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This topic is intended for those few Motorola XT720 users.
As you well know, Motorola, in their infinite wisdom, have created a gimped phone that seems to have mostly problems about it rather than advantages.
For a start, they have underclocked the CPU from its possible theoretical maximum of 1GHz to a paltry 550 MHz (and the update only unlocked an on-demand setting of up to 720 MHz). Secondly, the included launcher is actually inferior to both stock Vanilla Eclair and most other 3rd party launchers. It is sluggish and never quite feels smooth (especially so when browsing your apps or switching panels).
So what is the solution to the above problems and how to make your XT720 truly fly and feel comparable to most any other high-end smartphone? Simple, I say!
I won't tell you how to do these steps, but I can provide info and know-how-to if people ask me to:
0) Install Astro File Manager from the Market.
1) Root your device. Use Universal Androoter to do this. Try to go for latest possible version you can find. Your phone will not be able to find it on the Market so try Google.
2) Go to http://code.google.com/p/milestone-overclock/ and download the basic program to overclock your XT720. The program allows you to do 'real' (actual) overclock of up to 1.2 GHz, but your CPU will be unstable in this speed. Instead, opt for 1GHz, which is not a 'real' overclock, since the Texas Instr. CPU inside your phone is actually able to run at this speed natively.
3) Download SetCPU or get it from XDA.
Have it 'automatically' configure / find your CPU speed and then set it up as such:
Make sure the upscale governor is set to at least 85. Mine is at 86.
a) Fully Charged / Plugged In: Min/Max at 1000MHz (Performance) [55]
b) Below 40% Min 550 / Max 1000 (On Demand) [60]
c) Below 20% Min 500 / Max 550 (On Demand) [65]
d) While Screen Turned Off Min 150 / Max 500 (On Demand) [70]
Make sure all settings are set to 'Enable' and 'auto-run' is checked.
4) Download Zeam Today Launcher from the Market. It is free. Install it and press Home. Try it once to be sure and safe, but afterwards make sure you set it to 'default' (so that it launches as the default launcher).
Restart your phone and voila. Enjoy XT720 as you never have before.....
I have an HTC Desire and a Samsung Galaxy S and I promise you that my XT720 feels (almost) as snappy as they, and that's a huge difference in improvement, given that I felt that the XT720 was one of the sluggiest phones I had ever have to experience! Now it can finally unlock its full potential.
EDIT: Realised I accidentally posted this in the wrong subsections. This was done unintentionally. Please can some mod move it to the 'General' section?
Thanks for your post, grcd! Just some questions...
Do all 0 to 4 have to be done, & in that order? Or can I choose any?
What is Astro File Manager for? Is it needed to do 1 to 4?
Edit: ok, so 2 & 3 need root. But are 0 & 4 necessary or only recommended?
Edit: ok, I can choose among different file managers for 0, & among different launchers for 4.
& I can't find a single appropriate page on universal androoter on google? Except your post.
Edit: oops, found universal androot! Sorry, noob
very usefull
thanx
My friend just got one of these and I've been trying to find some good resources but can't seem to turn anything up.
Are them any development forums for this model out there? And are there any custom roms out or is the stock rom, rooted, overclocked with cleaned up the bloatware the best you can get?
civicvx94 said:
My friend just got one of these and I've been trying to find some good resources but can't seem to turn anything up.
Are them any development forums for this model out there? And are there any custom roms out or is the stock rom, rooted, overclocked with cleaned up the bloatware the best you can get?
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XT720 bootloader is locked and currently there's no known method to attack it. So, no custom ROMs. For Optimization, check the below link. You'll need to root your phone first (either One Click Root via PC or using Universal Androot apk).
this optimizer script got Busybox, Apps2SD, JIT from Froyo, custom build.prop, removing unnecessary apps and custom themes.
Code:
http://www.droidforums.net/forum/motorola-milestone-xt720/74284-guide-milestone-xt720-apps2sd-froyo-jit.html
App2sd is a must, the internal memory for this phone is too small. I even put a class 10 micro sd in it.
Thanks for the optimization link, spiderx_mm! I'll do that too but it will take me a bit longer to be confident in doing that.
Meanwhile, the overclocking++ advice above seemed to help at the start, but little by little, my XT720 was lagging again, & lagging longer & longer. Does this happen to others?
I'm also encountering weird problems, like Dolphin Browser HD 4.2 tabs reloading from the web even for conditions when it's supposed to reload from the cache. So I'm also trying to reverse the process tio isolate the problem, but I have a few questions.
