My dad (a fellow geek) saw that I was struggling with my Infuse because it has little official support from the big-name teams. Basically, we found that if I wanted to use MIUI or CM7, I would have to use a port that didn't really work that well, and I'm looking for the best MIUI experience possible.
He came home today and surprised me with a Skyrocket, but the more we read, the more we found out that this isn't a widely-supported phone either.
With that said, I live in a big city, so I'll probably get LTE eventually. Should I stick with this phone and hope that the MIUI team picks up the Skyrocket, or should I go trade it in for an AT&T SGS2?
The sgs2 has a huge development community but the skyrocket is a far better device especially with Lte. I decided to stay with the skyrocket and have noticed that we are picking up some steam it prob will never be as big as the sgs2 but i think it will be more than enough to satisfy any user
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This phone has quickly gained developer support. Its still very new. And our dev community will only continue to grow. Theres alot of development going on check out the dev section. And dont worry we wil get ics. And we have a great bunch of guys on our forum that help eachother out. With out bad attitudes. Be happy you have the best device available in this country.
Also I think I know of somebody that might be working on a MIUI port for out lovely skyrocket, and he's no joke either. The skyrocket is gaining momentum quickly. I would not be worried. The device is still young. And its basically replaced the OG S2 on att. Your pops is a smart man.
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Worry not fellow SGSII owner (I have the sprint flavored one). There's a bunch of reasons why development on this phone is going to, pun squarely intended, Skyrocket. Here's a couple:
1. the SGS II is THE best phone out period. If they'd given the Galaxy Nexus an Exynos processor, I couldn't say that but the Sprint, At&T and international SGS II have the Exynos which means our phones are the best hardware wise. Developers like sexy hardware. Don't need 8 mods to make it lag free, it's already lag free, so they can just have fun with it.
2. This particular SGS II is GSM, which is exactly like the international SGS II sans LTE. This means that porting stuff from their phone to this phone is going to be much more simple than, say, porting it to the Sprint one (which is cdma). You'll start seeing ports to this phone from the international version very soon.
So GSM + great hardware = good development eventually. It's very new though so be patient. The Epic Touch has been out two months and our development forums have just started to kick and show some promising work, so don't get discouraged!
I've never been impressed with either MIUI or CM7, personally. That is just my opinion and I have used them both.
I think this device has devs pushing forward on ROMs that aren't MIUI and CM7 maybe give them a shot you might be surprised.
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Worry not fellow SGSII owner (I have the sprint flavored one). There's a bunch of reasons why development on this phone is going to, pun squarely intended, Skyrocket. Here's a couple:
1. the SGS II is THE best phone out period. If they'd given the Galaxy Nexus an Exynos processor, I couldn't say that but the Sprint, At&T and international SGS II have the Exynos which means our phones are the best hardware wise. Developers like sexy hardware. Don't need 8 mods to make it lag free, it's already lag free, so they can just have fun with it.
2. This particular SGS II is GSM, which is exactly like the international SGS II sans LTE. This means that porting stuff from their phone to this phone is going to be much more simple than, say, porting it to the Sprint one (which is cdma). You'll start seeing ports to this phone from the international version very soon.
So GSM + great hardware = good development eventually. It's very new though so be patient. The Epic Touch has been out two months and our development forums have just started to kick and show some promising work, so don't get discouraged!
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The phone he is referring to (skyrocket) does not have the exynos
Snapdragon.
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Yes clocked at 1.5 ghz. But still a great phone. I love it. Much more then the og gs2 i had for a month
There's also an international version of this phone too, right (SGS2 LTE)? It came out half a year or so after the OGSGS2.
So, maybe developer support will come pick up steam after a few more months?
Thats the hd lte your talking about. Its different but japan just got a skyrocket
Cool, you guys have convinced me to stick with this one! Thanks for all the responses.
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Yes clocked at 1.5 ghz. But still a great phone. I love it. Much more then the og gs2 i had for a month
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Why do you like this so much more than the OG GS2?
Becaude of the people on our forum, i cant stress enough to have a forum with people who want to help and add to the betterment of our device. Also the 4.5 inch display, and lte ive got over 60mbps download. My comcast highspeed cable internet is only 18.
