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Is LG the old Samsung?

Name in the title says it all. Will anyone ever buy another LG phone? After the Behold II debacle, allot of people swore they would never buy Samsung again.

jrwingate6 said:
Name in the title says it all. Will anyone ever buy another LG phone? After the Behold II debacle, allot of people swore they would never buy Samsung again.
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And yet they did and I'm going so far as to predict Samsung will topple part of Apple's stranglehold on the smarthphone and tablet market.

hey jrwingate can I have your sensation

c19932 said:
hey jrwingate can I have your sensation
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I'll think about that and get back to yah.

Absolutely not. This will definitely be the last. The way they put a strangle hold on the carrier with this phone is ridiculous. They should stop making phones all together.
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Triune said:
Absolutely not. This will definitely be the last. The way they put a strangle hold on the carrier with this phone is ridiculous. They should stop making phones all together.
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How'd they put a stranglehold on the carrier?

not here
almost everything i own is lg i guarantee as i replace it wont be.
and ill play around with the g2x until a good phone comes out on verizon my update is good in august there and it looks like i can keep unlimited data, glad i didnt cancel it. i should be able to sell the g2x to pay off the etf on tmobile. and only loss will be the differnce between g2x sale and 400 - 200etf 200 phone.
wasnt expecting to stay with tmobile more than a year since i know the merger is already bought and paid for with the fcc. but tmobile has seriously disapointed me, they are nothing now like everything i have read and the people i talked to. must already be ATTMobile.

eagle1967 said:
almost everything i own is lg i guarantee as i replace it wont be.
and ill play around with the g2x until a good phone comes out on verizon my update is good in august there and it looks like i can keep unlimited data, glad i didnt cancel it. i should be able to sell the g2x to pay off the etf on tmobile. and only loss will be the differnce between g2x sale and 400 - 200etf 200 phone.
wasnt expecting to stay with tmobile more than a year since i know the merger is already bought and paid for with the fcc. but tmobile has seriously disapointed me, they are nothing now like everything i have read and the people i talked to. must already be ATTMobile.
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I will be headed for Verizon as soon as the ATT merger goes through but right now there is no point since in my area T-Mobile has the fastest data speeds by a long shot and the cheapest pricing as I am on a loyalty plan. That said, it is hit or miss with T-Mobile but if I don't get my way with customer service, I just keep calling back. I mean, I really can't think of any other provider that would have gave me a free Sensation and let me keep my G2X while still remaining contract free. Can you?

Gold Star>>>LG
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jrwingate6 said:
I will be headed for Verizon as soon as the ATT merger goes through but right now there is no point since in my area T-Mobile has the fastest data speeds by a long shot and the cheapest pricing as I am on a loyalty plan. That said, it is hit or miss with T-Mobile but if I don't get my way with customer service, I just keep calling back. I mean, I really can't think of any other provider that would have gave me a free Sensation and let me keep my G2X while still remaining contract free. Can you?
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http://androidheadlines.com/2011/06/verizons-new-data-plans-broken-down-in-complete-detail.html I will stay
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You'd think that after two different manufacturers both produce craptastic phones for the same carrier then the blame should really be leaning towards T-Mobile's allowance of said phones into their line-up..?
Previous Samsung Vibrant user here and still the same T-Mo customer service bullsh*t with the G2x.
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S0NiX0928 said:
You'd think that after two different manufacturers both produce craptastic phones for the same carrier then the blame should really be leaning towards T-Mobile's allowance of said phones into their line-up..?
Previous Samsung Vibrant user here and still the same T-Mo customer service bullsh*t with the G2x.
I was a Vibrant user as well and I loved almost everything about the phone except the GPS.
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@jrwingate6
The Vibrant gave me GPS issues constantly... I guess this was a bigger issue for me since I was travelling a lot at the time. The GPS issues were widespread and poorly handled by Samsung in my opinion, also didn't like how they dropped the Vibrant and replaced it with a clone with a FFC under the disguise of Galaxy S 4G.
The final straw was once I started to notice my notification bar clock burning into the screen (along with some of the constantly displayed icons). I bailed before the problems got worse and argued with T-Mo till they at least gave me a free upgrade.
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I'll never say "I'll never buy from "X" place" again. You aren't going to make a liar out of me. Samsung botched the vibrant (and a few others) and I along with nearly everyone else is drooling over the gs2. With this many different devices with different hardware and software variants, some are bound to be lemons. What I'd really wish t-mobile(and other carriers) would do is offer to reset phone upgrades for people with specific devices that have well known and documented issues. My old vibrant, for instance... everytime I call to complain about the gps issue, EVERY csr tells me this is a known issue and sends me a replacement. I've swapped it out 6 times in 9 months and even asked for a different phone of equal value and been shot down, as recent as 2 weeks ago. I don't want a free phone, I just want to be able to spend ANOTHER $200 on a "high-end" phone that works.
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Edit: Not worth it.

