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Is it possible to build a ROM off of an OS that doesn't officially exist?
Meaning, would I be able to build an Android 2.4 ROM, based off various SDKs?
And if so, how would I do this?
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But Android 2.4 does exist, here's the proof: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrAjgYDx7yU
twixter said:
But Android 2.4 does exist, here's the proof: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrAjgYDx7yU
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1- Isn't that a developer version of 2.3? Unreleased?
2- I wanted to build it off of 2.3, 3.0, and 4.0, if that would even be possible, and then have it look unlike anything Android has released yet.
And 3- Thank you for that video. I didn't think it existed
arikaru0 said:
1- Isn't that a developer version of 2.3? Unreleased?
2- I wanted to build it off of 2.3, 3.0, and 4.0, if that would even be possible, and then have it look unlike anything Android has released yet.
And 3- Thank you for that video. I didn't think it existed
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2.x.whatever is just a software version. So if you are using the baseline code of 2.3, it is still a 2.3 gingerbread based ROM. And if it is a custom ROM, you can call it what ever you want. myrom 6.9..doesn't matter. The only way it is officially 2.4 is if you use the 2.4 source code as the baseline for your ROM. Implementing features from different software versions doesn't make it an official new version of android. When Cyanogen 7 came out based off of gingerbread, it had way more features than 2.3.3. But since it was based off of 2.3.3, the software version was still 2.3.3...Kind of a jumbled post, but hope it helped shed some light.
Just build it off of ics and put whatever features you want into it. I'm not really sure what you want to do. You could build it from froyo or something and make it look like something different.
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2.x.whatever is just a software version. So if you are using the baseline code of 2.3, it is still a 2.3 gingerbread based ROM. And if it is a custom ROM, you can call it what ever you want. myrom 6.9..doesn't matter. The only way it is officially 2.4 is if you use the 2.4 source code as the baseline for your ROM. Implementing features from different software versions doesn't make it an official new version of android. When Cyanogen 7 came out based off of gingerbread, it had way more features than 2.3.3. But since it was based off of 2.3.3, the software version was still 2.3.3...Kind of a jumbled post, but hope it helped shed some light.
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But could you modify the settings .apk to make it say 2.4? If not, then can you mix and match apps from different version system dumps, or would you need to modify them?
I'm totally new to this, so I don't know how to do any of this
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arikaru0 said:
But could you modify the settings .apk to make it say 2.4? If not, then can you mix and match apps from different version system dumps, or would you need to modify them?
I'm totally new to this, so I don't know how to do any of this
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But just modifying the ROM to say a different version doesn't mean anything. You can make your gingerbread based ROM say software version 1.5...but that doesn't make it a cupcake ROM...
No offense but you seem like you shouldn't be making roms anyway. Its very difficult.
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lowandbehold said:
But just modifying the ROM to say a different version doesn't mean anything. You can make your gingerbread based ROM say software version 1.5...but that doesn't make it a cupcake ROM...
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Well, I just want it to say 2.4
michaelnv710 said:
No offense but you seem like you shouldn't be making roms anyway. Its very difficult.
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None taken, I just want to figure out how so I can make my own rom, due to the fact that all the roms available for the DInc are either really bad, or boring (except MIUI)
I agree, and I guess if your up to it there are some tutorials on the forums or Google it. It would be cool to see something new like that.
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How are the roms for the droid incredible "boring"? Have you looked at what newtoroot, jermaine, mcd, incubus, ihftp, and joelz have been doing for the phone in terms of development? Look in the dev thread, tell me inc2 mctwist is "boring." And then tell me that "android 2.4 is cool"
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How are the roms for the droid incredible "boring"? Have you looked at what newtoroot, jermaine, mcd, incubus, ihftp, and joelz have been doing for the phone in terms of development? Look in the dev thread, tell me inc2 mctwist is "boring." And then tell me that "android 2.4 is cool"
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I guess 'boring' was the wrong word. I've had the Incredible for a year, and I've gotten tired of Sense, I hate it now. I guess I should've specified farther- I hate Sense, and all the AOSP roms (other than MIUI) are boring.
I am opening this thread to discuss the new official release from AT&T and Samsung. Details can be found here.
I'm not sure why discussion rooting was a reason to close a thread, but I guess a overzealous mod is better than no mod.
I hate to burst your bubble but there's already an active thread about the official AT&T Gingerbread release.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1437947
I am not sure how much needs to be discussed. It is the same rom that was leaked back in 11/16/2011. Developers have done some amazing stuff with the Rom so far. All that is left for them to do really is add BLN and voodoo color to the kernel. I am not sure if having the source will do anything more for the Rom themselves.