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Oh yeah and the confirmation of our icecream sandwich update from at&t
It is nice to have a forum full of active folks. Even if there aren't as many as some of the most popular phones, a dedicated community can usually draw the attention of some of the bigger dev groups.
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It is nice to have a forum full of active folks. Even if there aren't as many as some of the most popular phones, a dedicated community can usually draw the attention of some of the bigger dev groups.
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thats the plan.....
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We have 2 great devs on the horizon. And it will only get better.
Can't wait for this monster to take off!!!!
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If you haven't noticed, we're getting devs at a nice rate.
Honestly, it's good as it is, because I don't want quanities of ROM's, I want quality ROM's.
That being said, with slayher working on CM9, and our device being literally identical to the T-Mobile SGS II except for the LTE radio (which adding our personal radio fixes), we shant not worry.
Plus, we have 2 devs on the horizon, and we have dev rotation, so devs will be getting our device soon.
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Thats the hd lte your talking about. Its different but japan just got a skyrocket
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http://www.engadget.com/2011/09/26/samsung-announces-galaxy-s-ii-lte-and-galaxy-s-ii-hd-lte-handset/
There should be 2: an HD LTE and regular LTE. It would've been nice if ATT skipped the regular LTE version and gave us the HD LTE instead.
Oh well, it's all good. I'm still really enjoying my Skyrocket.
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http://www.engadget.com/2011/09/26/samsung-announces-galaxy-s-ii-lte-and-galaxy-s-ii-hd-lte-handset/
There should be 2: an HD LTE and regular LTE. It would've been nice if ATT skipped the regular LTE version and gave us the HD LTE instead.
Oh well, it's all good. I'm still really enjoying my Skyrocket.
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If AT&T had done that...
1. Murder GNexus sales.
2. Make all the AT&T SGS II guys hop, it has the new Exynos 4212 SoC.
3. Get amazingly huge development.
I've been debating on upgrading to the Skyrocket from my HTC Inspire. One of the things holding me back is this topic. I'm sure there are some great devs working on the Skyrocket, I just don't know any of them. Who are the two you all mentioned on the horizon?
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I was going to upgrade to a SGSII until I just heard these two are coming out in the next couple weeks.
Issue with SGSII is now the user base and Devs will be split between these two devices. Add to that, it's still unclear if the phone will be on Exynos or Snapdragon - which could affect the Rom base.
The Vivid however looks like a really nice phone as well. Just unsure how many Devs will be jumping on that. Add to that it's a qHD screen (although probably not close to the SAMOLED+ in terms of colors and blacks).
Decisions...
But 4.5inch on a 800x480 doesn't seem to great. The qHD is quite better for a 4.5inch.
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I was going to upgrade to a SGSII until I just heard these two are coming out in the next couple weeks.
Issue with SGSII is now the user base and Devs will be split between these two devices. Add to that, it's still unclear if the phone will be on Exynos or Snapdragon - which could affect the Rom base.
The Vivid however looks like a really nice phone as well. Just unsure how many Devs will be jumping on that. Add to that it's a qHD screen (although probably not close to the SAMOLED+ in terms of colors and blacks).
Decisions...
But 4.5inch on a 800x480 doesn't seem to great. The qHD is quite better for a 4.5inch.
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The GS2LTE is a 1.2GHz clocked CPU; therefore, it is an Exynos and not the 1.5GHz Snapdragon present in the TMobile version.
The Vivid, being the only AT&T HTC device (and since it's a newer HTC device, hopefully stock unlocked bootloaders), should have a decent following both in general userbase and in development. I get the feeling that the only reason why people gravitated to the Captivate is due to the fact that it was AT&T's only reasonable Android device at the time.
I've just been so frustrated with Samsung's stock experience on the Captivate and all the problems that this phone has been giving me, unlike my friend's rooted and near-stock Inspire 4G, that I will never consider buying a Samsung Android device again. I don't care how good it looks on paper; the Captivate did not really work in practice until developers got their hands dirty and fixed it for the rest of us.
HTC.......
the SGS2 is great, but HTC always gets the latest and greatest and the most dev support....
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I was going to upgrade to a SGSII until I just heard these two are coming out in the next couple weeks.
