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A suggestion.

Hello everyone. I want to thank you all for this site, I have learned a great deal here and appreciate all your efforts. I have a question that many new comers have asked and they have been told to go read, so thats what I will do. I want you to know tho that its very hard when you have a baby, and very little time. I also want you to know that the only times I am really productive getting somewhere with my phone is staying up till like 4 am because everyone is asleep and I have the time needed to dedicate to all this reading, trying and learning.
I am not complaining, in fact I am grateful because I am getting somewhere thanks to your help, which has been more valuable than all the help Samsung and Rogers have given me washing their hands clean and leaving me with a defective phone. My problem has not been solved just yet, but I think a 2.2.1 rom will fix my problem. Ill keep reading and trying, ill get there.
I suggest you guys have a wikipage with a table with all the roms, what versions of android they are, what kernels, modems, etc they work with ( or not work with ), bugs, features, something all in 1 page for easy access. This would make it easier for people to access information. The easier it is the more people will use them and come here, the more ideas you will have, the more testers, its a win win situation!
I have been to the pages for all the roms, some of them tell you the bluetooh voice dialing is not working, most don't, id have to go looking for my answer. I have learned that for instance it seems people do not have an issue with it with froyo 2.2.1 but again, some roms tell you in the main page its 2.2.1, others don't.
I can't grasp all the information staying up at night till 4 am. Its the only time I have. I almost had a heat attack when I thought I bricked my phone, I can't afford another one. If all the important information is right there on 1 page, like links to the usb drivers, tools, roms, kernels, everything. Have the instructions to flash. Have a table with all the roms, their versions, what versions of kernels, modems, etc, they do ( or dont ) work with. maybe even some of the table cells are clickable, for instance bugs, click on it and a window pops up with a list of them.
I know all this information is in here somewhere. Thanks to everyone for it, but it needs to be on 1 page. Please make it easier for people who are new to this. You will benefit as well as them. Looking forward to being able to use voice dialing. I think it will be working by tomorrow or after tomorrow thanks to you guys. I could have done it in a day if all the information was right there .
Thanks for reading.

Try searching.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=Samsung_Galaxy_S/SGH-I897

I have that bookmarked. It is also a sticky in this section.
But it doesn't say for instance which ones are 2.2.1, or which ones have the terrible voice dialing over bluetooth..
I do search and end up with over 15 tabs...
I am getting by, I am just saying it could be organized better for everyones benefit. It could be made so someone who has never done this before can get it done in a couple of hours if even, without keeping asking you the same questions here. I understand why people keep asking to recommend a ROM. It is not they they do not search, not all of them anyway. Things can be better organized.

I hear what you're saying, I think it's just that within the course of a month, about 20 ROM's have been released, if not more. And no one has had time to update the wiki.

vunuts said:
I hear what you're saying, I think it's just that within the course of a month, about 20 ROM's have been released, if not more. And no one has had time to update the wiki.
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The thing is that its not just the number of ROMs, but also the number of versions that are released. It would be a real pain and an added overhead for anyone maintaining it.
Also note that most devs are working too, and doing this in their free time. The little time they have to spare is taken up for making improvements. But they do release changelogs to look into.
If anyone has time, I would suggest they take it up to create a wiki and maintain it, rather than relying or asking the devs to do it.

Try capfaq.com it has a ROM table section, and I've used it alot.
Same issues with being 100% up to date, but it's the best Rom table format I've seen.
i897 running Cognition 3.02

Madtowndave said:
Try capfaq.com it has a ROM table section, and I've used it alot.
Same issues with being 100% up to date, but it's the best Rom table format I've seen.
i897 running Cognition 3.02
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http://www.capfaq.com/w/ROM_Table
Looks like they have updated it!

Thanks guys, I will check that table out tomorrow.

It'd be nice if there was a modem chart as well. I know there are modems in the modem thread
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=835272
...but near as I can tell it's not up to date, or at least the first page is not up to date (ie base Cognition runs on JL1 and Andromeda on JL2, but aren't on the first page).
If anyone knows a good and current modem reference guide, please let me know.
I can't complain too much because obviously things change all the time and it's a PITA to constantly update info...I'd volunteer but I got a 2 year old and baby 2.0 due in April.