Once the setcpu modifications are done, can I unroot? It seems to me no, because I would think root is needed to change the clock on the fly? But if I simply overclock without using setcpu, then it seems to me that I can unroot without undoing the overclock changes?
While at this, is there an important sequence to follow to reverse the whole process? Do I have to set setcpu to the clock that I want to revert to before reverting the clock? I would experiment on my own except for the risk of bricking
Tia!
@grcd Will this improve camera response and hd video recording quality?
@spider thanks for the link. I'll give that a shot. I'm assuming since it hasn't been done yet, that no one is working to unlock the bootloader?
@reggie you will most definitely need to retain root to use setcpu. The app setcpu is what's actually changing the scaling itself, that's why there's the 'set at boot' option, bc the app has to set it everytime. Because the kernel just has overclock capabilities, but not overclocked by default, you will always need setcpu or a similar app to do the actual overclock. Why would you want to unroot anyways? If your having issues, I would recommend using system panel for a few days and see if somethings bogging your system down, it has great monitoring functions. I've yet to do the optimization, but I can't imagine anything there is what's causing you to have lag issues..
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reggiehg said:
Thanks for your post, grcd! Just some questions...
Do all 0 to 4 have to be done, & in that order? Or can I choose any?
What is Astro File Manager for? Is it needed to do 1 to 4?
Edit: ok, so 2 & 3 need root. But are 0 & 4 necessary or only recommended?
Edit: ok, I can choose among different file managers for 0, & among different launchers for 4.
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You can replace it with any other file explorer of your like and choice. The basic idea is to get root, and using Universal Androoter is the only way I know of for the XT7220 that is user friendly. Afterwards the rest is simple, using the overclocking app and SetCPU.
civicvx94 said:
My friend just got one of these and I've been trying to find some good resources but can't seem to turn anything up.
Are them any development forums for this model out there? And are there any custom roms out or is the stock rom, rooted, overclocked with cleaned up the bloatware the best you can get?
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No, see answer below.
spiderx_mm said:
XT720 bootloader is locked and currently there's no known method to attack it. So, no custom ROMs. For Optimization, check the below link. You'll need to root your phone first (either One Click Root via PC or using Universal Androot apk).
this optimizer script got Busybox, Apps2SD, JIT from Froyo, custom build.prop, removing unnecessary apps and custom themes.
Code:
http://www.droidforums.net/forum/motorola-milestone-xt720/74284-guide-milestone-xt720-apps2sd-froyo-jit.html
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I have also been looking into this optimizing script. Will try it and hopefully it improves things even more.
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Thanks for the optimization link, spiderx_mm! I'll do that too but it will take me a bit longer to be confident in doing that.
Meanwhile, the overclocking++ advice above seemed to help at the start, but little by little, my XT720 was lagging again, & lagging longer & longer. Does this happen to others?
I'm also encountering weird problems, like Dolphin Browser HD 4.2 tabs reloading from the web even for conditions when it's supposed to reload from the cache. So I'm also trying to reverse the process tio isolate the problem, but I have a few questions.
Once the setcpu modifications are done, can I unroot? It seems to me no, because I would think root is needed to change the clock on the fly? But if I simply overclock without using setcpu, then it seems to me that I can unroot without undoing the overclock changes?
While at this, is there an important sequence to follow to reverse the whole process? Do I have to set setcpu to the clock that I want to revert to before reverting the clock? I would experiment on my own except for the risk of bricking
Tia!
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I noticed that too, so my initial excitement wore off. It seems that I was a bit wrong and some XT7220 devices will not happily run at 1GHz without some lag issues. Try lowering your speed to the next step down and see if that helps -- this might mean running at 800MHz, which is a mere 80MHz overclock, but whatever).
The optimizer script might help speed some things further up. But I haven't tried it yet. Also, Apps2SD will definately help as the phone has little internal memory, so the more apps that are there then the slowest things will get over time.
I am not sure of the ways to unroot to be entirely honest, but I guess you have to check FAQs for Universal Androoter to see if the process is reversable. As about the rest, it is quite simple: Just uninstall SetCPU (it might help to return the clock to its normal speed, but uninstalling it will do it anyway I suppose), and then use the Milestone Overclock to return the speeds to the stock speeds. Then uninstall that too.
bimmerboii said:
@grcd Will this improve camera response and hd video recording quality?
