Hello.
Don't hate me for asking. Trying to understand.
When downloading a ROM, does the ROM includes a built-in Kernel?
I see a lot of talks about Kernels and I see that there are so many. But I am not sure if I am suppose to separately download a kernel before flashing, or do ROMs each contain a built-in Kernel?
Thanks!
Depends on the device, and depends on the ROM. Which are you using or interested in?
If the bootloader for your phone is locked, then the answer is no, the ROM will not provide a kernel.
benyben123 said:
Hello.
Don't hate me for asking. Trying to understand.
When downloading a ROM, does the ROM includes a built-in Kernel?
I see a lot of talks about Kernels and I see that there are so many. But I am not sure if I am suppose to separately download a kernel before flashing, or do ROMs each contain a built-in Kernel?
Thanks!
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nicktastique said:
Depends on the device, and depends on the ROM. Which are you using or interested in?
If the bootloader for your phone is locked, then the answer is no, the ROM will not provide a kernel.
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Thank you!
I am talking about any of the ROM that are to be found in the Dev section. CM7, MIUI, and so and so on... (there are so many).
How does one know if the ROM has a kernel or not?
Bootloader? I don't even know what that is
All i know is that my phone is running MIUI right now (installed by the previous owner)
If the bootloader for your phone is locked, then the answer is no, the ROM will not provide a kernel.[/QUOTE]
Not trying to be a ass, but if your bootoader is locked then you will not be able to flash a rom just trying to clear that up mate
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If the bootloader for your phone is locked, then the answer is no, the ROM will not provide a kernel.
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Not trying to be a ass, but if your bootoader is locked then you will not be able to flash a rom just trying to clear that up mate
Why would my Bootloader will be locked?
My bootloader is locked (Droid 3), and I'm running CM7.
If a device can be rooted, custom ROMs can probably be installed on it.
WickedDaze said:
If the bootloader for your phone is locked, then the answer is no, the ROM will not provide a kernel.
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Not trying to be a ass, but if your bootoader is locked then you will not be able to flash a rom just trying to clear that up mate
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Not trying to be a ass, but if your bootoader is locked then you will not be able to flash a rom just trying to clear that up mate[/QUOTE]
Each one has there own kernel for the examples you have typed out, there are other kernel's that you can flash once you have downloaded a rom, but that all has to do with personal preference I would have to say
Thanks you
Vendors lock bootloaders to prevent people from doing things they don't like - like rooting and modding their phones.
benyben123 said:
Why would my Bootloader will be locked?
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Vendors lock bootloaders to prevent people from doing things they don't like - like rooting and modding their phones.
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Ohhhhh !!!! I see now!!! Ok thanks so much! I understand
nicktastique said:
Vendors lock bootloaders to prevent people from doing things they don't like - like rooting and modding their phones.
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So people are forced to use the launchers and stuff they paid money for to be developed ;-).
So if you use a cooked ROM it also contains the proper kernel. if you can install not original rom (not update.zip provided by your brand ) then your boot is unlocked.
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Courtesy of Invisiblek and Samung-Updates.com.
This is the full Odin flashble of I535VRBLI5, ENJOY!
http://live.samsung-updates.com/
or
http://samsung-updates.com/device/?id=SCH-I535
Its not rootable with current methods and re-locks the boot loader.
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If You like it, please THANKS and/or DONATE Invisiblek
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1853337
compare stock odin firmware/flashable with some custom/modified rom ?
Nice!
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Now this is official right? And is this confirmed working?
i was told that
Its not rootable with current methods and re-locks the boot loader.
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it is a leak, so as usual with leaks you flash it at own responsibility
If you go to android development and look at incubus' post you can get an cwm or twrp flashable rooted. Odex but works amazingly.
Sent from my SCH-I535 using xda premium
Can anybody who has flashed this leak post some pictures/screen shots of what's different on 4.1? Obviously I know about Google now
Thank Me Later said:
Can anybody who has flashed this leak post some pictures/screen shots of what's different on 4.1? Obviously I know about Google now
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1853337&page=538
Here is a link to more info on this...
SoMean said:
compare stock odin firmware/flashable with some custom/modified rom ?
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If you read invisiblek's post the only modification he's made is rooting it... otherwise completely stock.
