Hi,
I bought a Xperia Arc S two weeks ago,
Which are the main advantages of unlocking the bootloader?
Should I do it now or wait till the warranty ends?
Thanks a lot
jfgi
https://www.google.com/search?q=Unlock+bootloader+advantages
I just want an opinion if it is to soon to unlock it or not!
How should we know if it to soon?
To soon till what???
Is there something you want to do that requires an unlocked bootloader, do it.
If not why would you want to do it?
If you just want to have an unlocked bootloader for having an unlocked bootloader, do it.
Your choice.
Dark3n said:
How should we know if it to soon?
To soon till what???
Is there something you want to do that requires an unlocked bootloader, do it.
If not why would you want to do it?
If you just want to have an unlocked bootloader for having an unlocked bootloader, do it.
Your choice.
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Yeap! I wanted to install some themes because I think its to soon to install a ROM!
But to install themes I also need the bootloaded unlocked!
The phone has 2 weeks! I think its too soon
unlock the bootloader... its not a big deal... just make sure you correctly follow any and all directions
The only thing Im worried about is the warranty!
I dont know if Im gonna need it! xD
im not familiar with your device, so researching this is on you... but you may be able to re-lock the bootloater... if you can, i say go for it
Thanks Probably will!
best of luck to ya! im sure youve found it... but if not, i believe the link below is the correct one for your device
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=962
You can screw your phone up the same amount by changing theme, as changing the ROM.
Unlocking the bootloader will void your warranty, you can't unvoid warranty, once gone its gone. You can hope to restore it to a state where they won't notice, but the warranty is nothing physical you can handle, but something legal.
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I have a stock, rooted, bootloader locked One X. I want the new update due to all of the speed and bug improvements. However, I don't want to lose root, or the ability to flash roms if I ever wanted to. I also do not wish to void the warranty due to my bad luck with phones in the past. Now two questions:
Can I supercid and get an unlock token without HTC voiding my warranty? Possibly with http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1732980 ?
Second, would that token be valid after RUU'ing to the 2.20 update if I ever chose to void my warranty and unlock the bootloader?
I would like to thank anyone who replies for their time, and although I have researched quite a bit, I would like to clarify with everyone before taking the plunge.
You're going to void the warranty if you unlock the bootloader. Their is no way around that, well except for sometimes you can relock the boot loader then they would still service it. Kinda like jail breaking and unjailbreaking iPhone except its harder
McMichael96 said:
You're going to void the warranty if you unlock the bootloader. Their is no way around that, well except for sometimes you can relock the boot loader then they would style service it. Kinda like jail breaking and unjailbreaking iPhone accept its harder
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This is more about keeping my options open. I'm not planning on unlocking the bootloader unless I have to. I'm just trying to retain the method of doing so if I ever wanted/needed to while enjoying the latest update. Sorry for not stating my intentions clearly.
Lightfall said:
I have a stock, rooted, bootloader locked One X. I want the new update due to all of the speed and bug improvements. However, I don't want to lose root, or the ability to flash roms if I ever wanted to. I also do not wish to void the warranty due to my bad luck with phones in the past. Now two questions:
Can I supercid and get an unlock token without HTC voiding my warranty? Possibly with http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1732980 ?
Second, would that token be valid after RUU'ing to the 2.20 update if I ever chose to void my warranty and unlock the bootloader?
I would like to thank anyone who replies for their time, and although I have researched quite a bit, I would like to clarify with everyone before taking the plunge.
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Ok 1. If you have supercid you already have altered your stock settings. So even if you use a spoof cid method if you ever have to return it guess what... you have to enter your information lol. Unless you change it back to your original super cid before hand HTC could in theory void your warranty. RUUing does not remove supercid it must be changed back manually. In all reality they have to "legally" tell you that they "can" void your warranty. I havent seen them void a warranty just because one had an unlocked bootloader. As long as the phone can be recovered by them you should be ok.
