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Question about CWM before ICS update

I just rooted my TF101 using ViperMod but now I'm not sure whether I should install CWM recovery or not if I want to install further OTAs. I have read some threads but couldn't come up with a clear answer. I read somewhere that only stock recovery can receive OTA updates but also read that CWM can receive them too. If I can't install CWM then what ROMs can I install with stock recovery? What's the best way to go if I want to be ready for the ICS? Thanks!!

theremix said:
I just rooted my TF101 using ViperMod but now I'm not sure whether I should install CWM recovery or not if I want to install further OTAs. I have read some threads but couldn't come up with a clear answer. I read somewhere that only stock recovery can receive OTA updates but also read that CWM can receive them too. If I can't install CWM then what ROMs can I install with stock recovery? What's the best way to go if I want to be ready for the ICS? Thanks!!
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Technically you'll still receive the OTA update you just can't apply it if you have CWM or a custom ROM installed.
You can't install custom ROM without CWM (if you have an older SBK tablet you can use NVFlash with a compatible ROM).

So I shouldn't install cwm until the ICS drops right?
Sent from my Transformer TF101 using Tapatalk

If you want to update to ICS via OTA don't instal CWM.
As you have been told, you will get the OTA message but the update will fail.
So you have two choices (or three):
* Keep stock recovery and update to ICS when the OTA update is available
* Install CWM and update to ICS as soon as a DEV publishes an ICS ROM
* Install CWM and remove it as soon as you know the OTA is due (pretty lame, but you could do it).
Regards.

CalvinH said:
If you want to update to ICS via OTA don't instal CWM.
As you have been told, you will get the OTA message but the update will fail.
So you have two choices (or three):
* Keep stock recovery and update to ICS when the OTA update is available
* Install CWM and update to ICS as soon as a DEV publishes an ICS ROM
* Install CWM and remove it as soon as you know the OTA is due (pretty lame, but you could do it).
Regards.
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Thanks, I think I'll just wait for the OTA as I want to update as soon as ICS drops in.
Sent from my PC36100 using Tapatalk

I have a question about removing CWR. Actually 2.
1. Can't we just uninstall and wipe data with Titanium since it was installed as an .apk- from Gnufabio? (pretty sure this won't work but thought I would throw it out there anyways). Where is the recovery located on a tablet (what folders) Same as in phones?
2. Can we just flash the stock recovery by itself and not reset back to .13 or younger? If I am running stock ROM, it seems that I should be able to just reflash the stock recovery and replace it w/o changing the ROM or factory reset.
I have no problem doing it the long way but if it doesn't need to be done and we can replace the CWR with stock and not tamper with the ROM, it seems logical.
Clearly I just got the tab recently and have been reading and reading but they seem so much different than the way phones work. I am very comfortable flashing ROMs/Kernels/Mods on phones, but just a little intimidated with the tablet (for now).

Woodrube said:
I have a question about removing CWR. Actually 2.
1. Can't we just uninstall and wipe data with Titanium since it was installed as an .apk- from Gnufabio? (pretty sure this won't work but thought I would throw it out there anyways). Where is the recovery located on a tablet (what folders) Same as in phones?
2. Can we just flash the stock recovery by itself and not reset back to .13 or younger? If I am running stock ROM, it seems that I should be able to just reflash the stock recovery and replace it w/o changing the ROM or factory reset.
I have no problem doing it the long way but if it doesn't need to be done and we can replace the CWR with stock and not tamper with the ROM, it seems logical.
Clearly I just got the tab recently and have been reading and reading but they seem so much different than the way phones work. I am very comfortable flashing ROMs/Kernels/Mods on phones, but just a little intimidated with the tablet (for now).
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1- The RecoveryInstaller app only help to flash the recovery image so no you can just delete it.
2- You can flash a stock recovery image via CWM. You can get a repacked version here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1154947&highlight=unroot

baseballfanz said:
2- You can flash a stock recovery image via CWM. You can get a repacked version here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1154947&highlight=unroot
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I figured that would be the case with the executable part of the apk.
I read that thread but wasn't sure if only the stock recovery by itself could be flashed w/o the prepacked ROM.