Madtowndave said:
baby 2.0 due in April
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made me lol at the versioning of baby

diablo009 said:
made me lol at the versioning of baby
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Yeah it's like Richter Scale difference at least 0 to 1, and 1 to 2 kids...people that have more than 2 are either really bad at birth control, Catholic, or gluttons for punishment.

distortionist said:
I want you to know tho that its very hard when you have a baby, and very little time. I also want you to know that the only times I am really productive getting somewhere with my phone is staying up till like 4 am because everyone is asleep and I have the time needed to dedicate to all this reading, trying and learning.
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And I thought I was the only one!
Thanks pal for making my day...
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I bricked my phone

distortionist said:
I bricked my phone
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How? What happened?

I have no Idea what I did wrong, my goal before I started was getting voice dial over bluetooth working for me, its essential to me. It started with trying to install paragon, as per http://www.capfaq.com/w/ROM_Table mentioned above.
I was stock rogers 2.2 so I wiped it clean, and tried the update thing, it didnt work. The only step I skipped was flash to stock and the master clear since it was 2.2 recently and I did the factory wipe. It did not work but I did not brick anything just yet. I figured most people tell you to flash with the one click odin which puts stock at&t on it. I did that and the phone stopped going into download and recovery, it did not stop completely i have gone into download and recovery a few times after that but it was a battle with my phone, since it was booting, I used adt instead which worked like a charm. at&t rom was not happy on my phone, it was going into at&t reboot loops where it would just reboot the bios over and over. after trying and trying it would boot android, i was trying to fix it but each time it restarted the reboot loop would kick off. I could not go to recovery or download mode till i finally got back into the OS and used adt to tell it to go to download mode where i reflashed my stock rogers.
My phone now had at&t logo on boot before rogers, which is not that bad but i had read you can get rid of it, i tried going into download mode with the buttons but didnt try too hard, adt was easier.
I was following these instructions :
http://www.mmacleod.ca/blog/2011/01/removing-the-att-boot-screen-from-a-samsung-captivate/
it wanted me to use odin to flash a file. I used my oden 1.3, i think he says oden 1.0, I didn't think it would make a difference.
Odin started to flash and said fail. I got the screen with "android ! computer", I have been there before when I first ever tried using odin and had to fight with my phone to get to download mode at the time ( this was before at&t ever came close to the phone, i never used odin before so i probably had trouble because of inexperience ).
anyway, this time no matter what I do I cannot go to download mode, I plan on making a jig today if i find someone who sells resistors in this little town.
any help would be appreciated. I dont want to put any more roms on my phone, i just want it to work. I am worried. Ill wait till samsung releases 2.2.1 I just want my phone back to the way it was when I bought it

As the person who write most of the documentation for Team Komin (the developers who make Andromeda), I would say this would be an immense pain. copying all of our information from the website, formatting it into wiki form and then posting it would be very time consuming.

nbs11 said:
As the person who write most of the documentation for Team Komin (the developers who make Andromeda), I would say this would be an immense pain. copying all of our information from the website, formatting it into wiki form and then posting it would be very time consuming.
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True, but once done, it would be much easier to maintain and navigate. There is going to be a lot of crossposting and people asking for insight and advice.
I'm sure we all understand the search feature in the forum, but to be honest things change topic within a thread, and where someone asks a question that is somewhat unrelated and gets a very good answer, it is not always apparent by poking through page after page of posts to find that nugget of gold. I mean, searching for 'kernel' will give literally thousands of hits. A wiki would be much better in terms of 1. Where you are starting out from 2. what you need to do what you want 3. where to find these things, and 4. maintaining updates and version revisions.
I really appreciate all the work people do here, and I have had to find everything I wanted to know the 'hard' way, but as Android grows in popularity and market percentage, more and more people are going to come here looking for this information. Pobably better to do it sooner than later.

New Developer

I am not a noob to flashing, not a noob to computers, and have a decent amount of programming background but i havent seen anyone post new developer client programs. I did see the kernal source code posted im just wondering how to use it, make your own, compile and so forth. I can learn from there. If im posting in the wrong area my apologies feel free to move it (course you dont need my permission just admiting to my possible faults.)
If anyone knows where or would like to post a breakdown of what is needed to creat ROMs/Kernals for this phone please feel free to do so. I would love to try to brick my phone and let you know how well it doesnt work!

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=633246
Take a look at that. You should get a feel for where things are and what better way to start than messing with the kitchen and tinkering with your own roms. I wouldn't mess with kernels just yet until you feel you are up to par on the android basics.