Credit to jucytec for sharing the leak to xda
Sent from my Goonified Paranoid Jelly Droid Incredible 2
Been waiting a while for this leak :good: , still running plain CM10 on my GS3 wondering how long it would take those devs to incorporate this into CM.
This is excellent.
Would this be flashed by just placing on SD Card then booting to recovery and selecting it
beri said:
Would this be flashed by just placing on SD Card then booting to recovery and selecting it
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You would have to flash in Odin...the same way you would do if returning to stock from a root.....
jamezr said:
You would have to flash in Odin...the same way you would do if returning to stock from a root.....
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Actually it depends on what version you use. The Incubus version can be flashed by placing it on your SD card and booting into your custom recovery.
If you do it this way you will not lose root either.
Before you ask the only modification Incubus made was to root & Odex
I have been running the leak since he posted it yesterday morning. I have no issues but as always mileage varies from device to device.
If it really is true that the version in this thread can't be rooted with current methods, then I would stay away from it. You never know when root will be restored so you could be stuck with a locked device for some time.
God
I can't wait for a Synergy rom based on this! They ar eby far the most stable roms I have used
keep in mind people if you flash that link with odin it will lock your bootloader and you wont be able to root.
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9646gt said:
God
I can't wait for a Synergy rom based on this! They ar eby far the most stable roms I have used
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eschelon released it already
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9646gt said:
God
I can't wait for a Synergy rom based on this! They ar eby far the most stable roms I have used
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They are already have on up.
could you stop with usual xda non-topic talk
and concentrate on fact that this is factory image not some cwm flashable
SoMean said:
could you stop with usual xda non-topic talk
and concentrate on fact that this is factory image not some cwm flashable
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You kidding? We got the leak this morning. Roms have already been built 12 hours earlier then this thread. Do you think people are really excited about the factory image? People want Roms that they can flash.
i have ICS and i want to just reset the whole thing back to gingerbread, so that it will perform better, cuz ICS is really slow on mine. it is not rooted, and the model is GT-19020A. Thanks, if you can help
EDIT: also, how can i tell if my phone is GSM Unlocked?
desarter ggingsa
pleace said:
i have ICS and i want to just reset the whole thing back to gingerbread, so that it will perform better, cuz ICS is really slow on mine. it is not rooted, and the model is GT-19020A. Thanks, if you can help
EDIT: also, how can i tell if my phone is GSM Unlocked?
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As far as i know there is no way to actually go backwards on your OS.
You could search for the the 2.3.... for the nexus S but i doubt that youll be in any luck.
What i reccomend is to take it to the next step.
I have heard good things about it.
Not sure if the Trim does any difference to nexus S but i believe it might help.
Try the following ... was about to flash it yesterday to mine but the download link doesnt seem to work !
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2402655
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pleace said:
EDIT: also, how can i tell if my phone is GSM Unlocked?
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From what i remember ... if there is an unlocked lock when boot up your phone, that means it is unlocked.
I thingx that it means that the phone is unlocked dont know if the SIM is as well.
Maybe someone else might shed more light into that
Of you really want gingerbread, find the oxygen ROM thread in the development section. It is a great ROM. Or try the new CyanogenMod nightly 4.3 ROM. There are a few bugs, but it is quite quick.
Edit: are you still on stock, unrooted?
Just do a Google search for nexus s stock images and you should be able to get them off Google developers or something. Just make sure you have adb installed. Fastboot unlock, flash factory 2.3 images and relock fastboot. Tell me if you need me to go in depth and I'll post a more in depth tutorial as o in bed right now
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BTW the unlocked padlock on the turn on screen means your boot loader is unlocked but your GSM may not be unlocked.
Sent from my Nexus S
So I got a used Atrix 2, and the previous owner had installed an SBF (or whatever it is) over all his previous rooted stuff.
So it's fully clean/legit now.
What I want to do is install kitkat on this phone (jealousy got to me) and I'm pretty pissed off for not getting the new features of the auto-updatable phones (Ex. Nexus 5).
May I please request a full guide on installing a custom ROM on this phone, from the beginning?
(Including the bootmenu installation, rooting the phone, etc.)
I'm requesting a guide that's 100% FAILSAFE as I value this phone and I don't want to waste so much money on achieving a bricked phone.
