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Never like to have to resort to posting myself but I've had a decent look around the web and can't seem to find a solid solution to my problem so I'm hoping to get some specific help
So I have a UK MZ601 3G Motorola Xoom which was happily running Moray 2.2.1 and had been rooted using the universal root method. Decided to update to 2.2.2 and now my Xoom is stuck in a boot-loop on the custom rippling water boot animation.
The tablet hangs on the first line when trying to boot into recovery so for all my efforts cannot access CWM and perform a hard reset and fresh rom install.
I've tried - and I'm assuming I'm correct in thinking this means I cannot get the Xoom to any stage where I can use adb to attempt to get in to recovery or push files to the system etc. this way.
From what I've read on other forum posts - booting holding volume up and power puts the device into an 'RSD' state which is another method of reflashing the device? I've read this requires an 'SBF' file - which I have seen for download - but believe it only works for the US models?
I've left the boot screen looping overnight - so its not an issue of it just being slow. Because of the custom boot screen I obviously can't return it to the shop as I presume its an obvious warranty void?
Would massively appreciate any help in bringing whats looking increasingly like a £500 paper weight back to life.
Thanks
crozuk said:
Never like to have to resort to posting myself but I've had a decent look around the web and can't seem to find a solid solution to my problem so I'm hoping to get some specific help
So I have a UK MZ601 3G Motorola Xoom which was happily running Moray 2.2.1 and had been rooted using the universal root method. Decided to update to 2.2.2 and now my Xoom is stuck in a boot-loop on the custom rippling water boot animation.
The tablet hangs on the first line when trying to boot into recovery so for all my efforts cannot access CWM and perform a hard reset and fresh rom install.
I've tried - and I'm assuming I'm correct in thinking this means I cannot get the Xoom to any stage where I can use adb to attempt to get in to recovery or push files to the system etc. this way.
From what I've read on other forum posts - booting holding volume up and power puts the device into an 'RSD' state which is another method of reflashing the device? I've read this requires an 'SBF' file - which I have seen for download - but believe it only works for the US models?
I've left the boot screen looping overnight - so its not an issue of it just being slow. Because of the custom boot screen I obviously can't return it to the shop as I presume its an obvious warranty void?
Would massively appreciate any help in bringing whats looking increasingly like a £500 paper weight back to life.
Thanks
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When you press volume up and power, and hold it, it reboots, yeah? Then you wait about three seconds on dual core screen and tap volume down...what happens then? Do you see android recovery in upper left? Or starting fastboot protocol? Where does it hang? Just trying to see where things are going wrong. If you can get into starting fastboot protocol you are in good shape. If you can get into cwm recovery you should be in great shape. Check out the Xoom Heaven thread in General for some info on recovery.
You are most likely far from bricked...almost all of us have recovered from worse situations than you are in now so just keep cool.
okantomi said:
When you press volume up and power, and hold it, it reboots, yeah? Then you wait about three seconds on dual core screen and tap volume down...what happens then? Do you see android recovery in upper left? Or starting fastboot protocol? Where does it hang? Just trying to see where things are going wrong. If you can get into starting fastboot protocol you are in good shape. If you can get into cwm recovery you should be in great shape. Check out the Xoom Heaven thread in General for some info on recovery.
You are most likely far from bricked...almost all of us have recovered from worse situations than you are in now so just keep cool.
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Thanks for your reply - tried numerous times getting into recovery - get stuck with one line of 'starting fastboot protocol' and seems to hang there.
Have experience rooting and flash etc. and have obviously used adb in the past.
If I could just get to recovery - or a state where I could use adb I would be fine. But as I said in my first post - looks like I can only access an 'RSD' state.
Is there any other way of getting adb access from my PC? All the help for bricked xooms seems to concern US models - and don't want to try anything that will completely write it off!
Thanks again for your help.
Quick update -
Have retried Fastboot - stuck on 'Starting Fastboot protocol support'
Tried Android Recovery - got stuck on a black screen for a long long time but finally booted!
Wiped and re-installed what I know to be a kosher ROM! Was a scary moment there but thanks for your help and reassurance!
crozuk said:
Quick update -
Have retried Fastboot - stuck on 'Starting Fastboot protocol support'
Tried Android Recovery - got stuck on a black screen for a long long time but finally booted!
Wiped and re-installed what I know to be a kosher ROM! Was a scary moment there but thanks for your help and reassurance!
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If you are still rooted and all, just for safety's sake, make sure to do another nandroid backup and save it to your micro sdcard. Backup, backup, backup. Then also make sure that you have a compatible cwm recovery installed, that will let you access your microsd card. It sounds like you're alright, so, cool.
I'm a noob and I wiped my phone before trying recovery! DERP. Not sure what to do next.
So... I need a little help. I've been looking around and havent been able to find a situation like mine. I've got a completely wiped/factory reset HTC Inspire 4g. SD card is good and reformatted to fat32. Heres the basics. When I press the power button I get 3 vibrate and orange light, when I press volume down and power I get 5 vibrates and green light. When I plug phone in with usb (to computer or charger) I get clockworkmod recovery v5.0.2.7. I am able to toggle through options, all works fine.