Thank you! I know a little linux, played with backtrack, took a couple networking classes in college hopefully thats enough to get started.

cool, love to see more developers emerge. Good luck

I learned to compile my own ROM and kernel for my nexus. The summary is to install ubuntu, then pull down the source. Change any code you want, then compile and flash it. I'm actually setting up same thing now for ginger bread.

Good luck! I always love to see more developers and what they can do!

Knowing BT and networking isn't really the same. Not saying you can't or won't learn android, but the firmware is a different environment.
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Well i can try, see how to get things made the way i want. Brick my phone a couple times and tell you what not to do at the very least. For the most part i cant put a lot of time into it because im always on call for my job. But im going to start and play with it and loose hours and hours of sleep till i cant stand it anymore!
Its like a World of Warcraft addict but different... lol

There used to be some great ebooks for Android development on TeamWhiskey's forum. I wonder if they're still there...
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ang1dust said:
Well i can try, see how to get things made the way i want. Brick my phone a couple times and tell you what not to do at the very least. For the most part i cant put a lot of time into it because im always on call for my job. But im going to start and play with it and loose hours and hours of sleep till i cant stand it anymore!
Its like a World of Warcraft addict but different... lol
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Bricking your phone is a one time deal.............

ang1dust said:
I would love to try to brick my phone and let you know how well it doesnt work!
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Never heard of anyone bricking an android phone past repair but there's always a first.. good luck. Always glad to see more developers.

Brick means its only use is a brick. If your phone isn't past repair, it isn't bricked.
Cyber Warrior said:
Never heard of anyone bricking an android phone past repair but there's always a first.. good luck. Always glad to see more developers.
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I bricked my TP2 all the time. Hell, the first time i started flashing roms on my TP2 i accidently put a SPRINT rom on a VZW TP2...just going into bootloader and it rewiped the phone and allowed me to start over. I guess i dont know the "real" understanding of brick heh. Oh well i will find out soon.

Bricked one phone.. Got replacement. Need Help

Okay so I had a G2x and tried rooting it and I think i did something wrong. With all these instructions ramble on about one thing and another hard for me to really understand all the correct steps.
So can I please have someone give me a hand with this? As in a step by step process of everything? This is my second G2X brand new from T-Mobile has the Gingerbread 2.3.3. So if anyone can actually tell me step by step and what files I am going to need so I don't brick this one because 300USD is getting expensive.

u payed for ur replacement? lol
use the one click flash nvidia tool, to flash the clockworkmod, you dont evne have to root it
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kG08Uc8pQT0

yeah I had to pay for a second one. GRRR T-Mo actually checks their phones with sprint if I bricked or something just dip it in water and send it in. They would never check to see if you rooted it. So anyways do I install Clockwork or only do the steps in the video with the nv flasher?
And whats the best rom? I really like the looks of MIUI sorta looks like my wifes iPhone.

i think you screwed yourself on this one... this phone is like virtually unbrickable, nvflash should be able to bring you out of any soft bricks you might run into and ive run into a fair share of them and never had a problem...
i would recommend you sift though the development section and read all of the tutorials and have a very good understanding of what you are doing instead of having someone spoonfeed you everything when you really dont know what you are doing... (im a high school math teacher and cannot stand it when students are just spoonfed information because in the end they really dont understand what they are doing)
start here though http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1056847

Yeah, what he said. maybe you shouldn't be messing with your phone if you don't understand the implications.