Issue with SGSII is now the user base and Devs will be split between these two devices. Add to that, it's still unclear if the phone will be on Exynos or Snapdragon - which could affect the Rom base.
The Vivid however looks like a really nice phone as well. Just unsure how many Devs will be jumping on that. Add to that it's a qHD screen (although probably not close to the SAMOLED+ in terms of colors and blacks).
Decisions...
But 4.5inch on a 800x480 doesn't seem to great. The qHD is quite better for a 4.5inch.
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As much as I'm getting frustrated with my Cappy, I think I'm going to wait it out and see what other XDA members say about both of them before buying. Also, I want to see something official from the manufacturers and ATT on whether or not these are getting ICS.
I don't know about this (just thinking out loud here), but could the resolutions change after an ICS update? If it's possible, it would be worth waiting to see what happens after (if) they get an ICS update.
I really want to trust the specs from Samsung but after the GPS issues, the reboot issues, the poor camera quality, the lack of release updates (be it ATT or Samsung) - it's going to be tough to woo me back to another Samsung phone. I know I have a 1GHz phone with good hardware in my hands but my senses always feel like my wife's Nexus1 runs smoother and better on older hardware.
If Samsung (and all phone manufacturers for this matter) actually cared about the customer there would be one form factor across all wireless providers to help encourage innovative accessories and to help reduce the cost of accessories for the customer. Ok, now I'm ranting on a tangent. Time to stop.
The SGS2 i777 already has a good Dev base and continuing to grow already. The sgs2 i777 has in common with the i9100 as we that have/had cappys should know the i897 cappy and i9000 were like sisters and is HOW we had so much Dev support. Most the devs that I have seen already are stating that they are staying with the i777 and NOT moving to the i727 skyrocket.
There are already a few post over in the ATT SGS2 General forums debating this so you can catch up on it beforehand.
Basically it is an ALMOST FOR SURE thing that it is NOT the 1.5Ghz Exerynos chip in it since Samsung stated that ONLY test chips were ready by the end of this year and should make it into phones by the middle of 2012.
The screen is .2" larger but with the SAME 800x480 resolution.
It is Lte which is the ONLY GOOD THING I see in it unless you live in an Lte area now and don't stray out.of that area. The Lte coverage will ONLY BE 12 markets by the end.of the year and will take a few years to spread it out better.
Back to the Dev support, if you look into the tmobile section of xda you will see how slow the Dev support is there and how they have like 1 base kernel that is not tweaked much at all. The Dev base is not too good compared to the Dev base of the i777.
The reason I mention the T-Mobile version is it sounds like MOSTLY it is the same phone with the same chipsets just with a different Lte radio.
I came from/still have 2 of 3 of my cappys, went to the sgs2 i777 on Oct. 4th and Lte will be in my area by the end of the year. I am within the timeframe to return the sgs2 now but wont be doing it due to the Dev base and the similarities with it and the i9100. Which as we know the i9000 got all the updates and goodies which were pretty easily ported over to out captivates since they were similiar. The SAME is/will be true with the i777 and i9100. The i727 doesn't have a sister unbranded phone to port from so will likely be at the mercy of ATT for future software updates. The i777 should get ICS shortly after the i9100 well before att decides to give us ICS on either phone. So to make a long story short I am choosing because.of the Dev support and compatibility of phones already out there. The i727 will be a 1fer phone, one of a kind for the most part. Not wanting to start a i777/i727 flaming war here as each person will have their own ideas about it. That is how.it has already turned into in most of the post about this subject over there. Just giving my thoughts and feelings here.
Plus I have always qualified for an upgrade.on my line every 12 months as I did this time. So 12 months.from now Lte may be in a better spotlight with coverage, the sgs3 should be making its way by that time. The i777 sgs2 kicks ass for sure and I have not had any of the little learning issues/bad flashes/ test software as when I started out with my cappy last year in July. It just works without any of the hiccups. We had actual roms on LAUNCH DAY due to being SO CLOSE to the i9100...
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I guess it's true and I thought this before. If going for a SGSII, no point not getting the original - especially since soon ports of the International SGSII will be coming around and the Skyrocket might have different HW.
But the HTC is tempting as they usually make really nice phones - and there might be a good amount of Devs and people in general jumping on it after the Inspire.