This is where I need help and I get easily confused. What do I do to get this phone back to stock settings? I've tried putting the stock pd98img.zip file onto the sd card, then installing via clockwork recovery. When I do this, I get failed installation EVERY time. I've also tried connecting through ace hack kit on my lap top and running the stock settings flash. Whenever it resets the phone it does the 3 vibrates/orange light and stops.
I would really appreciate someone with a little more experience to walk me through what I need to do to recover.
Update: When I try to download the zip from the sd card via clockworkmod I get the error E:Signature Verification Failed. I'm not sure what this means.
If someone can solve my problem I'll buy them lunch or coffee! Some kind of gift card to your favorite place? I'd really like my android back!
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I'm a noob and I wiped my phone before trying recovery! DERP. Not sure what to do next.
So... I need a little help. I've been looking around and havent been able to find a situation like mine. I've got a completely wiped/factory reset HTC Inspire 4g. SD card is good and reformatted to fat32. Heres the basics. When I press the power button I get 3 vibrate and orange light, when I press volume down and power I get 5 vibrates and green light. When I plug phone in with usb (to computer or charger) I get clockworkmod recovery v5.0.2.7. I am able to toggle through options, all works fine.
This is where I need help and I get easily confused. What do I do to get this phone back to stock settings? I've tried putting the stock pd98img.zip file onto the sd card, then installing via clockwork recovery. When I do this, I get failed installation EVERY time. I've also tried connecting through ace hack kit on my lap top and running the stock settings flash. Whenever it resets the phone it does the 3 vibrates/orange light and stops.
I would really appreciate someone with a little more experience to walk me through what I need to do to recover.
Update: When I try to download the zip from the sd card via clockworkmod I get the error E:Signature Verification Failed. I'm not sure what this means.
If someone can solve my problem I'll buy them lunch or coffee! Some kind of gift card to your favorite place? I'd really like my android back!
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You only flash pd98 files from fast boot not from CWM recovery. Boot in bootloader and it will find it
I am going to come off as the biggest noob here, but its got to be done. How do you boot in bootloader?
EDIT: Alright. So Bootloader is Volume down and power. My phone won't boot into bootloader. Phone vibrate 5 times and green led comes on. Screen stays black the whole time.
Drdandy said:
I am going to come off as the biggest noob here, but its got to be done. How do you boot in bootloader?
EDIT: Alright. So Bootloader is Volume down and power. My phone won't boot into bootloader. Phone vibrate 5 times and green led comes on. Screen stays black the whole time.
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Ok i dont use CWM but there maybe an option in there to reboot into bootloader. Try holding volume up and power. Could be confusing devices on that though
zelendel said:
Ok i dont use CWM but there maybe an option in there to reboot into bootloader. Try holding volume up and power. Could be confusing devices on that though
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Nah, no other combo's work for getting into bootloader or rebooting it. From what I've read on other forums, if I can't get into bootloader, I'm bricked. Do you think since the phone is wiped back to factory settings that HTC would replace it under the warranty?
Since you can boot into recovery, adb should still work. Enter recovery then plug in your phone to PC and run adb reboot bootloader
Have you tried reflashing a rom in recovery aswell?
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Nah, no other combo's work for getting into bootloader or rebooting it. From what I've read on other forums, if I can't get into bootloader, I'm bricked. Do you think since the phone is wiped back to factory settings that HTC would replace it under the warranty?
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If you are booting into CWM your not back to factory. As stated above you can use adb to boot into bootloader
Just making sure I'm doing this right as its the first time I've ever use adb commands to me phone. Do I need to downloand Android SDK to write commands to the phone?
Okay. I've learned how to use the adb commands. That was cool. haha. So I popped the battery out, then back in to get to CWM. With phone connected to computer I tried adb reboot bootloader. My phone rebooted itself, but it did the 3 vibrates with a flashing orange LED. Adb reboot recovery does the same thing.
For being in recovery. Are you guys talking about the volume down power combination, when I do this and connect the phone to the pc, the pc doesn't detect the phone. So there is no abd commands/flashing roms to it in recovery.
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Okay. I've learned how to use the adb commands. That was cool. haha. So I popped the battery out, then back in to get to CWM. With phone connected to computer I tried adb reboot bootloader. My phone rebooted itself, but it did the 3 vibrates with a flashing orange LED. Adb reboot recovery does the same thing.
For being in recovery. Are you guys talking about the volume down power combination, when I do this and connect the phone to the pc, the pc doesn't detect the phone. So there is no abd commands/flashing roms to it in recovery.