tweezit said:
Edit: Not worth it.
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I started this thread and never once did I say I wouldn't buy another LG. When the behold II debacle hit, I never said I wouldn't buy a Samsung. This thread was simply starting the obvious. LG is now screwing its customers over just like Samsung used to. But yea. I don't believe for one second half these people will never buy LG again because as soon as the Nexus 3 hits, there is going to be a mass exodus of LG users. You also see how far boycotting samsung got you. No where. They now make some of the best devices out and have no problem selling them.
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Merger to be approved march 2012

http://www.tmonews.com/2011/06/t-mobile-comments-on-new-fcc-filings-calls-opponents/
All I know is that I am.switching to.sprint waiting.on.the nexus or getting the evo after vacation
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Nooooooooooooooooooo....i hate at&ampt...i will go to sprint if this merger is approved.
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TangBaby said:
Nooooooooooooooooooo....i hate at&ampt...i will go to sprint if this merger is approved.
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I've learned in my life not to listen to statements that made by others. I wait to hear an official statement directly from T-Mobile themselves. Tmo news is not an official T-Mobile organization.
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But that is what T-Mobile said,its in quotes but att said it was due
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Drzfr3shboialex said:
But that is what T-Mobile said,its in quotes but att said it was due
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Just wait until you hear or read an official announcement or statement from T-Mobile and there is no way you could pay me enough to go back to Sprint
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What happened with sprint
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Drzfr3shboialex said:
What happened with sprint
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We were part of the 1,000 customers a week they dropped for 12 weeks back in 2007. They just dropped us after 6 years of being loyal customers. No notice, no warning, nothing. Just couldn't use our phones one day. Got a letter post marked a month later saying they were dropping customers with to many calls with complaints each month. Funny thing is, we may have called twice a year at most and that was only to pay the bill if me or my wife couldn't get online to pay the bill. We gave up and went to T-Mobile after 2 days of getting nowhere with them. They also had the nerve to charge us an etf for both lines plus an additional $100 per line for a texting plan we never had and tried to take it oyt of our bank account. My wife got the bank involved and fought it so they sent us a huge final bill. My wife told them to shove it. Haven't heard from them since.
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truckerdewd said:
We were part of the 1,000 customers a week they dropped for 12 weeks back in 2007. They just dropped us after 6 years of being loyal customers. No notice, no warning, nothing. Just couldn't use our phones one day. Got a letter post marked a month later saying they were dropping customers with to many calls with complaints each month. Funny thing is, we may have called twice a year at most and that was only to pay the bill if me or my wife couldn't get online to pay the bill. We gave up and went to T-Mobile after 2 days of getting nowhere with them. They also had the nerve to charge us an etf for both lines plus an additional $100 per line for a texting plan we never had and tried to take it oyt of our bank account. My wife got the bank involved and fought it so they sent us a huge final bill. My wife told them to shove it. Haven't heard from them since.
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To be fair, Sprint's Customer Service has had a complete 180 since they. It is mostly due to cases like this and the horrible reputation they got that led to a mass exodus of customers.
I got an Evo on launch day (June 2010) and my experience with Sprint CS was always really good. If it hadn't been for their ****ty data speeds and stalled WiMax rollout, I would probably still be with them.

My dad is letting me switch to sprint, I hate att for buying T-Mobile us.the customers are suffering for att's mistakes
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This would be the second time I become an ATT customer. neither time would be by choice. Hehe

itmustbejj said:
To be fair, Sprint's Customer Service has had a complete 180 since they. It is mostly due to cases like this and the horrible reputation they got that led to a mass exodus of customers.
I got an Evo on launch day (June 2010) and my experience with Sprint CS was always really good. If it hadn't been for their ****ty data speeds and stalled WiMax rollout, I would probably still be with them.
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Still would not switch to Sprint after what they did to us. Yes I tend to hold a grudge.

