Gameloft Xperia play liars - Xperia Play Themes and Apps

I just bought Modern Combat 3 through the android.com website
because my Xperia play is not being allowed to buy it for some unknown reason.
Anyways. I bought it online thinking I could download it on the phone once it was purchased and to my DISMAY. It's still not showing up.
Furthermore when I try to install through the website on my phones browser it says "incompatibe device" and it's showing up as greyed out.
Also when I try to open it on my market via the website . It loads the app for a split second then pops up and error message saying
"That app does not exist"
I SAW IT LOAD UP! They are lying!
I have a rooted R800X. Verizon firmware 2.3.3
So I'm trying to find out why other users of this forum are allowed to buy and play it on their Xperia but they are black listing me saying its "incompatible"
Oh P.S alot of their other games aren't showing up in the market either
It's almost like they are trying to keep us from buying the games on the 99 cent sale day.

not all games are available in every area and gameloft often takes there games off the market so its an old dead link thats 'loading up' you will have to google it and find a "modified" version that someone has uploaded

Some games from Gameloft require 2.3.4 & higher even though they don't say that on the Market or their site...

Can't get the game here either. Called gameloft and they said the games compatible on my r800x and the problem is on the android market side and they have nothing to do with 3rd parties that sell there games. Oh and the wapshop the game is still 4.99. The promotion is only for the android market. I live in Los Angeles and can't get the discount bull****!
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CapNM77 said:
Can't get the game here either. Called gameloft and they said the games compatible on my r800x and the problem is on the android market side and they have nothing to do with 3rd parties that sell there games. Oh and the wapshop the game is still 4.99. The promotion is only for the android market. I live in Los Angeles and can't get the discount bull****!
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I bought the game and i cant get a refund
Its not showing up on my market ( ON THE XPERIA)
It wont download on my droid X even tho it shows that I purchased it and Its showing up in that market
I'm getting really mad
People are complaining on facebook to. Seems like this is just a scam or something
I want my money back or a freaking APK to install
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Some games from Gameloft require 2.3.4 & higher even though they don't say that on the Market or their site...
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Not true
It's showing up on my Droid X running 2.2.1 Custom ROM
not showing up on the Xperia with 2.3.3
Something is wacky here.
Seems like a scam to me. Also they said they would tell us when it went on sale on Facebook. they never posted it on the wall tho.
Their is nothing on their wall about it
I'm going to check their twitter account now

I just called them. The guy on the phone wanted my phone number and my carrier . Verizon
I told him the info.
He didn't even ask for my Google Receipt number.
He told me to hold. I was on hold for 2 minutes
He gets back on the phone and says they will send me a text message with a link for the APK file. Said it would take a few minutes
This was 20 minutes ago
I'm going to call back and try to get them to give me a straight answer
He didn't tell me why its not showing up on my market

Hogwarts said:
I just called them. The guy on the phone wanted my phone number and my carrier . Verizon
I told him the info.
He didn't even ask for my Google Receipt number.
He told me to hold. I was on hold for 2 minutes
He gets back on the phone and says they will send me a text message with a link for the APK file. Said it would take a few minutes
This was 20 minutes ago
I'm going to call back and try to get them to give me a straight answer
He didn't tell me why its not showing up on my market
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How on earth can you say gameloft are liars, you checked the market and the game said it was not compatible, buying it off the web market wont make it magically compatible with your device. If you were then stupid enough to buy it even after the market told you your device was not compaible it's your own fault.
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I had an issue with MC2 and emailed them about it. They replied with an apology, server issues, and asked if I would like a free game I asked for MC3 and got it. Runs great and the xperia controls a really really good.
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I just called them back. Had to be on hold for over 20 minutes this time
I asked to email me the game and the guy finally sent it VIA an email
Will post a reply if its working.
Haven't tested it yet

AndroHero said:
How on earth can you say gameloft are liars, you checked the market and the game said it was not compatible, buying it off the web market wont make it magically compatible with your device. If you were then stupid enough to buy it even after the market told you your device was not compaible it's your own fault.
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It wasnt on the market
maybe you should read it again.
and its saying not compatible on the website not the market
P.S the game is compatible with my device so explain how they aren't lying?
They finally budged and sent me the game after 2 phone calls
and it seems to be working fine
So actually they are cheats. by not telling people on the facebook page that the game is on sale
also cheats by not letting verizon users see the games in the market
also liars by saying its "not compatible" when i am playing the game right now

Hogwarts said:
It wasnt on the market
maybe you should read it again.
and its saying not compatible on the website not the market
P.S the game is compatible with my device so explain how they aren't lying?
They finally budged and sent me the game after 2 phone calls
and it seems to be working fine
So actually they are cheats. by not telling people on the facebook page that the game is on sale
also cheats by not letting verizon users see the games in the market
also liars by saying its "not compatible" when i am playing the game right now
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There is a different version of the game for the xperia play. Gameloft has always done this. The website version of the android market said it wasn't compatible because of this. Any game from gameloft on the xperia play should be purchased from gameloft themselves (just go to gameloft.com on your phone). 10 minutes of research on these forums could have told you that before you tried purchasing it and then throwing a fit about it.

