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I want to do everything I can to develop for this phone. What I need from the people here is a stock flash able rom. I have made great progress on this phone but but idk how to build stock roms and at this point I'm not sure I have the mental capacity to learn it.
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So...you have made great progress doing what?
There is a Chinese ROM floating around, maybe you can use that.

I want to do everything I can to develop for this phone. What I need from the people here is a stock flash able rom. I have made great progress on this phone but but idk how to build stock roms and at this point I'm not sure I have the mental capacity to learn it.
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LOL...
Without a stock ROM, we have been unable to develop much...
What have you developed, here?
Mostly the community is hacking the stock installed rom, and fixing what Motorola has purposefully broken, but with out a few more pieces and a working sbf, you are not going to get a "Stock" ROM.
If you really want to help out go jump into the bootloader unlock forum:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1328714

jimbridgman said:
LOL...
Without a stock ROM, we have been unable to develop much...
What have you developed, here?
Mostly the community is hacking the stock installed rom, and fixing what Motorola has purposefully broken, but with out a few more pieces and a working sbf, you are not going to get a "Stock" ROM.
If you really want to help out go jump into the bootloader unlock forum:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1328714
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I use cheesecake 4 times a day every day. If I find something I compare it to what others have found.. What have I developed? Nothing more then a headache. Using the bionic safestrap I have been able to recover from 3 soft bricks. 2 of them using adb to push to the phone and 1 using the restore tool. But i had to remount /emmc to /sd-ext. But I think at this point I am done trying anything with this phone.
One more thing.. what can't we use all the stock files I've pulled from the phone to make a flash able zip?

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I use cheesecake 4 times a day every day. If I find something I compare it to what others have found.. What have I developed? Nothing more then a headache. Using the bionic safestrap I have been able to recover from 3 soft bricks. 2 of them using adb to push to the phone and 1 using the restore tool. But i had to remount /emmc to /sd-ext. But I think at this point I am done trying anything with this phone.
One more thing.. what can't we use all the stock files I've pulled from the phone to make a flash able zip?
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Seems like you know a lot more than all of us who have been working diligently for the last 60 or so days with this phone.... Why don't you give it a try and see if you can create a flash-able zip.
You can't build a flash-able zip, because you can not zip or tar files on the filesystem that are in use, and the kernel has a ton of files open and locked. the backup software gets around this in a couple ways that we really can't do, and backups are useless to make flash-able zip from. That is why we need the sbf or fxz or source code to make a flash-able, zip or ROM.
That is why we have warned everyone over and over and over, about trying things we post, right now. The information is not to try out, it is sharing of the developers, and for those of us working on actually developing solutions for this phone. There have been so many bricks, because people are not listening.... I am actually thinking of trading my phone with a buddy to get out of this, because I am tired of hearing about all the bricking people are doing, and having to help save someone who did something to their phone that they did after we told them not to.
Unless You Know What You Are Doing Don't Try This At Home. Until we get the fxz or sbf files. I am getting tired of saying this...
P.S. doing work on the cheesecake thing does not make you a Developer. Hell I am not an Android Developer, I am a UNIX and Linux Hardware architect and UNIX and LINUX Kernel Developer, so I am am able to use all that, 20 years of experience on the Android kernel, and I have been hacking and working on phones a long time.
Now I know it is great to try things and learn, but while learning, it is best to try things we say are safe first, then once you are more comfortable with certain things, then try something daring, that you know how to do.
I am in no way trying to insult you, just realize that right now, with the little help we have on the experienced development side of things, it is real painful to get things moving forward when people don't listen, or do things they are not ready for and then keep asking for help when they killed their phone in the process.

jimbridgman said:
I am actually thinking of trading my phone with a buddy to get out of this, because I am tired of hearing about all the bricking people are doing, and having to help save someone who did something to their phone that they did after we told them not to.
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Please don't leave us Jim. You are an incredible resource. I'm new to Android and have learned many valuable things from you.
Remember, you don't have to help every person that bricks their phone.

