I may betting an Inspire in 2 weeks, replacing an HTC Aria (FroYo, rooted, likely to be Sense 1.o). I see that many of the ROMs for the Inspire are Sense 3.0 or higher. Do these higher/newer versions of sense have landscape home screens?
There are only 10 kinds of people. Those who understand binary math, and those who don't.
Some do and some don't. You can often flash a rotating rosie mod on the ones that do come with it right off.
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I'm an AT&T subscriber and i've been waiting on the Nexus one or compatible device.
I really don't know which is better between the nexus and the desire, but I know I do like the Physical buttons and the optical trackpad on the desire. I'm just not sure I want the Sense UI over Android.
Does the Sense UI still allow animated backgrounds and have all the features that vanilla Android has?
My main concern is the fact that it seems to take manufacturers with UI over Android a while to upgrade to the latest Version of Android.
So what do you guys think the best choice will be? And how hard will it be to remove Sense off the Desire and make it Vanilla Anroid? Will it then get the OTA updates just like the NExus One?
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I'm an AT&T subscriber and i've been waiting on the Nexus one or compatible device.
I really don't know which is better between the nexus and the desire, but I know I do like the Physical buttons and the optical trackpad on the desire. I'm just not sure I want the Sense UI over Android.
Does the Sense UI still allow animated backgrounds and have all the features that vanilla Android has?
My main concern is the fact that it seems to take manufacturers with UI over Android a while to upgrade to the latest Version of Android.
So what do you guys think the best choice will be? And how hard will it be to remove Sense off the Desire and make it Vanilla Anroid? Will it then get the OTA updates just like the NExus One?
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Yes someone can make a stock android 2.1 rom for the desire. HTC SENSE UI has everything that stock android has except (correct me if I'm wrong) the new launcher.
In every htc sense device you can just turn off sense and just use stock android so no problem there.
The device won't get major updates from google (like OS upgrades) but it might get minor updates (like 3G fixes, bug fixes, newer flash)
Just so that you know Sense UI is android except with a skin, like sense on the hd2.
I would get the Desire (you get both stock and sense ui, the desire has more RAM then the nexus one, the desire looks much better and sleeker.)
Agreed. Couple points:
1. I own a Nexus. It's very good. I'm a WinMo guy and it was good enough to convert me to a phone with no keyboard.
2. I'ld get the desire. Its almost like a 2nd gen N1. Takes away most common faults: bad network coverage, problems with capacitive buttons, vanilla interface.
3. Furthermore, Sense is great. Coming from an HTC WinMo phone I reeeaeaally missed Sense. Android clocks look cheesy while sense looks classy. There is now a dedicated phone button on the screen. My number one complaint was I hate the way iphones find contacts to call them. It's like 4 clicks and a ton of scrolling. Android is like that. But with Sense on, Sense dialer is a smart dialer. Just start typing their name on dialpad (dad = 323) and it quickly finds the number.
4. Although sense can be turned off, its not "just" a launcher. Its also a dialer, a contact app, an entire new homescreen with 7 screens and specialized htc widgets preprogrammed into them, with saveable custom homescreens called "scenes." New weather app, new app drawer with no 3d effects. Also, Sense ("Rosie") is said by Rom chiefs to be built deep into the "framework" of Android, which is why they sadly havent just ported the apps to stock yet.
thanks guys, Looks like the Desire is the best choice then... Now I just hope that it really comes to AT&T. And SOON!!!
i wonder if at&t will screw up the desire like they did with the backflop?
Brickflop, you mean. But I wouldn't be surprised if the Desire gets the same treatment.
One major setback about Sense is that it doesn't allow Sense to rotate into landscape mode. Any ideas on why HTC haven't allowed Sense to rotate? Kind of pointless when the docks are landscape...
I've tried other launchers but they don't appeal to me.
What I might start doing is use Tasker to launch Launcher Pro when my phone is docked... I know that launcher does landscape. But even when I charge using a cable it will lanch launcher pro...
I agree. It feels like they left many things out when they released our phones. Hopefully an update will fix/finish those things.
I know for the EVO 4G they ported Sense ROMs from the Inspire which was modded to include a landscape version of Sense in a flashable zip. Might want to find it and either try it (diff. phone/Sense ver though) or contact one of the devs.