Looks like the SGS2LTE has the Exynos 4212 just from comparing hardware specs. The 1.2Ghz version in the regular SGS2 the Exynos 4210. Throw "Exynos 4212" into google search and you'll see some impressive specs. It is supposed to have 30% better power use and 5 times more powerful graphics performance. I'm not an expert, but this is just what I think is under the hood.
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Looks like the SGS2LTE has the Exynos 4212 just from comparing hardware specs. The 1.2Ghz version in the regular SGS2 the Exynos 4210. Throw "Exynos 4212" into google search and you'll see some impressive specs. It is supposed to have 30% better power use and 5 times more powerful graphics performance. I'm not an expert, but this is just what I think is under the hood.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1319484
Read on the Rogers version Qualcomm
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Posted by Mr.Junky on other post. http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=4124&idPhone2=4130
Only issue I see is that it list the OG SGS2 as still having the FM radio and the pic of the Ltd version is of a i9100 or something with the physical home button.
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Once the chipset is officially confirmed exyons vs qualcomm that will be the deciding factor in ROM porting. If the skyrocket has the qualcomm chip, there will be no i9100 ports. The only chance of ports will be the TMo version, which should have very little likelyhood of being any better than the ATT version.
There is a lot of circumstancial evidence pointing to the qualcomm chip, check out the several large threads in the i777 Galaxy S II forum. Most devs chimed in and have said the i777 will be the only us version capable of getting ROM ports from the I9100, because they are so close.
There is no proof yet the Vivid will have an unlocked bootloader when shipped.
If you enjoy flashing ROMs, or want the most selection in ROMs, the i777 OG GS II will likely be your best bet.
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Can't decide if I should get SG2 skyrocket or HTC vivid.
I am returning my AT&T SG2 tomorrow.
vl221 said:
Can't decide if I should get SG2 skyrocket or HTC vivid.
I am returning my AT&T SG2 tomorrow.
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Ah, first world troubles. I seriously doubt either phone will disappoint in any showstopping way, with or without a substantial amount of developer support.
Currently I have a Galaxy S II Epic 4g touch on sprint. I will be leaving sprint for multiple reason and going to AT&T to get the HTC Vivid. In my opinion samsung makes better phones but HTC gives you a much better user experience. Here are some pro's and cons of samsung and htc (my opinions are based on my current phone the gs2 and my previous phone the evo)
Samsung beats HTC at:
Screen is better
Camera is better
CPU is faster
Sound on speaker is louder and more clear
HTC beats Samsung at:
Way better widgets
Screen is more sensitive
GPS actually works (gps on samsung phones are always pure failure)
Higher quality plastic
please dont get mad if you disagree this is just my opinion. I will be getting the white vivid and will never get a non htc phone again.
The normal SGS II is better than the Skyrocket. FYI.
The one real downer to the SGS II LTE that would probably stop me from getting it is the resolution is 480 x 800 pixels @ 4.5 inches = 207ppi pixel density?? REALLY?! I think the G1 had better than that
So the HTC vivid and the SGS2 Lte both have worse processors that the OG SGS2? One with 1.2 snapdragon and the other with 1.5 qualcomm?
http://www.theverge.com/2011/11/3/2535251/samsung-galaxy-s-ii-skyrocket-pictures-hands-on-att-lte
Glad I am sticking with the OG SGS2
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Only downside now w/ the Vivid, is that it is plastic and not the usual aluminum unibody construction. One of the things that always separated HTC from Samsung IMO
Noob question: I don't know much about the new phones coming out but wouldn't the new nexus that's coming out be a greater or just as good choice. Just wondering because I always thought the nexus s had the most dev support and updates since it was a google phone.
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mossination said:
Noob question: I don't know much about the new phones coming out but wouldn't the new nexus that's coming out be a greater or just as good choice. Just wondering because I always thought the nexus s had the most dev support and updates since it was a google phone.
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It will, but not everyone is willing to fork over money off-contract; I've heard that they're changing it to allow multiple carriers to subsidize, but still. I am passionately avoiding Samsung devices from now on.
I thought Nexus is exclusive to Verizon in the US. Not much help for the ATT, Tmobile and Spring folks.
Aus_Azn said:
It will, but not everyone is willing to fork over money off-contract; I've heard that they're changing it to allow multiple carriers to subsidize, but still. I am passionately avoiding Samsung devices from now on.