JHaste said:
(im a high school math teacher and cannot stand it when students are just spoonfed information because in the end they really dont understand what they are doing)
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Best thing I've ever read. It helps shine a light on why so many people almost daily are asking for help on how to do something when this forum is riddled with tutorials. I personally stopped helping months ago with any questions on how to root or flash or just anything that there are tutorials for. It just gets crazy redundant.
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Beekersguy said:
Yeah, what he said. maybe you shouldn't be messing with your phone if you don't understand the implications.
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JHaste said:
(im a high school math teacher and cannot stand it when students are just spoonfed information because in the end they really dont understand what they are doing)
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guitarist5122 said:
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Best thing I've ever read. It helps shine a light on why so many people almost daily are asking for help on how to do something when this forum is riddled with tutorials. I personally stopped helping months ago with any questions on how to root or flash or just anything that there are tutorials for. It just gets crazy redundant.
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Then why even post in here? Don't be a ****. Even more frustrating than people who can't use a search feature are people too uptight and high-strung to help someone. Yeah, maybe the OP could have found the answer himself. But he's obviously been following a tutorial (likely in this very forum) that's not working for him (hence his replacement phone). The guy just needs two seconds of help from someone. In the amount of time it took me to copy/paste the following links, I could have torn him a new one thirty times over. But I'm not a ****. So, if you absolutely HAVE to post here, at least make it constructive. Incessant *****ing does no good for anyone.
To the OP:
Firstly, you'll need to flash CWM. This is super simple, given you're on a PC. If you're on Mac, things will get tricky (i.e. virtual Linux environment, headaches, etc).
Next, you can find an easy to follow rooting method here. It even has an unroot .zip option given you have to send your phone in again (will save you another $300 ).
And of course, you can PM me if you need any help. If these are the steps you have already followed, here's a YouTube video with some visuals. When I'm stuck on something, that usually helps me a lot.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7CEjInNY5Y0
Good luck!

Uhhhh... i really dont understand how i was being a ****... I simply stated that he should have a holistic understanding of what hes doing before he starts tinkering because the figure it out as you go method can lead to a 300 dollar paper weight. Not to mention I pointed him in the right direction to start....
All I did was give a bit of advice that I felt was in his best interest and then sent him on his way...
If you think what I originally posted was flaming then you clearly have never seen me tear somebody a new one lol

Dont worry man
sent from my Sensation XD

ericalanMICHAEL said:
Then why even post in here? Don't be a ****. Even more frustrating than people who can't use a search feature are people too uptight and high-strung to help someone.
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Cuz I thought what he said was funny and agreed. I didnt realize the average joe had the right to question peoples right to agree and post. Don't get self-righteous on us.
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ericalanMICHAEL said:
Then why even post in here? Don't be a ****. Even more frustrating than people who can't use a search feature are people too uptight and high-strung to help someone. Yeah, maybe the OP could have found the answer himself. But he's obviously been following a tutorial (likely in this very forum) that's not working for him (hence his replacement phone). The guy just needs two seconds of help from someone. In the amount of time it took me to copy/paste the following links, I could have torn him a new one thirty times over. But I'm not a ****. So, if you absolutely HAVE to post here, at least make it constructive. Incessant *****ing does no good for anyone.
To the OP:
Firstly, you'll need to flash CWM. This is super simple, given you're on a PC. If you're on Mac, things will get tricky (i.e. virtual Linux environment, headaches, etc).
Next, you can find an easy to follow rooting method here. It even has an unroot .zip option given you have to send your phone in again (will save you another $300 ).
And of course, you can PM me if you need any help. If these are the steps you have already followed, here's a YouTube video with some visuals. When I'm stuck on something, that usually helps me a lot.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7CEjInNY5Y0
Good luck!
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They are being difficult. What they realize is that the OP has already stated that he's bricked one device because he cannot follow directions. He obviously does not know what he's doing, and has problems following instructions because, as he put it..they go on and on... In the end even if he successfully roots his phone, he may wind up causing himself problems by having access to system files because it's obvious he doesn't really know what he's doing. Everyone shouldn't root. If you cannot follow the simple instructions to root without "bricking" a device, and you cannot follow simple instructions to bring the device back to an operational state, then perhaps rooting is not for you (OP). It just sounds like he is going to cause himself even more problems.

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They are being difficult. What they realize is that the OP has already stated that he's bricked one device because he cannot follow directions. He obviously does not know what he's doing, and has problems following instructions because, as he put it..they go on and on... In the end even if he successfully roots his phone, he may wind up causing himself problems by having access to system files because it's obvious he doesn't really know what he's doing. Everyone shouldn't root. If you cannot follow the simple instructions to root without "bricking" a device, and you cannot follow simple instructions to bring the device back to an operational state, then perhaps rooting is not for you (OP). It just sounds like he is going to cause himself even more problems.
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^^this... root access to phones is not a hand out, it has to be earned, and you earn it by educating yourself about your device and its capabilities and by following simple instructions...

sabwjawdjw said:
yeah I had to pay for a second one. GRRR T-Mo actually checks their phones with sprint if I bricked or something just dip it in water and send it in. They would never check to see if you rooted it. So anyways do I install Clockwork or only do the steps in the video with the nv flasher?
And whats the best rom? I really like the looks of MIUI sorta looks like my wifes iPhone.
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I can't believe no one has said this yet.
Most phones have water sensors, so dipping it in water would just void the warranty. Sorry if you were joking. But as many have said, it's pretty easy to flash the phone back to normal so the TMobile doesn't know it's been hacked. Did you ask here first?

