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Will flashing an AT&T tilt with the HTC ROM unlock it from the network

I am curious if flashing my AT&T tilt with the HTC software will allow me to use a sim card from another carrier. Has anyone tried this?

doctorphil said:
I am curious if flashing my AT&T tilt with the HTC software will allow me to use a sim card from another carrier. Has anyone tried this?
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Nope. Find something/someone/someway to SIM unlock phone. Not possible as of yet. ROM flashing will work only after you CID unlock your phone, which means you can flash different ROMs onto your phone than originally suppied.

Some post couple days ago talk about how to sim unlock already, just search for it and call the att number on there, it work for me.

maximuz329 said:
Some post couple days ago talk about how to sim unlock already, just search for it and call the att number on there, it work for me.
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haha, yeah, for some reason i never think to call up At&t for anything... i'm sure you can lie to your provider so they will give you the unlock code (at least until enough people use the same story verbatim to where they realize that it must be posted some discussion board as to how to get sim unlocked....)

I am still somewhat confused as to the unlocking aspect.
I know I can obtain the SIM unlock code for the Tilt from AT&T. Are you saying that it is still impossible to CID unlock the phone, once this has been done?

lorettaboy said:
I am still somewhat confused as to the unlocking aspect.
I know I can obtain the SIM unlock code for the Tilt from AT&T. Are you saying that it is still impossible to CID unlock the phone, once this has been done?
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SIM unlocking and CID unlocking are two different things.
CID unlocking allows you to use OS ROMs from other variants of the same hardware. i.e. HTC TyTn II ROM on a Tilt. CID unlocking can be done easily with HardSPL.
SIM unlocking allows you to use SIMs other than your carrier's. Right now the only way to get a Tilt SIM-unlocked is to get an unlock code from AT&T, or to purchase an unlock code from someone else (who is probably just abusing an "insider" within AT&T to feed them unlock codes.). Flashing an alternative radio ROM can remove a SIM lock, but from a few posts I have read, it is going to be much more difficult/take much longer for our enterprising hackers to figure out how to flash an unsigned radio ROM and have it actually boot, apparently the radio bootloader now does an integrity/signing check against the ROM and will only boot signed carrier ROMs.

Well then I'm still going to call ATT tomorrow for the sim Unlock (heading to japan in a month) but, from what your saying does that mean i can go ahead and flash my phone using HardSPL to HTC stock? or do i need to have sim unlock first regardless what i do?

I understand it's encrypted. But what happens if you dump the radio rom from a tytnii and flash it onto a 8925?

ziddey said:
I understand it's encrypted. But what happens if you dump the radio rom from a tytnii and flash it onto a 8925?
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Don't think it'll work. I think that the ROM has to be signed until the bootloader gets cracked. Not sure. If it worked, we would've heard about it and it would be in all the FAQs.

I wonder how it works though. Definitely am not knowledgeable enough about this yet, but upgrades have come out in the past for older phones. It wouldn't change the lock state though. Why is that? If there's a way to corrupt it and then flash back the original? Are there any signed radio roms out?
What exactly happens when you flash an unsigned one? Brick or just no radio?

Philz said:
Well then I'm still going to call ATT tomorrow for the sim Unlock (heading to japan in a month) but, from what your saying does that mean i can go ahead and flash my phone using HardSPL to HTC stock? or do i need to have sim unlock first regardless what i do?
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Can you let me know how it goes with the call to AT&T? I'm going to HK in December and will call AT&T soon. I want to wait a little before calling since I just got the phone last week.

No worries. Tell them just that. You'll be off the phone within 5 minutes. No hassle at all compared to when I called to get my nokia 6682 unlocked a year ago. Just make sure you call international support

flashing tutorial
Hello,
I am very new to this so please forgive me. I did some searches but was unable to find anything complete. So is there any complete tutorial on how i can CID unclock and flash an AT&T Tilt with Dutty_s_TouchFlo_Final_Rom
Thank you

Unlocked HTC Fuze

Simple question needing a simple answer.
If my phone is unlock by using a code provided by ATT how do I lock back the phone for warranty issues?
Do I just reinstall the original ATT Fuze stock rom?
Thanks...

If it's unlocked through ATT, it's perfectly fine to return it in the same condition for warranty purposes.