I'll be headed for VZW, my experiences with AT&T in all their incarnations of the name, haven't been good over a 40+ year time period.
Sprint is too expensive for what I want/need.
I'll see what AT&T does for a month or two but I'm off to VZW as soon as AT&T irritates me and experience tells me that'll be the very first time I call CS and get their standard "We don't care, we don't have to care, we're the phone company!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9e3dTOJi0o
Nothing has changed, different company now, same attitude. only now Ernestine doesn't speak English....

Ya I just hope this merger doesn't go thru, sprint shoulda bought out Tmobile, this blows. I will go to sprint if this buyout happens.
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bigscottie said:
Ya I just hope this merger doesn't go thru, sprint shoulda bought out Tmobile, this blows. I will go to sprint if this buyout happens.
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I came from sprint and absolutely HATED them. Awful customer service, overpriced phones and ridiculous fees.
I must say though, AT&T BLOOOOOOOOWS. I guess its a matter of preference as to which qualifies as "the lesser of two evils."
I do love the freedom of SIM cards though.
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I think its been said before but I think Google should buy T-Mobile. Lets start a petition

corwest said:
I think its been said before but I think Google should buy T-Mobile. Lets start a petition
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Looks like they'd have to buy AT&T too. Ha. Though, I'm pretty sure if they got into the mobile service provider business every other provider would be screwed. Hmm.

Dang. this is not good

thienma said:
Dang. this is not good
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Let's not go jumping to conclusions. I'll take AT&T over Sprint or Verizon any day even though T-Mobile is the best of the 4
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At&t blows. If the merger is approved I'm jumping boat to sprint.

Would this affect my service? I have better service where I live on T-Mobile then my girlfriend does on AT&T. Will they just merge all the cell towers as well or what?

[Q] If T-Mobile is sold to AT&T...

Will you switch services and what phone will you buy?

Depends on the prepaid prices and if current prices will be honored. If not, back to Virgin Mobile I will go. They're getting some good android phones, hopefully dev support picks up for them.

This depends on whether or not I can back out of my contract without paying. If I can, then I'm off to Verizon. I won't stick with AT&T if I don't have to, and I won't go back to Sprint.

Never had an at&t contract or knew anyone that did. I take it they such, huh?
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Can't think of a single pleasant experience I ever had with them in a single year of use. Yet in the three years I've been with T-Mobile, I have only had one unpleasant experience.

What? AT&T already bought T-Mobile at like the beginning of this year. I thought they were just waiting on something before they changed things.
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yentlequible said:
What? AT&T already bought T-Mobile at like the beginning of this year. I thought they were just waiting on something before they changed things.
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Not yet, It needs to be approved that its not in violation of any monopoly laws.

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Not yet, It needs to be approved that its not in violation of any monopoly laws.
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What GSM carriers besides the two of them exist in North America? I mean, on a nation-wide scale. Because quite frankly, I can't think of a single one besides AT&T & T-Mobile.
If they're the only two nation-wide ones, and AT&T becomes the ONLY nation-wide GSM carrier, doesn't that make it a monopoly?

tehjeh said:
What GSM carriers besides the two of them exist in North America? I mean, on a nation-wide scale. Because quite frankly, I can't think of a single one besides AT&T & T-Mobile.
If they're the only two nation-wide ones, and AT&T becomes the ONLY nation-wide GSM carrier, doesn't that make it a monopoly?
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That's what the FCC is discussing.

Sprint and Verizon aren't nationwide?

Someone pls enlighten me what are monopoly laws
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Gsm
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HolyGhostBoy1 said:
Someone pls enlighten me what are monopoly laws
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Basically it means a company cant go around and purchase all of one industry and corner the market on a certain product or service and be the only one to offer it. Correct me if im wrong.
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GDofWR420 said:
Basically it means a company cant go around and purchase all of one industry and corner the market on a certain product or service and be the only one to offer it. Correct me if im wrong.
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Yup, that's the idea of it. There has to be competition, or else they can really set the price to whatever they want, blahblahblah.