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What is wrong with Samsung? I have a SG2 but debating if I should get the Vivid or the Skyrocket.
Specs wise it seems like the skyrocket got the Vivid beat.
Ok .. so right now I have a Motorola Atrix 2 on AT&T, and quite frankly, I am NOT impressed with this phone at all .. the fact that Motorola did not learn from its mistakes from the Motorola Atrix 4G in regards to the memory issues is just pure stupidity.
I'm torn between the 2 new phones that were just released to AT&T .. the HTC Vivid and the Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket. Now, I have hammered theweb reading reviews about the 2 phones .. I have gone into the AT&T Store and played with both .. but for unknown reasons, I cannot make up my mind as to which one to get.
I obtained the Atrix 2 from BestBuy in the beginning of November, so I'm currently in the 30 days return policy .. so:
I'm posting this poll to see what other readers suggest as to what would be the best to get next .. please vote, let me know .. and if any questions or comments about the phones .. please post .. the more feedback, the better.
Thank you.
skyrocket, no question about it.
I would have to go with the Skyrocket i've used a raider and well... it feels like ever other HTC phone on the market... they really don't differentiate their products well. The Skyrocket, well it's a Galaxy S II so it has those in common but even though it uses a Qualcomm it's still quite a decent.
I've tried the Raider, The Razar and the SIILTE against each other once or twice already at a store and well the SIILTE beats both of them.
In all I would recommend the SIILTE, Samsung makes good products and are quite speedy in updating their products, HTC well you will get "Well your device can't support sense 4.0 "But it's on your budget device" "so..."
PERFECT .. please keep the responses coming
Well would you be willing to wait for option 3.
Get a Galaxy Nexus you'll be able to get one next week when they are released you can import one since they already come unlocked. Or they will be released on AT&T pretty soon
Dark lord me said:
Well would you be willing to wait for option 3.
Get a Galaxy Nexus you'll be able to get one next week when they are released you can import one since they already come unlocked. Or they will be released on AT&T pretty soon
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He's exchanging phones.
Not favoring Android at all right now, but out of the two definitely Skyrocket.
wow easy!
Honestly there is no question or even a contest between the both.
SKYROCKET ALL THE WAY BUD!
CHEERS
As they are saying skyrocket all the way..
I'd have to go with Samsung, gorgeous phone, and definitely a beast.
Skyrocket, Samsung makes the best phones these times
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Thank you Thank you ... This is really helping.
Illicit Hero said:
He's exchanging phones.
Not favoring Android at all right now, but out of the two definitely Skyrocket.
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@Illicit Hero: Why aren't you favoring Android at this time ?
Definitely Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket, the specification itself is better than HTC Vivid.
Goto GSMarena and do a comparison of these 2 phone.
Out of all previous poster prolly only couple actually own the Skyrocket. I was about to buy it but I've changed my mind inside ATT's store after playing almost an hour with both. Any sgs2 user will say "Sammy's the best" and indeed it is, but the Skyrocket has a different CPU and I actually could see the difference. Didn't like the wvga on its 4.5" screen, for some reason the screen on sgs2 looks so much better. If you don't care for 4.5" go with sgs2, otherwise I would go back to the store and play a little more.
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galaxy is my choice..its very reliable phone.......
AT&T Galaxy S II i777.
Why? Dev support on that from stemming from i9100 which the Skyrocket is not 'compatible' with.
between the 2 it's an easy choice LOL
just look at the development for each of those phones to help you decide
S II Skyrocket, Skyrocket, Skyrocket, Skyrocket, Skyrocket....
Skyrocket is the way to go mate
Samsung Galaxy S2 is the best phone on the market.
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skyrocket, no question about it.
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if you can't live without SENSE than htc vivid.. otherwise skyrocket...
No confusion at all
So here we are approaching the 30 day window for returns with ATT.
I previously had a ATT Galaxy 2 and returned it for the SkyRocket because I am in an LTE area. Well I love the LTE Speeds but I have some negatives with the SR and would like some input not flames.