I am thankful for all the responses. Sorry if I caused grief and headache to anyone. I was finally able to get my phone rooted giving the information that someone provided to me on here. I sent him a PM to personally thank him.
By all means I should probably be *****ed at if I don't follow instructions very well. I have always considered myself a visual learner. If I don't have hands on and able to see it done, it really complicates things for me. I guess you can call it a disability.
Anyways I have come from a long line to HTC which I can say is way different in rooting then these phones. I root them to begin with to get rid of all the stupid software T-Mobile places in my phone and to normally switch to CM7 which I have found out is giving me problems which I am currently trying to figure out.
So please negative comments and put downs are always accepted it comes with the questions. But I don't want to sound like an ass or anything when I say this because I mean it in the upmost respect to everyone, but isn't this a forum? A community forum?
Someone once had to show you, all I did was ask for the same help. And this whole GSM network ways of doing things is different from my typical Sprint CDMA network that I am used to. Everything was pretty much the same when it came to that.
Again please I AM VERY SORRY truly if I caused any problems. Please don't be upset at me. Thanks.

I don't think anyone is upset with you. We're all here to contribute and help. Have fun with your rooted G2X

sabwjawdjw said:
Okay so I had a G2x and tried rooting it and I think i did something wrong. With all these instructions ramble on about one thing and another hard for me to really understand all the correct steps.
So can I please have someone give me a hand with this? As in a step by step process of everything? This is my second G2X brand new from T-Mobile has the Gingerbread 2.3.3. So if anyone can actually tell me step by step and what files I am going to need so I don't brick this one because 300USD is getting expensive.
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Don't feel bad. I bricked mine upgrading to GB, and I'm still not sure what went wrong. I got it fixed for free by sending it into LG.

sabwjawdjw said:
I am thankful for all the responses. Sorry if I caused grief and headache to anyone. I was finally able to get my phone rooted giving the information that someone provided to me on here. I sent him a PM to personally thank him.
By all means I should probably be *****ed at if I don't follow instructions very well. I have always considered myself a visual learner. If I don't have hands on and able to see it done, it really complicates things for me. I guess you can call it a disability.
Anyways I have come from a long line to HTC which I can say is way different in rooting then these phones. I root them to begin with to get rid of all the stupid software T-Mobile places in my phone and to normally switch to CM7 which I have found out is giving me problems which I am currently trying to figure out.
So please negative comments and put downs are always accepted it comes with the questions. But I don't want to sound like an ass or anything when I say this because I mean it in the upmost respect to everyone, but isn't this a forum? A community forum?
Someone once had to show you, all I did was ask for the same help. And this whole GSM network ways of doing things is different from my typical Sprint CDMA network that I am used to. Everything was pretty much the same when it came to that.
Again please I AM VERY SORRY truly if I caused any problems. Please don't be upset at me. Thanks.
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Do not sweat the whiners. Here is the way I look at it... It is a forum for developers. I can not develop crap, so I try to do my part by being helpful when I can. Everyone here was brand new at one point. Make sure you do your part by reading as much as you can. If you still have questions/issues, send me a PM.