[Q] Is my phone back to stock yet?

I'm confused now. So I bought this phone used it, rooted it, used da_g's kernel, flashed the UCLA modem and used stockmod rom. now i need to get it back to stock.
i removed the sd card, then did the ODIN instructions and went into download mode and flashed it 'back to stock.' after reboot all my stuff is still on there; so i went into privacy and formatted erased everything. rebooted now i'm at my screen and i went to about, android version 2.3.5, baseband version i727ucla3, kernel 2.6.35.11, build number GINGERBREAD.UCKJ2.
why is my baseband version still at ucla3? i thought flashing the ODIN stock it would set everything back to stock. basically i want to give this to a family member but i want it in the condition that it truly is stock and they can run updates just fine. i ran the 'software update' to try to get the OTA for 2.3.6 but it said 'Current software is up to date' -- isn't the newest 2.3.6.. is my baseband preventing the update. is my kernel back to stock? can i ODIN 2.3.6 stock straight to the device?
also why cant i get back into the 'download mode' i saw previously, all i get when i hold vol up and down is an 'android recovery 3e' what is that.. if i can't get download mode how can i ODIN? im thinking i need to CWM this guy to flash the old baseband then do the process over again to get stock rom and stock kernel... help!
thanks in advance.

Download 'root check free' and see what it says. Also make sure the superuser app is uninstalled

haroonie said:
I'm confused now. So I bought this phone used it, rooted it, used da_g's kernel, flashed the UCLA modem and used stockmod rom. now i need to get it back to stock.
i removed the sd card, then did the ODIN instructions and went into download mode and flashed it 'back to stock.' after reboot all my stuff is still on there; so i went into privacy and formatted erased everything. rebooted now i'm at my screen and i went to about, android version 2.3.5, baseband version i727ucla3, kernel 2.6.35.11, build number GINGERBREAD.UCKJ2.
why is my baseband version still at ucla3? i thought flashing the ODIN stock it would set everything back to stock. basically i want to give this to a family member but i want it in the condition that it truly is stock and they can run updates just fine. i ran the 'software update' to try to get the OTA for 2.3.6 but it said 'Current software is up to date' -- isn't the newest 2.3.6.. is my baseband preventing the update. is my kernel back to stock? can i ODIN 2.3.6 stock straight to the device?
also why cant i get back into the 'download mode' i saw previously, all i get when i hold vol up and down is an 'android recovery 3e' what is that.. if i can't get download mode how can i ODIN? im thinking i need to CWM this guy to flash the old baseband then do the process over again to get stock rom and stock kernel... help!
thanks in advance.
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My best advice for you is to do more reading before you really mess something up. If you don't know the difference between 3e recovery -vs- CWM you haven't read nearly enough to do what you want to do. I am not telling you this to be a smart-a*s, but because I don't want to see you brick your phone. And, almost everyhting you have asked has been discussed in detail.
The modem / radio (baseband) lives on its own little partician so you will probably need to flash the radio you want by itself (while you still have CWM). You can find the different radio zips in the "Radio" thread in the "Dev" section.
But you will first need CWM back. You will need to be rooted to have CWM and you can get CWM (after root) by using ROM manager to download it or you can ODIN CWM if you use Copperhed's root method.
Once you are rooted and have CWM installed, you can flash whichever modem / radio you want. Then, go to K0nane's "Return to stock" thread and follow the directions completely! Read the entire thread first...JUST DO IT!
Once you are back to stock and have the modem you want, use ODIN to install the 3e recovery (original Samsung revovery) back to your phone. There is a thread that has the 3e recovery .TAR but you will have to do a search to find it.
THEN...you will be back to stock. Of course the AT&T 2.3.6 updates have been pulled (again, discussed in many threads) so you probably won't get the OTA update anyway. But it won't hurt to check. Again, read everything before you do anything and if you still have questions after reading everything...ask before you jump.
Good luck.