A while back, ATT nearly was a monopoly, and they were forced to split into many parts and sell those off to increase competition.. Now they are buying everyone back again lol. I used to have Cingular for my mobile service.. then they were bought by ATT about 8-10 years ago. Didn't have a problem with the merge, and my reception actually improved.
I remember having a bad experience with ATT when I moved and transferred my DSL service to my new apt. The service really sucked (it was too far from the connection office), and I wanted to cancel, but was told I still had 3 months left on the old contract. So I let the 3 months go by so I didn't have to pay an ETF.. after that, I called to cancel, and now, they said when I moved, I entered into a new yearly contract at the new address, and would be charged a $250 ETF. I did no such thing, and didn't sign any new contract. It was BS, and took over a month to get rid of them.
Was so pissed off I switched to Sprint later that year, and haven't had any ATT services for about 5 years. I'm happy with T-mo, and their pre-paid $50/month plan is pretty nice. I hope ATT doesn't change that, otherwise I'll be switching carriers again.

Homestly tmobile sucks,especially their customee service..they do provide the weakest lineup compare to other carriers..they dont have roll over minutes or one fav person as your favorite to use unlimites minutes..so for a person who talks a lot and has 1500 minutes still doesnt cut it!!
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daxecutioner24 said:
Homestly tmobile sucks,especially their customee service..they do provide the weakest lineup compare to other carriers..they dont have roll over minutes or one fav person as your favorite to use unlimites minutes..so for a person who talks a lot and has 1500 minutes still doesnt cut it!!
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BS. First off, I have 3 phones that use a shared 1500 minutes, and I use my phone all the time...never even come close to using all my minutes. Second...if you do, just go to the unlimited plan for $49.99, can't beat that.
mm0

pudgybunnyBry said:
Sprint and Verizon aren't nationwide?
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They are but they are CDMA
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muzicman0 said:
BS. First off, I have 3 phones that use a shared 1500 minutes, and I use my phone all the time...never even come close to using all my minutes. Second...if you do, just go to the unlimited plan for $49.99, can't beat that.
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+1 My wife and I have had T-Mobile for about 10 yrs now and have always been happy. I have 4 lines (2 with 3000 minutes + unlimited text/data and 2 with 600 minutes and 300 texts). I have always been given great service the few times I had to call. They have always given us the new user discount 18-19 months into the contract for cheaper upgrades too. My work cell used to be AT&T, but then changed over to Verizon and I found both of them to be lacking in every way. I always check the Costco phone kiosk for deals. picked up a BB pearl the week it hit for $29, a Samsung Highlight the week it hit for free, and my SGS4G for $50 bucks back in February when it came out for allowing them to change my number on the renewed plan... lol. I missed the MT4g for a penny (yeah, $0.01) by a week for the wife, but still only paid $150 for it.
I'm not sure what I'll do. I guess that depends on what AT&T does with this side of their house. Might swing a GS2 in with a change over if/when it happens. All I know is T-Mobile has always been great to us and we have stayed b/c of that and they have the best plans/pricing out there.

hailthethief said:
Not yet, It needs to be approved that its not in violation of any monopoly laws.
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crosses fingers that it violates monopoly laws

Samsung makes me sad :(

Samsung were amazing with the Galaxy S line, no complaints there. The Infuse came along and it was pretty much the Galaxy's weirdly put together and slightly upgraded step brother. And as we all know, a hold over for the S2. Then the S2 comes out and everyone's excited. Hell yeah, party! Greatest phone ever made, yeah cool, whatever.
And we all love our phones. And then the Skyrocket. The freakin Skyrocket... This phone comes out a month after the S2. I mean, I love Samsung, but this phone release trend is outrageous. Yes people like HTC release a ton per year, but over many carriers. Samsung has three phones for the same carrier in six months. This just irks me. Please discuss.
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and get used to it buddy. specially on AT&T. LTE is just starting up on AT&T. Meaning there is a wave of phones not far from shore. Samsung, HTC, Motorola it hasnt even started.

Optimus-Prime said:
and get used to it buddy. specially on AT&T. LTE is just starting up on AT&T. Meaning there is a wave of phones not far from shore. Samsung, HTC, Motorola it hasnt even started.
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Android eco-system enables this. This is how they are outpacing apple.

S2 came out several months ago didn't it? I believe it was the US carriers creating the giant delay while everyone else in the world enjoyed it for a few months.

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and get used to it buddy. specially on AT&T. LTE is just starting up on AT&T. Meaning there is a wave of phones not far from shore. Samsung, HTC, Motorola it hasnt even started.
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Yep - I think you're right. I heard at LEAST 2 more Samsungs by the EOY for Android/ATT alone. Plus a few more for TMobile, Sprint and Ver.