Concerns:
1. Processor is not as fast as the Exynos and the benchmarks support the statement. As a result video's can get choppy.
2. Kernel Development is limited and moving slow.
3. ROM Development is limited and moving slow.
I could live with issue 1 since I think with development 2 and 3 will be resolved.
I am not taking potshots at the development members. I personally have made donations to several members in hopes of stimulating the development and I appreciate all that has been done but it's not moving very well. Each and every ROM has issues whether its MMS or LTE Support or SoD on the kernel development.
So do I stay or go? What are your thoughts are you staying or going?
Does anyone see any solid development on the horizon?
Overall I believe the device is not being adopted a a high enough rate and this is definitely caused by Samsung segmenting the market by morphing this device to each and every carrier. Which has hindered the development efforts for each of these mutated devices.
Thanks for your thoughts.
Earthsdog said:
So here we are approaching the 30 day window for returns with ATT.
I previously had a ATT Galaxy 2 and returned it for the SkyRocket because I am in an LTE area. Well I love the LTE Speeds but I have some negatives with the SR and would like some input not flames.
Concerns:
1. Processor is not as fast as the Exynos and the benchmarks support the statement. As a result video's can get choppy.
2. Kernel Development is limited and moving slow.
3. ROM Development is limited and moving slow.
I could live with issue 1 since I think with development 2 and 3 will be resolved.
I am not taking potshots at the development members. I personally have made donations to several members in hopes of stimulating the development and I appreciate all that has been done but it's not moving very well. Each and every ROM has issues whether its MMS or LTE Support or SoD on the kernel development.
So do I stay or go? What are your thoughts are you staying or going?
Does anyone see any solid development on the horizon?
Overall I believe the device is not being adopted a a high enough rate and this is definitely caused by Samsung segmenting the market by morphing this device to each and every carrier. Which has hindered the development efforts for each of these mutated devices.
Thanks for your thoughts.
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The sprint and at&t og sgs2 are the most similiar to the International one.
The ****rocket and tmo sgs2 are the mutated ones.
I was planning to get a ****rocket, but after reading about the LTE throttling, bad ppi, and snapdragon chipset, I decided to sell my og SGSII and go with the Note.
Lets just say, once you use the note, you will not be able to use small phones anymore.
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The sprint and at&t og sgs2 are the most similiar to the International one.
The ****rocket and tmo sgs2 are the mutated ones.
I was planning to get a ****rocket, but after reading about the LTE throttling, bad ppi, and snapdragon chipset, I decided to sell my og SGSII and go with the Note.
Lets just say, once you use the note, you will not be able to use small phones anymore.
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i would agree, but the note is not LTE ready if you buy it overseas so you can keep it. once it hits the US with LTE i will buy it and will not look back.
for now i am very happy with the rocket, i dont notice this lag in videos or ****rocket talk. i had the sgs2 for a week and was not blown away buy any means in the comparison. do what you will - ITS YOUR phone and you have to live with it. i plan on upgrading to either the nexus if it hits or the Note once it hits anyway so the rocket is just a short stop for 4 months or so till one of thoes drops anyway.
Quadcores are just around the corner. Its pointless upgrading to a dual core. I will gladly keep my skyrocket until i pick up my quadcore sammy device. 4 cores mabye 2 gigs ram and a big super amoled with lte is what im waiting for
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Quadcores are just around the corner. Its pointless upgrading to a dual core. I will gladly keep my skyrocket until i pick up my quadcore sammy device. 4 cores mabye 2 gigs ram and a big super amoled with lte is what im waiting for
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+1.............
Only time will tell as far as the development goes. I don't have a skyrocket cause no lte for me. Also now reading about the throttling going on I'm not sure if I care about lte anymore. Now another question for all you lte guys is who is going to return the skyrocket for the lg nitro hd lte coming out in about a week.
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Only time will tell as far as the development goes. I don't have a skyrocket cause no lte for me. Also now reading about the throttling going on I'm not sure if I care about lte anymore. Now another question for all you lte guys is who is going to return the skyrocket for the lg nitro hd lte coming out in about a week.
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if its not samsung, im not switching<<<
and it seems ilke it has the same specs as the skyrocket less the screen.
Earthsdog said:
So here we are approaching the 30 day window for returns with ATT.
I previously had a ATT Galaxy 2 and returned it for the SkyRocket because I am in an LTE area. Well I love the LTE Speeds but I have some negatives with the SR and would like some input not flames.
