsense fanboism please!
Looks like CM team is working hard on making CM AOSP rom for our phone
Over the past few months, device maintainers new and old have been pushing hard to get support up to par for a wide range of devices. While some flagships (M9/S6/G4, etc) still need more time in the proverbial oven, we’ve seen a large increase in the medium range devices.
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http://www.cyanogenmod.org/blog/expanding-the-cm-device-family
I would interpret that post almost exactly opposite how you did.
The S5 didn't get official nightlies until April this year. Don't expect to see it for the S6 so soon.
I would only get excited when I see zeroflte commits merged in to CM. Maybe next year
It won't happen. If it does it will be far from stable.
Still no CM for note 4 exynos