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AFAIK it will not. Or it might, but the differences are negligible. I am afraid that unless there is a custom ROM or a complete kernel hack, significant improvements in the camera department might be hard to come by.
It's very sad how badly Motorola dropped the ball with this phone. I admit I gave up on it and sold it to a friend for cheap.
I am not sure of the ways to unroot
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The Universal Androot app has 1 click unroot.
Indeed it is better... ive used setCPU for since i first starting modding, and recently a friend turned me onto SystemTunerPRO & i gotta say its a million times better!
OC's ALWAYS stay, never gets killed by the system, UV's correctly, and has awesome organization!
Has the ability to controll what apps launch on boot, control memory usage, edit the MinFree settings, adjust the task-killer, just wow... yeah too much to say.
I suggest this WAY OVER setCPU... you should check it out...
https://market.android.com/details?...ult#?t=W251bGwsMSwyLDEsImNjYzcxLnBtdy5wcm8iXQ..
(if you dont want to pay the measly $5... Google for it)
-or if you use something better... tell us about it.
Imho, if you like the app and use it, you should just pay for it. The author has put time and effort into the product that has benefited you. The money he gets may inspire him to make more or better products.
Bought this immediately.
It trumps; Taskiller, SetCPU, Startup Auditor & Titanium Backup. I've uninstalled all off those.
It's an all-in-one interface with very simple and direct options. Not recommended for Android newbs. This can and will brick your **** if you don't know what you're doing. I love it. Excellent app.
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Voltage Control also works well.
Brainze said:
Bought this immediately.
It trumps; Taskiller, SetCPU, Startup Auditor & Titanium Backup. I've uninstalled all off those.
It's an all-in-one interface with very simple and direct options. Not recommended for Android newbs. This can and will brick your **** if you don't know what you're doing. I love it. Excellent app.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I997 using xda premium
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1. task killers kill your battery, not your tasks
- by killing tasks, you are forcing android to kill then reload applications that would normally save more battery by being left in system memory (this removes the need to reload data)
2. what about system tuner pro makes it better than TiBU??
Simba501 said:
Voltage Control works very well also.
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3. yes. VC is by far the easiest to use and if you use it correctly(usually by itself), you will have no problems
4. system tuner is a heavy user of system resource...the ONLY feature i've found that it has that others dont (at least i havent found a replacement yet) is its ability to display current CPU frequency...i used system tuner pro alot when i was undervolting my cpu and stress testing so i could see how hard the phone was working
The *Nix philosophy: Do one thing and do it well. I used System Tuner and found it's interface to be awful/ugly, and didn't really fulfill any need that a more focused app didn't. System Tuner really can't do all the things TiBu can, and voltage settings should never be "killed" by your phone since they're written to file.
I still prefer SetCPU. I like an app to be organized and the one you recommend is not. It's messy and sloppy.
There is NO backup app that comes close to being as perfect and bad ass as Titanium Backup.
Can't get STP to save on reboot completed
Hope this thread still attracts some attention, so I don't have to clutter up threads with a new on on same program
Using Bricked V5 kernel and Insert Coin Sense 4 Beta 12 ROM
Both STP and Antutus' CPU Master do not save selected settings (max / min speed, voltages etc) over reboots, although this is selected (on STP have "on boot completed" selected, and on CPU Master it's a tickbox as with SetCPU)
Only SetCPU saves my preferences over reboot.
Can anyone tell me how to overcome this. In particular I want STP to work over restarts, so I can tweak voltages as well as clock speeds
Edit: Oh dang I found this thread searching for STP, and overlooked it is a Samsung thread,. Doh!. Will repost in Sensation forum
jesterpaul said:
Hope this thread still attracts some attention, so I don't have to clutter up threads with a new on on same program
Using Bricked V5 kernel and Insert Coin Sense 4 Beta 12 ROM
Both STP and Antutus' CPU Master do not save selected settings (max / min speed, voltages etc) over reboots, although this is selected (on STP have "on boot completed" selected, and on CPU Master it's a tickbox as with SetCPU)
Only SetCPU saves my preferences over reboot.
Can anyone tell me how to overcome this. In particular I want STP to work over restarts, so I can tweak voltages as well as clock speeds
Edit: Oh dang I found this thread searching for STP, and overlooked it is a Samsung thread,. Doh!. Will repost in Sensation forum
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lol.
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scottx . said:
I still prefer SetCPU. I like an app to be organized and the one you recommend is not. It's messy and sloppy.
There is NO backup app that comes close to being as perfect and bad ass as Titanium Backup.