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OK looks like your bootloader is messed up. Go to the ace hack kit thread. There you will find a link foe the IRC chat room. Go there and tell them what you did. They maybe able to help you.
i may be up a creek now. i've tried everything i can.
here's the whole situation, maybe someone can offer some guidance on how i can get my phone back.
i installed this rom, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1835478, but did not see that there was a problem with people getting stuck at the initial google boot logo. i wouldn't have tried it if i did.
but it's too late now. so i too have that problem. in addition, i also have that problem with the nexus s in that the power button is busted, works only to boot the phone.
so i boot the phone normally, i get to that boot logo indefinitely.
i press up and power button i get to fastboot screen. for some reason the volume buttons don't work on that screen so i can't pick recovery there. only thing that works is hitting the power button and reboots the bootloader.
i plug the phone into my pc and i can't access it through adb, fastboot... does not recognize a device is connected.
so in summary, all i can do is access the fastboot screen or the boot logo screen.
if someone can help me figure out how to do one of the following: boot into recovery instead of fastboot, figure out how to use the volume buttons in fastboot, or get the phone recognized by my pc so i can use adb, that would be awesome.
i feel like i just bricked it for good....
thanks
Install the SDK. Launch it. Find the drivers to download in the SDK. Install them. Boot the phone into fastboot and connect it to pc. Open up a command prompt IN the directory that has fastboot in it. Type in the command prompt fastboot devices.
If your serial number shoes your good to go. Get the .img of your custom recovery and type fastboot flash recovery nameofile.img. with that being the exact file name ( hint type the first letter of the recovery and hit tab)
Yep, you gotta get fastboot working again. It's pretty important.
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i've had the sdk/driver installed already.
like i said, the phone when it boots is not being recognized by the laptop at all, as if it's not even plugged in. so when i do fastboot devices, nothing shows up.
Was it recognized prior?
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in the prior rom it was recognized by the laptop, before i tried to flash the rom i linked above that created this mess...
albundy2010 said:
Install the SDK. Launch it. Find the drivers to download in the SDK. Install them. Boot the phone into fastboot and connect it to pc. Open up a command prompt IN the directory that has fastboot in it. Type in the command prompt fastboot devices.
If your serial number shoes your good to go. Get the .img of your custom recovery and type fastboot flash recovery nameofile.img. with that being the exact file name ( hint type the first letter of the recovery and hit tab)
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AlphaEchoViktorSierra said:
Yep, you gotta get fastboot working again. It's pretty important.
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Yep fastboot is a great tool, if you have a nexus s then you MUST get it working!
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wookietv said:
i've had the sdk/driver installed already.
like i said, the phone when it boots is not being recognized by the laptop at all, as if it's not even plugged in. so when i do fastboot devices, nothing shows up.
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Seems like your nexus s drivers are not installed in your laptop
google the nexus s usb drivers download them and put in the respective folder
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albundy2010 said:
Was it recognized prior?
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was gonna ask the same question
like i said, i already had the sdk and drivers installed.
they worked fine before i installed that rom.
this definitely seems like it's on the fault of the phone, not the laptop.
looks like you got busted like a SIR!!
Just kidding man dont take it seriously...
I might sound silly but i hope you have tried this but if you have not then do try
Go here and try changing the usb plugs
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1785672
IT shows flashboot steps, you need to connect phone in bootloader mode which you are achieving atm, and see if it works
and if it doesnt then let me know i will try to help out more if i could
P.S I am also new in android so pardon my noobnes
i went another route...
i figured i had nothing to lose at this point... so i ripped the phone apart and attempted to fix the power button, which i believed in turn would fix not being able to use the volume keys in the fastboot screen.
i was correct. i jiggled with the power button inside and it seemed to work. the volume keys now reacted in the fastboot screen.
i was able to then get into recovery, wipe the phone, connect the phone to the laptop and put a new rom on it.
i'm not sure if its fixed the button completely, but at least i can get into the new rom :laugh:
well thats a relief and i am glad that you problem is solved
a little advice, get repaired that power button for good so that you have no hassle in near future
converse5 said:
well thats a relief and i am glad that you problem is solved
a little advice, get repaired that power button for good so that you have no hassle in near future
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+1, I agree with you. It does not cost much as well. I had this problem and was managing with apps. But finally got it replaced for good.
Hey yall. I had the phone for 6 days before I bricked it. I am wondering if there is any stock recovery mode or anything or what I shsould do? I think something went wrong due to using the root toolbox pro app. I have done some backups within the ap as well as Titanium Backup but now the phone will not boot up and I dont know if/how to put it in factory recovery mode. Soft reset does nothing. The Motorola logo will show on startup but then the screen just blacks out forever, not off, just colored black.
A few details, the phone was rooted with Motofail2go, with no recovery and bootloader still locked as far as I know.
Should I take it to Sprint for a factory reset? Is this even an option? What are my other options?
Next time I will probably use the Moto unlock key so I can open the bootloader all legit like and have a recovery mode...
Try holding power button and the down volume key to power off. Once you power off press and hold them again. This should boot you into fastboot, Motorola's adb shell basically. This can take a couple tries, make sure the phone is powered down completely before hitting volume down and power button to get into fastboot. If you can boot into fastboot you can unlock using this guide: http://www.droid-life.com/2012/08/20/how-to-unlock-the-motorola-photon-q-bootloader/
Once unlocked flash the custom recovery of your choice (I like twrp). You can boot into custom recovery by holding volume up and the power button from a powered down state. Here is the link for instructions on how to flash twrp:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1887070
Then you can download one of the stock backups for the Q posted in the development section and restore them using the custom recovery. Most of the ones I have seen have been compatible with twrp.