Why does every noob question get followed up with a bunch bullshizz. We were all noobs at one point, I remember when my Huawei ascend scared me. Nothing is worse than bricking your phone and being upset than a bunch of know it all asses being pricks. Is the g2x forum the only one full of d-ckheads? I've never heard so much whining and holier than thou bs. I'm surprised we have any devs, ungrateful bunch of *****es. Wah, nvidia never, wah, everyone else has ics, wah, that noob asked a question, wah, I suck. I love my g2x, it's a typical musclecar, way over powered and finicky as hell. The g2x is not a beginners device, this is for big boys and girls. I wonder what the whiners would do if they owned a ferrari? Newsflash, they break down, a lot! I remember when xda was where you went for help and support, now I come here to be entertained by the ignorance of the know it alls. Go ahead, blast me, I'm a writer for an Android website and I'll make it painful. OK, then, how bout all these new roms and updates? It's like the g2x is reborn. Hey, wait a minute, I thought the g2x was a useless, unsupported piece of ka ka? Frickin morons!
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Well first I am glad you were able to fix the phone however I understand knowledgeable people get frustrated because this phone is simple to root. With a phone that has been out this long there is no reason anyone can not find out what to do on there own.
There are so many YouTube videos and forums like this. You are not the second person to too your phone or to brick it so why create a new post looking for help when you can simply Google it. I know your lazy and expect someone else to do your work for you.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&...9l19l0l3l3l0l1535l5020l1.0.3.0.2.2.1.0.1l10l0
See plenty of info on the subject I am sure one of these other people have been helped.
This is why devs are tired of these questions they have been answered over and over. You may find this mean to say but you most likely found this forum by using Google so use it to fix your phone. Stop wasting peoples time by being lazy and use your head.
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The problem is this. Ppl dont know how to research their issue. Also ppl in our generation cant seem to follow directions worth ****. I was the same way. I learned on my g1. Rooted it successful and then bricked my friends. Over the years ive learned alot about computers/phone/cdma flashing. Playing with the big boys. You develop problem solving skills that you can apply outside of this. It truly makes you smarter. So yea. Maybe we are know it all asses.
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AOSP ICS for the samsung galaxy s 4g

Literally every other phone has some kind of beta ICS support. I've never developed a rom but i've found myself with some free time i don't want to spend studying for my ccna and would like to devote it to getting an aosp rom semi working. even if it's only the most basic of roms then someone more experienced won't have to start from scratch.
tl;dr I'm looking into making a sgs4g ics aosp rom and would love any tips/advice instructions that people have to offer.

Start reading the forums !!!

trust me i've been reading i set up my linux box and have been trying to find any info about creating an ICS rom but all i've been finding is stuff for gingerbread. btw this is strictly in my freetime and i'll need to wait till i buy another phone before i start flashing willy nilly on my baby lol so yea it's gonna be a while.

I don't think it was on XDA -- but Android Forums if I'm not mistaken.
There was a team who were making pretty good progress on it but unfortunately they had to drop development on it.
It was a problem of devoting time and bricked devices. If memory serves me correctly. Googling around rather than searching XDA will help you find the thread I was talking about. Because I sure can't. Might've been on Rootz too, really not sure.
I'm pretty sure FB was working on it. That or shutting up all the kiddies demanding more progress. One of those two.

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I don't think it was on XDA -- but Android Forums if I'm not mistaken.
There was a team who were making pretty good progress on it but unfortunately they had to drop development on it.
It was a problem of devoting time and bricked devices. If memory serves me correctly. Googling around rather than searching XDA will help you find the thread I was talking about. Because I sure can't. Might've been on Rootz too, really not sure.
I'm pretty sure FB was working on it. That or shutting up all the kiddies demanding more progress. One of those two.
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Any idea what the name of the team that was working on it might have been?

testing
ok so it's unlikely that i'll be able to afford a new phone for a while and i'm not too excited to be testing this on my phone so my question is will anyone be willing to try out my concoctions on their device? i'm asking for people with experience recovering their devices here. i really don't want any "My phone is ruined" situations here. i'm looking for testing and feedback as i'm working on a kernel first the goal will be to get the phone to boot with ics.

With only 4 posts you're going to have to prove to others that you're legitimate before they want to try out your releases.

How exactly do i go about proving myself to the xda community?
I mean the people who matter and can help with this little project.

Get a rom out... Hahaha.

ultimately if you dont have the courage to flash it to your own device dont expect others to feel really well about flashing it for you.... (unless your 100 percent sure it wont hard brick them)..

It's not really a matter of confidence it's that i need my phone for work/school. Once i get another i wouldn't mind flashing it. I wouldn't ask someone to flash something that would brick their devices.

andon21 said:
It's not really a matter of confidence it's that i need my phone for work/school. Once i get another i wouldn't mind flashing it. I wouldn't ask someone to flash something that would brick their devices.
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I use my primary phone for test flashing. . If you're gonna wait for another phone then don't start deving until you get that phone, or rather don't release your dev work until you're sure it works.

FBis251 said:
I use my primary phone for test flashing. . If you're gonna wait for another phone then don't start deving until you get that phone, or rather don't release your dev work until you're sure it works.
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How badly have you ever messed up your device lol?

nothing more than a softbrick when I haven't messed with bootloaders.