Guys its not like iPhones where the new phone takes an absolute dump on your phone. Samsung puts their best foot forward on most of their phones. Keyword MOST. the new phones are just incorperating the new technology such as LTE for att. Just enjoy the phone you have knowing that its not out of date yet since the new iphone only has 1/2 a gig of ram
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I meant to say the new iphone takes a dunp on your old iphone. I accidently left it open. I didn't mean your samsung phone. If we look at the galaxy s vs the 4 the sgs had a power vr sgx 540 where as the 4 only had a 535. Not trying to turn this into a iphone vs android. Just using the new iphone old iphone model.
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The moment you walk out with your phone its already obsolete because there is a new one coming. I actually perfer this "abundance" of phone. it gives us options.

I just don't like the fact that reps have no idea of up coming phones but the net does. I specifically asked about gs2 when I bought my infuse and att claimed to have no idea, 1.5 months later and its released.
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I dont think the stores actually have an idea of what they are getting, keep in mind there are different departments which handle different stuff.
im guessing the retail part, just sells the device...
or they are complete asses and just dont say anything....

They just don't say anything. I have a friend who works for verizon and they learn about what the phone is as far as features before the phones come out
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sorry to say this, but this thread is stupid.
that is like getting mad at mercedes, "i just bought this E class for 50,000$, now they come out with the new CLS!". haha

when you made your Android purchase, you have to accept that one fact that the turnover of devices are very very high... If you don't like this then you'd be better off with the iPhone.
Otherwise, think about how your phone, even though it might be like 4-5 devices behind the newest device, is still so much better than the newest iPhone in the market.

People really don't understand the point of this thread.... I just look at other companies that don't release 4 phones for one carrier in a 6 month span. I love Samsung just not this crap.
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netnerd said:
sorry to say this, but this thread is stupid.
that is like getting mad at mercedes, "i just bought this E class for 50,000$, now they come out with the new CLS!". haha
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No, this is quite a bit different.
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While I do agree with you to an extent, I think you miss an important factor that is causing this.
The Galaxy S line was 3G HSPA. Then AT&T launched their HSPA+ network, and the Infuse is "4G" with HSPA+ and halfway between the SGS and the SGS 2 lines. So the Infuse was thrown out there so Samsung had a high end HSPA+ phone. Then the SGS 2 came out as the full upgrade from the SGS line. It also had HSPA+ as that's still the dominant "4G" network for AT&T right now. Shortly after they release the SGS2 LTE with 4G LTE so they again have a high end phone on the best network AT&T has to offer.
So while it seems like they have released 4 phones in a year and a half, 3 of them upgraded their network support. They probably could have waited on the SGS 2 and just released an SGS2 LTE, but I suspect the SGS2 will drop in price faster than the LTE version will as the LTE network grows, giving them maybe a $100 and a $200 model, or even $150/200.
I don't think you'll see them release as many now that we don't have any network upgrades for another couple of years when they upgrade to LTE Advanced (and I suspect that will roll into LTE phones sooner rather than later).
But yeah, I know what you mean. I would have been pretty annoyed if I had bought an SGS2 and then the SGS2 LTE came out, but the LTE came out soon enough after the SGS2 that you could have returned the SGS2 for the SGS2 LTE if you wanted. They were JUST over 30 days apart, but the Skyrocket was announced before 30 days was up, so you could have returned immediately and used a temporary phone for a couple of days.

This thread isn't stupid...it makes a point
Their frequency of phone releases addresses AT&T's network upgrade needs, not Samsung.
AT&T contracts the OEM's to make devices for them. AT&T is paying boatloads for each device run. Thus they have an incentive to move 'old' devices out as soon as possible to make room for the latest tier. It's about recouping cost with device/accessory sales and new contracts.
Keep in mind, that unless you have confirmed LTE service in your area, paying full price for an LTE phone wouldn't make much sense. On contract? Sure and just wait for your LTE coverage to arrive.
AT&T got caught due to VZW's strong LTE push and the 'postponed' T-Mo M&A. So they have to make an LTE push in profitable markets and have a device that can answer VZW's offerings.
The bottom line in my opinion is for you the consumer to do your own homework and not rely on the salespeople to 'educate' you. They won't. They aren't trained to.
You have this forum, Google and more web rags on mobile tech than you could possibly read. A wealth of info for free where you can research and plan your purchase.
My Infuse and wife's Cappy are expected to remain in service for another 3 yrs. At that point I'll sell them to help offset the costs of their upgrades. If there's a need to upgrade soon than that, it'll be because the new device will fulfill a need these devices couldn't possibly fill.
Both of these phones are powerful and feature rich so I feel confident in their longevity.
Although, that flexible AMOLED screen tech is sexy!!! I'd love to see device designs!