android recovery 3e is recovery mode. Holding the volume keys + power button is how you get into recovery, not download mode. To get into download mode:
1 - power off the phone.
2 - plug in your USB cable into your computer/laptop (but not the phone yet)
3 - now hold down the volume keys and plug in the usb cable to the phone while still holding down the volume keys. The phone will vibrate and you can release the volume keys once you see that you're in download mode. I can't remember, but it might actually just be the volume down key and not both.
If that still doesnt work, try taking out the battery and then reinserting it after you power off the phone. Then try again.

scott14719 said:
My best advice for you is to do more reading before you really mess something up.
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m4570d0n said:
android recovery 3e is recovery mode. Holding the volume keys + power button is how you get into recovery, not download mode. To get into download mode:
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Thanks for the help, very informative and you basically confirmed what i was thinking. i come from the iOS world where the firmware files when restored it was back to stock, contained the os/modem fw and kernel; plus wiped everything so that just added to the confusion!
so here's how i think it works - your post says the modem, kernel, OS & recovery all live on separate partitions and since some aren't contained in K0nane's stock ODIN; i need to be sure to flash each to be considered "fully stock." if you do K0nane's stock ODIN (does not contain modem, but has orig 3e recovery, kernel, OS) and it is incompatible with the existing modem; you could be in deep sh*t or a brick. also if you flash stock ODIN, you loose the ability to flash kernel or modem because you're now unrooted and without cwm to do that...
two questions - where in android can i see if i'm truly on stock kernel because can't the build string be spoofed? if i restore my cwm backup from post-root-stock state, does that restore / contain modem or kernel?
TIA again.

haroonie said:
Thanks for the help, very informative and you basically confirmed what i was thinking. i come from the iOS world where the firmware files when restored it was back to stock, contained the os/modem fw and kernel; plus wiped everything so that just added to the confusion!
so here's how i think it works - your post says the modem, kernel, OS & recovery all live on separate partitions and since some aren't contained in K0nane's stock ODIN; i need to be sure to flash each to be considered "fully stock." if you do K0nane's stock ODIN (does not contain modem, but has orig 3e recovery, kernel, OS) and it is incompatible with the existing modem; you could be in deep sh*t or a brick. also if you flash stock ODIN, you loose the ability to flash kernel or modem because you're now unrooted and without cwm to do that...
two questions - where in android can i see if i'm truly on stock kernel because can't the build string be spoofed? if i restore my cwm backup from post-root-stock state, does that restore / contain modem or kernel?
TIA again.
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OK, I see K0nane's thread has the .TAR stock (Odin flash) and apparently already has the 3e recovery included so if you use K0nane's .TAR, you should not have to re-root or install CWM after the flash. So the only reason you would need to re-root and install CWM is if the modem still remains unchanged.
If the modem (radio) is still wrong after the "return to stock .TAR Odin flash, you will need to do what I wrote above (ie. re-root and install CWM) then flash the correct radio through CWM, then re-odin the return to stock .TAR. Others have reported that they were able to get the OTA update (when it was available) using this method. Maybe a .TAR (ODIN flashable modem) exists, but I'm not sure if I've read anything about anyone trying it if it does. If it does, and it works, you can use ODIN to flash the radio as well.
Yes, the modem itself does live on a different partician. Some custom ROMS include the modem and a script for installing it, but usually mention this up front. If the modem doesn't change after a ROM flash, it must be flashed seperately. I've never seen a phone bricked because of a modem mismatch with a ROM (as long as it is an AT&T (I727) skyrocket ROM and modem). But there may be issues with lost data connectivity or APNs.
But you are on the right path, just make sure you read everything and you will be fine.
As far as spoofing the build, I guess the only way to be sure if it is 100% stock is if you restore a nandroid (if you made one) and then ODIN 3e recovery. Or if you use Kies to reurn to stock.

