What are the feelings on the Nexus S with ICS versus other high performing devices like GS2, RAZR, Amaze, etc.? Has anyone gone "backwards"? Do you miss the dual core?
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nexus s ftw hahaha
Friend of my got a SGS2, my Nexus S is running alot faster (with ICS) than his device..
So no way, I don't need a Dual Core device!
Sgs2 blows the nexus s out of the water.
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SgsII also has aspect of **** ass touchwiz running on the constant, which hinders it a bit. Although I'm sure the dual cores and extra power over our lovely nexus make up for that.
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Lol touchwiz on a gs2 doesn't hinder it...at all. It smokes my Nexus s 4g. I love my nexus...but gs2 w Mali beatsmy phone to death
Same my cousin has a sgs2 and its must so fast
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Lol touchwiz on a gs2 doesn't hinder it...at all. It smokes my Nexus s 4g. I love my nexus...but gs2 w Mali beatsmy phone to death
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B4 i switched to ICS i was running Miui with the trinity 1544 kernel and my NS4G would score higher than my rooted oc'd 1.6 dual core GS2.. I would get consistent 5000+ on my NS4g and my GS2 gets around 4400's
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B4 i switched to ICS i was running Miui with the trinity 1544 kernel and my NS4G would score higher than my rooted oc'd 1.6 dual core GS2.. I would get consistent 5000+ on my NS4g and my GS2 gets around 4400's
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I could care less about an io hack haha. Stock for stock my ns4g doesn't compare to a sprint gs2. Period.
I'm all too familiar w trinity. The 25 mflops. The buss speed increase. Hell i can input a command to trick quadrant into producing ridiculous numbers. I hope you don't think I am arguing w you when I say that the et4g Or gs2 on sprint is superior currently in terms of hardware and speed to almost every other android in production right now.
We purchased ours due to my wife releasing her epic 4g from an 8 foot drop to concrete. I don't care if it ever gets ics. On gb it easily surpasses my ns4g and her old epic w ease. I'm amazed it doesn't get more attention than the countless reviews pointing out all the sweet stuff it does. We have 0 Los issues and for me, until a better phone (in terms of hardware) comes out I am 100% content w it. I can't compare a modded nexus to the gs2 due to the fact that even my ns4g, at the time, running 4800 quadrants (which are meaningless due to massive io hack) still couldn't compete w its bigger more powerful counterpart. Its like comparing and Xbox to an Xbox 360
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Not sure why would anyone want to go back.
I want to upgrade to an Galaxy Nexus, but I don't see myself coming back to the NS after that. Something better in the future, definitely. But no NS once I upgrade.
I know it's not really the same but when I had my ns with ics yea it was good but traded it for a focus flash and I feel like ics can't compare to Mingo.
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So let alone the other high end Android devices like the sgs2
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I had a HTC Sensation till last week and now I use a Nexus S with ICS as daily driver.
The Sensation was really fast under CM7, but my Nexus S is smoother under ICS. I think that the ICS release for Sensation will be very fast, but I really hate Sense, and I wanted a stock ICS which is designed for my phone, not a custom ROM.
I really don't miss my Sensation !
The gs2 is so fast I can imagine what ics will do
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http://www.anandtech.com/show/4059/nexus-s-and-android-23-review-gingerbread-for-the-holidays/8
I've always tought that the hummingbird would humiliate the snapdragon with some optimisations. But it even performs worse than a sgs (running AOSP/CM)
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You have to put into account that 4G uses MySense and loads of bloated ware where the Nexus S use AOSP pure Google experience. Hell load MT4G with AOSP or CM on it, it'll blow the nexus s away.
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You have to put into account that 4G uses MySense and loads of bloated ware where the Nexus S use ASOP pure Google experience. Hell load MT4G with ASOP or CM on it, it'll blow the nexus s away.
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That and it's cheaper to boot. $449 vs $529
I think if mytouch 4G would run CM or some vanilla Froyo w/ OC, It blow away Nexus
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You have to put into account that 4G uses MySense and loads of bloated ware where the Nexus S use ASOP pure Google experience. Hell load MT4G with ASOP or CM on it, it'll blow the nexus s away.
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The MT4G already blows the Nexus S away. The benchmarks are a fairly good indicator of that.
Yeah, make sure you are reading those benchmarks right, the MT4G kills it.
I think the mt4g is faster no need for benchmarks I notice it on everyday use considering I've had the vibrant and the ns is just a rebadged galaxy s.
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Heck, I just think it's cool to own a device that performs so well compared to other high end devices. After owning a G1 for over a year, having the MT4G is a treat!