The screen on my first HOX got cracked, I re-locked the bootloader and RUU'd back to stock ROM ( left supercid on it) filed my claim with asurion Got a replacement next day, sent old one back no issues. Remember when you re lock that is displayed you cant change it to say locked as we dont have s-off. However I tracked my old phones return HTC recieved it back roughly 4 days after I mailed it off and asurion did their thing. It has been over a month now and havent heard anything about them not honoring the return. See people dont understand that even if you have insurance, warranty etc HTC can at anytime still according to their legal statements not honor a returned phone or etc. So if HTC doesn't honor it asurion will be adding a hefty fee to the next months bill lol. But like I said before as long as they can recover it I havent heard of anyone having warranty, insurance issues.
2. Yes once you get your unlock token with supercid it is valid no matter what firmware you use. However you must always keep the supercid after unlocking because if you change back to your original CID the unlock token you received wit supercid will fail to flash!
3. My suggestion. Follow threads here to get supercid, Unlock your bootloader, then update, re unlock, flash super user.
U do or do not have superuser permission? U can get your unlockbincode from HTC. They have a disclaimer when doing this. "May void your warranty" it says. However ONLY if u have done this before update, u should be able to unlock after update. So Unlock bootloader from htc before upgrade, then use unlockbincode, root after. NO GUARANTEE ON WARRANTY regardless.
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U do or do not have superuser permission? U can get your unlockbincode from HTC. They have a disclaimer when doing this. "May void your warranty" it says. However ONLY if u have done this before update, u should be able to unlock after update. So Unlock bootloader from htc before upgrade, then use unlockbincode, root after. NO GUARANTEE ON WARRANTY regardless.
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I DO have superuser permission. If I were to use the unlock method that does not involve htcdev, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1732980 , they wouldn't have any idea and if I never unlocked then they would have no way of knowing I had an unlock code. This is just in case I decide to unlock later after the update.
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I DO have superuser permission. If I were to use the unlock method that does not involve htcdev, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1732980 , they wouldn't have any idea and if I never unlocked then they would have no way of knowing I had an unlock code. This is just in case I decide to unlock later after the update.
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but they would unless you manually went back in and removed supercid. This method will give you supercid which would then tell HTC you altered your phone lol.
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Ok 1. If you have supercid you already have altered your stock settings. So even if you use a spoof cid method if you ever have to return it guess what... you have to enter your information lol. Unless you change it back to your original super cid before hand HTC could in theory void your warranty. RUUing does not remove supercid it must be changed back manually. In all reality they have to "legally" tell you that they "can" void your warranty. I havent seen them void a warranty just because one had an unlocked bootloader. As long as the phone can be recovered by them you should be ok.
The screen on my first HOX got cracked, I re-locked the bootloader and RUU'd back to stock ROM ( left supercid on it) filed my claim with asurion Got a replacement next day, sent old one back no issues. Remember when you re lock that is displayed you cant change it to say locked as we dont have s-off. However I tracked my old phones return HTC recieved it back roughly 4 days after I mailed it off and asurion did their thing. It has been over a month now and havent heard anything about them not honoring the return. See people dont understand that even if you have insurance, warranty etc HTC can at anytime still according to their legal statements not honor a returned phone or etc. So if HTC doesn't honor it asurion will be adding a hefty fee to the next months bill lol. But like I said before as long as they can recover it I havent heard of anyone having warranty, insurance issues.
2. Yes once you get your unlock token with supercid it is valid no matter what firmware you use. However you must always keep the supercid after unlocking because if you change back to your original CID the unlock token you received wit supercid will fail to flash!
3. My suggestion. Follow threads here to get supercid, Unlock your bootloader, then update, re unlock, flash super user.
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So the modified supercid file will stick even after a full RUU? This is why I'm checking with you guys because I've heard otherwise so it's hard to tell what's right.
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So the modified supercid file will stick even after a full RUU? This is why I'm checking with you guys because I've heard otherwise so it's hard to tell what's right.
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yes once you have supercid the "current" firmware builds do not overwrite it. They may later release a build that does but 2.20 does not.
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yes once you have supercid the "current" firmware builds do not overwrite it. They may later release a build that does but 2.20 does not.
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So because supercid sticks after the update, and because I would need bootloader unlock to modify it to stock, my whole evil plan has been foiled then. Darn... And you're saying bootloader unlock would probably only cause issues on a software related warranty return?