scott14719 said:
But you are on the right path, just make sure you read everything and you will be fine.
As far as spoofing the build, I guess the only way to be sure if it is 100% stock is if you restore a nandroid (if you made one) and then ODIN 3e recovery. Or if you use Kies to reurn to stock.
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Thanks for the details man, really appreciate it. I read through the threads you suggested and they helped, but no mention of modem. After my initial k0nane stock flash, modem was incorrect so i did the below steps and everything looks good. Still no OTA, but thats fine because it may be because of other reasons (2.3.6 pulled).
You mentioned 100% stock if i have my nandroid, but i would still have to 'un-root' my device afterwards. (i could then just goto settings > privacy > factory data reset would delete everything including the root then?) i am under the impression you needed to be rooted to create a nandroid so you would be restoring to the rooted state. is it true if you restore a nandroid you restore all partitions including the modem and kernel then?
Here's how i finally went back to stock when my device was not rooted but had a different modem.
0. DO NOT ODIN WITH RE-PARTITION OPTION ON, UN-CHECK THIS!
1. re-rooted with superoneclick SuperOneClickv2.3.3-ShortFuse.zip
2. odin to enable cwm SkyrocketCWMrecovery.tar
3. use cwm to flash modem to stock ATTKJ2 Radio_RIL__I727ATTKJ2.zip
4. use cwm to wipe data/factory reset
5. odin k0nane's stock SGH-I727-UCKJ2-k0nane.tar
6. verify in about section modem, kernel and software versions.
7. Voila!

No OTA after Root?

I used the 1-click method to root my phone. When I do the software update it goes as far as downloading the update, then my phone reboots. And for some reason when it reboots it reboots into recovery. Then I reboot my phone and when it loads it says update failed. The update is 2.3.5 to 2.3.6 I'm assuming. The reason I make this assumption is just because my wife and I got the same phone on the same day and hers updated and mine didn't. I rooted, she didn't. I read something about having to have all your original apps installed when I did a search, but I have removed any of the bloatware or any other apps as of yet. Thanks for the help in advance!

To Take the OTA you need Stock recovery, not CWM there is a thread with the Stock recovery you can flash in Odin to get the OTA to install
Check out this link to another post on here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1360943&highlight=stock+recovery+odin
this should be what you need to take the 2.3.6 OTA (which really isn't all that worth it, so if you're happy with 2.3.5 i would stay there until an ICS OTA comes)

Would a factory reset go back to stock recovery?

sumnerm1 said:
Would a factory reset go back to stock recovery?
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No a Factory reset just resets the user data not the recovery or system information

scubamikejax904 said:
To Take the OTA you need Stock recovery, not CWM there is a thread with the Stock recovery you can flash in Odin to get the OTA to install
Check out this link to another post on here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1360943&highlight=stock+recovery+odin
this should be what you need to take the 2.3.6 OTA (which really isn't all that worth it, so if you're happy with 2.3.5 i would stay there until an ICS OTA comes)
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My understanding was that 2.3.6 implemented a new modem that improved the performance of the phone. I personally have great service compared to my Tmobile that I just bought out my contact on. Just wondering how much better that update would make my phone.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I727 using XDA

If your rooted you can just flash the 2.3.6 radio in cwm... Or even a 2.3.6 ROM (MHX superlite 3.1 final was my GB ROM of choice)
There is a radio thread and also info in the all in one sticky thread.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I727R on Alien ICS #8

[Q] How to update GTP3113??

I am on stock(P3113 rooted+cwm)...I am getting an OTA for 4.0.4 but for that i'll need to go back to stock recovery...Should i :
1) Flash stock rom n then take the OTA
2) Flash 4.0.4 through odin [ http://samsung-updates.com/device/?id=GT-P3113 ]
3) Flash stock recovery n then take the ODA.
I would like to go with option 3 cuz it will require the min. amount of downloading....But for that i need stock recovery...So what should i do n is there any other way??

On my 5113 the only thing that worked for me was to flash with Kies and then reroot. It was well worth it though.
There doesn't seem to be an easy way to get just the recovery and I think (not sure) that only Odin can unlock that partition anyway. There are some stock images in Odin format and I have been meaning to pick through them to see if I can find the stock recovery image, but since no one has posted such, I am guessing you can't.

wd5gnr said:
On my 5113 the only thing that worked for me was to flash with Kies and then reroot. It was well worth it though.
There doesn't seem to be an easy way to get just the recovery and I think (not sure) that only Odin can unlock that partition anyway. There are some stock images in Odin format and I have been meaning to pick through them to see if I can find the stock recovery image, but since no one has posted such, I am guessing you can't.
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But the problem is that i can't update vie kies...It keeps on disconnecting, so OTA is my only option n for that i need to get rid of CWM.