These benchmarks make my mouth water... Now ****ing xmas needs to be here so I can have my mt4g (that or the wife needs to develop a heart, I should pack up her G2 & tell her she can use our old MDA until Xmas)
The bench marks only show how incomprable the two processors are. And how unreliable benchmarks are. Dont trust neocore. The phones are so fast they cap out the built in fps limits of the phones. Interesting how the losing phone in neocore get 10 fps more running quake. Thats almost 25% more. Also interesting that quadrant cpu is right on par but linpack is still low. I have no idea why qualcom chips do so well in linpack. They obviously have a distinct advantage there. Yet hummingbirds some how do as well on froyo roms in quadrant.
I/0 scores vary wildly with galaxy s phones. Rfs always give a very low score. But there have been "lag fixes" that blow the score out of proportion well beyond anything else in quadrant. CM although buggy gets huge scores all over cept for linpack. A CM dev said the low I/O was something samsung did. It may be that the nexus s has the same problem.
Im not putting the mt4g down. Not at all. Just the benchmarks. I think the galaxy phones still have the best gpu. But if I could get a mt4g unlocked or a nexus s it would be a hard decision. ( im on ATT)
Im partial to samsung after doing repairs to my captivate and an evo. I felt that the htc was built like a toy. But as far as user experience hatch wins every time.
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The bench marks only show how incomprable the two processors are. And how unreliable benchmarks are. Dont trust neocore. The phones are so fast they cap out the built in fps limits of the phones. Interesting how the losing phone in neocore get 10 fps more running quake. Thats almost 25% more. Also interesting that quadrant cpu is right on par but linpack is still low. I have no idea why qualcom chips do so well in linpack. They obviously have a distinct advantage there. Yet hummingbirds some how do as well on froyo roms in quadrant.
I/0 scores vary wildly with galaxy s phones. Rfs always give a very low score. But there have been "lag fixes" that blow the score out of proportion well beyond anything else in quadrant. CM although buggy gets huge scores all over cept for linpack. A CM dev said the low I/O was something samsung did. It may be that the nexus s has the same problem.
Im not putting the mt4g down. Not at all. Just the benchmarks. I think the galaxy phones still have the best gpu. But if I could get a mt4g unlocked or a nexus s it would be a hard decision. ( im on ATT)
Im partial to samsung after doing repairs to my captivate and an evo. I felt that the htc was built like a toy. But as far as user experience hatch wins every time.
So you're saying those guys over at AnandTech one of the most trusted reliable source don't know what they're doing,LOL. Even while they're doing a reviews about Nexus S they were amaze at MT4G. Talk about HTC Phone bieng Like a toy,look at the Vibrant for 500.00 buck it's a joke with that kind of money i expect not to be lagging and GPS works out of the box,and don't tell me there's a fix online it's easy to fix.Like one of my MT4G user said it real well, Nexus S is just a rebadged of the
plastic Vibrant Galaxy S with gingerbread 2.3 LMAO!!!!!!!!!
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I want to see those mt4g benchmarks with gingerbread. I do agree that benchmarks should be taken with a grain of salt, but it's always nice to come out on top
Yes and they should just be glad they did not have a OC kernel with a trimmed ROM or that nexus S would have been smacked and knocked back to kindergarten.
I have been confused at why the MT4G has not challenged or even been compared to the Nexus S??? All this waiting and hype about the Nexus S and finally it comes out and (IMHO) is a disappointment. Now reading what everyone is *****ing about, No HSPA+, expandable memory, ram and not made by HTC.... Well MT4G has all those!!! Minus the SAMOLED, I think the MT4G is THE better phone. Now with some numbers to look at...Its looking sweeet! Best part is, "The 45nm Snapdragons with Adreno 205 GPUs have proven completely competent performers (and I'm not even finished testing the myTouch 4G yet)"!!!!!! Can someone please put these two in the octagon!!
This sums it all up
I got the MT4G but also want the Nexus S just because I know it will have more developer support than the MT4G , I dont care about benchmarks just user experience, lets see the people reactions when they get it
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After exchanging my original MT4G for one with a "superior" display, this phone is most certainly a force to be reckoned with. Yes, the SAMOLED display is great, but highly overrated. I remember doing a side-by-side comparison of my old Vibrant with a G2, only to find that the G2's display more than held its own next to the Vibrant. Even with its washed out display, my original MT4G outclassed the Vibrant in every aspect - the new one, with it's better display, is not even in the same league.
Since it's been established that the Nexus S is basically an aesthetically revised Galaxy S, it's safe to say that the MT4G vs. Nexus S comparisons will yield the same results as MT4G vs. Vibrant. Say what you want about benchmarks, but numbers don't usually lie (unless, of course, you're Bernie Madoff).
That's my reason for getting the nexus s too. Its the rom support and user experience. I've had this phone since almost the day it came out. Its got every feature you could want, but though it looks and feels expensive, htc has major qc issues. I've yet to see one without a blown out white screen either. If they had blessed the phone with a better display, changed the plastic below the screen a little, and made it with asop, the mt4g would be the best phone ever made.