Kevinr678 said:
People really don't understand the point of this thread.... I just look at other companies that don't release 4 phones for one carrier in a 6 month span. I love Samsung just not this crap.
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then you should just be a sheep and get iphone!
choices is good! 4.5 too big? get 4.3 gs2!
4. 3 too small? get 4.5 gs2! now everyone is happy!
that is like complaining fast food restaurants sell hamburger and chicken sandwich instead of just selling one kind!
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AT&T got caught due to VZW's strong LTE push and the 'postponed' T-Mo M&A. So they have to make an LTE push in profitable markets and have a device that can answer VZW's offerings.
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now att have another problem, Verizon give you 4gb of LTE for 30$
if att don't follow suit, I might get galaxy nexus with 4gb of LTE for 30$

netnerd said:
then you should just be a sheep and get iphone!
choices is good! 4.5 too big? get 4.3 gs2!
4. 3 too small? get 4.5 gs2! now everyone is happy!
that is like complaining fast food restaurants sell hamburger and chicken sandwich instead of just selling one kind!
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now att have another problem, Verizon give you 4gb of LTE for 30$
if att don't follow suit, I might get galaxy nexus with 4gb of LTE for 30$
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The reason you piss people off so much is due mainly in part to how of an ass you are. Personally I don't care for iphones. Another thing is why is everyone who has sn iphone is a sheep? Some people genuinally prefer them. I think you talk way too much without thinking, and you really need to stay out of people's topics if your main objective is to cut them down, try to make every point they make seem invalid, and in a general sense just get on people's nerves.
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AJerman said:
While I do agree with you to an extent, I think you miss an important factor that is causing this.
The Galaxy S line was 3G HSPA. Then AT&T launched their HSPA+ network, and the Infuse is "4G" with HSPA+ and halfway between the SGS and the SGS 2 lines. So the Infuse was thrown out there so Samsung had a high end HSPA+ phone. Then the SGS 2 came out as the full upgrade from the SGS line. It also had HSPA+ as that's still the dominant "4G" network for AT&T right now. Shortly after they release the SGS2 LTE with 4G LTE so they again have a high end phone on the best network AT&T has to offer.
So while it seems like they have released 4 phones in a year and a half, 3 of them upgraded their network support. They probably could have waited on the SGS 2 and just released an SGS2 LTE, but I suspect the SGS2 will drop in price faster than the LTE version will as the LTE network grows, giving them maybe a $100 and a $200 model, or even $150/200.
I don't think you'll see them release as many now that we don't have any network upgrades for another couple of years when they upgrade to LTE Advanced (and I suspect that will roll into LTE phones sooner rather than later).
But yeah, I know what you mean. I would have been pretty annoyed if I had bought an SGS2 and then the SGS2 LTE came out, but the LTE came out soon enough after the SGS2 that you could have returned the SGS2 for the SGS2 LTE if you wanted. They were JUST over 30 days apart, but the Skyrocket was announced before 30 days was up, so you could have returned immediately and used a temporary phone for a couple of days.
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Thank you. This is exactly what I was saying. And yes, I agree that the main issue is more than likely carrier related especially since Att is the only carrier that released a Skyrocket. This is what I'm looking for, discussion. Not for someone to sit here, call me stupid, and bash my topic and opinion in every way possible.
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Left T-Mobile for Verizon, Now the Jokes on Me

Weeks ago when I made the decision to go with the S3 I decided that I didn't want to get stuck with the oddball US version (ie T-Mobile with no LTE).
After over a decade as a T-Mobile customer I jumped ship for Verizon and ordered my shiny new S3.
Now I find that the Verizon version is the only S3 on the planet with a locked bootloader AND Verizon has made absurd changes to the UI such as a persistent ongoing wifi notification with no way to disable it. They also REMOVED the standard wifi toggle.
http://tinyurl.com/c67tzxm
I haven't even paid my first bill yet and I am irritated as hell with all of this. I guess the grass isn't always that much greener. Blah !
Sorry, just had to vent a bit. I'm normally the last person to complain about anything but I guess the stupidity of all of this tripped me off.