Why don't we keep bugging htc about it? Just as many as people was bugging htc about s-off XD
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I'm sure people are working on making a 100% sense free rom
but i'm just wondering how many people out there would rather have sense or not
i myself don't mind sense but i prefer a clean no sense rom with nothing pre-istalled
100% clean
sense is for teenage girls
I like to have at least one thing installed... A launcher... And maybe a phone... And a billion speed and ram tweaks... Oh and I'd like for it to be 2.3.4
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Sense is for women and former iphone users.
Get rid of it & all bloat for a Android 2.3.4 rom! cool
i have not used 2.3.4 yet whats changed from 2.3.3 ?
Why stop at 2.3.3?
Cyanogenmod 7 has been based on Android 2.3.5 for a couple of weeks now and kmobs has it 99% ported to the Sensation.
Any day now I tell you ...
I've tried sense on a few different phones and I keep going back to the non sense version. Sense is pretty much all eye candy. It doesn't have any performance advantages what so ever.
I have removed sense but the AOSP lockscreen has been buggy, takes alot to unlock the screen. Has anyone else seen this problem or is it just my phone? the sense lock ring works much better for me.
Greetings to all developers and super users, I'm just eager to know what are your opinions on the latest SenseUI on top of ICS.
In my opinion, the Sense 3.5 is just not made for ICS at all. It's just an emergency move made by HTC team to release Sense for ICS. This is due to other platforms which quickly developed their patch ICS upgrade for their devices. I't just an 'emergency landing' for HTC.
In Sense 3.6 they've fixed some minor stuff in 3.5 which doesn't fit well together with the ICS framework. BUt still, how the SenseUI in ICS gave an impression to me is that IT IS NOT WELL CONCEPTED! Not as beautiful as Sense 3.0 in GB compared to other manufaturers' UI.
So I'm just saying that I am really eager to see Sense 4.0 for ICS in the near future.
What say you guys?
if HTC had actually given it a bit more AOSP style to Sense with ICS, then it might be ok....but as it, it actually looks like poop in my honest opinion...hence I now run Virtuous Inquisition 3.0.0
True, I think at the moment, Mathias' design concept is more mature than HTC's. But the fact is that many feature in ICS is already adopted since Sense 3.0. So I think that Sense 4.0 will be a blast again
sense is awful... that is just my opinion
I don't mind a little bit of sense (Some comes in handy sometimes) but they basically killed the beauty of ICS with there **** sense overlay. At least color stuff correctly. It looks very hurried and just glued together on htcs part. With that said virtuous Inq took out all the crappy junk that HTC put in and made it great again.
I'm actually considering a move to Virtuous ROM. Because it's the best AOSP so far I saw plus everyone's been using that.
I agreed with the glued part. It is really like just glued in a hurry. Not like the usual SENSEUI..
Yes sense 4.0 will totally change Ics UI....we have to wait some days.
The question is WHEN...
there are some leaks about it.. but not convincing enough...
Just hope it will be epic as ever ^^
sense 3.5/3.6 doesnyt really fit to ics, htc got to rethink their vision of new sense, but first news gives us hope that htc has right direction
on the other hand i can't work without sense, its the most complex launcher and i've tried working without it, but it was pointless, always comming back to sense
Personally,i just want aosp based rom. I hate Sense and always did dating back from my old Wildfire lol.
Using HyperSense CM7 ATM
ok, after I tried using Virtuous 3.0.0, I decided to go back to ARHD.
reason??
Because after using the AOSP based ROM, I realized how Sense made life easier. Although I must say that the AOSP has better design than Sense 3.5/4.6, but there are still some functions which Sense came really handy with.
So mean while, I'm coming back to ARHD ^^
It's insulting. 3.6 is such a minor "upgrade" to 3.5 while 4.0 is a massive upgrade (no quotes) to 2.3.x, putting that ****lick overlay on top of AOSP totally kills it. That, and the gray color scheme introduced in 3.5 is aweful, it's so dull. Sense 3.0 is the last decent Sense.
I agree, actually maybe Sense 3.0 was so great is because it has huge improvement from the previous Sense.