Battery life is excellent, it's fast, and has all the latest hard ware. Just upsets me that with all the specs this thing has, they give it such a poor display. I mean you look at that every time you pick up the phone, and espresso sense themes expose that even more with all the greys and off blacks.
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Hey guys.
Hope this is the right section to post this.
I am looking for a new phone and it should be running andriod.
One of my options include Samsung Vibrant, but want to explore other phones aswell.
Can someone tell me what is currently the best android phone that is good overall? For music, videos, phone, battery, etc?
It should be able to run 2.2 android, and all the latest upgrades such as 2.3 etc.
Please let me know.
Thanks.
What carrier are you under or are you willing to switch?
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Well carrier does not really matter as I will be buying a unlocked version anyway.
Right now I am just concerned more about the phone, then the carrier.
Nexus s. Fastest and will recieve the most updates while being mega feature packed
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Nexus S right now is very expensive, what comes as best after nexus s?
My benchmark speeds on my droid x according to quadrant are just above the nexus one (1391)
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Are there any others, droid seems very big
In my honest opinion MyTouch 4G is the best android phone out right now. The Nexus S is basically a repackaged Galaxy S. The MT4G spanks most phones out there in most benchmarks-look it up.
I keep mine overclocked to 1.8Ghz (ondemand) all day, get amazing battery life, and pull between 2500 and 3000 in quadrant on first run.
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Nexus s. Fastest...
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Yeah, take a look at some benchmarks, not even close to being the fastest. The Nexus S lost to the MT4G in a bunch of categories, as well as a bunch of other devices. Just because a device is newer and everyone is talking about it does not mean it is better or faster. Hell, the MT4G beat it in a dogfight by Phonedog (of course that is mostly based on opinion though).
Why don't you provide details as to you limits (price, size and carrier) and then we'll be better able to help you make a decision.
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Couldn't tell you what's 'best,' but if you are willing to go with AT&T, you can get a swinging deal on the Captivate now through Target Mobile (http://www.targetmobilestore.com/mobile/?referringdomain=bullseyemobilesolutions). I upgraded my wife's ancient RAZR to the Samsung device for $69 and only had to add a $15 data plan to her current setup and a 2-year reup. That's a helluva phone for the money.
nexus S should be the best phone! Most Dev´s should be there!
Motorola Droid 2 Global is the best. CPU with highest clock in all android phones there are. yet.
w8 for lg optimus 2x first phone with dual core and ships with 2.2 opr 2.3 i think
G2 baby! Woopwoopwoop
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Benchmarks do not mean ****. ask ANY dev. theyre all hacked or ****ed up. I personally think for cdma, the epic. for gsm, the nexus s.
Using the stock browser.. i'm getting about 4600ish results..
Using Dolphin Mini i've hit a crazy 39XX score... this is the fastest stock Android phone i've ever seen/researched. The only other phone that gets CLOSE to these scores is the MyTouch 4G.
My previous Fascinate on a custom kernel at 1ghz set to performance mode (forcing to 1ghz fulltime) is only scoring 59XX..
i bet an overclocked Hummingbird at 1.3ghz still can't touch the stock Thunderbolt.
This is amazing!
Thoughts?
I hate to burst your bubble but I just ran a 4123ms Sunspider on my Nexus S running cm7 on 1Ghz stock kernel. I'm considering switching to Verizon though for the Thunderbolt. I'm particularly interested in how the screen is, and mainly the black levels.
Edit: just ran at 1.4Ghz for comparison purposes at got a 3154. The Glacier overclocks very well so the Thunderbolt should be able to put up some good numbers as well.
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I hate to burst your bubble but I just ran a 4123ms Sunspider on my Nexus S running cm7 on 1Ghz stock kernel. I'm considering switching to Verizon though for the Thunderbolt. I'm particularly interested in how the screen is, and mainly the black levels.
Edit: just ran at 1.4Ghz for comparison purposes at got a 3154. The Glacier overclocks very well so the Thunderbolt should be able to put up some good numbers as well.
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Using the stock browser on the Nexus S I got a 4011 and at 1.3ghz, 3213.
your ditching Nexus S aswell i see?
i just sold miens yesterday for 340% waiting to be added on to my sisters plan on verizon i will definetly miss 3 things on the Nexus S the SAMOLED screen of course and the Voo Doo Sound/TV APPs all 3 of those feautres where amazing
i ditched tmobile today and the nexus S. I couldnt be happier to b honest with you
Iphone is old and boring. I have a dell streak right now per screen size but specs just seam to be out dated. My Father just whipped my azz with his Thunderbolt but come on that cant be the best out right now? I want the best of the best without sacrifice! Im tired of hearing well it depends on whats most important to you. I mean its 2011 everything is most important to me and I want it all without sacrificing anything plus having nothing but the best! I want something that will smash the Thunderbolts face in the dirt. And please do not say Atrix because I want something that isnt going to take forever to mod or be darn near impossible to.