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TB dev started developping this app when Android started existing and receives a lot of support from Google. Yes it's far more advanced: the only feature that STP doesn't have (yet ) is the multi-version backups.
Messy and sloppy... Maybe, a matter of opinion and taste. No question on that.
jesterpaul said:
Both STP and Antutus' CPU Master do not save selected settings (max / min speed, voltages etc) over reboots, although this is selected (on STP have "on boot completed" selected, and on CPU Master it's a tickbox as with SetCPU)
Only SetCPU saves my preferences over reboot.
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Interesting... Have you contacted the devs of those apps to see if they can help? When you tested these, did you kept all 3 apps installed and configured?
I believe everyone is entitled to have preference, but know one thing for all 3 devs it's the same complexity: every kernel, every phone behaves differently. Not to mention ROMs or even possible user errors.
And as you have a Sensation, STP was partly developped on this device, and this device requires a specific work-around to be able to read and write CPU settings!
If you do want STP to work and are willing to spend a little time investigating, contact the dev I know him and he will do everything to help (I know cause it's me).
adalgiso said:
The *Nix philosophy: Do one thing and do it well. I used System Tuner and found it's interface to be awful/ugly, and didn't really fulfill any need that a more focused app didn't. System Tuner really can't do all the things TiBu can, and voltage settings should never be "killed" by your phone since they're written to file.
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2 philosophy: some users prefers all in one apps, some prefers app that focus on one thing.
My 2 cents: the more apps, the more consumption you get. The worth example is apps reading battery data... If you have one that reads it ok, if you have 5 apps: 5 times the consumption.
Noted a user saying a task killer is bad: if you know how to configure it it's much better than the Android integrated one which will kill widget apps at will and blindly or even apps you use frequently but will always leave Google's app running even you never use them!
And STP can configure its own task-killer and the OOM Android integrated one.
STP is less than one year old, and is only my second app in Java and on Android. Still a lot to add to it, and still some imperfections, but working on it.
Now I fully understand all opinions expressed here. They are very reasonable too.
Let's meet in a year from now and see if I can change your opinion on this.
In the mean time, enjoy your apps or my apps preferably
I have grown to like all in one apps, such as this (system tuner) there is another that I'd like to point out called ROM toolbox, I use it for everything, back up apps, root browser, ad manager, boot animation installer, voltage controller, mem controller, ect. It's nearly got a function for everything, and I think people should take a look at it, it's nice, and all my stuff would be lost without it
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Looking for tweaks for system tuner pro.
I'm using system tuner pro on my Galaxy Tab 10.1 and really enjoy it so far. I also use Titanium Backup and SetCPU which both do exactly what I need them to. I use stp mainly for the ability to monitor my cpu, memory, ect. I am looking for tweaks to set to get my tablet running even smoother. Right now I'm running stock HC 3.2 ROM with pershoot's kernel oc to 1.4ghz. What can I do in stp to optimize my settings further? Changes to governor, on demand? SD cache size and IO scheduler? That type of thing. I would appreciate any helpful tips especially since the developer has been on this thread and seems to be very helpful. Thanks.
Bigzinewicz said:
I'm using system tuner pro on my Galaxy Tab 10.1 and really enjoy it so far. I also use Titanium Backup and SetCPU which both do exactly what I need them to. I use stp mainly for the ability to monitor my cpu, memory, ect. I am looking for tweaks to set to get my tablet running even smoother. Right now I'm running stock HC 3.2 ROM with pershoot's kernel oc to 1.4ghz. What can I do in stp to optimize my settings further? Changes to governor, on demand? SD cache size and IO scheduler? That type of thing. I would appreciate any helpful tips especially since the developer has been on this thread and seems to be very helpful. Thanks.
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You can find some tips to get you started here: http://www.3c71.com/android/?q=node/64#main-content-area
3c said:
You can find some tips to get you started here: http://www.3c71.com/android/?q=node/64#main-content-area
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Thanks was looking for a site to learn more about this app! I am a new user to the andriod platform and find this app a great resource. Thanks for the great app and keep up the great work. :good:
Cheers
p.s. I have the Pro version
Great App thankyou .
I'm new-ish to using this as my main control app,although I bought it over a year ago,but unless your almost Of dev standard it can get a bit confusing, it's looking and is easier to use now smart phone screens are alot bigger.
I do still use T.B for certain things it is already setup with old backups and cloud feature use,I realize this app can do most but I've always used T.B.