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So because supercid sticks after the update, and because I would need bootloader unlock to modify it to stock, my whole evil plan has been foiled then. Darn... And you're saying bootloader unlock would probably only cause issues on a software related warranty return?
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Not necessarily. You can always relock and RUU back to stock, and as long as they can "recover" the phone they shouldn't have a problem with it. Even if the HOX gets official bootloader unlock support from HTC they still give this warning. Right now there is no official bootloader unlock support. All the exploits to unlock the bootloader are just that an exploit hack lol. We arent suppose to be able to unlock them right now. However thats ATT's fault not HTC's. I guess its a 50/50 deal if you get someone who wants to be a prick that day if you have to return it then probably voided warranty. If you get someone cool probably ok. Its hard to say as I havent seen them void a warranty just for a unlocked bootloader. But now if you have unlocked then screw the phone up so bad they cant even fix it thats a different story lol.
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Not necessarily. You can always relock and RUU back to stock, and as long as they can "recover" the phone they shouldn't have a problem with it. Even if the HOX gets official bootloader unlock support from HTC they still give this warning. Right now there is no official bootloader unlock support. All the exploits to unlock the bootloader are just that an exploit hack lol. We arent suppose to be able to unlock them right now. However thats ATT's fault not HTC's. I guess its a 50/50 deal if you get someone who wants to be a prick that day if you have to return it then probably voided warranty. If you get someone cool probably ok. Its hard to say as I havent seen them void a warranty just for a unlocked bootloader. But now if you have unlocked then screw the phone up so bad they cant even fix it thats a different story lol.
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I used to have a captivate before this phone and I'm used to flashing one ROM after another. You telling me to just unlock my One X is like telling a former heroine addict to shoot some up for their birthday. You're not making this easy for me lol.
Lightfall said:
I used to have a captivate before this phone and I'm used to flashing one ROM after another. You telling me to just unlock my One X is like telling a former heroine addict to shoot some up for their birthday. You're not making this easy for me lol.
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lol
Will I get my warranty back when I unroot my phone after unlocking the boot loader and rooting ..can we relock the boot loader ..i'm new to rooting ..pls help
Lakshya said:
Will I get my warranty back when I unroot my phone after unlocking the boot loader and rooting ..can we relock the boot loader ..i'm new to rooting ..pls help
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Yes. You'll also want to 'untamper' it.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.segv11.bootunlocker
Lakshya said:
Will I get my warranty back when I unroot my phone after unlocking the boot loader and rooting ..can we relock the boot loader ..i'm new to rooting ..pls help
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That's a philosophical question. Unlocking the bootloader may have voided your warranty. Just because you re-lock it doesn't magically bring with it a new warranty.
jd1639 said:
That's a philosophical question. Unlocking the bootloader may have voided your warranty. Just because you re-lock it doesn't magically bring with it a new warranty.
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Not new warranty.. I'm asking can I take my phone back to the lg store for repairs when it is in warranty ?or will they not accept it saying your warranty is void ..I want to put cm11 and that would require both unlocking boot loader rooting the device ..so ..noob here ..help ..thanks
If a bootloader in the forest is unlocked and then relocked, and nobody sees, was it really ever unlocked?
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Yes. You'll also want to 'untamper' it.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.segv11.bootunlocker
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I knew there was script/binary for resetting the tamper flag, but I didn't realize there was an actual app for it. I'm surprised Google allows such an app on the Play Store.
Lakshya said:
Not new warranty.. I'm asking can I take my phone back to the lg store for repairs when it is in warranty ?or will they not accept it saying your warranty is void ..I want to put cm11 and that would require both unlocking boot loader rooting the device ..so ..noob here ..help ..thanks
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We can argue semantics all day long. The bottom line is, if you're having a problem with your phone, as long as it's not caused by your third-party modifications, they should honor your warranty. Now should you damage your phone or render it inoperable in the process of modding, they absolutely won't cover that under the warranty, as they shouldn't. This is a risk you take when you choose to mod your phone, so absolutely do your due dilligence and proceed with utmost caution when using third-party modifications.
how to root moto g without unlock bootloader?