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I mean as of RIGHT NOW I think the Thunderbolt is the best (largely due to LTE), but I may also be biased. Give it a couple months
I got the inspire 4g (desire HD, ace, whatever else it's called) its rooted, flashed with cm nightly build 57 and lord modz latest kernel. 3200 average on the quadrant score and no game(app or emulator) has slowed me down yet. Can oc to almost 2ghz CPU. Im comfortable with it.
samsung galaxy s2
Thunderbolt I can get 1.9ghz easily with 4g LTE my phone is faster than my home internet getting up to 17 mb
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If you want the best of the best, you should surely be looking at some dualcores like Samsung Galaxy S2 (soon), or the LG Optimus 2x (G2X or whatever..)
Depending on your area, it might we worth checking out the Motorola Bionic when it comes out
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If you want the best of the best, you should surely be looking at some dualcores like Samsung Galaxy S2 (soon), or the LG Optimus 2x (G2X or whatever..)
Depending on your area, it might we worth checking out the Motorola Bionic when it comes out
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Agree with Galaxy S2, the G2X is the T-mobile name for Optimus 3d, it's not the Optimus 2x.
But the G2x (3d) has only 512mb ram, other than that it's excellent. Galaxy S2 has a decent in graphics, but amazing in normal cpu power, it should be the best 3rd generation (high powered) android phone.
Thunderbolt seams to be smoking everything atm but I am interested to see what comes out!
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I was wondering if anyone knew of the latest or best phone that has the greatest ROM rooting following at the moment greater than the Galaxy Nexus?
I have a Galaxy Nexus right now and its great but I am just bored with it. I would like to upgrade. The only problem is that I use [GNEX TOOLKIT V11.1.0] Drivers, Backup, Unlock, Root, Recovery, Flash + MORE [SPRINT] which is the best tool around.
I was wondering if there are tools like this or better for other newer phones that I may upgrade to or should I just stay with my Nexus for while?
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Please ask that question in this thread or in this thread.
My buddy got one, he loves it. Had to put it through it's paces. Some good news, most Senseless roms outperform the Galaxy Nexus is day to day operations. Don't get me wrong, my ARHD + AOSP V41 theme (Basically a slightly updated VI4.0.1) only opened applications .5 seconds to 1 second faster, but my point is that it is indeed faster.
Very good to know when it comes to phone shopping. I'm not gonna say the GNex lags like crazy and it's sooooo slowwwww but you get the gist. He does, however, have CRT-off .
Still, very cool.
So you're comparing a highly tweaked kernel and rom against a stock rom? It doesn't work that way lol...
I seriously doubt that the sensation will outperform the galaxy nexus as it doesn't even outperform the galaxy s2...
PS.: I have both sensation and sgs2 and as much as I love the sensation, it can never achieve the smoothness and speed of a tweaked sgs 2 rom... (cm7 vs cm7 and cm9 vs cm9)
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So you're comparing a highly tweaked kernel and rom against a stock rom? It doesn't work that way lol...
I seriously doubt that the sensation will outperform the galaxy nexus as it doesn't even outperform the galaxy s2...
PS.: I have both sensation and sgs2 and as much as I love the sensation, it can never achieve the smoothness and speed of a tweaked sgs 2 rom... (cm7 vs cm7 and cm9 vs cm9)
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ARHD is stock kernel unless you choose otherwise, I did not choose otherwise. All I'm saying is that a Sense rom with most Sense removed was slightly faster than my buddies GNex, which also had a custom rom.
You can't assume his is stock and you can't assume I have this special, magical kernel.
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ARHD is stock kernel unless you choose otherwise, I did not choose otherwise. All I'm saying is that a Sense rom with most Sense removed was slightly faster than my buddies GNex, which also had a custom rom.
You can't assume his is stock and you can't assume I have this special, magical kernel.
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Ok, shame on me, I jumped to conclusions
I have international version of GSM Galaxy Nexus updated and running latest ICS 4.0.4 and I can definitely see a lag compared to Sensation (which now belongs to my wife) running AOSP ROM and 1.5 Ghz kernel. Heck, even kids Vibrants running either ICS or 2.2 ROMs are silky smooth compared to Galaxy Nexus.
Now Galaxy Nexus pushes significantly more pixels than either Sensation and especially Vibrant but I thought better GPU, A9 CPU and original Google ROM will more than make up for it but it is not the case. Nexus however is much better in battery and overall to me feels like a much more solid phone. I am in minority here but like plastic more than slippery HTC aluminium and display is better anyway, so happy with it so far.
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I want this "magical kernel"
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