I would love to have ICS stock camera app in htc sense..
i think sense 3.6 is just a quick update to shut all of us up about wanting ICS
after some time we'll get a better sense version...
remember sense 2.1? it was absolutely the same in froyo and gingerbread but when HTC announced the sensation it was rocking sense 3.0 and everyone was drooling over it
While the first pictures and videos of ICS emerged, I told my self "nah, that can't be it. They said they where about to make it look better... "
When ICS was officially announced, I was deeply disappointed, that it really looked as ugly as it did in the leaked versions.
So I'm really enjoying sense 3.6, even if I had hoped for more.
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Personally Im not really looking forward to ICS with Sense 3.6. ICS is one thing but IMO Sense 3.6 isnt exactly different from Sense 3. The only thing I like about 3.6 is its camera but it isnt really a make or break decision for me.
If HTC rolls out ICS and Sense 4.0 for Sensation sometime later, I do hope they'll have better camera features (not over Sense 3 of course, even 3.6 camera trumps over 3.0 lol)
But I think Sense 3.6 is a compensation of ICS design. Because the original ICS has no menu button and Sensation has menu button.
...want Sense 3.6 to be the final Sense version that we get for the Sensation? I mean, I love it. It's great. Obviously a more polished version makes sense, however, I think this sense version is pretty great. (I've had tons of Sense phones and have used many roms.) Sense 4.0 looks so... Blah... to me. That plain grey, I like it on AOSP and in the menus on Sense 3.6... but for it to be the launcher bar on the bottom... I dunno. I feel like they are doing away with the glassy gloss of Sense that made me love it.
Anyone else agree?
Yes, I would love to see sense die, but it seems to be popular enough to some that it keeps HTC making it. These custom skins also give a layer of distinction between manufacturers. I know my next phone will be a Nexus phone or a phone that active and successful AOSP based roms. I don't like how HTC doesn't open up the source for the sensation making it harder for devs to cook up fully functional roms.
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I don't like how HTC doesn't open up the source for the sensation making it harder for devs to cook up fully functional roms.
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They do open the kernel source up, but IIRC it's only after a phone or update with that version of the kernel is shipped this occurs.
So my guess is once they push out the ICS update they will make the kernel source available here: http://htcdev.com/devcenter/downloads
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Yes, I would love to see sense die, but it seems to be popular enough to some that it keeps HTC making it. These custom skins also give a layer of distinction between manufacturers. I know my next phone will be a Nexus phone or a phone that active and successful AOSP based roms. I don't like how HTC doesn't open up the source for the sensation making it harder for devs to cook up fully functional roms.
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Don't get me wrong, I love Sense. However, I don't like the direction they are going with Sense 4.0. I would like the new landscape rosie and lockscreen, other than that... Sense 3.6 is the way I like my Sensation.
Μe too,I think now they are making it too grey ang ugly for me.sense 3.6 has that touch polish you can't see elsewhere.
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I think 3.6 is kinda ugly. Those grays are very real in Sense 3.6 but they have a bluish tint to them. I just wish the current releases weren't so laggy. Sure, they're stable and the lag is tolerable, but nothing beats AOSP 4.0
Personally I can't stand sense, but thats just a personal preference. I didn't realize how much I disliked it until I received a sense device. I used to think it was just a skin and a different launcher would fix it.
It would be great if HTC offered factory baked AOSP roms as an option. So those who want a regular android experience will continue to buy HTC phones and can do so without voiding their warranty. I get why people like sense, even more when you take it back to windows mobile 6.x (touchflo), but as long as sense is a part of HTC phones for the future, I will no longer buy phones from them. Except for 9 months on blackberry I have had only HTC phones for at least 6 years.
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I think 3.6 is kinda ugly. Those grays are very real in Sense 3.6 but they have a bluish tint to them. I just wish the current releases weren't so laggy. Sure, they're stable and the lag is tolerable, but nothing beats AOSP 4.0
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Blue tint is a bug affecting some users. Flash this kernel to fix it: 1.512_GHz_overclocked_kernel_3.0.16-g9788208_by_SebastianFM.zip
You can't really complain about Sense 4.0 when no one has even used it.
All you've seen so far are leaked videos and pictures. It could still change before it's released.