Jim if you try to leave we will find you! ;p
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mtnlion said:
Jim if you try to leave we will find you! ;p
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LOL... I am not going anywhere, I am just trying to make a point, that things like this killed the Atrix board, and I hope we don't repeat that.
We are here to help, and I wish that it would be realized that we are in "Research" mode right now, and are not to point of actually hacking, or have very many how to post yet for that reason.

You can't buy common sense but stupidity is free.
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jimbridgman said:
LOL... I am not going anywhere, I am just trying to make a point, that things like this killed the Atrix board, and I hope we don't repeat that.
We are here to help, and I wish that it would be realized that we are in "Research" mode right now, and are not to point of actually hacking, or have very many how to post yet for that reason.
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WHEW.....You had me fixing to start looking at phone options!!! Honestly I'm to the point where I just read them and ignore them otherwise I say things I shouldn't LoL. But I will be the first to say this, IF THIS BOARD GETS AS BAD AS THE OG ATRIX DID, I WON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WALKING AWAY!
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You can't buy common sense but stupidity is free.
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You can't fix stupid either......

JRW 28 said:
WHEW.....You had me fixing to start looking at phone options!!! Honestly I'm to the point where I just read them and ignore them otherwise I say things I shouldn't LoL. But I will be the first to say this, IF THIS BOARD GETS AS BAD AS THE OG ATRIX DID, I WON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WALKING AWAY!
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Part of the issue I think is that everyone, who is doing these things, is of the I need this now, no matter what, camp... I just came a phone that had this, so this phone should too... LOL.
Yeah if it comes to anywhere close to the OG Atrix board I am out so fast it is not funny.
The thing is that I am most of the time ignoring these posts, but when you 6 people all did something similar, or like the OP did 4 or five things that messed his phone up, because he/they were impatient, you kind of have to tell them, look if you don't like it, get another phone. Heck the OP tried to say he was helping the cause by doing these things, when it was said so many times don't try this....

jimbridgman said:
Part of the issue I think is that everyone, who is doing these things, is of the I need this now, no matter what, camp... I just came a phone that had this, so this phone should too... LOL.
Yeah if it comes to anywhere close to the OG Atrix board I am out so fast it is not funny.
The thing is that I am most of the time ignoring these posts, but when you 6 people all did something similar, or like the OP did 4 or five things that messed his phone up, because he/they were impatient, you kind of have to tell them, look if you don't like it, get another phone. Heck the OP tried to say he was helping the cause by doing these things, when it was said so many times don't try this....
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The funny thing is the "OP" didn't do anything he was told not to due.. Instead he/I tried new approaches and have actually been able to recover from a few soft bricks at this point. We get places from trying new things not by talking down to those that try them. I'm trying to help as I own the phone too. I am not in any way "under-educated". I am a .Net developer and I am doing my best in my free time to help the community by opening up this phone to its full potential. Now, Am I impatient.... Hell Yes.. I want CM7 and ICS now. Will I get it now?.. No, but i'm trying to get the rest of you on your way. I cant believe you would try to push someone so willing away..

A better way to go about it would be to post your discoveries and share them to help others out instead of demanding things you need.
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What I need from the people here is a stock flash able rom.
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We aren't pushing anyone away that is willing to help and we welcome everyone that is willing to hel. But when you experiment know that we might not be able to help you and we have no way back to stock. By experimenting we found root,the bionic's bootstrap and we will have to continue to experiment. Part of progress is by finding out what works and what doesn't.
We need to all work together and not against each other. But with that said if you look at the amount of recent posts with people experiencing problems and calling for help is because they didn't do any research before hand and now they are asking for help for something they could have very well prevented by patiently doing a little homework.
With the progress you have said to have made, start a new thread about it explaining the procedures you went about to recover from the soft bricks so others can benefit from them as well. I can promise you we are all very interested.