Stresa said:
Weeks ago when I made the decision to go with the S3 I decided that I didn't want to get stuck with the oddball US version (ie T-Mobile with no LTE).
After over a decade as a T-Mobile customer I jumped ship for Verizon and ordered my shiny new S3.
Now I find that the Verizon version is the only S3 on the planet with a locked bootloader AND Verizon has made absurd changes to the UI such as a persistent ongoing wifi notification with no way to disable it. They also REMOVED the standard wifi toggle.
http://tinyurl.com/c67tzxm
I haven't even paid my first bill yet and I am irritated as hell with all of this. I guess the grass isn't always that much greener. Blah !
Sorry, just had to vent a bit. I'm normally the last person to complain about anything but I guess the stupidity of all of this tripped me off.
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Ya I sugget att or sprint. I have Verizon and if they cancelled my unlimited plan I would cancel them becuase of their outrageous prices and various other problems
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Actually the t-mobile version is the most capable version out of the box amongst all s3's. no lte but can still connect to more worldwide high speed than any other vatiatio as of yet.
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r3a1ist said:
Actually the t-mobile version is the most capable version out of the box amongst all s3's. no lte but can still connect to more worldwide high speed than any other vatiatio as of yet.
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I agree on this and that's why I went with Tmobile to
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The persistant wifi notification exists on the AT&T version as well.
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That's why I left Verizon and went to tmobile lol.
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Jirv311 said:
The persistant wifi notification exists on the AT&T version as well.
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It is a different notification, not the connected one. It will ask you to connect even if wifi is off from what I understand. (I may be wrong on that)
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Money Back Guarantee
Stresa said:
Weeks ago when I made the decision to go with the S3 I decided that I didn't want to get stuck with the oddball US version (ie T-Mobile with no LTE).
After over a decade as a T-Mobile customer I jumped ship for Verizon and ordered my shiny new S3.
Now I find that the Verizon version is the only S3 on the planet with a locked bootloader AND Verizon has made absurd changes to the UI such as a persistent ongoing wifi notification with no way to disable it. They also REMOVED the standard wifi toggle.
http://tinyurl.com/c67tzxm
I haven't even paid my first bill yet and I am irritated as hell with all of this. I guess the grass isn't always that much greener. Blah !
Sorry, just had to vent a bit. I'm normally the last person to complain about anything but I guess the stupidity of all of this tripped me off.
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If you are within 14 days of activating the phone, you should be able to just cancel without any penalty according to this link:
http://aboutus.verizonwireless.com/bestnetwork/overview.html
This look like an older page, but it mentions a 30 day money back guarantee:
http://www.verizonwireless.com/slpconsumer/

I almost made this mistake. Happy I stuck with my GSM Galaxy Nexus.
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ATHORNFAM2 said:
Ya I sugget att or sprint. I have Verizon and if they cancelled my unlimited plan I would cancel them becuase of their outrageous prices and various other problems
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No one will cancel your unlimited plan. All u need is to go read FAQ on vzw site.
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r3a1ist said:
Actually the t-mobile version is the most capable version out of the box amongst all s3's. no lte but can still connect to more worldwide high speed than any other vatiatio as of yet.
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Yeah, I understand that but my days of traveling outside of the USA are over. I have zero plans for any international travel these days so in my case the LTE route made the most sense.

Now that the phone has root I'm around 90% sure the notification will be removed by users soon enough. The toggle still irks me but the devs are still making astounding progress. Everyone's jumping on the "we're doomed" bandwagon a bit soon, myself included. I didn't think we'd get root, but we have. I also didn't think it was even possible to get custom roms but they're making progress right now, just getting around the bootloader. Consider the fact that the phone isn't even in everyones hands yet and I think we've got some hope left. Just let them do their thing.