The only way to download the stock rom backups is to remove the sd card from your phone, plug your sd card into a PC or other device with a card reader, download the stock backups, and place the stock backup rom files on your sd card. Finally place the sd card with the stock backup downloads into your phone.
These backups and information on how to go through this process can be found in this thread on page 2: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2001226
The key is to make a backup of your existing rom with twrp and then move the stock backups from your sd card to the twrp/backups/yourdeiceserial/ directory. That creates a backup directory which twrp knows to look for backups in.
Don't feel bad, I've been in that state several times since getting the Q, live and learn.
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UnicronAlpha99 said:
Try holding power button and the down volume key to power off. Once you power off press and hold them again. This should boot you into fastboot, Motorola's adb shell basically. This can take a couple tries, make sure the phone is powered down completely before hitting volume down and power button to get into fastboot. If you can boot into fastboot you can unlock using this guide: http://www.droid-life.com/2012/08/20/how-to-unlock-the-motorola-photon-q-bootloader/
Once unlocked flash the custom recovery of your choice (I like twrp). You can boot into custom recovery by holding volume up and the power button from a powered down state. Here is the link for instructions on how to flash twrp:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1887070
Then you can download one of the stock backups for the Q posted in the development section and restore them using the custom recovery. Most of the ones I have seen have been compatible with twrp.
Don't feel bad, I've been in that state several times since getting the Q, live and learn.
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If that does not work you could drop it in water or something. You have not officially unlocked boot loader so you still have warranty. Or you could just tell sprint it quit working and act completely clueless. At least its bricked with warranty still intact.
matt2k12 said:
Hey yall. I had the phone for 6 days before I bricked it. I am wondering if there is any stock recovery mode or anything or what I shsould do? I think something went wrong due to using the root toolbox pro app. I have done some backups within the ap as well as Titanium Backup but now the phone will not boot up and I dont know if/how to put it in factory recovery mode. Soft reset does nothing. The Motorola logo will show on startup but then the screen just blacks out forever, not off, just colored black.
A few details, the phone was rooted with Motofail2go, with no recovery and bootloader still locked as far as I know.
Should I take it to Sprint for a factory reset? Is this even an option? What are my other options?
Next time I will probably use the Moto unlock key so I can open the bootloader all legit like and have a recovery mode...
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Both of the methods above are very effective. When I had the first photon I bricked it and just dropped it in water and did a claim. Depending on the insurance you have that way may cost you $100. The other method should work. When I first got this phone I did the exact same thing and to go back and unlock then flash twrp and in stall a stock backup someone had posted.
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UnicronAlpha99 said:
Try holding power button and the down volume key to power off. Once you power off press and hold them again. This should boot you into fastboot, Motorola's adb shell basically. This can take a couple tries, make sure the phone is powered down completely before hitting volume down and power button to get into fastboot. If you can boot into fastboot you can unlock using this guide: http://www.droid-life.com/2012/08/20/how-to-unlock-the-motorola-photon-q-bootloader/
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Thanks for the response. Is there anything extra extra special about getting into factory fastboot mode? I can't seem to get it done. Is there an official set of instructions anywhere? Does the phone need to be plugged into the PC? It was always my understanding (for the last week) that Power and Vol Down was the soft reset mode which reboots the phone. Therefore it always tries to reboot in normal mode. This is what keeps happening. It never powers completely down using this method.
Anyhow, once I follow your instructions, the Moto logo appears, no Sprint logo appears, the phone "powers on" but the screen is blacked out (not off). After waiting for a while at the blank/black screen, or holding down several buttons like vol or camera I get the first attachment: "Process system is not responding. Would you like to close it?" When I wait nothing happens. When I push OK nothing happens. By chance, I held down power during the notification and the power menu came up behind the ANR notice (second/third attachments). So obviously there are some things working but the main system isn't booting up. And either factory fastboot is nuked or I can't figure it out. When I power down from this accessible power menu and try to do the fastboot (Power / Vol Down) I still havent gotten it to work.
Any other ideas before I take drastic measures?
Since I bought it from Amazon would that be my best route for return or should I go thru a Sprint store?
Thanks in advance.
Hi again yall. You know once I got to thinking about it, I decided to check out the return policy on Amazon Wireless. They will accept any device under warranty for the first 30 days and it is up to Moto for the next 11 months of warranty coverage. They email me a packing label and it ships out 1 day and they ship out the new phone 1 day shipping. Hard to beat, just takes 2 days of shipping and some more fun times with my Epic, 10.1CM style, in the meantime.
Who's to say it wasnt some sort of hardware or software glitch that bricked the phone rather than my screwing around? Nobody knows and it isn't up to the consumer to prove his innocence. I bought everything legally, all the apps at the app store, and only ran the motofail2go root method. Wasn't running any custom Roms, Mods, or anything. I don't feel bad after they got me for another 2 grand for 24 months, and since I have been with Sprint for 10 years;l I have spent well over 10k or 15k with them lifetime.