JRW 28 said:
A better way to go about it would be to post your discoveries and share them to help others out instead of demanding things you need.
We aren't pushing anyone away that is willing to help and we welcome everyone that is willing to hel. But when you experiment know that we might not be able to help you and we have no way back to stock. By experimenting we found root,the bionic's bootstrap and we will have to continue to experiment. Part of progress is by finding out what works and what doesn't.
We need to all work together and not against each other. But with that said if you look at the amount of recent posts with people experiencing problems and calling for help is because they didn't do any research before hand and now they are asking for help for something they could have very well prevented by patiently doing a little homework.
With the progress you have said to have made, start a new thread about it explaining the procedures you went about to recover from the soft bricks so others can benefit from them as well. I can promise you we are all very interested.
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Thanks, and Very well said, I agree 100%

Cyanogen Mod Kernel Port Project

As of right now, I am modifying and reviewing the code in the KVM folders in both sources. I just need to know as to who is doing what. It would be a LOT easier for anyone who is trying to port the CM GB Kernel to our phone. So far it is taking me all night long just to do ONE file. If I can get help with this. It will mean that we will get CM7 running on our phone soon.

i pm'ed you the link to krylon's source. Have a look at that.

Could we not port it from the Vibrant as described here?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1099454

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As of right now, I am modifying and reviewing the code in the KVM folders in both sources.
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KVM folders?
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I just need to know as to who is doing what.
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AFAIK, Krylon360 isn't working on cm7 for sgs4g anymore.
I have the kernel almost working and should have something very soon.
RaverX3X has worked on the rom, and we are still testing and debugging a bootloop issue.
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It would be a LOT easier for anyone who is trying to port the CM GB Kernel to our phone. So far it is taking me all night long just to do ONE file. If I can get help with this. It will mean that we will get CM7 running on our phone soon.
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I know you guys are really-super excited for cm7. The most you can do to help is wait and be patient! Trust me... soon.

bhundven said:
KVM folders?
AFAIK, Krylon360 isn't working on cm7 for sgs4g anymore.
I have the kernel almost working and should have something very soon.
RaverX3X has worked on the rom, and we are still testing and debugging a bootloop issue.
I know you guys are really-super excited for cm7. The most you can do to help is wait and be patient! Trust me... soon.
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You have got me past excited now lol im waiting patientlly as possible best of luck to ya... End transmission lol
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bhundven said:
KVM folders?
AFAIK, Krylon360 isn't working on cm7 for sgs4g anymore.
I have the kernel almost working and should have something very soon.
RaverX3X has worked on the rom, and we are still testing and debugging a bootloop issue.
I know you guys are really-super excited for cm7. The most you can do to help is wait and be patient! Trust me... soon.
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I knew someone was already working on it. I just wanted to help out a little. Yes, the KVM folders inside the vir. (I think?)

pwner5889 said:
I knew someone was already working on it. I just wanted to help out a little. Yes, the KVM folders inside the vir. (I think?)
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Sorry dude, I still have no clue what you are talking about.
Maybe provide full paths to what you're talking about?
If you searched around, or read under "Plans" in the OP of my kernel thread (serious everyone... it's been there for quite some time!) or search through Q&A or General, you will find me talking about the progress of where I'm at whenever someone brings up another cm7 or kernel thread.
I will also plan on updating the OP in that thread or at least point to a new thread... when something happens.
Something is being worked on, but unless you are experienced with android/kernel system development, sit back and relax. There are a few gb roms to play with, fb's debloat tool, if you hate wifi/4g reception or want bln/voodoo sound, go check out froyo roms (don't forget about bootloaders ).
Relax, if you want something good, you have to wait.

Replied to the wrong thread.

Nice i cant wait for cm7 port. Loved it with my g2 and cm6 with my old g1
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Bh is already really close.
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airfluip1 said:
Bh is already really close.
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please stop.
I know you are excited. You get me on chat and say hi, then log out. You ask me all the time for status... while I'm at work, doing work stuff. I can't touch this stuff while I'm at work, cause I don't get paid to do this, I get paid to do my work.
And no. I'm not "really close". There is plenty of stuff for me to figure out, and the ammount of time i'd spend telling you what is going on, I could be working on it.
I spend LESS THEN 20% of my time on this stuff, and nothing has changed from last night. There is nothing 'newer' then that.
Status: I'm not done. Nothing is ready yet. Check the forum for updates. I have no ETAs. Relax, go watch tv, hiking, learn to surf... do something. Gimme time. (btw, this is why I don't like adding people to my gtalk.)