FYI - Mod don't like ppl reopening closed threads.
yes I was active on that thread. It was locked by a mod because people started to discuss how to root the new release. zergRush does not work on it.
popfan said:
I am not sure how much needs to be discussed. It is the same rom that was leaked back in 11/16/2011. Developers have done some amazing stuff with the Rom so far. All that is left for them to do really is add BLN and voodoo color to the kernel. I am not sure if having the source will do anything more for the Rom themselves.
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Do we know yet that it is bit for bit the same?
Does anyone have an Odin or Heimdall compatible version of the ROM?
stoobie-doo said:
Do we know yet that it is bit for bit the same?
Does anyone have an Odin or Heimdall compatible version of the ROM?
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Those are the two big questions I have too.
That last thread was sure cut short, but i have a question regarding kies mini. Im currently running the leaked UCKK4 Stock, rooted, and bloatfree; will i be able to upgrade with kies mini?
gbalwing said:
That last thread was sure cut short, but i have a question regarding kies mini. Im currently running the leaked UCKK4 Stock, rooted, and bloatfree; will i be able to upgrade with kies mini?
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I had the exact type of rom running on my phone. Mini kies told me I was already running the latest rom. So, I did one click back to KB2 then used mini kies.
Ah, my apologies then.
I'll throw a bone out there, Fugu Root. Nuf said. Interesting enough tether manager likes to fc when you have debug enabled along with the usb connected.
c0ldburn3r said:
I'll throw a bone out there, Fugu Root. Nuf said. Interesting enough tether manager likes to fc when you have debug enabled along with the usb connected.
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I also had Tethering manage FC on me, but only right after I flashed it on the first reboot. I have not seen it FC again. I am very familiar with the Fugu kernel swap and think it great method, but my issue that I don't have a source of the kies released KK4 kernel. Do you know how to gernerate or extract an ODIN flashable kernel from the running image?
I'm running Cyanogenmod kang build 7.2 right now but I gotta ask is it worth going to stock gingerbread? How stable is it? I'll be honest I miss some of the touchwiz apps, but IMO the stock froyo rom sucked. At the very least I'd probably root and remove the AT&T BS, but IMO The froyo rom ran slower and buggier than the stock eclair rom! I really just want everyone's general opinion of it. Its a tough call. I got my phone running pretty stable with Cyanogenmod right now and its out of warrenty anyway so it might not even be worth my time anyway.
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I also had Tethering manage FC on me, but only right after I flashed it on the first reboot. I have not seen it FC again. I am very familiar with the Fugu kernel swap and think it great method, but my issue that I don't have a source of the kies released KK4 kernel. Do you know how to gernerate or extract an ODIN flashable kernel from the running image?
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Check the KK4 leak thread for the tar.
No one has confirmed that the KK4 leak is exactly the same of the offical KK4. That is my only hesitation. I would like to be sure that I am running the AT&T KK4 release
Cor-master said:
I'm running Cyanogenmod kang build 7.2 right now but I gotta ask is it worth going to stock gingerbread? How stable is it? I'll be honest I miss some of the touchwiz apps, but IMO the stock froyo rom sucked. At the very least I'd probably root and remove the AT&T BS, but IMO The froyo rom ran slower and buggier than the stock eclair rom! I really just want everyone's general opinion of it. Its a tough call. I got my phone running pretty stable with Cyanogenmod right now and its out of warrenty anyway so it might not even be worth my time anyway.
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Well the camera is a heck of a lot better the AOSP. It's worth it, even though it's still RFS, it's snappy and way better the KB1 ever was.
Yeah speaking of rfs I'd definitely be putting a lag fix on. I might look into it, and yes I agree about the camera, in fact honestly the hate against touchwiz is unwarranted. All the touchwiz apps are better, even the launcher is better than vanilla android one(not counting cyanogenmod that uses adw, which is one if the best). Only thing I did notice is without touchwiz the rom is faster, so obviously it adds bulk but the apps are so much better!
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I never did get slacker radio and maps working at the same time on kk4. Even with tweaks I mentioned in another thread, slacker started dying after about a day of use. No problems like that with cm7. Thats why I am mostly interested if they actually made any changes from the leak. I doubt it though.
Ginger Bread is here
Im updating currently to official ginger bread
Didn't you notice that Samsung & at&t dropped lots of original Gingerbread features? like the CRT screen-off animation... I can't find it on the new official GB update one.
Is CarrierIQ still present in the official build? Curious. It was in the leak.
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Has kernal support for 2.3.7 stopped all together? does anyone know what the latest gb kernal is? im running mathkids last version and while its still good i just miss trying out new ones
some of these DEVers are busy with Galaxy Nexus or ICS
and yes , looks like no more update only bug fix and make stable
hellcatt said:
Has kernal support for 2.3.7 stopped all together? does anyone know what the latest gb kernal is? im running mathkids last version and while its still good i just miss trying out new ones
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Mathkid does have new ones. They're just for ICS Why not just upgrade?