GrkEngineer said:
I almost made this mistake. Happy I stuck with my GSM Galaxy Nexus.
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+1

ZServ said:
Now that the phone has root I'm around 90% sure the notification will be removed by users soon enough. The toggle still irks me but the devs are still making astounding progress. Everyone's jumping on the "we're doomed" bandwagon a bit soon, myself included. I didn't think we'd get root, but we have. I also didn't think it was even possible to get custom roms but they're making progress right now, just getting around the bootloader. Consider the fact that the phone isn't even in everyones hands yet and I think we've got some hope left. Just let them do their thing.
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Good news because I was laughing at the Verizon version all day! Sorry but I was
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jgalan14 said:
I agree on this and that's why I went with Tmobile to
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I sincerely hope that Tmo improves in the area of updating devices for you with the S3.
I'm an original Galaxy S owner (Vibrant on Tmo) and they completely abandoned it within 9 months of release. The Vibrant is the ONLY Galaxy S that was never officially updated to Gingerbread, and the GPS on this device has never worked properly.
I'm running an ICS rom on my Vibrant these days, but it still has it's idiosyncrasies that are annoying as hell.
The ironic thing is that I chose the Verizon S3 because I thought I'd be getting the "common" US version of the phone. As it turns out it's more of an oddball than the rest. sigh.
My great hope is that the stock version of the phone runs so well that I really won't care if I can't reflash it. I am also quite confident that we'll get an official version of Jellybean so I'm not feeling completely hopeless about the situation.

cwalker29 said:
Good news because I was laughing at the Verizon version all day! Sorry but I was
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Haha, no matter. I'm facepalming myself at how much Verizon has screwed up this launch. Delaying the phone, shipping them seemingly randomly, the locked bootlauncher, and the bugged 4g. Verizon's made a huge mess of this launch and I'm sure it'll lead to some blushing and "please love us please?" treatment.

Stresa said:
Weeks ago when I made the decision to go with the S3 I decided that I didn't want to get stuck with the oddball US version (ie T-Mobile with no LTE).
After over a decade as a T-Mobile customer I jumped ship for Verizon and ordered my shiny new S3.
Now I find that the Verizon version is the only S3 on the planet with a locked bootloader AND Verizon has made absurd changes to the UI such as a persistent ongoing wifi notification with no way to disable it. They also REMOVED the standard wifi toggle.
http://tinyurl.com/c67tzxm
I haven't even paid my first bill yet and I am irritated as hell with all of this. I guess the grass isn't always that much greener. Blah !
Sorry, just had to vent a bit. I'm normally the last person to complain about anything but I guess the stupidity of all of this tripped me off.
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Maybe you still have time to cancel without EFT and come back to Tmobile...

chronos7 said:
Maybe you still have time to cancel without EFT and come back to Tmobile...
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The complicating factor in my situation is that my wife switched with me, and she got the Droid 4 which she really likes (being the type that just HAS to have a hardware keyboard).
I'm probably going to have to stay put for now.
If the stock S3 runs smoothly and we are able to root and "fix" the wifi notification thing, I'll be satisfied for now.

Sad face... SORRY DUDE.
I'm a little fed up with T-mobile myself, and I've been with them since they were VOICESTREAM... so a LOOONG TIME. Up until June 2011 my 4 lines all had the $2.99 unlimited data (no 3g/4g)+30 mms deal... We were contract free for YEARS AND YEARS. Unlimited everything, blah blah blah... using iPhone's on edge so 3g/4g didn't matter... (still using iphones btw, except me - now trying the gs3). Then with the rumors of the AT&T merger in June 2011, I decided to lock in to a contract thinking I would get UNLIMITED data on AT&T for whatever the t-mobile price was ($20 for unlimited data, with the first 2gb at 4g? or something like that- whatever the promotion was)... At the time (6/2011) I didn't buy any new handsets even though all 4 lines qualified for full upgrade, because we all have iPhone 4's... I was told that IF/WHEN I wanted to buy a handset I could at full upgrade price *WITHOUT* re-extending that contract...
WELL - Guess what, NOPE. If I buy phones NOW, I have to re-sign for another 2 years starting from the purchase date of the phone.... I complained, moaned, *****ed.... They don't care.
RIGHT NOW I'LL SAY: Come June 2012, I'm LEAVING T-mobile and NEVER LOOKING BACK. I can go to a pre-paid service, save money, get better service, high speed data, etc... That may change in 12 months, but we'll see.

I jumped from Verizon to t-mo simply because after having a thunderbolt, razr, and a gnex I know exactly how bad most everything with lte is on battery life. Now on t-mobile I'm getting 4+ hours of screen time and 23 meg d/l. Best of both world for me.