Geez, sorry. Didn't have to flame me.
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OK, If we want CM7. can someone at least tell me where to start. If I look at Bhundven's source, what do I do. I have the resource to do so.

Dude just leave it be, no offence but its people like you that discourage people from deving. Best of luck bh
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airfluip1 said:
OK, If we want CM7. can someone at least tell me where to start. If I look at Bhundven's source, what do I do. I have the resource to do so.
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Go to google and learn how to edit and compile the Linux kernel. I don't know anything about editing kernels either and that's where I'd start. Before you ask why you need to learn about Linux you should know that Android is based on Linux.

lowsnamebrand said:
Dude just leave it be, no offence but your the type of person who discourages people from deving best of luck to bh
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Its comments like that ... that discourage people from helping. Whether you have a problem with air or not you should still keep your comments to yourself. I have not ever even seen you attempt to help someone with anything yet you believe you have the right to bash others for trying.
P.S. When you just say "no offense" and then say something offensive, it does not make it ok.

no offense...
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Its comments like that ... that discourage people from helping. Whether you have a problem with air or not you should still keep your comments to yourself. I have not ever even seen you attempt to help someone with anything yet you believe you have the right to bash others for trying.
P.S. When you just say "no offense" and then say something offensive, it does not make it ok.
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Jiggly... if I may,
While I agree on the double standard on 'no offense', the point being made is that there is a link at the bottom of my signature that says 'github'.
If you venture there, you find repositories. The ones with the readme files are the 'useful' files.
If you want me to spoon feed the young, I will need more arms.
I wish this community would embrace the saying 'RTM'. It's all there. Black and White (depending on your system settings ). There is more then one forum on xda, and other phone forums based on the galaxy s phone also provide tips on building cyanogen. And the commands are only slightly different.
At this point with my source, a build if it builds would not work at all. I'm experimenting around with a few local repo's that are not on github. And when that stuff works, I totally plan on putting up a [REF] thread here in general on building sgs4g cm7 from source.
I don't plan on doing this any sooner then it working, because you don't need to be bricking your phone... right!?!
If you are an android developer and know how to build cm7, you would have found the manifest and never looked back. forked repositories, sent me pull requests to merge your code into my tree... so we can work together.
On one hand, I don't want to baby sit 'wanna be' developers that have no clue what they are getting into, because I don't want to play Q&A with them. It eats up all my time on making this stuff work in the first place.
On the other hand, there are real developers out there who know what to do, but might need some help. I do not want to push these people away, because they will just go and all I have to do is merge.

I cannot agree with you more BH. I appreciate all the work that you do for our phones community and my post was not a comment towards you at all.
I cannot even imagine trying to develop and help people with their questions as much as possible along the way. I know that every minute you are answering questions that is one less minute you are using your "CM7 time" to develop.
My post was simply stating that if you do absolutely NOTHING for the community (lowsnamebrand)... don't bash others for trying. I know people that were asking noob questions 6 to 8 months ago that are developing roms for other devices.
I do apologize if I offended you as that was not my intention whatsoever. I just hate seeing people shoot others down and bash others for trying. Whether you love airfluip or hate him, you cannot deny that he does try to help as much as possible. He asks what he can do to help (which may annoy people but i feel he really wants to help), answers peoples questions, developed AOSP rom and deals with a lot of the same "hand holding" helping people to flash roms.
Again, I am sorry if I offended you but my comment was not in reference to you or your work at all. Thanks for all that you do BH.
and airfluip1

