After three defective captivates, The next time I call at&t I'm going to request a new phone. I know neither of them are out yet and I know the GS2 is schuduled for T-Mobile but it passed the FCC with at&t frequencies so I assume its going to be like the first galaxy where there was different versions for many carriers. If everything works out and they are both released for at&t in may, which phone do you guys think I should get and why?
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Anybody have any luck porting a Infuse over to Cincinnati Bell?
I seem to only get the Edge network and can't receive MMS (even after trying 247,987 different settings....)
What a fantastic device and I sure would hate to lose it.....
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Anybody have any luck porting a Infuse over to Cincinnati Bell?
I seem to only get the Edge network and can't receive MMS (even after trying 247,987 different settings....)
What a fantastic device and I sure would hate to lose it.....
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What bands does Cincinatti Bell use for 3G? If they use the same bands as T-Mobile, this would explain the Infuse being stuck at EDGE. There is no way around this.
They use the same as T-Mobile so it will be edge only.
Yeah it is the same as tmobile. 1700/aws is the typical band for their 3g I'm pretty sure.
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Gentlemen, thanks for the info.
I was fairly certain that was going to be a hard limitation. I just wanted to run it by my XDA friends before I had a visit to eBay.
I was given this by AT&T as a “gift” if I would stay with them and admittedly it was enticing since I actually found the Infuse as close to perfect for my needs.
Oh well “eBay meet my Infuse…..”
Ps – anyone want to make a recommendation on a close replacement out of these choices (or what to avoid);
HTC Panache
Huawei Ascend
Samsung Vibrant
Samsung Nexus s 3g
Dell Streak 5
Motorola Milestone XT720
Tmobile actually has a goods selection of nice android phones like the gtx2 galaxy s 4 and some others which should work nicley on cincy bell. But if tmobile merges with att idk if they will tell bell to find a new frequency or if since they are local att won't care thinking it won't clog up the data bandwidth too much. Then you'd do all this for nothing you know what I mean lol
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If you liked the infuse, the vibrant is going to be very similar, possibly the nexus s as well. Personally, I would grab a tmobile HTC sensation from the marketplace on here or eBay for 350-400 or so and use that.
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I would avoid Huawei at all costs. Their policy on updates is, "Want an update? Buy this slightly modified variant of the same device you already own." and "Accessories? What accessories? That dock connector is just there to look pretty and sell tablets to idiots like you that don't know us yet."
Yes, I'm a VERY bitter S7 owner.
@Mods, this is a thread about the Nexus line in general, even if I am referencing the Galaxy Nexus. Please don't move.
Not sure if anyone else is following the official unveiling of the Verizon Galaxy Nexus, but it is a Verizon-branded, Verizon-bloatware phone (2 Verizon apps. Whether it's "bloatware" or not, that's semantics; they shouldn't be there).
The question at hand is whether updates are still pushed from Google, and not through Verizon. The fact that it's a carrier subsidized and carrier-branded phone with two carrier-related apps makes it possible that it updates may have to go through Verizon first. This would defeat the purpose of what the Nexus line is supposed to be, if true.
Yet the bigger question is: What does a Nexus phone represent now? Many are up in arms about it, and it's a question for all Nexus fans/users.
My understanding is that the Sprint Nexus S 4G also includes Sprint apps. What is happening with the Nexus line? Is Google changing what it represents and means?
I can't speak for all and I have the nexus s 4g SPRINT and well I was only stock for like 15 mins but we don't have ANY sprint bloat
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@Mods, this is a thread about the Nexus line in general, even if I am referencing the Galaxy Nexus. Please don't move.
Not sure if anyone else is following the official unveiling of the Verizon Galaxy Nexus, but it is a Verizon-branded, Verizon-bloatware phone (2 Verizon apps. Whether it's "bloatware" or not, that's semantics; they shouldn't be there).
The question at hand is whether updates are still pushed from Google, and not through Verizon. The fact that it's a carrier subsidized and carrier-branded phone with two carrier-related apps makes it possible that it updates may have to go through Verizon first. This would defeat the purpose of what the Nexus line is supposed to be, if true.
Yet the bigger question is: What does a Nexus phone represent now? Many are up in arms about it, and it's a question for all Nexus fans/users.
My understanding is that the Sprint Nexus S 4G also includes Sprint apps. What is happening with the Nexus line? Is Google changing what it represents and means?
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I can't speak for all and I have the nexus s 4g SPRINT and well I was only stock for like 15 mins but we don't have ANY sprint bloat
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I could be mistaken. Thanks for clarifying. That's good.
The NS4G includes some special sprint apks with functionality to allow flashing the PRL and profile. I don't see why it's out of the question to have the Verizon Galaxy Nexus support similar stuff.