I need it from the basics from rooting and stuff, to SAFELY installing a GOOD STABLE build of kitkat 4.4.
Thanks a lot to all of you in advance.
My phone is running stock 4.0.4 ROM. No root, no hacks yet.
Thanks a LOT to this community.
I understand there are many risks, but really I want this to happen.
androidnewbie123 said:
So I got a used Atrix 2, and the previous owner had installed an SBF (or whatever it is) over all his previous rooted stuff.
So it's fully clean/legit now.
What I want to do is install kitkat on this phone (jealousy got to me) and I'm pretty pissed off for not getting the new features of the auto-updatable phones (Ex. Nexus 5).
May I please request a full guide on installing a custom ROM on this phone, from the beginning?
(Including the bootmenu installation, rooting the phone, etc.)
I'm requesting a guide that's 100% FAILSAFE as I value this phone and I don't want to waste so much money on achieving a bricked phone.
I need it from the basics from rooting and stuff, to SAFELY installing a GOOD STABLE build of kitkat 4.4.
Thanks a lot to all of you in advance.
Inbox me at [email protected] for additional info.
My phone is running stock 4.0.4 ROM. No root, no hacks yet.
Thanks a LOT to this community.
I understand there are many risks, but really I want this to happen.
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Ever heard of the word ''SEARCH''??
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devilhunter47 said:
Ever heard of the word ''SEARCH''??
Sent from my MB865 using Tapatalk 2
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Very helpful, thanks.
After I tried searching, I have posted this. Many have included complex instructions. There are many methods too which I (obviously) don't know which is the safest.
Thanks for your helpful input! -_-
androidnewbie123 said:
Very helpful, thanks.
After I tried searching, I have posted this. Many have included complex instructions. There are many methods too which I (obviously) don't know which is the safest.
Thanks for your helpful input! -_-
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If the instructions are had to understand you shouldn't be flashing your phone because you will end up in a brick..like i did a long time back when i was lazy to read and understand..u wont find any simpler tutorials than those around in the forum..
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Hey man here is the step by step process.
First make sure you have correct drivers installed on your computer. Then install Kingo android root on your computer. Plug in your atrix and press root simple as that. http://www.kingoapp.com/android-root.htm
Second thing you need to do is download the BMM (Boot Menu Manager) from the google play store and thats it... (before you download BMM check on the you tube how to set it up and how to use it to flesh custom roms...
I hope i helped i know from the experience that atrix 2 guys are not very friendly to the noobs.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xs7rN6LlaRI
here is the video how to work with BMM :good:
installing rom on non main systems
hey guys !!!! i installed roms in sys1 and sys3 now i wanted to install it on sys4 , do ihave to format sys1 before installing on sys 4 or i can continue without formatting
guruggk1988 said:
hey guys !!!! i installed roms in sys1 and sys3 now i wanted to install it on sys4 , do ihave to format sys1 before installing on sys 4 or i can continue without formatting
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The only thing you'll need to do is just set up the system 4 partition and you're good to go.:thumbup:
1BadWolf said:
The only thing you'll need to do is just set up the system 4 partition and you're good to go.:thumbup:
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thanx dude ...one more doubt
now i want to install rom on sys2 is it possible to install miui v5 rom on it . my phone is ics searet based and i am using pcman rom 4.3 on sys 1
guruggk1988 said:
thanx dude ...one more doubt
now i want to install rom on sys2 is it possible to install miui v5 rom on it . my phone is ics searet based and i am using pcman rom 4.3 on sys 1
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It's recommended that you only use systems 1, 3, 4, 5, & 6 for flashing. That being said, I personally have never tried to flash anything on system 2 so I don't know what the repercussions would, or even could, be.
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brezulja said:
i know from the experience that atrix 2 guys are not very friendly to the noobs.
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I just noticed this...
On the contrary, I feel as though encouraging a person to read and expand their knowledge is indeed friendly. After all, there is a reason for the old saying, "If you give a man a fish you feed him for a day. Teach him to catch a fish and you'll feed him for a lifetime". :thumbup:
1BadWolf said:
It's recommended that you only use systems 1, 3, 4, 5, & 6 for flashing. That being said, I personally have never tried to flash anything on system 2 so I don't know what the repercussions would, or even could, be.
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I just noticed this...