We are talking America r800x. We are the super power and no MC3 weak.
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CapNM77 said:
We are talking America r800x. We are the super power and no MC3 weak.
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Superpower Your only super when we are there to look after you lol
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Superpower Your only super when we are there to look after you lol
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We are the SUPER AMERICA.
proof of that. I call the Gameloft and tell those rip offs who is right.
They send me the game i paid for. Done and done.
double done.
I can call google and complain to and they will send me the game
because they know of Gamelofts scam tactics. thats why gameloft trys to keep off the android market because of how they try to use DRM to scam people
making it a royal pain in the azz when you put ROM's on phone. you have to "request" all your apks to be given back to you.
what a load of BULL CRAP! - Screw that.
I'm getting the sales i deserve. I pray that all americans call game loft and push 1-1-0 that will get you connected to customer support
then voice your opinion about not being able to buy the 99 cent game
let them know that us americans need to have the deal just like everyone else
this is not good. not good at all.

Androhero, sometimes I respect what you do on these forums, and other times i find you to be an offensive narrow-minded jerk.
Gameloft is clearly trying to play both sides of the fence with android, and has been since the beginning, they don't like the amount of pro-consumer defences in place on the market. I'm not sure i understand how you can defend them as zealously as you have.
I bought modern combat 3 for 0.99c on the market despite it not being compatible with my handset, and heres why:
a. I have the moral high-ground when it comes to sideloading the app from various sources.
b. It's cheaper lol.
c. I have the advantage of having an sgs, I can have it sent to my sgs via the web market and then simply sideload it to my play, no dodgy websites involved.
I can understand, but don't completely agree with limiting markets by territory, i believe that in many cases Gameloft purposely allows and disallows various apps not for technical issues, but that in their eyes it makes more business sense for them to do so, even though its the end users that suffer for it.
I operate in this way and don't expect to have Gameloft help me at all, I know im bending the rules, and i'm ok with that, as i dont believe anyone could really call my actions dishonest or sneaky.
How do you feel knowing that Gameloft segregates us from the rest of the android market, likely because we are more willing to pay full price for games and they are taking advantage of that, its certainly not because of all the extra effort they put into xplay compatible controls .........LOL!!!.........
anyways enough of that, i don't really actually expect to play this game, but i do like specials.

Mael5trom said:
Androhero, sometimes I respect what you do on these forums, and other times i find you to be an offensive narrow-minded jerk.
Gameloft is clearly trying to play both sides of the fence with android, and has been since the beginning, they don't like the amount of pro-consumer defences in place on the market. I'm not sure i understand how you can defend them as zealously as you have.
I bought modern combat 3 for 0.99c on the market despite it not being compatible with my handset, and heres why:
a. I have the moral high-ground when it comes to sideloading the app from various sources.
b. It's cheaper lol.
c. I have the advantage of having an sgs, I can have it sent to my sgs via the web market and then simply sideload it to my play, no dodgy websites involved.
I can understand, but don't completely agree with limiting markets by territory, i believe that in many cases Gameloft purposely allows and disallows various apps not for technical issues, but that in their eyes it makes more business sense for them to do so, even though its the end users that suffer for it.
I operate in this way and don't expect to have Gameloft help me at all, I know im bending the rules, and i'm ok with that, as i dont believe anyone could really call my actions dishonest or sneaky.
How do you feel knowing that Gameloft segregates us from the rest of the android market, likely because we are more willing to pay full price for games and they are taking advantage of that, its certainly not because of all the extra effort they put into xplay compatible controls .........LOL!!!.........
anyways enough of that, i don't really actually expect to play this game, but i do like specials.
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Maelstrom, dude i know where your comming from, but you need to understand gameloft do not directly sell there games on android market, infact they sell the games to google and google sell them on the market, it's then up to google to decide what devices are compatible and not, i'm sure amazon played a big part in MC3 not being availible for the R800x, but bottom line it's nothing to do with gameloft, he should be calling google names, gameloft even went out of there way to provide him with a free .apk even though they were not legally required
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AndroHero said:
Maelstrom, dude i know where your comming from, but you need to understand gameloft do not directly sell there games on android market, infact they sell the games to google and google sell them on the market, it's then up to google to decide what devices are compatible and not, i'm sure amazon played a big part in MC3 not being availible for the R800x, but bottom line it's nothing to do with gameloft, he should be calling google names, gameloft even went out of there way to provide him with a free .apk even though they were not legally required
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AndroHero I respect you and what you do on these forums but I have to say this
I've been researching and I found that Verizon and the R800X have been denied games before this MC3 thing.
And I believe after researching it's part of Verizon with their Vcast Malware.
YES I'm calling it Malware. I believe it actually is blocking us from getting specific games on our devices by means of hardware lockout. I believe this is why the google market will not show it to us at all.
I think gameloft was aware of this so that is why they are sending the games directly.
Did you also know if you buy the gameloft games through the VCAST store. Once you switch carriers the games will no longer play anymore
Yup thats right. Because without a "DRM network check" Verizon has their apps setup to always force close with an error.
So even if you pay full price for all the gameloft games from the Verizon Apps store (The only place you can get some of them)
You are getting your money stolen basically and being forced to say with Verizon
So maybe I was wrong to call Gameloft liars. Maybe it's not their fault. I dont know but I do know that this isn't fair to us Xperia Play owners. We are being excluded every day and it's REAL CRAP!