If any other method pops up between now and when I ship it out I may give it a shot but if not, ah well, capitalism.
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Thanks for the response. Is there anything extra extra special about getting into factory fastboot mode? I can't seem to get it done. Is there an official set of instructions anywhere? Does the phone need to be plugged into the PC? It was always my understanding (for the last week) that Power and Vol Down was the soft reset mode which reboots the phone. Therefore it always tries to reboot in normal mode. This is what keeps happening. It never powers completely down using this method.
Anyhow, once I follow your instructions, the Moto logo appears, no Sprint logo appears, the phone "powers on" but the screen is blacked out (not off). After waiting for a while at the blank/black screen, or holding down several buttons like vol or camera I get the first attachment: "Process system is not responding. Would you like to close it?" When I wait nothing happens. When I push OK nothing happens. By chance, I held down power during the notification and the power menu came up behind the ANR notice (second/third attachments). So obviously there are some things working but the main system isn't booting up. And either factory fastboot is nuked or I can't figure it out. When I power down from this accessible power menu and try to do the fastboot (Power / Vol Down) I still havent gotten it to work.
Any other ideas before I take drastic measures?
Since I bought it from Amazon would that be my best route for return or should I go thru a Sprint store?
Thanks in advance.
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Try using adb. If your computer has drivers on it for phone you might able to get into fast boot. If that does not work I would try Sprint store first. Have locked my phone up several times while hacking wife off in progress and have used adb every time. Only time i have been truely scared is when i soft bricked my nexus 7. had to stay at work for two hours after i got off to get it to recover because i was scared of her lol.
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If you get adb to recognize device you could take chance and officially unlock boot loader. Then flash twrp. There is a thread in general section about having trouble getting official update. It has a stock recovery in it. Trick would be moving files to recovery section of twrp
I have gotten the phone to soft power down and get into fast boot and custom recovery. It's a bit tricky with timing, I usually wait for the screen to go black after soft reset, let go, and immediately hold power and volume down. If you can not boot into fastboot I honestly don't know what you can do either than return the phone.
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UnicronAlpha99 said:
I have gotten the phone to soft power down and get into fast boot and custom recovery. It's a bit tricky with timing, I usually wait for the screen to go black after soft reset, let go, and immediately hold power and volume down. If you can not boot into fastboot I honestly don't know what you can do either than return the phone.
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Thanks for the help Unicron. I think Brandons method might be my only alternative... but you know what? I already have the box packed up to ship back to Amazon! I am still a noob; I dunno if I could go the distance on this one. I have been updating my Android SDK files since I got the phone but I never got it to recognize boot up thru ADB fastboot. disclaimer* I havent tried it in a couple days since all teh SDK updates completed.
I dunno though I am a big time DIYer when possible. If it werent for the massive amount of tape I put on the box and packing label I would already be trying this method. I can't convince myself just yet. Amazon makes it too easy. I could have the *new* phone by Friday. Then I wouldn't be wasting my remaining work week trying to hack into my personal Christmas present in order to make it function...........................................
Edit - Yes I'm impatient. My job is too demanding and I am trying to set a good precedent for 2013. Wasting the first 3 work days on a phone is not how I intend to start off the year. There is probably a valuable lesson to be learned from this as far as hacking experience and to be honest with the responses here I think I could get it to boot up from PC in SDK/ADB mode and go from there. I just didnt know if that was possible until after I made the claim with Amazon. I still have an entire day today and tomorrow if I want to indulge myself. It doesnt matter if I mail the package today or Wednesday, I can still get it by Friday. I believe this thread is still valuable because we have patterns of repeating past failures and I may find use of it when I recieve my new phone and, darn it, it mysteriously bricks as well. in the same fashion.... the only thing I was really trying to do was get all my apps on my SD card... sad huh?
Edit 2 - Opened up the box, tried fastboot and adb, nothing. Off she goes.
I don't blame you, it sounds easier to exchange in your case any way. The main suggestion I have is if you are getting into any type of build.prop or operating system tweaks that have potential to lead to boot loops or cause the phone not to boot, then unlock the bootloader and install custom recovery.
The Moto-fail method seems limited to only be able to run apps that require root. For me this has no use as I want to be able to have complete control over all aspects of the Android OS. There is not a huge mod community for the Q as yet but I believe Cyanogen will be a reality as Interloper continues working on it. I came from an Epic with Cyanogen and soft-bricked it a minimum of 50 times. CWM was very forgiving on that phone, the Q is a lot more finicky and frustrating.
If you have insurance through the carrier then you are going to pay $150 for a refurb if something goes wrong and you hard brick the phone. If you unlock bootloader and install custom recovery then you have a fail-safe in the form of nandroid backups and restores. Then you can mod away with little fear.
Good luck on the new phone and I hope you don't give up after six days of modding with the Q!