Phone unlock
No When you unlock your phone With the Att Sub Sid Code it is forever Unlocked....

nucentury08 said:
No When you unlock your phone With the Att Sub Sid Code it is forever Unlocked....
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yes it is.......

herg62123 said:
yes it is.......
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I think that's what he meant He just forgot to place a comma after no in response to the OP's concern.

if you unlocked by code from AT&T, then you don't need to relock it to return it. not sure why you thought you needed to relock it.

After hours spent talking to ATT to get the code to unlock my full paid phone, I was told once I unlock the phone it voids my warranty.
Thats why I ask..

CalifornIyay said:
After hours spent talking to ATT to get the code to unlock my full paid phone, I was told once I unlock the phone it voids my warranty.
Thats why I ask..
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are you sure you are CID unlocking or just sim unlocking. if you sim unlock you CANNOT FLASH ROMS. if it is CID unlocked basiclly wide open then your fine to flash roms etc.

HackMimic said:
are you sure you are CID unlocking or just sim unlocking. if you sim unlock you CANNOT FLASH ROMS. if it is CID unlocked basiclly wide open then your fine to flash roms etc.
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How would I know what code they gave me?

HackMimic said:
are you sure you are CID unlocking or just sim unlocking. if you sim unlock you CANNOT FLASH ROMS. if it is CID unlocked basiclly wide open then your fine to flash roms etc.
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ok obviosuly no one knows what therwe talking about here..but i can give it to californiyay because hes ASKING THE QUESTION..i dont mean to be a jerk but dont give out answers if you dont know what your talking about...sorry that sounded really mean lol
ok sim unlocking is just alowing your device to utilize a different carrier's sim card and the warranty department cant detect if it is unlocked IF yu used the method ON XDA..now if they gave you a code i BELIEVE that is solely based on the rom you are using because one you flash another rom it MAY ask you again for that code when you insert a different sim..i myself have never used codes from carrier reps ive only done it myself through hardware devices and software hacks...so even if your device is SIM UNLOCKED you STILL CAN FLASH ROMS
and you dont need to CID to flash roms..i personally dont cid unlock anymore because on the bootloader screen at the top it wuill say "SECURITY UNLOCKED" and if you want to do a warranty return and even though you reverted your device back to warranty spec rom and spl it still blares that message at the top of the bootloader screen which is a dead giveaway..
just dont trip if you need to do a warranty exchange just call em up (18008011101) and just tell them your isue if and when you have one and they send you a new device and you send yous back..and viola your good..

CalifornIyay said:
How would I know what code they gave me?
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they only give out sim unlock codes...CID unlocking is done through software hacks...

Try emptying your cache immediately before clicking on the link (I needed to do that). You may also want to turn off any anti-virus software (and perhaps pop-up blockers). You also need 7zip or winrar to open up the folder.
BTW, I purchased the unlocker, and then chickened out and didn't use it when I found out (and didn't understand) what it did. So, I also bought the SIM unlock code from htccode.com. If you go that route, the phone does stay unlocked after ROM flashing (there was an earlier Q about that, I just thought I'd address it).

Sorry, still a little confused on the whole SIM/CID Unlocking, so I have to SIM unlock to flash roms? and what benefit does CID unlocking give me? what form of unlocking do I need to change radios?
pazookie said:
ok sim unlocking is just alowing your device to utilize a different carrier's sim card and the warranty department cant detect if it is unlocked IF yu used the method ON XDA..now if they gave you a code i BELIEVE that is solely based on the rom you are using because one you flash another rom it MAY ask you again for that code when you insert a different sim..i myself have never used codes from carrier reps ive only done it myself through hardware devices and software hacks...so even if your device is SIM UNLOCKED you STILL CAN FLASH ROMS
and you dont need to CID to flash roms..i personally dont cid unlock anymore because on the bootloader screen at the top it wuill say "SECURITY UNLOCKED" and if you want to do a warranty return and even though you reverted your device back to warranty spec rom and spl it still blares that message at the top of the bootloader screen which is a dead giveaway..
just dont trip if you need to do a warranty exchange just call em up (18008011101) and just tell them your isue if and when you have one and they send you a new device and you send yous back..and viola your good..
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You need to SIM unlock the phone to use different carriers (t-mobile, orange, etc.). You need the security lock to flash non-raphael radios. You don't need to do anything (except install hard-spl) to flash roms, unless the rom contains a non-raphael radio (most do not change the radio, from what I gather).