I am curious too, I rooted using this method, and have CWM installed.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=25480291&postcount=137
I guess I can just flash the stock image and loose root, upgrade, then reroot. Hopefully, someone will drop a stock, rooted and deodexed 4..0.4 rom for the P3113.
Also, I have not used Kies before, so I guess I don't even know how to flash the stock image for this tablet. Can anyone help with that?

fillyo said:
I am curious too, I rooted using this method, and have CWM installed.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=25480291&postcount=137
I guess I can just flash the stock image and loose root, upgrade, then reroot. Hopefully, someone will drop a stock, rooted and deodexed 4..0.4 rom for the P3113.
Also, I have not used Kies before, so I guess I don't even know how to flash the stock image for this tablet. Can anyone help with that?
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To flash stock you'll have to use the stock rom n flash using odin,,, But i was hoping that there is way around it...

I've updated today my rooted P3113 to 4.0.4
This is the only way to upgrade rooted P3113 (with CWM), because the samsung official upgrade scenario doesnt works on CWM
1. Backup with Titanium
2. Wipe/factory reset with CWM
3. Download and unzip stock 4.0.4 firmware from here, then flash it with odin (PDA button)
4. Configure your device (now it's clean stock apps and stock recovery)
5. Restore your apps with Titanium
6. Install CWM and root - If you wish so (just as you installed on 4.0.3)

barmalei7 said:
I've updated today my rooted P3113 to 4.0.4
This is the only way to upgrade rooted P3113 (with CWM), because the samsung official upgrade scenario doesnt works on CWM
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I would imagine this is just like the 5113. If you use Keis instead of the OTA update it works. Apparently Keis uses the USB instead of the recovery. However, a lot of people are having trouble getting Keis to stay connected. But I used it with no problems. Just reflashed CWM and rerooted as you say, but did not have to reflash to stock.

Just updated manually from 4.0.3 + Rooted + CWM 5.5.0.4 (GT3113)
Sorry too young to post links
Went very simple (10 minutes)
Returned to Stock Recovery: h://theunlockr.com/2012/06/02/get-samsung-galaxy-tab-2-7-gtp3113-back-stock
REBOOTED
Applied Update (not 4.0.4, not sure what it was)
Downloaded 4.0.4 from Samsung directly: h://samsung-updates.com/device/?id=GT-P3113
Unzipped to Desktop
Updated to 4.0.4 using ODIN (PDA)
REBOOTED
System applied update on startup
Asked me to select language, date, Goodle backup, etc
It loaded all existing Apps, Wi-Fi, etc automatically no TiRestore needed
Up and running, seems faster- smoother, new keyboard (old keyboard was good, this one is as good better for big fingers?)
:laugh:
Back to CWM & Root
h://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1722304

I downloaded the file from the Samsung site, launched Odin and updated. It kept all my apps and settings since I did not wipe. Flashed recovery, then rerooted, did not take long. If it gets yucky, I will do a factory reset.

Very helpful!
Very helpful guide.
On a semi-related note, I really like 4.0.4 it's certainly an improvement over the last and seems to have cured the stupid interface lag.

Ok flashed mine using mobile odin...no need to wipe data..

JacRyan said:
Just updated manually from 4.0.3 + Rooted + CWM 5.5.0.4 (GT3113)
Sorry too young to post links
Went very simple (10 minutes)
Returned to Stock Recovery: h://theunlockr.com/2012/06/02/get-samsung-galaxy-tab-2-7-gtp3113-back-stock
REBOOTED
Applied Update (not 4.0.4, not sure what it was)
Downloaded 4.0.4 from Samsung directly: h://samsung-updates.com/device/?id=GT-P3113
Unzipped to Desktop
Updated to 4.0.4 using ODIN (PDA)
REBOOTED
System applied update on startup
Asked me to select language, date, Goodle backup, etc
It loaded all existing Apps, Wi-Fi, etc automatically no TiRestore needed
Up and running, seems faster- smoother, new keyboard (old keyboard was good, this one is as good better for big fingers?)
:laugh:
Back to CWM & Root
h://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1722304
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Your steps are so easy. I wish I could follow you on this, but I can't figure out how to revert back to stock recovery only. The theunlockr.com link shows how to completely revert the entire firmware. How do you revert recovery ONLY?