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matt2k12 said:
Thanks for the help Unicron. I think Brandons method might be my only alternative... but you know what? I already have the box packed up to ship back to Amazon! I am still a noob; I dunno if I could go the distance on this one. I have been updating my Android SDK files since I got the phone but I never got it to recognize boot up thru ADB fastboot. disclaimer* I havent tried it in a couple days since all teh SDK updates completed.
I dunno though I am a big time DIYer when possible. If it werent for the massive amount of tape I put on the box and packing label I would already be trying this method. I can't convince myself just yet. Amazon makes it too easy. I could have the *new* phone by Friday. Then I wouldn't be wasting my remaining work week trying to hack into my personal Christmas present in order to make it function...........................................
Edit - Yes I'm impatient. My job is too demanding and I am trying to set a good precedent for 2013. Wasting the first 3 work days on a phone is not how I intend to start off the year. There is probably a valuable lesson to be learned from this as far as hacking experience and to be honest with the responses here I think I could get it to boot up from PC in SDK/ADB mode and go from there. I just didnt know if that was possible until after I made the claim with Amazon. I still have an entire day today and tomorrow if I want to indulge myself. It doesnt matter if I mail the package today or Wednesday, I can still get it by Friday. I believe this thread is still valuable because we have patterns of repeating past failures and I may find use of it when I recieve my new phone and, darn it, it mysteriously bricks as well. in the same fashion.... the only thing I was really trying to do was get all my apps on my SD card... sad huh?
Edit 2 - Opened up the box, tried fastboot and adb, nothing. Off she goes.
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FWIW, pressing vol down + power til it resets then pressing the camera button + power once the screen is black gets you to the Boot Mode Selection Menu, where you can start recovery, fastboot, BP tools (still not sure what that is entirely) and some others. Seems to be a fairly reliable/easy method for getting to both recovery and fastboot from any point.
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FWIW, pressing vol down + power til it resets then pressing the camera button + power once the screen is black gets you to the Boot Mode Selection Menu, where you can start recovery, fastboot, BP tools (still not sure what that is entirely) and some others. Seems to be a fairly reliable/easy method for getting to both recovery and fastboot from any point.
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Sure wish I would have known that ahead of time. Does this work without any recovery mode and with the bootloader still locked?
matt2k12 said:
Sure wish I would have known that ahead of time. Does this work without any recovery mode and with the bootloader still locked?
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It does work without any recovery mode and I believe it still works without the bootloader being unlocked, I didn't know about this myself until after I had already unlocked it. Sorry I couldn't help out sooner.
befrosty8612 said:
It does work without any recovery mode and I believe it still works without the bootloader being unlocked, I didn't know about this myself until after I had already unlocked it. Sorry I couldn't help out sooner.
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Awesome, I am wanting to do the backdoor root method again but, of course, may brick it. I dont think Amazon will keep sending me new ones.... but maybe!
befrosty8612 said:
FWIW, pressing vol down + power til it resets then pressing the camera button + power once the screen is black gets you to the Boot Mode Selection Menu, where you can start recovery, fastboot, BP tools (still not sure what that is entirely) and some others. Seems to be a fairly reliable/easy method for getting to both recovery and fastboot from any point.
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For anyone concerned, I knew it would only be a matter of time until bricking my new device. This damn Root Toolbox Pro did it to me again, and on a simple, menial task. I am going to be working thru the motions on getting this to work.
Using the instructions quoted I did get stock recovery to work or at least flash on the screen for a split second. Seems like there is a timer on the recovery screen. I am having trouble with the fastboot prompt though on the PC. Do I do it in the "platform-tools" folder which contains fastboot or in the "tools" folder of the main SDK directory? I am really a noob, can you give me the cliff notes of how to get into ADB, fastboot, etc on the Photon Q in order to do a factory reset? I already have Android SDK installed and completely up to date so that is done. And Fastboot is installed. I'm just having trouble crossing the finish line here... I can get the fastboot page opened in the stock recovery but from there I'm lost. I dont know what to type into the command prompt, in what directory, or what.... Also when I open the command prompt in the SDK folder on the PC with fastboot in the directory and type "adb reboot bootloader" it says "device not found". Maybe (surely) that is the wrong prompt?
FWIW my phone is showing the dead android guy. I didnt do anything besides try and clear up my Play Store download list which required a reboot. The phone never started back up. I dont know how much damage was done or info was lost or whatever, but seeing as how I was rooted but still locked, I had no custom recovery. So no back ups. Is there anything to restore or am I looking at a full wipe and restore?
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For anyone concerned, I knew it would only be a matter of time until bricking my new device. This damn Root Toolbox Pro did it to me again, and on a simple, menial task. I am going to be working thru the motions on getting this to work.
Using the instructions quoted I did get stock recovery to work or at least flash on the screen for a split second. Seems like there is a timer on the recovery screen. I am having trouble with the fastboot prompt though on the PC. Do I do it in the "platform-tools" folder which contains fastboot or in the "tools" folder of the main SDK directory? I am really a noob, can you give me the cliff notes of how to get into ADB, fastboot, etc on the Photon Q in order to do a factory reset? I already have Android SDK installed and completely up to date so that is done. And Fastboot is installed. I'm just having trouble crossing the finish line here... I can get the fastboot page opened in the stock recovery but from there I'm lost. I dont know what to type into the command prompt, in what directory, or what.... Also when I open the command prompt in the SDK folder on the PC with fastboot in the directory and type "adb reboot bootloader" it says "device not found". Maybe (surely) that is the wrong prompt?