When I flash a rom, do I still have the old at&t stuff on there so I can just reboot with the vol down button if I dont like the rom? sorry to be so ignorant, we all have to start somewhere. Ive tried searching but when you type in "flash rom" you end up getting 392 threads to search through.

I'm curious too as I'll be getting my Fuze on Saturday

fatguybp said:
When I flash a rom, do I still have the old at&t stuff on there so I can just reboot with the vol down button if I dont like the rom? sorry to be so ignorant, we all have to start somewhere. Ive tried searching but when you type in "flash rom" you end up getting 392 threads to search through.
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if you want to go back to your original rom, then you'll have to download the stock rom and flash it again. Doing a hard reset will just give you a fresh copy of the cooked rom you flashed.

So, just for saftey I have located the stock rom for my phone, now, it says it has a radio, the radio is the same version as mine, but I have heard not to flash with a radio if your device is locked because it may brick the device, does this apply for using the same radio to flash with? (I just want to be very careful when I do this not to screw anything up)
scotchua said:
if you want to go back to your original rom, then you'll have to download the stock rom and flash it again. Doing a hard reset will just give you a fresh copy of the cooked rom you flashed.
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fatguybp said:
So, just for saftey I have located the stock rom for my phone, now, it says it has a radio, the radio is the same version as mine, but I have heard not to flash with a radio if your device is locked because it may brick the device, does this apply for using the same radio to flash with? (I just want to be very careful when I do this not to screw anything up)
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also how long does it take to flash?

OK people the questions and answers in here have been done MANY MANY MAY times, please read the sticky threads in the various sections before starting a whole new thread....these devices are expensive and a flashing process should NOT be attempted until you are fully aware of what you are doing
heres a starter for 10: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=448008

Unlocking/Sim Tool kit?

When rooting the phone it does unlock your phone? I have been looking across some sites saying that it does or it does not. Also the ace hack kit does unlock your phone.
I thought it does because when you flash a Rom it cause what carriers.
Other ? Is I also notice the sim tool kit but when I click on it it says its not ready or supported. Just wondering why its not.working I did come.across http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/SIM_Application_Toolkit
Overall I don't.need to unlock my phone cause its already unlocked. And the sim tool kit its nothing major.
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No rooting your phone does not unlock it. But the ace hack kit does unlock it. Most sim tool kits do not work as they were not made for updated phones

zelendel said:
No rooting your phone does not unlock it. But the ace hack kit does unlock it. Most sim tool kits do not work as they were not made for updated phones
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Ok when I rooted my phone I rooted by a tut video and it was the buddys root method lol I never used the ace hack kit before. Im downloading the AHK to see, I can still use that even though I used a different method? The AHK it self does the unlocking method from what I can see...
If I just wanted to unlock it i could just get the unlock code and go from their but I know you have to get a non accepted sim card.

If you are already rooted it's not recommended to use the ace hack kit. You'll have to unroot first.

CYRAXDroid said:
Ok when I rooted my phone I rooted by a tut video and it was the buddys root method lol I never used the ace hack kit before. Im downloading the AHK to see, I can still use that even though I used a different method? The AHK it self does the unlocking method from what I can see...
If I just wanted to unlock it i could just get the unlock code and go from their but I know you have to get a non accepted sim card.
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If you are rooted, then you are probably Sim unlock. As Pazz told you, don't use the Hack Kit, you will get jammed. First, check is you are already sim lock by using the method in point 5 of this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Vision#Rooting_the_Vision_.28G2.2FDZ.29_and_DHD
If that is not working, then you can revert to stock using the Hack Kit and re rooting...that will give you sim unlock....

O wasnt going to use the hack kit just saying. I also came across in the dev part for the stock ruu and shows how to go back to out of the box phone status. But there is couple of ways to revert back to stock phone lol so many choices
Cause I was thinking about selling my HTC inspire and was also looking to see how unroot the phone to go back to stock
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[Q] Can i update my firmware to 2.20

Hi Guys
Sorry for asking the same old question again..
I just got my AT&t HTC One x from US shipped over to India by my cousin.
It is locked to AT&t and i am unable to use a local network sim in it
I know i need to root it and turn S-off in order to unlock it.
The phone is on Firmware 1.85? and i have tried the ways mentioned in xda to root it but i guess when i click "Check for updates" it doesn't work.
So my question is
Can i manually by connecting the phone to Computer,update firmware to 2.20 so that i can root it that way?
And is it possible to unlock the BOOTLOADER w/out rooting so that phone gets unlocked to other carriers?
please help me out guys i have tried everything to make it work.. thank you