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I cannot agree with you more BH. I appreciate all the work that you do for our phones community and my post was not a comment towards you at all.
I cannot even imagine trying to develop and help people with their questions as much as possible along the way. I know that every minute you are answering questions that is one less minute you are using your "CM7 time" to develop.
My post was simply stating that if you do absolutely NOTHING for the community (lowsnamebrand)... don't bash others for trying. I know people that were asking noob questions 6 to 8 months ago that are developing roms for other devices.
I do apologize if I offended you as that was not my intention whatsoever. I just hate seeing people shoot others down and bash others for trying. Whether you love airfluip or hate him, you cannot deny that he does try to help as much as possible. He asks what he can do to help (which may annoy people but i feel he really wants to help), answers peoples questions, developed AOSP rom and deals with a lot of the same "hand holding" helping people to flash roms.
Again, I am sorry if I offended you but my comment was not in reference to you or your work at all. Thanks for all that you do BH.
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Haha, nah man. Airfluip1 is young and full of "go'get'em". I was like that once. A couple people gave me **** and I started reading everything I could get my hands on because I never wanted to be 'that guy'. He just needs the thwack over the head to go read more. (google, it works!)
Airfluip1 thinks that I am making daily progress on this. I'm not.
The only reason I said anything in the first place is because he keeps pumping up other user's saying "Oh, bh is gonna get cm7 out soon!" which really isn't being honest to other users. If I can get SKILLED help, then we can get cm7 out sooner. But I don't want to teach people stuff that they could find/learn on google. If you can't figure that out, don't ask to help me. It just annoys me.
My response to your post was supposed to have some <snarky> and <sarcasm> tags, I musta failed
I hope you laughed at the "if I may,"

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I'm attempting Devving :p

Well as of now I'm attempting to port this Rom from the Inspire. I know its fine because the Rom is apart of AOKP (Android Open KANG Project) So far...I'm yet to get it booting as this is my First Rom...Blue6IX has been really great to me with his amazing guides scattered in pretty much one Mother-of-All-Threads
So know promises but hope for an Booting Alpha soon. If you know anything that can assist me (guides, techniques etc) please PM me or post below. Btw I will be editing this thread for updates on my progress.

Awesome, we can always use another Dev.

that would be great, the screenshots of that ROM look really slick! if you can catch jkilo, he could probably help ya, and in general you'd probably get some pointers in the IRC. good luck, and have fun!

Maybe eventually you can get CM9 booting on our device.

Yes lol...have actually been trying to catch him on the irc servers...no luck

(PDF will open once link is clicked) A porting AOSP guide.
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lol where...?

@xmc wildchild...pm me when you get a chance. I can give u all tools needed to compile code. Build code. Etc etc. Let me know if you need any help.

We already have a 'getting started with doubleshot' guide/sticky thread. Would it be a really good idea to have one for devving for this device too?
We have really few devs around here and I know our devs went through a lot to get where they are right now, but the quickest way to share the basics on this would be to have a basic getting started with devving for the mt4gs guide.
It would reduce the number of PMs devs have to deal with too and give more time to work on their roms. It would also be a nice avenue to share ways to fix common bugs/problems with the device during the dev process, for those willing to share their knowlegde.
I know there's something like this somewhere on XDA, but I think with the number of devs we have around it would be a great idea to have a personalised one for this device.
I hope this isn't to much to ask for.
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cybot_x1024 said:
We already have a 'getting started with doubleshot' guide/sticky thread. Would it be a really good idea to have one for devving for this device too?
We have really few devs around here and I know our devs went through a lot to get where they are right now, but the quickest way to share the basics on this would be to have a basic getting started with devving for the mt4gs guide.
It would reduce the number of PMs devs have to deal with too and give more time to work on their roms. It would also be a nice avenue to share ways to fix common bugs/problems with the device during the dev process, for those willing to share their knowlegde.
I know there's something like this somewhere on XDA, but I think with the number of devs we have around it would be a great idea to have a personalised one for this device.
I hope this isn't to much to ask for.
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i would like this

A call to arms!

Ok, I mentioned in annother thread that I am willing to learn developing so our phone dosent die. I've rrun into a bit of a hiccup in that I'm compeletly new to programming and I've either gotten no response or a negative one when I went looking for pointers. Fear not I am still not giving up it is just going to take longer than expected. So in interest of keeping development moving forward I'm putting out a call to arms. Are there any other aspiring developers out there? If so post in this thread what you are good at and what you can do. Perhaps we can collaborate and push out a rom in the near future. Personally I am an expert at graphic manipulation and can handle all of the ui, still working on the coding part. For everyone else, post things you would like to see and perhaps one of us could pick it up and run with it. Let's work together and make this work better than they ever thought it could!
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Sigh..
We can't work together if you don't have experience with coding.
If you really want to get a spark, you need to get a promising build onto github. And, you will need experience and attention to detail. Nobody wants to help if you don't comment your code, keep good changelogs, and maintain a good readme.
So far, I don't see it out there.
Furthermore, I can't afford to spend hours working on something that won't pay my mortgage. Most of us can't.
If I hit the lottery, maybe I'm your guy. In the meantime, we can't work together without a leader.
And, let's hope the next developer isn't lacing every file with a bunch of jibber jabber about "don't kang my sh*t, bro." Because, a collaborative effort would require plenty of sharing.
Just my two cents.