FWIW my phone is showing the dead android guy. I didnt do anything besides try and clear up my Play Store download list which required a reboot. The phone never started back up. I dont know how much damage was done or info was lost or whatever, but seeing as how I was rooted but still locked, I had no custom recovery. So no back ups. Is there anything to restore or am I looking at a full wipe and restore?
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As abnormal as it seems, your situation seems pretty normal... at least from my shoes. I went through the same scenario... I didn't know what adb was, or fastboot, etc. So, here's what I know
the fastboot commands work even if adb doesnt see it in the list of devices attached. Somehow it just works (as long as the phone is in fastboot mode).
If you're able to get to the fastboot mode, things should be okay. Just open a windows explorer window to the Platform-Tools, hold the shift key and right click on a blank space within the window, then click open command window here.
you should be able to pass any adb (if the phone is on and recognized) or fastboot (if phone is in fastboot mode) commands from that command prompt.
Also, if you have a stock recovery, CMW, or TWRP image, this is the folder to copy those .img files to. Once you get your phone into fastboot mode and its plugged into the computer, just type into the command prompt:
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fastboot flash recovery recovery.img
If you're just looking to reboot the phone into recovery
If you have a CWM or TWRP recovery just replace the recovery.img with whatever the .img file that you have. Also, as a tip instead of writing the entire file name, just press the first couple letters then press the tab key within the command prompt, it should fill in the rest. keep pressing tab until you get to the .img file name you want.
To avoid doing this again, maybe I can help... what were you trying to do to begin with? From the sound of it, you were trying to root the phone with the Root Toolbox Pro but it bricked, and then you tried to reboot into recovery and then got the red android... ?
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As abnormal as it seems, your situation seems pretty normal... at least from my shoes. I went through the same scenario... I didn't know what adb was, or fastboot, etc. So, here's what I know
the fastboot commands work even if adb doesnt see it in the list of devices attached. Somehow it just works (as long as the phone is in fastboot mode).
If you're able to get to the fastboot mode, things should be okay. Just open a windows explorer window to the Platform-Tools, hold the shift key and right click on a blank space within the window, then click open command window here.
you should be able to pass any adb (if the phone is on and recognized) or fastboot (if phone is in fastboot mode) commands from that command prompt.
Also, if you have a stock recovery, CMW, or TWRP image, this is the folder to copy those .img files to. Once you get your phone into fastboot mode and its plugged into the computer, just type into the command prompt:
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fastboot flash recovery recovery.img
If you're just looking to reboot the phone into recovery
If you have a CWM or TWRP recovery just replace the recovery.img with whatever the .img file that you have. Also, as a tip instead of writing the entire file name, just press the first couple letters then press the tab key within the command prompt, it should fill in the rest. keep pressing tab until you get to the .img file name you want.
To avoid doing this again, maybe I can help... what were you trying to do to begin with? From the sound of it, you were trying to root the phone with the Root Toolbox Pro but it bricked, and then you tried to reboot into recovery and then got the red android... ?
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Thanks for the response. So, all I have to do is: go to fastboot and flash a stock recovery image file and it will automatically wipe the phone, cache, everything, and restore the operating system? Sounds awfully easy! I found some stock files in this post : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2001226&page=2 Are these the ones you used before?
Last question: I can flash CWM or TWRP but wont be able to access them if my bootloader is locked, correct? So flashing a stock recovery will allow me to have my stock phone back again, locked and un-rooted? I guess if I cant get it to work with the stock recovery then I can unlock the bootloader and do a CWM or TWRP recovery and then flash the stock .img files?
Thanks again for your help. I already had root with the motofail2go method which I like using but seems like when I try and use some generic root feature from apps from the app store that it will crash/brick the phone cuz obviously those apps are generalized and likely to brick certain percentage of devices....
Ok what does this mean? Something with the bootlaoder obviously. Does it need to be unlocked?
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C:\Program Files (x86)\Android\android-sdk\platform-tools>fastboot flash recover
y qrecovery1.img
(bootloader) Variable not supported!
target reported max download size of 31457280 bytes
sending 'recovery' (5962 KB)...
OKAY [ 0.479s]
writing 'recovery'...
(bootloader) Preflash validation failed
FAILED (remote failure)
finished. total time: 0.755s
C:\Program Files (x86)\Android\android-sdk\platform-tools>
And on the phone screen it says "invalid image size for partition recovery" twice for both times I tried this method.
You will need to flash the system image as well if you want those, as the recovery image will only flash the recovery. The files in that link are for twrp only... so you'll have to be able to get there first.
With the custom recoveries, I'm not 100% sure whether or not you will be able to use them without being unlocked. I would wait to see if anyone else can answer that question for you, but if you did try it without an unlocked bootloader, you at least have the stock recovery to fall back on if needed.