Anyway my question probably easy but I'm using a dual core cpu but can't find how to change cpu1, I can change cpu 0 and see the frequecies for both but only the sliders for cpu0!
I've just thought my phone is rooted but locked bootloader so maybe because I'm using stock kernel maybe it's only letting me change 1cpu?
Its not even showing sliders for 2nd cpu though . e
Any help appreciated.
I'll probably need more help but I want to get this sorted 1st .
Since I stopped using multi task killers ,auto memory killer pro,cpu control (set cpu ) n so on, now using System Tuner Pro, Juice Defender Plus and Tit Backup Pro that's all I'm able to find then address issues so much easier.
Also Dev is very helpful ,I left Comment on play review and was emailed within a day ,so thanks A1 customer service .Thank dev and any one who can help me.
thank you for your mind bendingly difficult work on this app!
3c said:
TB dev started developping this app when Android started existing and receives a lot of support from Google. Yes it's far more advanced: the only feature that STP doesn't have (yet ) is the multi-version backups.
Messy and sloppy... Maybe, a matter of opinion and taste. No question on that.
Interesting... Have you contacted the devs of those apps to see if they can help? When you tested these, did you kept all 3 apps installed and configured?
I believe everyone is entitled to have preference, but know one thing for all 3 devs it's the same complexity: every kernel, every phone behaves differently. Not to mention ROMs or even possible user errors.
And as you have a Sensation, STP was partly developped on this device, and this device requires a specific work-around to be able to read and write CPU settings!
If you do want STP to work and are willing to spend a little time investigating, contact the dev I know him and he will do everything to help (I know cause it's me).
2 philosophy: some users prefers all in one apps, some prefers app that focus on one thing.
My 2 cents: the more apps, the more consumption you get. The worth example is apps reading battery data... If you have one that reads it ok, if you have 5 apps: 5 times the consumption.
Noted a user saying a task killer is bad: if you know how to configure it it's much better than the Android integrated one which will kill widget apps at will and blindly or even apps you use frequently but will always leave Google's app running even you never use them!
And STP can configure its own task-killer and the OOM Android integrated one.
STP is less than one year old, and is only my second app in Java and on Android. Still a lot to add to it, and still some imperfections, but working on it.
Now I fully understand all opinions expressed here. They are very reasonable too.
Let's meet in a year from now and see if I can change your opinion on this.
In the mean time, enjoy your apps or my apps preferably
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DEEEZZO!! Damn Dogs, yall just got served! HAHAHA:laugh:
seriously though, I know this is an older thread, hopefully someone listening. I had some questions about what a few thing meant in system tuner pro...which I think is a super hero app. I have only recently discovered that my lg thrill is a power and complicated device, even though I,ve had for over a year. before it was just a really cool phone. In the past two months I have bricked I have bricked on of my phones or the other
11 times-i bought another one so i wouldn't have to worry about not having a phone-half a dozen of those times was exploring system tuner settings. while I am a pro at flashing and recovery, i know virtually nothing about my device, and would love to know what some of these settings do. how to optimize her for each of the different ways I use her. that said, what is the difference between default and recommended setting in sys con?
pollutedmuse said:
DEEEZZO!! Damn Dogs, yall just got served! HAHAHA:laugh:
seriously though, I know this is an older thread, hopefully someone listening. I had some questions about what a few thing meant in system tuner pro...which I think is a super hero app. I have only recently discovered that my lg thrill is a power and complicated device, even though I,ve had for over a year. before it was just a really cool phone. In the past two months I have bricked I have bricked on of my phones or the other
11 times-i bought another one so i wouldn't have to worry about not having a phone-half a dozen of those times was exploring system tuner settings. while I am a pro at flashing and recovery, i know virtually nothing about my device, and would love to know what some of these settings do. how to optimize her for each of the different ways I use her. that said, what is the difference between default and recommended setting in sys con?
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The default is what's been configured on the Kernel installed, either by manufacturer or dev on XDA. The recommended is actually some settings that have "proven" to work on most devices. Make sure to have a NANDROID backup or a way to recover in case it doesn't work for you. Once applied you can review the changes (they appear in blue) and reset them as you wish. It also resets completely on reboot to be safe, until you press the 'on boot' button to restore them on each reboot.
PS: If you like System Tuner, you might love Android Tuner, the merging of System Tuner and Battery Monitor Widget. If so there's a special offer/discount for existing users.
In the market? Or can I purchase direct from your site (preferred).