On the contrary, I feel as though encouraging a person to read and expand their knowledge is indeed friendly. After all, there is a reason for the old saying, "If you give a man a fish you feed him for a day. Teach him to catch a fish and you'll feed him for a lifetime". :thumbup:
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agree! i think anyone who want to play his phone well should have patience to read and understand the instructions.
u can ask questions when u face some issue, but can't some other people to do it for u~
brezulja said:
Hey man here is the step by step process.
First make sure you have correct drivers installed on your computer. Then install Kingo android root on your computer. Plug in your atrix and press root simple as that. http://www.kingoapp.com/android-root.htm
Second thing you need to do is download the BMM (Boot Menu Manager) from the google play store and thats it... (before you download BMM check on the you tube how to set it up and how to use it to flesh custom roms...
I hope i helped i know from the experience that atrix 2 guys are not very friendly to the noobs.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xs7rN6LlaRI
here is the video how to work with BMM :good:
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Kingo root doesn't work with A2...
Thanks for taking your time anyways.
devilhunter47 said:
If the instructions are had to understand you shouldn't be flashing your phone because you will end up in a brick..like i did a long time back when i was lazy to read and understand..u wont find any simpler tutorials than those around in the forum..
Sent from my MB865 using Tapatalk 2
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I have flashed a Moto Defy with ICS 4.0.4 CM9 before, but I screwed up and had to flash an SBF..
I don't want to screw up like last time.
Ty
Umm partitions also complicate my situation... I just want 4.4 on my crappy phone
ota upgrade
How to upgrade the system that i downloaded the file with ota, i know to follow these steps as it shows...
go to recovery and the what????? my system loads to the sys01 where my mokee is installed is in my sys 3
I don't even know..
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Hi I just want to know if it is necessary to unlock the bootloader in Chinese Oneplus one with color os so as to flash it with cm11s.Can't I just copy n paste then install the cm11sbeacon.zip.I am kind of new to the whole bootloader concept ,so please help.
Yes you need to unlock the bootloader. Follow the steps, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2788632
This also belongs in Q&A.
[email protected] said:
Hi I just want to know if it is necessary to unlock the bootloader in Chinese Oneplus one with color os so as to flash it with cm11s.Can't I just copy n paste then install the cm11sbeacon.zip.I am kind of new to the whole bootloader concept ,so please help.
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You don't need to unlock bootloader to flash a ROM on OPO bit before asking just simply do some reading. Check general tab sticky How to too etc...
playya said:
You don't need to unlock bootloader to flash a ROM on OPO bit before asking just simply do some reading. Check general tab sticky How to too etc...
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Care to elaborate on how you install a custom recovery and flash custom ROMs with a locked bootloader?
Sent from a crappy Samsung because my Evita died
timmaaa said:
Care to elaborate on how you install a custom recovery and flash custom ROMs with a locked bootloader?
Sent from a crappy Samsung because my Evita died
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No need to Google it or search forum the instructions are there
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So you're not willing to actually back up your statement? Cool.
Sent from a crappy Samsung because my Evita died
timmaaa said:
So you're not willing to actually back up your statement? Cool.
Sent from a crappy Samsung because my Evita died
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Hahaha stop being lazy and search not like this forum is that large.... Lol
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Hahaha stop being lazy and search not like this forum is that large.... Lol
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I'm perfectly capable of searching, I didn't get to RC status by being a n00b. The point is that you're making a positive assertion, and those usually need to be accompanied by some kind of evidence, otherwise your claim carries no weight.
Sent from a crappy Samsung because my Evita died
[email protected] said:
Hi I just want to know if it is necessary to unlock the bootloader in Chinese Oneplus one with color os so as to flash it with cm11s.Can't I just copy n paste then install the cm11sbeacon.zip.I am kind of new to the whole bootloader concept ,so please help.
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Look for gizchina method to change color os rom to cm11s, its very easy and noob proof method, just google for it. And no, you dont have to unlock bootloader if you dont want or dont know how to do.
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timmaaa said:
I'm perfectly capable of searching, I didn't get to RC status by being a n00b. The point is that you're making a positive assertion, and those usually need to be accompanied by some kind of evidence, otherwise your claim carries no weight.