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I'm thinking it could either be that your phone is full and the image you're flashing is too large to fit on the space available...
Or you're trying to flash custom software on a locked phone.
Hopefully someone is able to answer that a little better...
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You can't alter the stock recovery (flash a custom recovery like twrp or cwm) in fastboot without having the bootloader unlocked. Your options are to unlock your bootloader, flash custom recovery, create a backup of your current setup, download one of the stock working backups, place it in the backups folder for twrp on your external sd card, and restore one of the known working backups in the development section (befrosty linked to one). Or you could use RSD lite to return to stock using a stock factory firmware flash. That involves connecting your phone to your PC and flashing the phone back to factory stock. Information on RSD Lite and links to the FXZ's can be found here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2095536
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Unfortunately, I've bricked my Acer Tablet after trying to flash this ROM http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1994294
The installscript finished the flash successfully, but after reboot, the bootloader only shows the message "Boot image verified failed" No booting and no CWM Recovery is available no more. I've tried several times to get into the fastboot mode with pressing the Power Button and Volume Button with the two knobs, but nothing helps. Neither switching the screenlock switch on and off. I figured out by trying, how to get into APX mode, but I don't know, if and how that could help me, solving my problem :/
Before I've tried to flash the ROM, I had CM10 with the Stock Bootloader in Unlocked Mode and CWM 6.0.2.3 Touch installed, but the Aroma Installer seems to have destroyed the CWM and locked my Bootloader again. Is there any way to unbrick the tablet now? Any help would be appreciated
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Unfortunately, I've bricked my Acer Tablet after trying to flash this ROM http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1994294
The installscript finished the flash successfully, but after reboot, the bootloader only shows the message "Boot image verified failed" No booting and no CWM Recovery is available no more. I've tried several times to get into the fastboot mode with pressing the Power Button and Volume Button with the two knobs, but nothing helps. Neither switching the screenlock switch on and off. I figured out by trying, how to get into APX mode, but I don't know, if and how that could help me, solving my problem :/
Before I've tried to flash the ROM, I had CM10 with the Stock Bootloader in Unlocked Mode and CWM 6.0.2.3 Touch installed, but the Aroma Installer seems to have destroyed the CWM and locked my Bootloader again. Is there any way to unbrick the tablet now? Any help would be appreciated
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Just let the battery run dry. Then let it boot up normally without pressing any buttons when the battery runs out by connecting it to your charger. Hope it works!
Thanks for the reply. I tried that, but nothing happens, just the indicator LED on the power button turns on orange. The tablet does not boot on itself, if I connect the charger. I have to press the power button, but this results again in "Boot image verified failed"
Edit: Update. I figured out how to get into fastboot. I read something on google, with switching the screenlock switch on and off. That doesnt worked for me: The thing was, to hold the power button AND the volume button with the two knobs, then the tablet starts, to release the power button and THEN, while still HOLDING the volume button pressed, to switch on and off the screenlock button. Then the bootloader starts into fastboot mode, going into androidsdk and typed in cmd "fastboot oem unlock" solved the problem. The ROM starts and everything is fine
Why you don't write into the mentioned thread? There seems to come the issues from then ask there, sorry can't understand why opening new thread instead asking there.
Also the first time heard sucha thing, I also change the rooms from cm10 to Jacobus, back to stock, on cool one and to cm and back, to test everything and try something out.
Never had issues buy this ways
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I don't have the right to post in the proper thread, so I opened up a new one.
In order to install a JB based ROM, you need the JB compatible CWM. The version of CWM you used is apparently for ICS, so I am a little surprised it worked to install CM10. Where did this 6.0.2.3 come from? Use 6.0.1.5 from pawitp. I've used it and swapped/flashed ROMs at least ten times. Never encountered that issue (or any issue). As a matter of fact, I would just run Vorbeth's EasyRoot as it does all the grunt work for you. I've used it twice and it worked flawlessly.
It is just too late... bad luck for me today, I fullbricked the tablet, after performing a restore with CWM 6.0.1.4. Not bootloader, nothing. Just APX Mode.
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It is just too late... bad luck for me today, I fullbricked the tablet, after performing a restore with CWM 6.0.1.4. Not bootloader, nothing. Just APX Mode.
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Hi I had the same issue after flashing from CM10.1 to CoolOne. However I fixed it by unlocking the bootloader => reinstalling recovery => flashing CM 10.1 back.
Did you have any luck recovering from APX?
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Did you have any luck recovering from APX?
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No, unfortunately not. I gave my tablet 2 weeks ago to the acer repair service and got it back today. The support said, that they have changed the mainboard and flashed the latest android on the tablet, but they did that on guarantee, so I didn't had to pay something ^^ Now it is running Android 4.1.1 Stock ROM from Acer.
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I am having the exact same problem. I am able to boot into recovery mode but then I get the android laying down with with the red triangle, question mark. My bootloader is unlocked but aftrer the update my screen is stucked on the ICONIA TAB startup screen.