Unlocking the bootloader/rooting/dancing in circles WILL NOT sim unlock the phone.
You will need to use an online sim unlocking service (usually about 20 bucks) to get the unlock code

Currently, S-Off has not been achieved for this phone. And as already mentioned, bootloader unlock will not get you SIM unlock, and no free hack/mod method currently exists. You either need to use a paid unlock service, or if your cousin is currently an AT&T account holder, he can ask AT&T for the SIM unlock code (he will need the IMEI number of the phone, and maybe other info).
If you want root and unlocked bootloader for other reasons (flashing custom ROMs and other mods) there is no reason to upgrade to 2.20. Root method exists for 1.85. You need to root, SuperCID, then unlock the bootloader. Then you can install a custom recovery and flash custom ROMs.
Upgrading to 2.20 is not recommended. The 2.20 RUU will upgrade your hboot, which plugs the holes by which kernels and radios can be flashed from recovery. You will have to flash the boot.img separately every time your flash a ROM. No benefit to updating to 2.20, and actually lose ability to do some things.
If you still want root and bootloader unlock, refer to my index for links to root methods, etc.: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1671237
And no, bootloader unlock is not possible without root (temp root in case of 2.20) on the AT&T One X.

area51avenger said:
Unlocking the bootloader/rooting/dancing in circles WILL NOT sim unlock the phone.
You will need to use an online sim unlocking service (usually about 20 bucks) to get the unlock code
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Dancing in circles? ok got your point.
redpoint73 said:
Currently, S-Off has not been achieved for this phone. And as already mentioned, bootloader unlock will not get you SIM unlock, and no free hack/mod method currently exists. You either need to use a paid unlock service, or if your cousin is currently an AT&T account holder, he can ask AT&T for the SIM unlock code (he will need the IMEI number of the phone, and maybe other info).
If you want root and unlocked bootloader for other reasons (flashing custom ROMs and other mods) there is no reason to upgrade to 2.20. Root method exists for 1.85. You need to root, SuperCID, then unlock the bootloader. Then you can install a custom recovery and flash custom ROMs.
Upgrading to 2.20 is not recommended. The 2.20 RUU will upgrade your hboot, which plugs the holes by which kernels and radios can be flashed from recovery. You will have to flash the boot.img separately every time your flash a ROM. No benefit to updating to 2.20, and actually lose ability to do some things.
If you still want root and bootloader unlock, refer to my index for links to root methods, etc.: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1671237
And no, bootloader unlock is not possible without root (temp root in case of 2.20) on the AT&T One X.
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Thank you for a detailed answer. The reason i though it would unlock the sim was cause i had used other htc phones earlier and when you root them the S-off was achieved so thats why.. anyhow.. thank you for enlightening my dumb bum.

You're not dumb. Just ignorant. Now you have been enlightened. You still have a great phone, you just might have to pay a little bit so you can unlock and use it
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area51avenger said:
You're not dumb. Just ignorant.
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The word "ignorant" has always sounded like a pejorative word to me. But I had to look up the definition, figuring maybe I don't really know the literal meaning of the word. Which turned out to be the case. One of the definitions of ignorant is "Lacking knowledge, information, or awareness about something in particular" which seems to exactly fit this situation. I guess I gave myself the English lesson for the day!
Every phone is different, and HTC in particular is always changing around their security measures. So the OP is not dumb in any way, but was just missing some particular pieces of information.