Right now there is no solution. Maybe one day, but don't hold your breath.
ok, and unlocking bootloader can be reverted to locked bootloader for warranty as it was never unlocked? when bootloader is locked theres any difference or alert, like the alter triangle in samsung phones with unlocked bootloader?
When the bootloader is unlocked there is a warning when you boot, but there's a solution published in these forums for how to revert to the normal Motorola boot screen. You can relock the bootloader but it doesn't restore the warranty as Motorola have a list of which phones have been unlocked.
However in Europe unlocking the bootloader does not invalidate your warranty, regardless of what Motorola might say. You also have an automatic 2-year warranty on all purchases.
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ok, and unlocking bootloader can be reverted to locked bootloader for warranty as it was never unlocked? when bootloader is locked theres any difference or alert, like the alter triangle in samsung phones with unlocked bootloader?
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To unlock Bootloader you have to submit "fastboot oem get_unlock_data" on Motorola's website and you'll get the unlock code. If you do so they have your device in their database. Secondary it is flagged in the device itself if i remember right.
ok but ive just spoken with motorola support in italy, they told me that if the phone had any software modification they wont provide anymore warranty
I know that to unlock sony phone you have to get from their website also a code, but that dont get you warranty off, in italy ive sent the phone in assistance and they didnt even check that database
anyway i hope there will be a way to root without losing warranty in near future, like for samsung flashing prerooted stock firmware
i just want root to restore data from a titanium backup for 1 app from my previous android phone, nothing more
raniero1 said:
ok but ive just spoken with motorola support in italy, they told me that if the phone had any software modification they wont provide anymore warranty
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I'm not sure with this, but i think, in Europe you'll have full warrenty anyway on the Hardware as long as you did not destroy it by a software failure. So for e.g. if you unlock Bootloader only and your screen will be dead later which is not caused by a software modification you'll have full warrenty on the Hardware. But if it comes hard, it might be difficult to deliver a proper proof to Motorola that it is a manufacturers fault.
This is the chat i had right now with motorola germany
Ben: Hallo, mein Name ist Ben. Wie kann ich Ihnen helfen?
me: Hello, can i just ask you a question in english?
Ben: Sure, how can I help?
me: Thank you very much, i just would like to know if phone unlocking, about moto g, void warranty
me: With phone unlocking i mean bootload unlocking
Ben: Yes, this will void the warranty.
me: Ok thank you ben
me: goodbye
Ben: You are very welcome, bye for now.
This is also written in their licence Agreement. I doubt that it is applicable to EU law in this way. But as i said i don't know for sure, I'm not a lawyer. They can write and say a lot if the day is long and of course they will not give you any legal advice which will be against their own terms.. If you ask them they will always answer what they want. Terms can sometimes be futile. Maybe you can ask in a lawyers Forum. Many more will be interested in that
EDIT: In Germany you have the Terms Gewährleistung und Garantie. It can be that the Gewährleistung will be lost because it is voluntary given to you by the vendor. But with my above mentioned Situation the Garantie will be still applicable as in aboves case, at least in Germany. But as i said I don't know for sure. This is what i read in the last weeks about this.
NOT SURE IF IT IS REALLY LIKE THAT!!!
EDIT: If you can understand German you might read this. Maybe I'll find this also in English.
EDIT: Several Laguages:
Directive 1999/44/EC of the European Parliament and of the Council of 25 May 1999 on certain aspects of the sale of consumer goods and associated guarantees
I have unlocked the bootloader and if a hardware fault occured I would ask Motorola to fix it, if they said no as my warranty is void (and refuse to fix it whatever I say) my only option is to then take to them court. Am I going to do that over a £160 phone - no Im not, I'll just buy a new phone as taking Motorola to court isnt something I fancy doing
I guess there may be other options, eg some sort of civil rights organization which helps with warranty issues which may or may not cost money, but even if its free its still going to cost a lot of my time.
I think if you unlock the bootloader you really want to acknowledge that the chances are that Motorola wont be fixing your phone, whether thats lawfully right or wrong may not be worth your time and money arguing over.
Personally I wouldnt blame Motorola for telling me that made my choice and now to live with it.