What is the function of the I/O scheduler and the difference between noop/deadline/cfq?
BTW, I don't just like STP I love it! I'm constantly fiddling with it. Seems like a very complicated project. I will get the other after I submit this post and check it out. Thanks bro!
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pollutedmuse said:
In the market? Or can I purchase direct from your site (preferred).
What is the function of the I/O scheduler and the difference between noop/deadline/cfq?
BTW, I don't just like STP I love it! I'm constantly fiddling with it. Seems like a very complicated project. I will get the other after I submit this post and check it out. Thanks bro!
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Most of my apps can only be purchased on Play Market for now. Android Tuner is available on SlideME now, which offers various payment methods (PayPal, Amazon, etc).
I used to sell on AndroidPIT, but they are very bad for business so I stopped, and I would strongly recommend not to purchase with them, only means troubles. SlideME offers guarantees like on PlayStore, which AP doesn't.
That said, I might publish my other apps on SlideME if it turns out well.
As for IO scheduler, it's the way the kernel will organize (schedule) IO operations on SD cards, noop, deadline and cfq are the most frequently available and used. deadline is said to be the most effective in a multi-tasking environment, whereas noop might create lags in some circumstances. Opinion and experiences differ largely, so might be best to test them.
PS: I would be happy to sell direct, but that requires an infrastructure I don't have. Relying on PlayStore or other distributor makes it easy to publish and also distributes updates.
Thank you sir, the only reason I was wondering about an alternative place of purchase is because, well long story short, my buddy shared a launcher apk with me and the play store got into my phone and froze not only the app, but my whole phone. After reboot all was fine minus the app. I guess it seemed kind of like a search and siezure with out a warrant. I felt a bit slighted and thought I would run an experiment and see if I can produce a comparable experience with all my various types of tech mediums without a single shred of google interface of any kind....I have to admit, it is not easy, they have really intertwined themselves with eanything. No, I'm not paranoid, just trying something new.
BTW, GOOD FN JOB WITH AT!!! Quite an amazing job you have done, any others besides the two? You ought somehow do a game of sorts, like an android app building or developer challenge/puzzle type thing with the purpose of training greenhorns interested in learning and honing veteran skills as well. Sorry for the spam, again thanks, and nice work.
Ps, I did relapse a lil and purchase AT from google...sshhh, don't tell anyone!haha
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I'm sure this question has been answered quite a lot of times on the forums here, but I'd simply like to gather all useful tips for extending my Android device's battery life, from the well-known "Turn off Wi-Fi when you're not around your hotspot" to "Allow only a few background services to run reducing CPU activity etc".
Just simple tweaks that do not require flashing any ROMs or root access in the first place.
Thanks!
devizegr said:
I'm sure this question has been answered quite a lot of times on the forums here, but I'd simply like to gather all useful tips for extending my Android device's battery life, from the well-known "Turn off Wi-Fi when you're not around your hotspot" to "Allow only a few background services to run reducing CPU activity etc".
Just simple tweaks that do not require flashing any ROMs or root access in the first place.
Thanks!
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Nothing will be as powerfull as rooting your device (I know you didn't want to hear this kind of answer... )
BUT may be u can use some informations:
- Turn mobile network to "2G"
- Disable autosync
- Lower brightness of display
- Reduce "display stay active" time
- When u have an AMOLED display, use a "black" skin for your rom
- Disable wifi notification
- "disable wifi"
- "Allow only a few background services to run"
A real improvement will be:
- root
- uninstall all the stupid preinstalled crap of your stockrom
- disable autostarts you dont need
- may be disable wakelocks of apps you need and which act a lot on their own
- install a kernel which allows you control cpu settings --> Scheduler/Governor + CPU frequencies (lowering CPU freq)
- or setting cpu freq profiles automatically + undervolt system
misc:
get a stronger battery
I hope other members will add some or many more usefull tips
LS.xD said:
Nothing will be as powerfull as rooting your device (I know you didn't want to hear this kind of answer... )
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Truth is my device is already rooted with a custom ROM which isn't very stable and it is still in development. This is why I'm asking for a few tips. The battery life is already awful and I don't want to mess up with any system files so just basic tips that will do the trick are needed.
devizegr said:
Truth is my device is already rooted with a custom ROM which isn't very stable and it is still in development. This is why I'm asking for a few tips. The battery life is already awful and I don't want to mess up with any system files so just basic tips that will do the trick are needed.
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Why you don't tell me phone type and the rom u actually use?