I totally agree, and verizon sucks, why do guys even get verizon phones? If you all went to AT&T or T-mobile ect. Verizon would soon change there ways
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AndroHero said:
I totally agree, and verizon sucks, why do guys even get verizon phones? If you all went to AT&T or T-mobile ect. Verizon would soon change there ways
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I'll tell you why people keep buying Verizon, at least in our area. Because of service coverage. My daughter works for a company that is the call center for AT&T. Interestingly enough, almost all of their employees have Verizon as their personal carrier because AT&T's coverage is so poor. Same with most of the other carriers.
That's also why Verizon can get away with screwing its customers in so many ways. Captive audience.

CapNM77 said:
We are talking America r800x. We are the super power and no MC3 weak.
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Hogwarts said:
We are the SUPER AMERICA.
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You two seriously make me embarrassed to be American on these forums. Typical entitlement bratty attitudes. You're not better or more important than anyone else because you're American.
AndroHero said:
Maelstrom, dude i know where your comming from, but you need to understand gameloft do not directly sell there games on android market, infact they sell the games to google and google sell them on the market, it's then up to google to decide what devices are compatible and not, i'm sure amazon played a big part in MC3 not being availible for the R800x, but bottom line it's nothing to do with gameloft, he should be calling google names, gameloft even went out of there way to provide him with a free .apk even though they were not legally required
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Thats not true, Gameloft does sell the games themselves on the Android Market. Gameloft specifically is the one who sets the permissions which can be done both within the programming as well as when the app is loaded on to the market. Gameloft locks their Xperia Play games to their WAP store for one reason, as mentioned by another poster. They believe that people who own a "gaming" phone will pay extra for the version of the game that works with their phone. They have even gone so far as to have programmed different versions, even though they don't need to. The only reason MC3 even shows up was likely due to them accidentally not locking out some models of the R800 (You need to specifically pick R800i, R800x, R800at etc in the dev console), or they changed their policy, but still locked out the R800x thanks to Verizon wanting to have it exclusive on their V-crap store.
A lot of these mistakes happen with their games, look at Assassins Creed with its graphical glitches, Eternal Legacy with its crashes, Shadow Guardian and the fact you can't actually complete the damn game due to a bug in one of the puzzles! Not sure if they use cheap programmers, or they just rush job stuff out the door to squeeze every last penny out.
AndroHero said:
I totally agree, and verizon sucks, why do guys even get verizon phones? If you all went to AT&T or T-mobile ect. Verizon would soon change there ways
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Below is the best answer
netizenmt said:
I'll tell you why people keep buying Verizon, at least in our area. Because of service coverage. My daughter works for a company that is the call center for AT&T. Interestingly enough, almost all of their employees have Verizon as their personal carrier because AT&T's coverage is so poor. Same with most of the other carriers.
That's also why Verizon can get away with screwing its customers in so many ways. Captive audience.
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Its like this all over the country. There is no place in the US especially any place near a metropolitan area that any other carrier has better service. The difference is tremendous between them and everyone else. Also, up until a couple months ago the only way you could get the Play was through Verizon, unless you didn't care to have 3G service. Incidentally Verizon is owned partially by Vodafone, I'm assuming though Vodafones business practices are different?
So... in the end... this thing is still a Phone and thats what we all have a need for. Game controls and video games etc are just gravy.
As for the OP. Gameloft clearly doesn't allow their Market apps for a reason as discussed. It doesn't work, you can complain to them as to why they aren't allowing download on the Market, but the fact you wasted a buck on it and it won't work isn't their fault, they told you it wasn't gonna work and you did it anyway.
Then in the end even though you basically tried to skirt their rules (however immoral they may be) they still helped you out by giving you the game working for your phone anyway. I'd say the customer service really isn't so bad after all (they gave me a free game too for the whole Shadow Guardian debacle).