[Q] Seriously need help with unlocked ATT One X

Alright guys, I am posting out of desperation.
I am no pro when it comes to rooting/unlocking/ROMming Android phones but I have read myself to death and I am not getting anywhere. I am almost willing to send this phone to someone who knows what they are doing. I really don't feel like buying another phone. In hindsight, I should've made sure I was getting a true unbranded HOX.
I bought an unlocked, AT&T One X from Amazon while I was in Afghanistan. Received the phone via APO, put in my Roshan SIM card, and was working fine. I traveled extensively in the past few months, all over the Middle East and South Asia, phone was working fine, I just picked up a local sim card and off I went.
Well then I went back to the US for the first time with this phone. Put in my TMobile SIM, and was working fine as well. Well now I left the country again, and now I can't pick up any networks at all. I have changed the radio via the USSD to GSM, WCDMA, everything, but can't pick up any networks. Keep in mind I also still have my SIM card that I bought when I was here. I insert the card, it says preparing sim card, etc, but won't find any networks.
How do I know if the phone is still SIM unlocked? Woulnd't it prompt me for an unlock code when I insterted the foreign SIM again? Do I need to root? Does my bootloader need to be unlocked to use any SIM?
What I was figuring I would try to do was flash a different ROM so I don't have to worry about this being an AT&T phone anymore. When I boot into the bootloader, it says LOCKED at the top with S-ON. There has never been an update done to the phone since I got it.
Things i've tried:
Any root for 1.85 ( I have tried every root for 1.85 you can search for on here)
RUU to update to 2.2 (says main battery power low, but it isn't)
Factory Reset
I really don't care so much to get a new ROM, I just want my phone to work. Here is what I get in the info page on the phone:
The bootloader says HBOOT 1.09 is installed
Kernel Version:
3.0.8-01155-gca24d1e
[email protected] #1
SMP PREEMPT
Build Number
1.85.502.3_R2 CL63811 release-keys
Sense 4.0
Android 4.0.3
Software Number
1.85.502.3 710RD
If you need any more info let me know but I am dying here

Sim unlock and bootloader unlock are two different things. I don't think either has anything to do with the other.
Assuming you bought this from a legit seller on Amazon, factory unlocked is factory unlocked. I've never heard of a phone getting sim locked from putting in a sim card. If you didn't get a "input unlock code" the first time, your phone isn't sim locked and is not locked down to AT&T.
Before you can root, though, you have to unlock the bootloader. That's why your root attempts keep failing. You want to stay on 1.85, trust me--later firmware is more locked down.
Are you sure there's nothing wrong with the other sim card you got? Have you tried a new one?

iElvis said:
Sim unlock and bootloader unlock are two different things. I don't think either has anything to do with the other.
Assuming you bought this from a legit seller on Amazon, factory unlocked is factory unlocked. I've never heard of a phone getting sim locked from putting in a sim card. If you didn't get a "input unlock code" the first time, your phone isn't sim locked and is not locked down to AT&T.
Before you can root, though, you have to unlock the bootloader. That's why your root attempts keep failing. You want to stay on 1.85, trust me--later firmware is more locked down.
Are you sure there's nothing wrong with the other sim card you got? Have you tried a new one?
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Really? The bootloader has to be unlocked before you can root? I definitely thought it was the other way around. I guess that would explain it, then..
What I actually ended up doing was repeatably trying the RUU, and finally got it to take the 2.2FW upgrade. As soon as that happened, I was pulling down 4G like nobodies business. Though, now that i've read your post, I kind of wish I would've stuck with trying to get a new ROM on it, instead of upgrading. I really have no idea why a FW upgrade made the radio start working like magic, or what would casue that at all.

Frosty288 said:
Really? The bootloader has to be unlocked before you can root? I definitely thought it was the other way around. I guess that would explain it, then..
What I actually ended up doing was repeatably trying the RUU, and finally got it to take the 2.2FW upgrade. As soon as that happened, I was pulling down 4G like nobodies business. Though, now that i've read your post, I kind of wish I would've stuck with trying to get a new ROM on it, instead of upgrading. I really have no idea why a FW upgrade made the radio start working like magic, or what would casue that at all.
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Progress is swift. I rooted using the 2.2 xfactor exploit and then unlocked the bootloader with the spoofed CID, now as soon as I figure it out I will install CleanROM 5.1..Hope I don't brick it!

Frosty288 said:
Progress is swift. I rooted using the 2.2 xfactor exploit and then unlocked the bootloader with the spoofed CID, now as soon as I figure it out I will install CleanROM 5.1..Hope I don't brick it!
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As long as you stay in this forum, these phones are tough to brick. The only way to do it is to flash roms for the international (Tegra 3) version.
Note that on 2.20., you have to flash the boot.img in fastboot when you flash a rom.

Youll never brick your phone as long as you have access to the bootloader or recovery lol
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If he wants cleanrom he won't have to be confused with fastboot. Just download rom and flash that sucker
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Do NOT RUU to 2.20! (never mind too late).
Looks like you figured things out.