Don't you have the unbrickable mod FB? That is an option.

lumin30 said:
Don't you have the unbrickable mod FB? That is an option.
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I don't. I just like to think I know what I'm doing half the time. Haha. Trust me, if you stay away from bootloaders it's practically impossible to hard brick.

ICS
@andon21
I saw a link where Team Acid was working on ICS - don't have it off hand

Thats another question will i need to make my own bootloader?

andon21 said:
Thats another question will i need to make my own bootloader?
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Here you go:
http://www.freeyourandroid.com/guide/compile-ics

FBis251 said:
Here you go:
http://www.freeyourandroid.com/guide/compile-ics
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you're a rockstar thanks alot! actually spent all day searching for something like this been working from a gingerbread guide lol.

AOKP/CM - ICS -> JB BootLoader?

I haven't found the answer, and I was actually just curious as to what the hurdles are switching the bootloader in the rom is?
Being that I am on the JB BL, I am stuck with mainly two roms, Clean and Hydro. Both great roms, but was just curious from a dev standpoint, since we have both the ICS and JB bootloaders floating around out there, what hurdles are in place keeping a JB BL version of AOSP being made.
Thanks!
Mario

+1 I would like to know also. I keep seeing don't do it you will brick but can't find any information about what happened or when. Yes I have searched! I may not be able to recover from a problem that you just breeze through as we are all different. The subject deserves further study.
I can place Asus ICS update on my sdcard and get an offer to downgrade just as I got offers to upgrade.
Maybe someone can provide links or definite info about this situation.

there are some devs trying to get this working, but it seems to be very hard to get it running

mikaole said:
there are some devs trying to get this working, but it seems to be very hard to get it running
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Maybe someone will start a thread to collect and share info about this problem.

tobdaryl said:
Maybe someone will start a thread to collect and share info about this problem.
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No, the devs should work on this problem and trying to fix it not discuss why its not running.
As far as I know it has something to do with the new Kernel.

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No, the devs should work on this problem and trying to fix it not discuss why its not running.
As far as I know it has something to do with the new Kernel.
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I was speaking of the devs starting and maintaining the thread.
I have seen one post here (FT300) asking for testers NVFlash but it is common in other threads.
The more heads involved the better the chances of conquering the problem.
Take the nook tablet!
Bauwks broke open the locked bootloader problem, you never see him post but he is there and knows his stuff.
AdamOutler seldom posts but he broke booting from the sdcard.
Numerous threads were provided a key piece of the puzzle by people who seldom post and are not listed here as developers.
These things have a better chance of coming to pass with more people involved and that is the reason for a sharing thread.
Obviously the thread has to be highly regulated as to what can and can't be posted for it to be effective.
There are good devs in this forum also and I'm sure they are working on the problem and I take nothing away from them or their contributions, but maybe there are people in the wings who could also help (not me).
I will be a tester as needed but don't have current knowledge base to work with. Like others here I am trying to learn by studying and following examples of others.:good:

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No, the devs should work on this problem and trying to fix it not discuss why its not running.
As far as I know it has something to do with the new Kernel.
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I can see both +'s and -'s to this. Myself, I have both Engineering and Computer Science degrees and quite an extensive amount of programming experience, but I have never worked on the Android platform. Any and all information pertaining to the reasons or methodologies behind why something isn't working is all food for thought for someone like me and might be a trigger to motivate a breakthrough. Being in the dark in most cases doesn't move anything forward, and I think there is an old saying that really applies here... "Why recreate the wheel."
I know a lot of programmers think "Do it yourself and learn", but at the same time, we are all trying to work to the same goal, getting the best user experience we can. With that said, if every single person had to start off at point 0, it would take an infinitely longer amount of time to get to where we could be. If we all shared ideas, and in some simple form or another, had a collection of proofs that have worked, then it would allow anyone with minimal android programming experience a way to start somewhere beyond point 0, and get up and helping as quickly as possible.
For those who simply want to sit back and complain about something not working but have no interest nor will to contribute, this may be the issue we are experiencing with programmers who just have no interest in hearing people whine and fill up their threads.
Just my 2c.
Mario

Anyone have any links to people who actually bricked trying to go back to JB from ICS? I have searched and searched without any positive results. I only get don't do it, it will brick your device.