Related

[Q] Twin Blades - No Longer in Market Place

Any idea as to what happened to Twin Blades?how come its no longer in market place. thanks
http://www.wpcentral.com/twin-blades-pulled-marketplace
Going the way of Apple, eh? but luckily Apple changed, hence the advent of great games like Resident Evil and Dead Space
its a disappointment indeed. im also wondering as to why they need to take out twin blades from market place because of the mature rating? not all kids can buy a device that is costly as windows phone, and to think most windows phone owners are matured enough to handle such content.
if this is the case, good and exciting games are being removed from circulation, i think i might as well stick with my wii. too bad wii doesnt have phone integration lol.
thanks for the info
slighmd said:
Going the way of Apple, eh? but luckily Apple changed, hence the advent of great games like Resident Evil and Dead Space
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Yeah they changed alright, hence the requirement for all apps that use external subscription (Kindle, B&N, Rhapsody..you name it) to instead go through in-app purchases, giving Apple a nice 30% cut. That's right. They want 30% of Kindle's sales that go through iPhone.
I'd argue that a "Mature" rating from the ESRB is not the same as what Microsoft meant originally when referring to "Mature Content" in their Marketplace rules. There has to be some common sense about this stuff. Blood and gore is not the same as porn.
Damn
I bought the app months ago, but installed a new sd card. Does anyone know who I can contact about getting the game again or refund my money. Rather have the game, it was great to waste five or ten minutes.
Please keep things other than app releases OUT of WP7 Apps and Games, and please read the stickied rules at the top of each forum you are in.
~~Tito~~
It sucks, bit keep in mind kids can sometimes purchase this stuff without parental consent. Theonly way to prevent this from happening is to just not let it get on the marketplace. Google hs a no porn policy for Android market, ad well. I can name examples of apps that were pulled from well known entities, but I don't want to go there...
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I'm guessing it might have been less the blood and gore, and more the lesbian undertones of the cut scenes.
is there anyway of getting this back or a refund?
x0xwolverinex0x said:
is there anyway of getting this back or a refund?
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As for as know there are no refunds. I was able to find a copy on a site that goes against xda's policy.
One article was stating the dev my be out of business not a marketplace issue.
Never played it anyone got the xap?
you can still download it in private market place if you have a full unlock rom

N64 Emulator gone from market?