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Why you don't tell me phone type and the rom u actually use?
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Sony Xperia Sola w/ Unofficial CM11
http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-u/sola-development/rom-unofficial-cyanogenmod-11-0-t2627210
devizegr said:
Sony Xperia Sola w/ Unofficial CM11
http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-u/sola-development/rom-unofficial-cyanogenmod-11-0-t2627210
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This CM11 version? --> http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-u/sola-development/rom-unofficial-cyanogenmod-11-0-t2627210
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This CM11 version? --> http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-u/sola-development/rom-unofficial-cyanogenmod-11-0-t2627210
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Yes! I am aware that there is already a battery life issue even on Nexus 5 so no matter what ROM it is, if it is baed on 4.4.2 it's going to have battery issues.
devizegr said:
Yes! I am aware that there is already a battery life issue even on Nexus 5 so no matter what ROM it is, if it is baed on 4.4.2 it's going to have battery issues.
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I use HTC One S + Samsung Galaxy W and both run 4.4.2 and are stable to use also battery life is ok to me
I'm using greenify and lux (brightness app which enable you to make the screen even dimmer). These two apps make my phone last longer
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Hello guys,
I am happy to share some ways to decrease battery drain for which is problem for most poco stock miui non root users:
1- Go to every app you don't want on background (always active) and make it (restricted backgroud activity) through Settings-Manage app-choose your app-battery saver
2- For system app: you can do the same by going Settings-Manage app-choose your app-permissions-information icon-battery-choose first option and then restrict app
3- Network signals some times drains battery alot, you could decrease it by changing network bands by the following:
Go to dialer and write (*#*#4636#*#*)-phone information-set preferred network-choose LTE\CDMA\UMTS auto prl (tested on global rom was good), note that you need to change it again after every reboot
4- Disable adaptive limit battery option through Setting-battery&perfomance
5-Activate force close button through Setting-additional setting-buttons&gestures-close current app and choose shortcut you want, then at any app you should force close when you are finished with it.
6- Go to every MIUI app and disable automatic updates and recommendation receive
7- Disable location when you are finished through Setting-additional settings-privacy-location and also disable wifi scanning after every disable
8- Go to Google app through Settings-Google and disable every activity on it as you can
9- Install Greenify app from store and work with (non root device) and hibernate all apps you don't need as background
10- Disable automatic brightness, and also decrease the brightness as you can to save power
11- Go to settings-additional settings-privacy-special access-Battery optimization and then make all apps (optimized)
12-Go to settings-additional settings-authorization&revocation and then disable all apps except (updater-system app updater-feedback-battery&performance-Xiaomi sim activation-settings)
I hope these steps could help you and I'm waiting your comments for additional ways or correcting anything
Any review or test results ?
Just wondering wtf is even benefit of 4000mah battery if we need to disable every single app to get battery life. It's their optimisation not good with the latest stable build of miui
Hemudon said:
Just wondering wtf is even benefit of 4000mah battery if we need to disable every single app to get battery life. It's their optimisation not good with the latest stable build of miui
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I think this is from Android system itself due to alot of system app running on backgroud
Hemudon said:
Just wondering wtf is even benefit of 4000mah battery if we need to disable every single app to get battery life. It's their optimisation not good with the latest stable build of miui
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Its not their thing its an android thing. It gets heavier with every update, and since they (its a good thing gone bad) made a lot of those updates standalone of android version it makes like old tablets unusable over the yeras unlike them ipads.
That being said, the advantage of having 4000mah battery is that you still get through every day and have more than the usual midrange 3000mah phone. I get through any day for weeks now even playing games. The tips in this thread are awesome and apply to any phone.
I might as well advise you to clean your USB type-c port once in a while with toothpick since dusts can cause unnecessary wakelocks to your device
whrynox said:
I might as well advise you to clean your USB type-c port once in a while with toothpick since dusts can cause unnecessary wakelocks to your device
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so strange
magaedy said:
so strange
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Dust in the port really causes wakelocks. For proof, visit the BBS thread.
next guide will include stop using the phone and turning it off completely
Instead of doing all these, just spend a few bucks and get a powerbank.
magaedy said:
Hello guys,
I am happy to share some ways to decrease battery drain for which is problem for most poco stock miui non root users:
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Hi magaedy, this list is very useful thank you very much.
Thanks to a RF detector, i found out that my Poco was emitting very often without being sollicited, now I know what to try first.
(In case you are interested in my setup, you can have a look on YouTube searching JaMa6iK4lbM).