Concerns:
1. Processor is not as fast as the Exynos and the benchmarks support the statement. As a result video's can get choppy.
2. Kernel Development is limited and moving slow.
3. ROM Development is limited and moving slow.
I could live with issue 1 since I think with development 2 and 3 will be resolved.
I am not taking potshots at the development members. I personally have made donations to several members in hopes of stimulating the development and I appreciate all that has been done but it's not moving very well. Each and every ROM has issues whether its MMS or LTE Support or SoD on the kernel development.
So do I stay or go? What are your thoughts are you staying or going?
Does anyone see any solid development on the horizon?
Overall I believe the device is not being adopted a a high enough rate and this is definitely caused by Samsung segmenting the market by morphing this device to each and every carrier. Which has hindered the development efforts for each of these mutated devices.
Thanks for your thoughts.
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My quad score on here (stock) is way better than my infuse. Idc about lte. My phone is always connected to wifi so its whatever. Phones take awhile to get custom roms. Give it some time to settle
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if its not samsung, im not switching<<<
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+100...... ive owned htc hero. Htc evo shift.htc evo. Lg g2x. Htc mytouch 4g. Sammy epic. Sammy epic 4g touch. Sammy sgs2. Sammy sgs2 skyrockrt. Sammy moment.. Moto atrix. Kyocera echo.. and definately sammy is much better then moto or htc or lg or kyocera.
Returned my Skyrocket, ordered the Galaxy Nexus and not looking back...
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Returned my Skyrocket, ordered the Galaxy Nexus and not looking back...
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ordered from at&t?
is it available for at&t?
Only thing I don't like is the Nexus has no expandable storage.
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Returned my Skyrocket, ordered the Galaxy Nexus and not looking back...
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Nexus Prime or Original Nexus? If not prime then I see it as a downgrade instead of an upgrade.
Note is on my radar and that is one of the reason why I switched to blood sucking AT&T from Tmobile....... just so that I can use International phones.
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ordered from at&t?
is it available for at&t?
Only thing I don't like is the Nexus has no expandable storage.
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The "Galaxy Nexus".
Not the Nexus One or the Nexus S. I ordered it from Expansys-usa should be here sometime this week. Nexus Prime was just a name they used when the phone was being developed. Cost me $729.99 with a -$20 coupon code for the site. The no SD card thing kinda bummed me out and thats originally why I bought the SR over it but after using google music during beta and now that its out and free. I have realized that 16gb will be enough storage for me since I can stream all of my music through google music. The SR was nice but I really want that stock android experience and not to have to wait for updates from AT&T or samsung. I got burnt out on waiting when using the Infuse. How many times did AT&T promise Gingerbread for the infuse...
If anyone wants the coupon code for Expansys usa its: 20OFFLS
Skyrocket is a nice device and we'll start seeing roms for it soon. Just give it a month or so.
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Skyrocket is a nice device and we'll start seeing roms for it soon. Just give it a month or so.
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I think so too, if all I was worried about was ROMs I would of kept my Nexus S but I love the LTE speeds......
I can wait,
Yeah LTE speeds are nice. But where I live there is no LTE. So The Galaxy Nexus was the right choice for me. Don't get me wrong the SR was a very nice device but I think i'm gonna like my Nexus better.
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i would agree, but the note is not LTE ready if you buy it overseas so you can keep it. once it hits the US with LTE i will buy it and will not look back.
for now i am very happy with the rocket, i dont notice this lag in videos or ****rocket talk. i had the sgs2 for a week and was not blown away buy any means in the comparison. do what you will - ITS YOUR phone and you have to live with it. i plan on upgrading to either the nexus if it hits or the Note once it hits anyway so the rocket is just a short stop for 4 months or so till one of thoes drops anyway.