It appears the n64 Emulator was pulled from the market. Anybody know why? flashed cm7 n26 last night and cant restore. market says requested item not found.
yup i flashed a new rom and tried to redownload it and couldnt find it. there goes 6 bucks.
xRepinsSporx said:
yup i flashed a new rom and tried to redownload it and couldnt find it. there goes 6 bucks.
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Yeah it's too bad that the Market is the only place to get apps, huh...
You can find the emulator on 4shared.com, who pays for apps anymore? Lol
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I emailed the dev and this was his response
A great number of users are complaining about the compatibility and running performance. Considering the bad ratings, I temporarily unpublished it. I am doing a rewrite of some of the core modules. Don't worry, N64oid will be back much better in 1-2 months.
Thanks for the understanding! I won't let people down
Ya people are retarded. Brand new app and they expect it to be flawless. Hate complainers. I actually did download I from a sharing site first but was impressed and decided to buy it. Plus 15 min refund window basicly makes it impossible to try it out. I never had problems with the app on my xoom of evo. I play it whenever I can at work
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wow dose that mean the people that bought it will receive the new version free? just sayin...
2nd that
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Ryjabo said:
Yeah it's too bad that the Market is the only place to get apps, huh...
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have you tried amazonappstore... there should be a app in the market place for that. if not try amazon.com
jonlee83 said:
have you tried amazonappstore... there should be a app in the market place for that. if not try amazon.com
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I don't think he was serious but the amazon app store is nice.
I don't blame him for doing this. People were all bent out of shape that it was $6 and he didn't have every rom working flawlessly. They rate bombed his app in the market.
The truth is that even if you only had 3 games working well, that should be worth your $6.
Oh well, now because everyone cried we can sit here with the app in it's current version, and wait 2 months for him to release a finished product instead of having something useable with updates all along the way.
Unrelated, but I just got a notice from google saying that one of my apps (a space invaders emulator) has been removed due to copyright infringement, even though it includes no roms.
I wonder why people complain about it about its sluggishness.
I mean, its not the developers fault that the people don't buy high-end phones.
They expect a 3D emulator to work on a 600mhz proccessor?
I mean, too many apps on ur phone also makes it slow.
Why bother leaving a low rating when its not the developers fault. The emulator runs flawlessly on the Evo, nexus s... (1 ghz+)
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jonlee83 said:
have you tried amazonappstore... there should be a app in the market place for that. if not try amazon.com
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I was being sarcastic.
koshinobi said:
You can find the emulator on 4shared.com, who pays for apps anymore? Lol
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Dude are you seriously that cheap! Android apps are most of the time a dollar maybe two. The ones that are more are usually well worth it. Six dollars for something that lets you play N64 games anywhere you go is cheap, and you know you didn't pay for any of the 1000 games you have to play for it. Plus With the huge number of free apps, paying a dollar for the one out of every twenty apps is crazy cheap.
Sorry for the rant, but stealing a android app is like stealing from a guy with a morgage and a family vs a movie is coming out of a mega corporations pocket. Most of the Developers in the market and on here make all this awesome stuff because they like too, with the added side effect of making money. Support the developers so they will keep make cool stuff!
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Dude are you seriously that cheap! Android apps are most of the time a dollar maybe two. The ones that are more are usually well worth it. Six dollars for something that lets you play N64 games anywhere you go is cheap, and you know you didn't pay for any of the 1000 games you have to play for it. Plus With the huge number of free apps, paying a dollar for the one out of every twenty apps is crazy cheap.
Sorry for the rant, but stealing a android app is like stealing from a guy with a morgage and a family vs a movie is coming out of a mega corporations pocket. Most of the Developers in the market and on here make all this awesome stuff because they like too, with the added side effect of making money. Support the developers so they will keep make cool stuff!
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I wouldn't even worry about that guy. He'll probably need the Android Market Security Tool eventually with that kind of attitude.
Please don't pirate these apps...it only demoralizes the devs that work hard to make profit from it. Stolen copies = less updates.
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Please don't pirate these apps...it only demoralizes the devs that work hard to make profit from it. Stolen copies = less updates.
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If they enter into the app development world, they've got to know/expect that people will pirate their apps. It's inevitable. If they get butthurt about it and stop updating their apps because of that, then they probably don't have what it takes to compete in this arena.
Having said that... I've paid for the apps that are on my phone.