ICS has functionality to disable built-in applications on /system if you don't want them anyway.
The Nexus line receives it's updates from google servers, but they still have to go through all the regular carrier testing that phones receive. That's how it's always been. Do you think the carriers would really want an update to a phone to wreck havok on their network? It's not like these updates are trivial.
fastboot oem unlock
REALLY?
ICS has a new feature to disable apps.
That said if you buy a dev phone you will format and flash anyway so who cares? Not me anyway.
I'm unprepared to speak on the state of the Nexus before I even hold the new one in my hand. As a T-Mobile customer, the launch has been disappointing, but only as much so as it was for customers of every other carrier when the Nexus S launched.
I wouldn't say the nexus line is dead more than its not in the spot light
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We have never had a Nexus phone launch with a carrier partner before, so we have nothing to compare it to.
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The Nexus line receives it's updates from google servers, but they still have to go through all the regular carrier testing that phones receive. That's how it's always been. Do you think the carriers would really want an update to a phone to wreck havok on their network? It's not like these updates are trivial.
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That's NOT how it works. Maybe for certain carriers. I know for a fact that T-Mobile does not recognize the Nexus S as a phone they support/sell. When i was grabbing one back last December, they made it clear to me over the phone that they offer ZERO support for the phone or any of its problems (reboot 5 times a day, anyone?) All "support" comes from the phone's radios ability to communicate on T-Mo towers, and Google's OTA updates, which I think we can agree were shoddy at best. T-Mo doesn't want to have anything to do with the NS updates.
Sprint, on the other hand, has some updates they perform on their end. It's all carrier-dependent. The idea of the perfect Nexus line staying completely pure went to hell when the NS4G was released, and when Google decided to screw over GSM Nexus S users with the Google Wallet thing. Don't think for a second that there wasn't money changing hands over that 4g exlusive release.
I think, in this case, Verizon's just being dicks as usual and strong-arming everyone. Google could have told them to stick it where the sun dont shine, but would have missed out on the biggest portion of the market in the US.
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Also, as far as people on T-Mo being disappointed or not -- I'd be wary of purchasing ANY new phone based off T-Mo compatibility with the pending takeover by AT&T. Yet another reason I WONT be getting this phone.
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Also, as far as people on T-Mo being disappointed or not -- I'd be wary of purchasing ANY new phone based off T-Mo compatibility with the pending takeover by AT&T. Yet another reason I WONT be getting this phone.
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The Galaxy nexus is launching in Canada on Bell. So there will be a Galaxy nexus with AT&T compatible frequencies.
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Also, as far as people on T-Mo being disappointed or not -- I'd be wary of purchasing ANY new phone based off T-Mo compatibility with the pending takeover by AT&T. Yet another reason I WONT be getting this phone
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So far I have no reason to be concerned about it. First of all, the merger may well not go through. Second, if it does go through, there's no way it will before the middle of next year. Third, even if there are no further technical, business, or legal issues from that point on it's highly unlikely they'll start disassembling the T-Mobile network for at least a few months after the deal closes. Fourth, it's part of the merger terms that T-Mobile customers will get new phones when the switch happens. Fifth, since the GSM Galaxy Nexus works on AT&T and T-Mobile bands, there's a good chance it will work on a combined network anyway.
So I wouldn't go so far as to mute your cautionary note- even with those caveats there are still important concerns- but I would perhaps turn it down a notch or two.
Isn't the GSM version quad band anyway?
Yeah it probably will work on both carriers. Good point there. So that part of my argument I guess is moot.
I still stand by my opinion on the TRUE Nexus experience having disappeared when the NS4G came out.
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Isn't the GSM version quad band anyway?
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The Galaxy Nexus is the first pentaband phone running Android. It will run on any GSM 3G network in the world.
Wait a sec though.....thats 3g. NOT 4g. What's the deal with HSPA+ compatibility bands? I guess I'm not QUITE ready to ditch the ATT/T-Mo issue yet.
It's pentaband hspa+ which by default means it will also be pentaband 3g
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there are also confirming some GN are coming SIM LOCKED! by the carriers
bloatware + SIM locking is everything against the basic ideal behind Nexus
so, in a way, seems like Nexus is slowly fading away... it just seems to stand for new AOSP now, no more of its original self
even the hardware has been sucking since Nexus S
it's sinking into a mere reference phone for development
In the US, the average consumer prefers the carrier-subsidized model, they have shown this with their wallets.
Nexus One tried selling from just a website.
Nexus S tried selling in a big box retailer.
Galaxy Nexus is now carrier-subsidized, carrier-branded.