*if you didn't wipe /system and /boot it is NOT A FULL WIPE*
jesusice said:
Mathkid does have new ones. They're just for ICS Why not just upgrade?
*if you didn't wipe /system and /boot it is NOT A FULL WIPE*
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i know mathkid has new ones for ICS, but im not asking about ICS as the thread title shows.
if i was interested in upgrading, which at the moment im not, i wouldnt have asked this question at all.
What more could be done with gb anyway? It's been out so long and so many modifications were made, I just don't know what could be left to do.
ICS on the other hand, is pretty bare and has a lot of ground to catch up.
I was wondering if the multitasking from jt's ICS rom can be moved to tweaked 2.1 or as a zip that can be flashed in cwm. I'm sorry if this is impossible, as i am not as educated as most people on this forum. I was just curious because i like to have that ICS multitasking. Thank you
That multitasking is a new feature of ics. It requires android 4.0+ just to work.
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Agreed, I've always wished even if an ics rom was impossible a gingerbread rom with a full ics theme including multitasking and face unlock cuz that'd be awesome.
Oh well, i guess i have to wait for a finished ICS rom...
It seems that KitKat requires an ARMV7 processor to work.
There is already a project of porting KitKat to ARMV6 processors.
I'm trying up to my knowledge to port AOSP to ChaCha by adapting 4.3.1_r1, but...
Is this wasted time or work??
Thanks for your opinions.
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tokafondo said:
It seems that KitKat requires an ARMV7 processor to work.
There is already a project of porting KitKat to ARMV6 processors.
I'm trying up to my knowledge to port AOSP to ChaCha by adapting 4.3.1_r1, but...
Is this wasted time or work??
Thanks for your opinions.
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It's better that u work on CM 10.1 to remove all of bugs and make it stable instead of searching for solution to make an 4.3 ASOP ROM for chacha...
mortal19xx said:
It's better that u work on CM 10.1 to remove all of bugs and make it stable instead of searching for solution to make an 4.3 ASOP ROM for chacha...
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Why is better to fix Cyanogen Mod than trying to build from source?? Is it not interesting to have AOSP??
tokafondo said:
Why is better to fix Cyanogen Mod than trying to build from source?? Is it not interesting to have AOSP??
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It would be nice to have ANY finished CM rom. Problem is with each new release the last gets forgotten before it's finished. I've got a de-sensed stock rom to share if anyones interested? Cant post a link till I get post count over 10!
minimadmatt said:
It would be nice to have ANY finished CM rom. Problem is with each new release the last gets forgotten before it's finished. I've got a de-sensed stock rom to share if anyones interested? Cant post a link till I get post count over 10!
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What android version?
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What android version?
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As I said ANY vesrsion. The only fully working roms are the stock (not CM) Gingerbread ones and even that has a major issue with the dialler bug. I loved and had high hopes for CM9 when I first tried it but there has been no update in 18 months! These roms never get finished because the next android version comes along and interest moves to that before the previous is finished. I've tried them all and get too annoyed with the bugs so myself use stock based roms specifically Hexgores as a starting point for my own rom.
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As I said ANY vesrsion. The only fully working roms are the stock (not CM) Gingerbread ones and even that has a major issue with the dialler bug. I loved and had high hopes for CM9 when I first tried it but there has been no update in 18 months! These roms never get finished because the next android version comes along and interest moves to that before the previous is finished. I've tried them all and get too annoyed with the bugs so myself use stock based roms specifically Hexgores as a starting point for my own rom.
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What android version is your own cooked rom based on?
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What android version is your own cooked rom based on?
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The rom I use is based on the stock HTC 2.3.5 Gingerbread rom, Hexgores rom is on the main Chacha rom listing page which is a slightly de-bloated version of stock and my rom is a further de-bloated, de-sensed and tweaked version of that. My rom is great on battery life and everything works as it should e.g wifi, bluetooth, both cameras and so on.
minimadmatt said:
The rom I use is based on the stock HTC 2.3.5 Gingerbread rom, Hexgores rom is on the main Chacha rom listing page which is a slightly de-bloated version of stock and my rom is a further de-bloated, de-sensed and tweaked version of that. My rom is great on battery life and everything works as it should e.g wifi, bluetooth, both cameras and so on.
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So, no dialer bug at all? What dialer and launcher are you using?? Standard?
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So, no dialer bug at all? What dialer and launcher are you using?? Standard?
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I didn't say it had no dialler bug but has other tweaks that help with power usage. Using Holo launcher but at least everything works as it should unlike any currently available non-stock based rom. If efforts get diverted from JellyBean to KitKat roms then we will never get a finished decent CM rom.