Hasn't someone made a .zip file that can be flashed with CWM? Why is it different than flashing a 3rd party rom?

[Q] How do you unroot GS3?

How do you unroot the GS3 and get back to stock unrooted? I am currently just stock rooted. I'm just done with flashing and don't want to worry about something happening to my phone while I'm rooted, and am sick of it not being able to take the VZW update on a daily basis. I understand there is an unroot in the superuser app, is it as simple as clicking that and it will unroot by itself? Is there more I need to do? Thanks for your help!

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Many ways to unroot, you could use SuperSU and select remove root, then uninstall the app then reboot or use universal unroot app from play store.

buhohitr said:
Many ways to unroot, you could use SuperSU and select remove root, then uninstall the app then reboot or use universal unroot app from play store.
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Thank you. Once you perform either or these methods, can you still root again in the future if you decide to?

I unrooted through SuperSU. Went to install the VZW update and it went into Teamwin Recovery. When it was trying to update the software and running all the checks, etc. I saw "checking for MD5 file...no MD5 file found." What is this and is this what is causing me to not be able to take the update? Am I supposed to still have Teamwin Recovery? How do I get rid of it? Root Checker said I'm unrooted now.
Where do I go from here? Thanks again!

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Flash this file:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2795659
With this guide:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2586319
Then you're unrooted and up to date, but you'll erase all of your data. So backup all the pictures and music you want to keep.
Sent from my HTC6525LVW using Tapatalk

BadUsername said:
Flash this file:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2795659
With this guide:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2586319
Then you're unrooted and up to date, but you'll erase all of your data. So backup all the pictures and music you want to keep.
Sent from my HTC6525LVW using Tapatalk
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None of the links to the files have anything in them. Is there another way? Any other location to find these files?

irl5fan said:
None of the links to the files have anything in them. Is there another way? Any other location to find these files?
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You're right, try to search for it in Google. I didn't bookmark anything.
Sent from my HTC6525LVW using Tapatalk

irl5fan said:
I unrooted through SuperSU. Went to install the VZW update and it went into Teamwin Recovery. When it was trying to update the software and running all the checks, etc. I saw "checking for MD5 file...no MD5 file found." What is this and is this what is causing me to not be able to take the update? Am I supposed to still have Teamwin Recovery? How do I get rid of it? Root Checker said I'm unrooted now.
Where do I go from here? Thanks again!
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Dude.... You shouldn't be rooting if you don't know what TWRP is.... LMAO!
You need to flash stock recovery to take the OTA, you should of backed it up when you first flashed TeamWin to the device and it would of been a simple reflash through Flashify and it would of been good.
Now you need to download Odin (A PC flash tool) and reflash through that programme....
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LiamAtkins90 said:
Dude.... You shouldn't be rooting if you don't know what TWRP is.... LMAO!
You need to flash stock recovery to take the OTA, you should of backed it up when you first flashed TeamWin to the device and it would of been a simple reflash through Flashify and it would of been good.
Now you need to download Odin (A PC flash tool) and reflash through that programme....
When did I say I didn't know what TWRP is? So if I flash stock recovery will that get me where I want to be...stock unrooted and able to take OTA updates. I never did flash any custom roms or anything while I was rooted.
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irl5fan said:
When did I say I didn't know what TWRP is? So if I flash stock recovery will that get me where I want to be...stock unrooted and able to take OTA updates. I never did flash any custom roms or anything while I was rooted.
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Sorry, I realise my reply come of a little arsey, I will explain.
If you take the OTA in stock recovery it will go through, but as soon as you flash a custom recovery you give up the right to an OTA whilst on said recovery,
Instead you either:
1. Flash a custom ROM, and do updates with there ROM team.
2. Wait for stock ROM to come in a flashable zip for Custom Recoverys.
If you have root and stock recovery and take it, sometime it will go through, sometimes it won't.... Like Samsung Knox for example....
Sometimes it will take but as soon as you boot back up you will have no root.
If you OTA in Custom Recovery it will boot to TWRP and most likely abort straight away and bad things will ocure.
Mixed Partitions no ROM etc...
Now back to your question....
Yeah Stock non rooted you can take OTA (but in Samsung's case, they have a flash counter, that keeps track of system mods)
Best bet would be flash through Odin, to out-the-box firmware and take the OTA from there...to avoid any conflicts with the system.
I do apologise for my earlier post mate, write back if you got it upgraded.