What I do think is a shame is that they dont officially release the stock images of the moto g as they do with their dev editions of some phones. After all that may remove a lot of support calls they get (and then refuse) from people that have screwed up their moto g's by unlocking and rooting etc.
scott_doyland said:
I have unlocked the bootloader and if a hardware fault occured I would ask Motorola to fix it, if they said no as my warranty is void (and refuse to fix it whatever I say) my only option is to then take to them court. Am I going to do that over a £160 phone - no Im not, I'll just buy a new phone as taking Motorola to court isnt something I fancy doing
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Did you buy the phone from Motorola directly? Probably no.
Amazon, Tesco, Phones4you etc...
The warranty contract which is provided by EU law is not between you and the manufacturer (Motorola), but between you and the seller.
So if you have a hardware fault, you send/take the phone back to the seller. It's true that If they don't replace it right away, they'll probably send it to Motorola for repair anyways, and Motorola can say that your warranty is void.
But in this article this article they say:
"In case the seller refuses your right to repair or replace the device, you can sue him in a civil litigation and can report the incident to the national authority. In many European countries such action does not even require hiring a lawyer and is most of the time ensured by consumers associations."
Thanks for the info, its obvious to me now that I'd go to phones4u - just as I would return any faulty appliance to the seller. It would be interesting to see what happened if I ever had to do that, but i hope I don't have to.
cwm without unlocking
can we install cwm by this method ( http://motorola-g.blogspot.in/2013/12/how-to-install-cwmtwrp-custom-recovery.html?m=1 )without unlocking? if possible we can install pre rooted roms by cwm. am a noobie... guide me pls
balajiasmartguy said:
can we install cwm by this method ( http://motorola-g.blogspot.in/2013/12/how-to-install-cwmtwrp-custom-recovery.html?m=1 )without unlocking? if possible we can install pre rooted roms by cwm. am a noobie... guide me pls
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You can't. Atm it's not possible root moto g without unlock bl. There are not other ways for now.
denzel09 said:
You can't. Atm it's not possible root moto g without unlock bl. There are not other ways for now.
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cwm?
balajiasmartguy said:
cwm?
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Without unlock bootloader you can not boot or flash a custom recovery on moto g. It is not possible in our case. Again.
y its not possible... in recovery it has a option to install update from SD card... with this can't we install cwm? correct me if I am wrong...
For root on g you need:
unlock bootloader,
custom recovery.
If you don't unlock bootloader forget root.
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For root on g you need:
unlock bootloader,
custom recovery.
If you don't unlock bootloader forget root.
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am sorry for disturbing you. am not asking about root. can I install cwm directly without unlocking... using install update from SD card option in stock recovery...
balajiasmartguy said:
am sorry for disturbing you. am not asking about root. can I install cwm directly without unlocking... using install update from SD card option in stock recovery...
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No
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I purchased a Verizon htc one m8 off some guy and i went home erased the phone a 2nd time and realized something called SuperSu was installed and i knew right then & there this fool gave sold me rooted phone so i click the app and pressed full unroot then restarted the phone the app was erased... Restarted the phone in bootloader mode or what ever and the top says Unlocked and S-off but no tampered sign and the software status says official so the questions i have are
1) Do i have to re root this phone in order to lock the bootloader and return to S-on?
2) Will re locking the bootloader or returning to S-on brick my device or any chance of bricking my device ?
3)If my software status says official is that good or bad ?
4) Will i be able to install future updates at all if i leave the device like it is now ?
Thnak you for taking your time to read this.
Why would you want to relock it? Learn how to do things this way and take advantage is the fact that you aren't locked down to Verizon's chains.
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silver04v said:
Why would you want to relock it? Learn how to do things this way and take advantage is the fact that you aren't locked down to Verizon's chains.
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well i pay 11 dollars for a warranty i need my warranty lol...
MH1994 said:
well i pay 11 dollars for a warranty i need my warranty lol...
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Verizon doesnt care if its rooted or S-OFF.
If I have to send a phone back I send it with my own ROMS on them.
They have never said anything.
As well, I dont recommend turning S-On as you have a much greater chance of bricking the phone.