Eternal Legacy HD

I just discovered the existence of this game. where is it on the Market? It doesn't seem to be searchable with the term "Eternal Legacy". Gameloft's own website seems to require that one enters a service provider.
With the Transformer being an WiFi only device it doesn't have a service provider.
does anyone know how to get this game working on the transformer?
I'll go ahead and cover this. Gameloft is protesting the Android Market place. As such, they pulled all apps from the market and decided to sell them via their own means. The apps are available on their website via a moronic text system that more often than not, fails. None of the games are currently built for tablets, honeycomb or tegra optimized. So, unfortunately, until Gameloft offers the games on the site as such, you are SOL.
They're idiots...thats all I have to say.
blaine.hale said:
I'll go ahead and cover this. Gameloft is protesting the Android Market place. As such, they pulled all apps from the market and decided to sell them via their own means. The apps are available on their website via a moronic text system that more often than not, fails. None of the games are currently built for tablets, honeycomb or tegra optimized. So, unfortunately, until Gameloft offers the games on the site as such, you are SOL.
They're idiots...thats all I have to say.
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And I learned something new today, thanks blaine.
So why are they protesting the market?
~DC
The reason, as far as I know, is unannounced. Weird move considering it's the largest phone platform currently on the market. Sure, they're not paying the google fee for apps but I think they lost the vast majority of sales by not being a presence on the market and making it difficult to get their product.
Time will tell
P.S. this game doesn't support tegra2 and will not run on the transformer, even if you find ways of installing it.
Gameloft really does have some of the best games ever, but they suck for not being in the market. And I wish they would start supporting tegra2 I really want to play this game on my tablet!
wonder who their marketing genius is behind this decision....personally will only buy games through the market...it's buggy at times but overall works well. Guess they're trying to build demand for the product. Probably some young hipsters trying to buck the man.
Gameloft has a store set up for the Xoom:
http://wapshop.gameloft.com/php5/us...80f5f752d267d656&from=ADID-149339&promo=bogof
And the Acer Iconia:
http://wapshop.gameloft.com/php5/us...&sv5551=e1d30053e0e9f082d4e0&from=ADID-147084
And I have read that the games for the LG P990 Optimus 2x will work:
http://wapshop.gameloft.com/php5/us...&sv5551=81c380d350b9d085c7b8&from=ADID-147084
I am debating buying the Asphalt 6 version for either Xoom or Iconia myself as I have read that they will work through some googling. If anyone is willing to spend the $5 to try them while I am talking myself into being a guinea pig at least they have the buy one get one deal going on. Asphalt 6 and NOVA for $5? Yes please.
krighton said:
wonder who their marketing genius is behind this decision....personally will only buy games through the market...it's buggy at times but overall works well. Guess they're trying to build demand for the product. Probably some young hipsters trying to buck the man.
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Then why would you want to support the man?
The only reason why the Market exists is because there are dullards who can't Google the software websites for themselves.
The Market never existed in Windows Mobile, and I was able to find more quality software and information about software than Android.
So to cater to a unwashed masses of retards, software companies have to submit to Google's and Apples dumb down gateway system, letting them restrict freedom thru regulating on what kind of software is allowed and take a cut too.
Like with everything, masses of uninformed people are the single greatest barrier to freedom for everyone.
klau1 said:
I just discovered the existence of this game. where is it on the Market? It doesn't seem to be searchable with the term "Eternal Legacy". Gameloft's own website seems to require that one enters a service provider.
With the Transformer being an WiFi only device it doesn't have a service provider.
does anyone know how to get this game working on the transformer?
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See my post here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=13913276&postcount=246
May be good news for your search.
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Then why would you want to support the man?
The only reason why the Market exists is because there are dullards who can't Google the software websites for themselves.
The Market never existed in Windows Mobile, and I was able to find more quality software and information about software than Android.
So to cater to a unwashed masses of retards, software companies have to submit to Google's and Apples dumb down gateway system, letting them restrict freedom thru regulating on what kind of software is allowed and take a cut too.
Like with everything, masses of uninformed people are the single greatest barrier to freedom for everyone.
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At the end of the day, it's all about convenience. If you can't offer that to your market...they aren't going to want the product. It is completely inconvenient for the masses to go to their site, enter MORE billing info, have a game TEXTED to you, download it via a usually broken link, then finally play it.
I was part of the old winmo crew and I fully appreciated downloading software from the companies site...but guess what!? This wonderful concept where all these applications were put in one spot ON MY PHONE with one billing method was invented and gosh darn it, I just think thats a swell place to get my apps!
If they do not want to fall into the market, they're missing 98% of the average phone users in todays world
So yes, Gameloft made a very horrible decision. Lesson here? Don't make your product hard to get.
krighton said:
wonder who their marketing genius is behind this decision....personally will only buy games through the market...it's buggy at times but overall works well. Guess they're trying to build demand for the product. Probably some young hipsters trying to buck the man.
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I wouldn't be surprised if it was something to do with a clash over Gameloft's terrible licensing policy.
I think Gameloft want to optimize its game based on specific hardware.
And I definitely would not complain since:
1. the price is way cheaper compared to the marketplace, (probably the price differs from a country to another)
2. alternative payment option. the games can be paid through telco provider by premium sms charge instead of credit card. Quite convenience.
klau1 said:
The only reason why the Market exists is because there are dullards who can't Google the software websites for themselves.
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klau1 said:
So to cater to a unwashed masses of retards,
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klau1 said:
Like with everything, masses of uninformed people are the single greatest barrier to freedom for everyone.
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Huh? dullards? unwashed masses of retards?
Do you think that possibly there could be intelligent informed users of Android devices who for their own reasons like the Android Market and (gasp) even some of them use the market and other means of getting the apps that they want?
Honestly...this was a pretty ignorant post...
Most of the developers that are protesting the Android market don't like the fact that people can get a refund when they find out that the game sucks.
These developers prefer the Apple market because they can develop crap games and then the consumer is out of luck once they have your money.
Anyway... it's usually about the refund system. Google has cut it back to 15 minutes because enough developers complained, and I'm sure it won't be long before they do away with it altogether.
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Most of the developers that are protesting the Android market don't like the fact that people can get a refund when they find out that the game sucks.
These developers prefer the Apple market because they can develop crap games and then the consumer is out of luck once they have your money.
Anyway... it's usually about the refund system. Google has cut it back to 15 minutes because enough developers complained, and I'm sure it won't be long before they do away with it altogether.
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This whole thought process I think is damning themselves. I know I've been less click happy on buying an app since they lowered the refund time. I had the market bug and not install the app (when it was 24 hours) and I couldn't get it installed until after the refund time was over, so I fear something similar will happen still and I only have 15 minutes to figure it out. If they get rid of it altogether, I'll deal without most paid apps. At the moment I already refuse to pay for an app through amazon because of their policy.
Of course I might not be the majority, but the return policy was a major reason (one of many) why I jumped ship from Apple and went with Android in the first place.