LiamAtkins90 said:
Sorry, I realise my reply come of a little arsey, I will explain.
If you take the OTA in stock recovery it will go through, but as soon as you flash a custom recovery you give up the right to an OTA whilst on said recovery,
Instead you either:
1. Flash a custom ROM, and do updates with there ROM team.
2. Wait for stock ROM to come in a flashable zip for Custom Recoverys.
If you have root and stock recovery and take it, sometime it will go through, sometimes it won't.... Like Samsung Knox for example....
Sometimes it will take but as soon as you boot back up you will have no root.
If you OTA in Custom Recovery it will boot to TWRP and most likely abort straight away and bad things will ocure.
Mixed Partitions no ROM etc...
Now back to your question....
Yeah Stock non rooted you can take OTA (but in Samsung's case, they have a flash counter, that keeps track of system mods)
Best bet would be flash through Odin, to out-the-box firmware and take the OTA from there...to avoid any conflicts with the system.
I do apologise for my earlier post mate, write back if you got it upgraded.
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No problem. This has been a long drawn out process over the past few months, so forgive me for all the questions and details of events. This is where I'm at. When I started the unrooting process, as stated above, used triangle away to reset the counter and then I unrooted through SuperSU. According to root checker apps I am unrooted, but I believe my bootloader is still unlocked. And obviously still have TWRP. Phone Info: SCH-I535, Version 4.1.2, Baseband I535VRBMF1.
Given that info, do I still flash the stock firmware (from here?--->) (http://downloadandroidfiles.org/download-sch-i535-vzw-i535vrbmb1-1360821900-zip/) and then flash stock recovery? Does flashing stock firmware re-lock my bootloader? Thanks for your help.

irl5fan said:
No problem. This has been a long drawn out process over the past few months, so forgive me for all the questions and details of events. This is where I'm at. When I started the unrooting process, as stated above, used triangle away to reset the counter and then I unrooted through SuperSU. According to root checker apps I am unrooted, but I believe my bootloader is still unlocked. And obviously still have TWRP. Phone Info: SCH-I535, Version 4.1.2, Baseband I535VRBMF1.
Given that info, do I still flash the stock firmware (from here?--->) (http://downloadandroidfiles.org/download-sch-i535-vzw-i535vrbmb1-1360821900-zip/) and then flash stock recovery? Does flashing stock firmware re-lock my bootloader? Thanks for your help.
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So you used Triangle Away to clear the flash counter?
Great, so the only thing you need now is the stock recovery image for your device,
I would say just flash the stock recovery image through Odin, but their is that many models
with different numbers, it would be easier flashing 4.1.2 firmware again through Odin.
In future bud if your gonna be messing with ROMs and Recovery files I recommend this:
Flash recovery with this:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.cgollner.flashify&hl=en_GB
(Backup Stock Recovery 1st)
Backup Stock EVERYTHING, Boot, System, EFS, Data etc in Recovery of choice.
Move backup to computer or cloud storage.
Then all you need to do to go back is triangle away, restore stock backup, restore stock recovery, unroot through SuperSU.
And the OTA should work.
Sent From V500
Using XDA App