I would just leave it as it is... Well, actually... I would load my ROM
Well lol
scrosler said:
Verizon doesnt care if its rooted or S-OFF.
If I have to send a phone back I send it with my own ROMS on them.
They have never said anything.
As well, I dont recommend turning S-On as you have a much greater chance of bricking the phone.
I would just leave it as it is... Well, actually... I would load my ROM
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well software wise i think they would i mean if my software messed up it would be "my fault" lol...i dont think they would replace my phone
I want to do this. Is there a way to do so and retain data?
gunnyman said:
I want to do this. Is there a way to do so and retain data?
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via fastboot...
fastboot oem lock
I don't recall if it factory defaults, as I rarely lock
bootloader locked now won't boot
All I want to do is run the RUU to get it back to stock
gunnyman said:
bootloader locked now won't boot
All I want to do is run the RUU to get it back to stock
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Download appropriate RUU from https://forum.xda-developers.com/u11/how-to/collection-htcu-u11-ruu-firmware-t3612048 place it on SD card, rename to 2PZCIMG.zip, put SD card into phone, press & hold vol down and power button to boot into download mode and confirm RUU flashing (battery should be over 30 or something %)
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I have twrp still installed recovery won't start and it doesn't boot
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I have twrp still installed recovery won't start and it doesn't boot
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I edited my post for better description. You should do what it says there (you need to boot to download mode).
Also relocking bootloader with twrp still installed is a no no
Ok. Thanks. I'm charging phone now I got running ruu exe sorted. Thanks for the push in the right direction
gunnyman said:
Ok. Thanks. I'm charging phone now I got running ruu exe sorted. Thanks for the push in the right direction
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Np.. Hope you get it sorted.
(the steps I described I described are for sd card method, if there is ruu exe for your variant you should just follow instructions once you start ruu exe on your computer)
I was freaking out because I was getting USB error 170 running the RUU. Got it all sorted out and am back up and running.
gunnyman said:
I was freaking out because I was getting USB error 170 running the RUU. Got it all sorted out and am back up and running.
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Good to hear :good:
Sorry to hijack the thread but is there any way to unlock bootloader without going through the htcdev method? I believe that the warranty is voided if i unlock my bootloader and the support will not entertain any hardware damage (not caused by me) which is why i wanted to unlock without using htcdev. Any info is appreciated, thanks!
tokenbest said:
Sorry to hijack the thread but is there any way to unlock bootloader without going through the htcdev method? I believe that the warranty is voided if i unlock my bootloader and the support will not entertain any hardware damage (not caused by me) which is why i wanted to unlock without using htcdev. Any info is appreciated, thanks!
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There isn't at least for now. And in any case until there is s-off even if there was other way it will show as relocked and modified after you lock it again.
there's no sunshine in the sky for now, but warranty is not voided in most countries/cases anyway.
velimircek said:
There isn't at least for now. And in any case until there is s-off even if there was other way it will show as relocked and modified after you lock it again.
there's no sunshine in the sky for now, but warranty is not voided in most countries/cases anyway.
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Thanks but sadly.. the customer support for HTC Singapore said warranty would be void after unlocking bootloader and any issues would not be covered, seriously though -_- sucks to hear that and making me hesitate on purchasing a U11 currently.
tokenbest said:
Thanks but sadly.. the customer support for HTC Singapore said warranty would be void after unlocking bootloader and any issues would not be covered, seriously though -_- sucks to hear that and making me hesitate on purchasing a U11 currently.
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I got the same response from HTC Czech Republic: unlocking the bootloader would instantly void my warranty, plus they said that warranty-keeping bootloader unlock is possible only in that one special case for US customers, the rest of the world voids their warranty by doing so :/
Rant on the side: I truly despise not being allowed to get root privileges without voiding the warranty - it is MY device, yet I can't control the system. I want to do MY own backups, control (or inspect) the data apps save to MY phone, and control the configuration of MY system. I really hate being locked out from even such basic configurations as the hosts file is - I'm effectively barred from some aspects of web development so that advertisements can be shoved down my throat
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bootloader locked now won't boot
All I want to do is run the RUU to get it back to stock
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How did you get it to relock? i keep getting a failed messaged with the command above.