Again thanks a lot, this forum is really interesting.
Regards.
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Hi magaedy, this list is very useful thank you very much.
Thanks to a RF detector, i found out that my Poco was emitting very often without being sollicited, now I know what to try first.
(In case you are interested in my setup, you can have a look on YouTube searching JaMa6iK4lbM).
Again thanks a lot, this forum is really interesting.
Regards.
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I saw your video and cannot completely understand as it is very advanced but what I want to ask is if poco is emiting waves too much to be harmful on our health ?????
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I saw your video and cannot completely understand as it is very advanced but what I want to ask is if poco is emiting waves too much to be harmful on our health ?????
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Hi magaedy, no, the Pocophone F1 has nothing special regarding its RF electromagnetic radiation, it is just that I own one and that I can do some tests with it. In terms of SAR (Specific Absorption Rate), the Poco even complies with the FCC threshold which is the most stringent.
As a personal point view, i would just avoid to keep it onto my body when i must upload big files, or onto my head for long phone calls, especially when i'm not sure about the RF coverage (bad coverage implies that the mobile emits at its full power, which is e.g. 2 watts in GSM 900).
Depending on my LED light, now I can tell for sure
Rgds,
GBoTwice
smatm said:
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I want that suggestion. Gonna try it now
1.Uninstall unused apps
2.Force stop every app
3.turn on airplane mode when u r not use phn.
4.stop few sensor-brightness,gyro,ambient(if there is any software to stop sensor forcefully pls reffer)
5.User suggest BO,i suggest battery optimize must be off
6.use magisk lkt-battery
7.*DONT PLAY PUBG* its a battery hunger demon.
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Very funny.
I like this recommendation very much.:fingers-crossed:
Cheers
sssyraj.
I would also wanted to add some battery saving tips:
1. Stick to only one, either Google or MIUI, cloud sync provider then disable everything you don't need on the other.
2. Go to Settings -> Permissions -> Other permissions -> Permissions (tab) -> Start in Background. Only choose the apps that you wanted permissions to receive notifications or third-party sync apps regularly. Others should be disabled. (IDK if this conflicts with MIUI's battery saver but I did it anyway).
3. Disable Double tap to wake or enable it in combination with pocket mode.
4. Put your phone on your pocket with display facing your leg. Prevents false trigger of FP scanner.
I have another suggestion. If using a custom ROM, don't install GApps. Instead use MicroG . I haven't done a side by side comparison, and I'll admit my usage today has been fairly lite, but so far my battery life is great!
I'm running the latest AOSiP ROM.
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I have another suggestion. If using a custom ROM, don't install GApps. Instead use MicroG . I haven't done a side by side comparison, and I'll admit my usage today has been fairly lite, but so far my battery life is great!
I'm running the latest AOSiP ROM.
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Dude could you please send me the link of microG please?
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Dude could you please send me the link of microG please?
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I use the MicroG zip from here:
https://downloads.nanolx.org/NanoDroid/Beta/
If you also flash the f-droid zip, you should also install the f-droid extension module through Magisk.
Hello I'm looking for Set CPU but all links to Google Play Store appear to be broken, would like a reliable link for this app. Or is this app outdated? In that case would like suggestions for any other app for over locking of CPU. Bear in mind that I am new to the concept. Thanks in advance
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Hello I'm looking for Set CPU but all links to Google Play Store appear to be broken, would like a reliable link for this app. Or is this app outdated? In that case would like suggestions for any other app for over locking of CPU. Bear in mind that I am new to the concept. Thanks in advance
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Many Smart Pack kernel manager ( my favorite), FKM kernel manager , Ex Kernel manager .
This is a useless app made by Vietnamese people (I'm Vietnamese). It cannot overclock which many people mistakenly believe, and it only has the task of limiting the CPU speed, the CPU speed is managed by the OS and limiting it is a bad way because no matter what task it does it will be slowed down. When idle the CPU will automatically reduce its voltage and speed by OS. Any process no matter how big or small with high CPU speed it will be processed very fast even with small tasks that are reported not to use up CPU but it will still be faster than a slower CPU. Kernel Auditor is also useless.
SetCPU is only usefull if you have a modded kernel with added clocks (some of wich may be way to high for you device so need to be blocked to prevent crashes) and i used this version https://www.mobileapkfree.com/apk/setcpu-for-root-users IT MAY BE MODIFIED AND HAVE A VIRUS OR SOME **** so use at your own risk.