I would love to see a new Sense rom. but this place seems dead. Coming from the G1 I was surprised to see barely any roms. Even though the G1 is a ancent phone, it had quite a bit of rom and there's more activity over there than there is activity over here.
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orange808 said:
Sigh..
We can't work together if you don't have experience with coding.
If you really want to get a spark, you need to get a promising build onto github. And, you will need experience and attention to detail. Nobody wants to help if you don't comment your code, keep good changelogs, and maintain a good readme.
So far, I don't see it out there.
Furthermore, I can't afford to spend hours working on something that won't pay my mortgage. Most of us can't.
If I hit the lottery, maybe I'm your guy. In the meantime, we can't work together without a leader.
And, let's hope the next developer isn't lacing every file with a bunch of jibber jabber about "don't kang my sh*t, bro." Because, a collaborative effort would require plenty of sharing.
Just my two cents.
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I appreciate your honesty. But you misunderstand my intentions. I am not looking for someone to hold my hand and walk me through how to do everything. I, at most, am looking for info on how to start. I know I need expirence in coding before I can push out a rom, and that it will take a while to get that. That's why I started this thread. So, instead of waiting for me to finish the learning process we can get any other aspiring developers together to start something new in the meantime. I know there are others out there and if we all start posting what we can do and what we would like to see then maybe something may come from it. Thank you for point me to github, I'm sure I can learn some more from there. I understand about responsibilities getting in the way of hobbies, I have kids and a mortgage too, I'm just looking to get all the new developers together so that we can share and work together. I have a friend that writes code for websites for a living and I'm trying to get him on board to take this up as a hobby. Here's hoping.
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There are only three devs left for the Sidekick.
HewettBR, me (JiN1337), and nxd (kernel developer)
Reactive was a guy who tried to get everyone banned for using open source work, and thus in turn got banned himself.
I would be welcomed to help teach you a bit. I wish I had a learning curve when I was just beginning how to cook ROMS.
1. Download a ROM, unzip it, browse around files, and open files. Play with things.
2. When in doubt, Google it. It's likely someone else had the same problem before you and is a basis on how I fix 80% of ROM problems.
3. Always, always make a NANDROID. A foolish mistake is to flash your own ROM and not have a backup to go to, and than you have to start all over.
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Thanks. I have a stack of books on android as tall as my hip lol. I feel like I'm in college all over again. Any help would be appreciated at this point. I'm on information overload.
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Next Steps to ICS ROMs

I want to start off with I am not a dev. I am merely a member of the community that wants to see progress forward toward more amazing ROMs for the Tbolt. The other thread about a new base got closed so I wanted to open this so that productive discussion could continue. I hope that the community can come together and continue to produce the quality ROMs that I've found here in the past. As I said, I'm not a dev but if there's a way for me to contribute please let me know.

Santos has put out many different great roms. Also heard ziggy has said that when the source is dropped he will make a new kernel. So that's good news. Not many devs are left as the phone is old and Santos is about the only one deving the new ics update. If the source drops might have to get another bolt to play with. I like what he did with the leaked update. Maybe once the source is released some of.the old.devs might wanna.tinker. and make a Rom for old time sakes.
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Thanks for starting a new thread, hopefully we can move forward with this. Here is a good place to start for the adventurous http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1801690, don't blame me if you brick your phone.