C:\adb>fastboot oem lock
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FAILED (remote: unknown command)
finished. total time: 0.004s
tokenbest said:
Sorry to hijack the thread but is there any way to unlock bootloader without going through the htcdev method? I believe that the warranty is voided if i unlock my bootloader and the support will not entertain any hardware damage (not caused by me) which is why i wanted to unlock without using htcdev. Any info is appreciated, thanks!
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Right now it's only with the 175 USD XTC2Clip with all the attachments including the power adapter - and as of my last look, it cannot factory lock the bootloader thanks to temporary S-OFF so it will show up as relocked which will void the warranty anyway. In other words, we are all out of luck for now.
And it remains to be seen if HTC actually lets us keep our warranty in the US... The warranty in the box says otherwise.
EtherealRemnant said:
Right now it's only with the 175 USD XTC2Clip with all the attachments including the power adapter - and as of my last look, it cannot factory lock the bootloader thanks to temporary S-OFF so it will show up as relocked which will void the warranty anyway. In other words, we are all out of luck for now.
And it remains to be seen if HTC actually lets us keep our warranty in the US... The warranty in the box says otherwise.
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175.00, S-off is not that important. Like you said a relocked bootloader voids your warranty. Why are people bothering to relock bootloader especially the OP to run the RUU, it is not needed. You do mention XTC2Clip a lot in these threads. You holding stock in the company? lol
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175.00, S-off is not that important. Like you said a relocked bootloader voids your warranty. Why are people bothering to relock bootloader especially the OP to run the RUU, it is not needed. You do mention XTC2Clip a lot in these threads. You holding stock in the company? lol
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Hell no, I have no interest in dropping another 175 bucks, I think it's ridiculous but it is currently the only way to do a number of things with the device. I'd consider it if being able to unlock and relock the phone without HTC ever having a clue was a big deal or there was a Google edition and I needed to change the CID and MID or other things but honestly, I still have my 10 if I really need to get at something that was on that phone but not on this one (for example my Battle.net authenticator). I suppose I could always try Helium though with my desktop but I imagine that's a protected app like Google Authenticator which required root to backup and why I switched to Authy.
I mentioned the XTC2Clip because it is the only way to get S-OFF of any kind right now and to point out that even with its temp S-OFF, it still can't restore the bootloader to factory locked status. It's an important thing to point out, not everyone knows that HTC has two different locked statuses, one that proves the phone has been tampered with, and one that is factory locked. A lot of people ask to go back to stock so they can send it in for a warranty claim or a refund to go buy another device. The relocked bootloader obviously kills one or both options depending on the situation.
EtherealRemnant said:
Right now it's only with the 175 USD XTC2Clip with all the attachments including the power adapter - and as of my last look, it cannot factory lock the bootloader thanks to temporary S-OFF so it will show up as relocked which will void the warranty anyway. In other words, we are all out of luck for now.
And it remains to be seen if HTC actually lets us keep our warranty in the US... The warranty in the box says otherwise.
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schmeggy929 said:
175.00, S-off is not that important. Like you said a relocked bootloader voids your warranty. Why are people bothering to relock bootloader especially the OP to run the RUU, it is not needed. You do mention XTC2Clip a lot in these threads. You holding stock in the company? lol
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Does it void warranty? I returned my bootloader relocked U11 to HTC due to a scratch on the display. Was offered a refund or exchange. I had to go the refund route to swap colours ( I went from Black to Blue). Was accepted without any fuss.
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Does it void warranty? I returned my bootloader relocked U11 to HTC due to a scratch on the display. Was offered a refund or exchange. I had to go the refund route to swap colours ( I went from Black to Blue). Was accepted without any fuss.
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Yeah, a lot of people are claiming unlocked bootloader voids warranty now, however US is more relaxed. Every single HTC phone I had was returned with Unlocked Bootloader and S-off, never had a problem. Other countries are more strict I guess. I can understand not knowing the return policy and people relock for that reason(for returns) but I see many relocking for flashing RUU or firmware. This is not needed or even should be done. I'm a RUU flasher with each update, so I know no problems arise. This has been the case for the last 8,9 or 10 phones lol.