gameloft takes advantage of android users

If you buy a game loft game their policy says you can only play it on the phone you used to buy the game. So if you ever upgrade to a newer phone they will expect you to buy the game all over again.
I bought 3 games from them at 6.99 each days before switching from a G2 to a sensation and can't use them, I contacted gameloft only to be told their policy won't allow me to upgrade my phone and still use their games.
That sounds wrong, I contacted them when I got my Sensation and they gave me all my old games again.
As someone who is looking into a few Gameloft titles but works for T-mo and upgrades my devices about every 3 to 6 months are there more users that can either confirm or deny this?
By rights once you pay for the 'game' you pay for the licence to play it. So changing handsets shouldn't really be a issue - However changing platforms may not be the same as licences are different with iOS and Android. This might be also true in handset make.
Because the game will be coded differently for different handsets then you may need to pay for that version of the game. E.g. I couldn't buy a game for a Apple PC then decide to change to a Windows laptop and expect the supplier to change my version (However some developers may do this but good luck getting through to them)
So in short as long as you go from a HTC where you bought the licence then it should be fine upgrading to another HTC and getting the games - However you may need to obtain the game files yourself. Either copied to a SD card or otherwise.
Hope this helps.
G2x hd2 and sensation only bought em once and emailed then copys for each device.
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i can comfirm you only have one chance at the game, if your phone must be hard reset you will lose your game i bought asphalt 5 along time ago and after every hard reset i enter my google acct and its back in my apps on the market not anymore after i change phones that it must buy it again they have a new policy just check the website also google it and you will see how many people are mad at this you cant even use titanium backup anymore wants you restore and start the game it tells you this is not the original copy
Gameloft needs to change this policy.
if a customer purchased the game and got a new phone in the same platform, they should not be forced to purchase the game again just to be able to play it on their new phone.
I can understand, if say, you were on android and switched to Iphone.
different platform, I wouldn't have a problem paying again since it's on a different platform.
it's like if you bought a game on your PS3 and now got an Xbox, you'd of course would buy the game again that works on the new platform.
being forced to pay again just because you switched your phone(on the same platform) is ridiculous.
they can look you up by your phone number and see your purchase history.
this should be a non issue.
Wont be buying any gameloft games from now on then.
The process of activating a game which you bought from gameloft is send your IMEI to store in server of GL. So, hard reset ->okie, change another phone -> not allow. I think you should contact with support center to find out the solution.
Here's confirmation for you. Read this months back.
http://www.androidguys.com/2011/04/21/gameloft-policies-handcuffing-customers/
Here is a copy of the email reply I got
Unfortunately, you can not re-download the games from one phone to another one. According to Gameloft policy if you buy a game, you can re-download it to the same phone with the same phone number within 3 years of your purchase. If the phone model or number was changed by the customer's own initiative, Gameloft has the right to refuse re-sending the game.
You can not re-download or transfer games which you bought on one phone(G2) to another phone (htc sensation), because we produce each game-build for one particular phone to ensure the best quality and to prevent piracy. If you want to have games on your both phones, I'm afraid you will have to buy them again.
Sorry for the inconveniences. If you have any other questions, please let me know.
So I wrote back and told them that was not cool and got this reply
I'm really very sorry, but I can do nothing in this case. Before purchasing Gameloft games you should have read our terms and conditions at http://www.gameloft.com/conditions/.
I'm sorry for all the inconveniences.
This post a lie i had three phones and got all my games sent to my phone sno questions asked. Don't lie on gameloft there a good company .
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Just call them and they will send your games simple as that.
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bonebeatz1234 said:
This post a lie i had three phones and got all my games sent to my phone sno questions asked. Don't lie on gameloft there a good company .
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its not a lie i cant get my games that i had on my hd2 back even when calling. if its a lie than uninstall your games and try to install the on somthing else i bet it tell you your game is not a valid copy, oh and im talking about the titanium backup it wont let you backup and install your games on another system **** i just tried again yesterday no go you had three phones that was then this is now they dont allow it nomore
why would I even wanna lie about something like this?
Anyone can read the terms and conditions and see for yourself
Either way I'm still pretty mad.
And to the guy who claims to have a phone number could you please post it I'm more than willing to try another channel
They will give you your games i just did it last week and got all my vibrant games that were available for the sensation sent to my phone. Only way they wont send a certain game is if they don't have it for your device. If you need help message me I'll call for you. Not trying to argue but you can get your games man.
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Did you tell them you were running android on your HD2? If not, they may think you want to transfer your WinMo game's license to Android, which they won't do (if they make WinMo games, that is).
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This is true, but gameloft games are so cool!
This is one reason why the iPhone appstore is better than the android market. In the appstore, apple controls how the devs sell their products and they define how many devices (5) you can install your apps. So on your iphone you buy 1 gameloft game and have it installed on your ipod touch, ipad, ipad 2 and your other iphone. cost effective. That is also the reason why most game devs dont develop apps for iphone and ipad but develops them into separate version (HD) so they can milk customers more. In Android, the milking it more rampant and clear. sad.