ViperZ28 said:
Thanks for starting a new thread, hopefully we can move forward with this. Here is a good place to start for the adventurous http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1801690, don't blame me if you brick your phone.
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From the files that I grabbed after doing the OTA I have a base OTA ROM working now, yeah me. I am going to debloat this thing now....I forgot what VZW's ICS looked like.
I am still having issues with it though, sometimes it just starts to lag a lot. As soon as I get passed the setup stuff I can check root and gets some logcat's to see what is going on.
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fyi, Santod's RC6 is pretty good, it is Desensed and it is really fast. So far so good, might stick with this while I play with creating my own.

ViperZ28 said:
From the files that I grabbed after doing the OTA I have a base OTA ROM working now, yeah me. I am going to debloat this thing now....I forgot what VZW's ICS looked like.
I am still having issues with it though, sometimes it just starts to lag a lot. As soon as I get passed the setup stuff I can check root and gets some logcat's to see what is going on.
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fyi, Santod's RC6 is pretty good, it is Desensed and it is really fast. So far so good, might stick with this while I play with creating my own.
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Good to hear on the base front and thanks for the recommendation on the RC6 definitely going to check it out

If anybody has questions about developing their own ROM based on the OTA, you can go ahead and ask me. My ROMs based off of the OTA are MacekMod Mecha Rebirth and Galaxy Clone (galaxy clone rebase is still in the works, dont think I have forgotten about ti )

jacobmacek said:
If anybody has questions about developing their own ROM based on the OTA, you can go ahead and ask me. My ROMs based off of the OTA are MacekMod Mecha Rebirth and Galaxy Clone (galaxy clone rebase is still in the works, dont think I have forgotten about ti )
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I had headed over to your thread to download a fresh ROM for my old Thunderbolt (I've moved on, but I like keeping it up to date), but the thread is closed and the links removed. I had meant to grab it a week ago, but kept forgetting, and now it seems some drama has caused it to be removed.
So now, I see in the development section that there's barely anything modern for ICS besides that stock one that Santos has. And I'm definitely not going to register at yet another forum to access a couple extra ROM's.
Moral of the story is... I am definitely looking forward to seeing more than one solid ICS ROM here for the Thunderbolt

Gamesoul Master said:
And I'm definitely not going to register at yet another forum to access a couple extra ROM's.
Moral of the story is... I am definitely looking forward to seeing more than one solid ICS ROM here for the Thunderbolt
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Well, those "couple" other roms I have, are actually 7 other roms aside from the 4 stock ones.
Of course nobody will force you to join the site or to use those roms.
It just seems to me anyway, that it may be a bit silly for someone who wants more ICS options, to not go where those options are, just because they don't want to join a FREE forum.
Anyhow, I wish you all the best on your hopes for more ICS roms for the Bolt coming here.

santod040 said:
Well, those "couple" other roms I have, are actually 7 other roms aside from the 4 stock ones.
Of course nobody will force you to join the site or to use those roms.
It just seems to me anyway, that it may be a bit silly for someone who wants more ICS options, to not go where those options are, just because they don't want to join a FREE forum.
Anyhow, I wish you all the best on your hopes for more ICS roms for the Bolt coming here.
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No need to get touchy, it's nothing against you... lol. The Thunderbolt is one of my old phones that I only use for media purposes, so it's not very high priority. If nothing happens here, I'm sure I'll eventually break down and head over there to grab one.
I'm just tired of registering at a bunch of different places just to grab a ROM, that's all. I pretty much stick to being registered here and at Rootzwiki these days, and I'll grab stuff from sites that don't require registration on rare occasion. Just a quirk of mine, that's all. No offense intended

Gamesoul Master said:
No need to get touchy, it's nothing against you... lol. The Thunderbolt is one of my old phones that I only use for media purposes, so it's not very high priority. If nothing happens here, I'm sure I'll eventually break down and head over there to grab one.
I'm just tired of registering at a bunch of different places just to grab a ROM, that's all. I pretty much stick to being registered here and at Rootzwiki these days, and I'll grab stuff from sites that don't require registration on rare occasion. Just a quirk of mine, that's all. No offense intended
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No worries, wasn't getting touchy at all.
No offense taken.
Just simply responding to a post I had read.
People express their opinions on things here all the time, as you did.
I was just doing the same.