Sent from a crappy Samsung because my Evita died
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Actually you can flash custom roms with locked bootloader just using fastboot boot command then when you are in the recovery you can flash what you want, roms,mods,supersu,etc.
acuicultor said:
Actually you can flash custom roms with locked bootloader just using fastboot boot command then when you are in the recovery you can flash what you want, roms,mods,supersu,etc.
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Yeah I know, I never said you couldn't, I was just asking that the other user elaborate a bit. You've done it for him, so thanks.
Sent from a crappy Samsung because my Evita died
Thread lightly cleaned of unnecessary comments...If you have nothing nice to say or cannot contribute with respect, than I suggest you go elsewhere. No time for drama in development.
Final warning. Be nice or get out.
Hello! I was wondering if any of you tech savvy people could help me out. I had bricked my Galaxy S3 and installed a new ROM on it in order to fix it. Needless to say it worked, or so I thought. Could you help? Details are below.
Model: Samsung-SGH-I747 (AT&T)
Issues:
-Camera won't take pictures, yet I can see what it sees.
-Video won't record.
-Mic won't pick up audio.
-No audio from phone at all.
-SIM is not being read
-Whole phone is a little laggy.
Please help me, Samsung chat wasn't very helpful.
Try flashing full stock via Odin
that or try a different kenel. It would be good tho to start all fresh with the right firmware
ElwOOd_CbGp said:
that or try a different kenel. It would be good tho to start all fresh with the right firmware
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Yeah, that seems to be a kernel issue
sachin.parmar100 said:
Yeah, that seems to be a kernel issue
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Thanks for the replies! I had flashed it with a ROM I linked below. Also, could you elaborate on what a Kernel is?
On the Samsung Updates page, Galaxy S III LTE (AT&T) SGH-I747, is the device. I selected the only ROM available.
SamsungAngry said:
Thanks for the replies! I had flashed it with a ROM I linked below. Also, could you elaborate on what a Kernel is?
On the Samsung Updates page, Galaxy S III LTE (AT&T) SGH-I747, is the device. I selected the only ROM available.
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A kernel acts as a connection between the hardware and the software.
sachin.parmar100 said:
A kernel acts as a connection between the hardware and the software.
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Thanks. Is there any way to go about checking and/or replacing a kernel?
SamsungAngry said:
Thanks. Is there any way to go about checking and/or replacing a kernel?
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Changing a kernel is pretty easy, just download the appropriate kernel for your phone and flash it through any custom recovery, then wipe cache and dalvik cache to avoid any future issues, you are good to go then
sachin.parmar100 said:
Changing a kernel is pretty easy, just download the appropriate kernel for your phone and flash it through any custom recovery, then wipe cache and dalvik cache to avoid any future issues, you are good to go then
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Ok, I have been trying and can't seem to do it. Is there any way you could link me to a kernel for my phone that doesn't require me rooting my phone again or using a SD Card. Thank you, you've really been helping me.
SamsungAngry said:
Ok, I have been trying and can't seem to do it. Is there any way you could link me to a kernel for my phone that doesn't require me rooting my phone again or using a SD Card. Thank you, you've really been helping me.
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Sorry i can't do that coz i've never owned a S3, i am a nexus 4 user, i flash kernels through recovery in all of my devices.
sachin.parmar100 said:
Sorry i can't do that coz i've never owned a S3, i am a nexus 4 user, i flash kernels through recovery in all of my devices.
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Well, I greatly appreciate your help. Thanks a lot.
kernel for your phone...
SamsungAngry said:
Ok, I have been trying and can't seem to do it. Is there any way you could link me to a kernel for my phone that doesn't require me rooting my phone again or using a SD Card. Thank you, you've really been helping me.
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I am using this kernel on my s3. Its really good, a lot of powerful options, and easy to install. Just make sure you read thru the entire OP and research anything you don't understand. Depending on how bad your phone is, it might not be a bad idea to odin the original firmware and start fresh.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=28399835#post28399835
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here is a link to a good recovery for your phone
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2552640
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This is a badass ROM. I am running the sprint version tho. This is the one ported to at&t. the kernel comes built in on the sprint version and probably is also on this one. I had to flash the att kernel to work with sprints new version of the s3. http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s3-att/development/rom-ported-wicked-x-v8-0-att-t2985227 Same thing there too. Read the entire OP at least and as much of the att and original thread as you can, and thank the devs.