Order & Chaos update.

Hi guys. As you already know there has been an update for Order & Chaos and everyone had to redownload all the game data again. Now I would like to know if anyone has had problems with it and would like to start a petition for gameloft to sort this out. Without the petition I don't think they will do much to sort there incompitence out. Now I have had a go at gameloft before saying the developers there are like a bunch of children who don't know what they are doing. First it was we couldn't update. Then the game pad stopped working and now for me they have completely broke the game now. Is anyone else experiencing FC issues at startup. I can't even get to logo. I've uninstalled, deleted game data, and tried again and still the same FC. Is anyone else having this problem? Let me know and then if we all are I will make a petition to show gameloft how many upset customers there are and then MAYBE they might fix it properly and hire real developers. Not a load of monkeys making the game. I even said that in my email lol
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Yes, I updated a day ago and I am getting the force close issues, it's really starting to annoy me... When I bought it, it worked fine with the controls and it's just progressively got worse to no longer being able to get the logo up...
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controls never worked for me at all
Controls never worked, paid for sub and never got it, emailed for help - no reply! I really hate gameloft now!
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IF you hate them you know what to do
I'm not gonna mention it here tho
but they make it hard enough to get their games
join the fight against them lol
What do you mean by we know what to do? I'm definitely hesitant to buy Gameloft games again...
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Not getting fc but i got the game thinking i will play it with the pad... and it aint working...
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Yea unplayable game..
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Same thing.
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An update on what is going on. I now have a £599 bill because the runes system from paying on phone bill. Voicemails and emails to them and all I have had is a email saying thanks for the voicemail and they will sort it soon. But we all know what there soon is. By the time they sort anything out I will be terminated with a termination fee. All I say is dont buy runes on your SIM. I have said they have till the 11th to sort it but it will be too late. I need you guys to sign a petition against Gameloft for all the problems they are giving us and the poor CSupport. This should me and you guys get what we deserve. Good games and comp. We all deserve. I will post a link to the petition tomorrow. I need sleep now and please I ask each and every one of you to sign and say what problems you have had. This doesn't just go for O&C. It's all the games they say work but don't.
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Blackwatch
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I got for the same reason as you guys to play it with the controls and nothing works, this really sucks.
There are several thread on GameLofts forums, including mine, regarding the issues not inly with O&C but also all their games. Actually I believe there is a thread that is specifically for Xperia PLAY users and is for all XPLAY users to post their issues and feedback. Everytime I have to contact GL I always tell them how I wish they would reinstate the Xperia PLAY controls on O&C. And of course I always get the typical response "we have passed along your feedback to our developers". Yeah....right.... trash can is probably more like it. But I am hoping if we all combine our efforts and just bug the hell of out them over not only O&C but the other issues we will see something happen because as of now its been GL saying yes we are working on it, we are working on it.... ok then if thats the freaking case why is there not a XPLAY compatable with controls version released? Anyway I'm shutting up now... I just get really angry with them
jgregoryj1 said:
There are several thread on GameLofts forums, including mine, regarding the issues not inly with O&C but also all their games. Actually I believe there is a thread that is specifically for Xperia PLAY users and is for all XPLAY users to post their issues and feedback. Everytime I have to contact GL I always tell them how I wish they would reinstate the Xperia PLAY controls on O&C. And of course I always get the typical response "we have passed along your feedback to our developers". Yeah....right.... trash can is probably more like it. But I am hoping if we all combine our efforts and just bug the hell of out them over not only O&C but the other issues we will see something happen because as of now its been GL saying yes we are working on it, we are working on it.... ok then if thats the freaking case why is there not a XPLAY compatable with controls version released? Anyway I'm shutting up now... I just get really angry with them
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Yeah I posted there. What we all need to do is spam them with phonecalls as that would really annoy them. Surely it's not that hard to implement the controls. All these other game developers do. So why not GL. I even spammed them to the GM of O&C saying I want my £599 back that they unrightfully have of mine. This is ridiculous. And you know what the weirdest thing is. When I left a voicemail I only left my phone number. No account no email. And guess what. I got an email instead of a call saying this.
"Thank you for contacting Gameloft support. We have received your voicemail and have passed it to the admin team as an urgent request. Expect to here from them soon."
Well surprise surprise I have had no call for over a week now. And it is looking highly likely my contract will be terminated with an extra £674 on top of the £599. Stupid stupid chimps are working for them. A**holes. I hate them now. I even said I won't be buying anymore games from them and many others don't want too. Anyways.
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Blackwatch
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