LiamAtkins90 said:
So you used Triangle Away to clear the flash counter?
Great, so the only thing you need now is the stock recovery image for your device,
I would say just flash the stock recovery image through Odin, but their is that many models
with different numbers, it would be easier flashing 4.1.2 firmware again through Odin.
In future bud if your gonna be messing with ROMs and Recovery files I recommend this:
Flash recovery with this:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.cgollner.flashify&hl=en_GB
(Backup Stock Recovery 1st)
Backup Stock EVERYTHING, Boot, System, EFS, Data etc in Recovery of choice.
Move backup to computer or cloud storage.
Then all you need to do to go back is triangle away, restore stock backup, restore stock recovery, unroot through SuperSU.
And the OTA should work.
Sent From V500
Using XDA App
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I just want to clarify before I go ahead and do anything and get myself into a pickle. Are you saying to flash 4.1.2 firmware instead of stock recovery? Or am I still flashing both of them? If so, which order? Does that link I posted look like it is the correct firmware to you? Also, I have an older version of Odin on my computer, does that matter or should I get the newer one first?

irl5fan said:
I just want to clarify before I go ahead and do anything and get myself into a pickle. Are you saying to flash 4.1.2 firmware instead of stock recovery? Or am I still flashing both of them? If so, which order? Does that link I posted look like it is the correct firmware to you? Also, I have an older version of Odin on my computer, does that matter or should I get the newer one first?
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Stock recovery is in the firmware file mate, when you flash the firmware it flashes the recovery, clears internal SD card (move pictures, videos, music to PC) & Radio, Modem, EFS basically everything on the phone gets flashed to how it is when you buy it from a store. Whats your model number?
And no it shouldn't matter, I've never seen any issues rise with using older Odin Programmes.
Do you have experience using Odin?
If not:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s3/help/guide-odin-flash-guide-t1671969
That guide covers how to use it, where to place the firmware file etc.
Any questions just ask
Sent From V500
Using XDA App

LiamAtkins90 said:
Stock recovery is in the firmware file mate, when you flash the firmware it flashes the recovery, clears internal SD card (move pictures, videos, music to PC) & Radio, Modem, EFS basically everything on the phone gets flashed to how it is when you buy it from a store. Whats your model number?
And no it shouldn't matter, I've never seen any issues rise with using older Odin Programmes.
Do you have experience using Odin?
If not:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s3/help/guide-odin-flash-guide-t1671969
That guide covers how to use it, where to place the firmware file etc.
Any questions just ask
Sent From V500
Using XDA App
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My model number is SCH-I535. I have used Odin before, but I'll take a look at the guide just to make sure. Thanks for your help!

LiamAtkins90 said:
Stock recovery is in the firmware file mate, when you flash the firmware it flashes the recovery, clears internal SD card (move pictures, videos, music to PC) & Radio, Modem, EFS basically everything on the phone gets flashed to how it is when you buy it from a store. Whats your model number?
And no it shouldn't matter, I've never seen any issues rise with using older Odin Programmes.
Do you have experience using Odin?
If not:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s3/help/guide-odin-flash-guide-t1671969
That guide covers how to use it, where to place the firmware file etc.
Any questions just ask
Sent From V500
Using XDA App
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I just wanted to say thanks for helping out someone in our forums with the VZW variant, I was going to chime in but I see you had things under control. It's just odd to see so many people in our forums who don't have the version we have
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ShapesBlue said:
I just wanted to say thanks for helping out someone in our forums with the VZW variant, I was going to chime in but I see you had things under control. It's just odd to see so many people in our forums who don't have the version we have
From my Wicked S3 on SOKP
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No problem, glad I can help.
Verizon edition Models tend to get overlooked as oppose to International variants which is a shame, I think both should get equal recognition. Not just Sammy Verizon, most Verizon models and also Google Play Edition Model Phones/Tablets get pushed aside.... Crying shame.

LiamAtkins90 said:
Stock recovery is in the firmware file mate, when you flash the firmware it flashes the recovery, clears internal SD card (move pictures, videos, music to PC) & Radio, Modem, EFS basically everything on the phone gets flashed to how it is when you buy it from a store. Whats your model number?
And no it shouldn't matter, I've never seen any issues rise with using older Odin Programmes.
Do you have experience using Odin?
If not:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s3/help/guide-odin-flash-guide-t1671969
That guide covers how to use it, where to place the firmware file etc.
Any questions just ask
Sent From V500
Using XDA App
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Everything worked out great, flashed the stock firmware and was able to take the OTA. Thank you so much for your help, it's greatly appreciated!