As I think irishrally already said, as long as fastboot oem unlock is enabled, just accept that as all we really want anway
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That's NOT how it works. Maybe for certain carriers. I know for a fact that T-Mobile does not recognize the Nexus S as a phone they support/sell. When i was grabbing one back last December, they made it clear to me over the phone that they offer ZERO support for the phone or any of its problems (reboot 5 times a day, anyone?) All "support" comes from the phone's radios ability to communicate on T-Mo towers, and Google's OTA updates, which I think we can agree were shoddy at best. T-Mo doesn't want to have anything to do with the NS updates.
Sprint, on the other hand, has some updates they perform on their end. It's all carrier-dependent. The idea of the perfect Nexus line staying completely pure went to hell when the NS4G was released, and when Google decided to screw over GSM Nexus S users with the Google Wallet thing. Don't think for a second that there wasn't money changing hands over that 4g exlusive release.
I think, in this case, Verizon's just being dicks as usual and strong-arming everyone. Google could have told them to stick it where the sun dont shine, but would have missed out on the biggest portion of the market in the US.
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Also, as far as people on T-Mo being disappointed or not -- I'd be wary of purchasing ANY new phone based off T-Mo compatibility with the pending takeover by AT&T. Yet another reason I WONT be getting this phone.
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I really hope sprint didn't waste money on wallet 4g users are such a small subset I think its a small beta and with sprint nit having many people soo
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Hello,
I just wanted to know if anyone here in the states is using an unlocked international ONE S and using it on either AT&T or an AT&T MVNO (Straight Talk, H20, Red Pocket)
If so, I have a couple of questions.
1. How well does the phone perform on stock radio's?
2. If on an MVNO, have you hit a limit and been throttled (I've researched this, and come up with different answers throughout forums, so that's why I'm specifically asking the One S community)
3. If I don't decide to root, do updates come straight from HTC?
4. Probably off topic, but does anyone have a recommended seller of an international ONE S at a decent price? I recently sold my Verizon Galaxy Nexus and can afford something in the 400-480 range
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My carrier is US Cellular, but I notice this site has very little for the carrier. They have many of the newest phones, I picked up a note 3 (SM-N900R4) from there a little bit ago, and went to xda to find out what they had. I noticed that there are many threads for the seperate carriers, but not for US Cellular, this didn't affect me too much with my old phone, the mesmerize (SCH-I500), but most of the differences were small and could be overcome by using romkonverter. But I'm sure I'm not the only one getting frustrated with this site's lack of US Cellular support. What I'm asking is why is there so little support for US Cellular? Could I do anything about it?
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My carrier is US Cellular, but I notice this site has very little for the carrier. They have many of the newest phones, I picked up a note 3 (SM-N900R4) from there a little bit ago, and went to xda to find out what they had. I noticed that there are many threads for the seperate carriers, but not for US Cellular, this didn't affect me too much with my old phone, the mesmerize (SCH-I500), but most of the differences were small and could be overcome by using romkonverter. But I'm sure I'm not the only one getting frustrated with this site's lack of US Cellular support. What I'm asking is why is there so little support for US Cellular? Could I do anything about it?
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i guess i would say that us cellular is a a bit more unpopular then Verizon/t-mobile/at&t carriers. its kinda strange that virgin mobile gets some devices on here such as the lg optimus V which is still being sold and is a great phone for such little specs. you could check here http://teamuscellular.com/Forum/forum/259-android-development/ i just recently found out about it
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i guess i would say that us cellular is a a bit more unpopular then Verizon/t-mobile/at&t carriers. its kinda strange that virgin mobile gets some devices on here such as the lg optimus V which is still being sold and is a great phone for such little specs.
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I'm seeing development for the note 3 all over on xda, but the site you linked me to has very little to say about anything related to the note 3. I know there is development going on for the US Cellular note 3 because in the generic note 3 page (no carrier labeled), there is maybe one or two examples of things listing the SM-N900R4 as compatible, but not nearly as much as I would imagine, considering they all use the same hardware. For my mez, the only difference with that and the fascinate were the apns, you could flash kernels and roms for fassy on mez without romkonverter. I don't know what differences are in all the variances, but what I would like to know is, how could I actively get this site more involved with the development US Cellular devices?
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I'm seeing development for the note 3 all over on xda, but the site you linked me to has very little to say about anything related to the note 3. I know there is development going on for the US Cellular note 3 because in the generic note 3 page (no carrier labeled), there is maybe one or two examples of things listing the SM-N900R4 as compatible, but not nearly as much as I would imagine, considering they all use the same hardware. For my mez, the only difference with that and the fascinate were the apns, you could flash kernels and roms for fassy on mez without romkonverter. I don't know what differences are in all the variances, but what I would like to know is, how could I actively get this site more involved with the development US Cellular devices?
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probably only developing a rom on your own or with another person. start with Cyanogenmod, always the easiest to me.