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Exactly..I tried the SGS2 orig because of this Exynos talk..well it was slower than the Skyrocket. In terms of ROM, I have it working complete with 14 toggle mod, camera hack to use power button to click, 3200-3500+ quadrant (if it means anything really) without any special kernels no overclocking etc, no random reboots, no locks to freeze and take out battery etc., NO! SODs, no video lags (whatever folks talk of..have downloaded many videos and play them directly), no MMS issue at all !...Vis Voicemail etc all work..even modified the dialer so that have the Tmob type dialer with extra button for voicemail along side the button for the phone on one side and the messaging button on the other side.
only miss in-dialer video chat (3G direct..not talking of Google talk) that is there in I9000 (orig SGS not SGS2) ROMs and the Infuse (modified dialer there too for direct video chat)..the ROM for the Sky and the T989 do not support this (maybe trying to move folks to Google Talk..do not need that)..neither does the orig
SGS2 anyway
Even have a TMob rom set up for this device with all the above except Vis Vmail..even fixed in-call volume using I727 library files..
wonder what folks are complaining about..do not care 4G LTE all that stuff..it is fast no matter what..
however .lost 70$ because of this Exynos nonsense (in my opinion)..35 restocking fee to return and 35 to change from Sky to org SGS2 back to Sky..my loss the hard way.
I am not sure why everyone is freaking out on throttling. The SR is a nice device and I have seen no problems with the chipset other than some graphics like the default homescreen image and the boot image being slower than normal. This is no different than when new GPUs come out and all the benchmark apps and drivers have to be updated/optimized for the new hardware. Throttling only comes into play IF you are on an UNLIMITED data plan and you hit the top 5% of all other users on an unlimited data plan. For me around here, the throttling SMS came in last month at at about 6.5GB of usage but I never was throttled after using about another 1GB.
The SR is a nice device that I plan on sticking with until the quads hit.
My only complaint with Samsung in general is their damn bootloader code. But then again the laughs will be on those GS II owners as well once they update. hehehe. That would be a mute point if carriers listened to customers and actually gave them what they want or actually use vs. trying to force things down our throats. In my opinion custom ROMs beat carrier ROMs for one main reason - flexibility. Those authors usually remove the crapola and add back features the carriers like to remove.
Ill never return mine unless it breaks. Phone is too nice
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The "Galaxy Nexus".
Not the Nexus One or the Nexus S. I ordered it from Expansys-usa should be here sometime this week. Nexus Prime was just a name they used when the phone was being developed. Cost me $729.99 with a -$20 coupon code for the site. The no SD card thing kinda bummed me out and thats originally why I bought the SR over it but after using google music during beta and now that its out and free. I have realized that 16gb will be enough storage for me since I can stream all of my music through google music. The SR was nice but I really want that stock android experience and not to have to wait for updates from AT&T or samsung. I got burnt out on waiting when using the Infuse. How many times did AT&T promise Gingerbread for the infuse...
If anyone wants the coupon code for Expansys usa its: 20OFFLS
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Personally, I find spending $749 vs. $0.01 for something very marginal a little over the top, to be honest. In fact, I would not even consider getting a phone locked to 3G speeds even a marginal gain considering that it does not have any storage expansion. I would regard this as a downgrade. But different strokes for different folks, I guess. Yes, it runs ICS but the Skyrocket would be running this in a few months. In addition, as this is not a phone supported by a major carrier, it would not sell into millions and it would not create the accessory and development support that carrier phones would definitely have.
Now, regarding Android 4.0 vs 2.6.6. ICS is nice but not that nice. It really would not affect much of the functionality of the phone. What does one want to do that cannot be accomplished well in 2.6.6? I cannot think of much. Wow, now you would get to customize the bottom row of the icons and have resizeable gadgets and few more goodies. You would be bored with this in a day or two. Not worth the hassle. I simply concentrate on the functionality that I need.
Now, what I need is good OS-based voice dialing. That is not available even on ICS.
So for those who are waiting, keep on waiting.
http://techcrunch.com/2012/03/05/sorry-folks-samsung-says-no-galaxy-s-iii-release-in-april/
I shud just get Skyrocket man..Atleast I will enjoy LTE speed
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I shud just get Skyrocket man..Atleast I will enjoy LTE speed
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or the htc one x looks pretty sweet and has lte
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I shud just get Skyrocket man..Atleast I will enjoy LTE speed
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skyrocket call quality literally sucks balls. due to not having audience chip
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skyrocket call quality literally sucks balls. due to not having audience chip
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Literally?
It literally sucks balls? And you're complaining??
How much do i have to pay for a phone to give me some mouth lovin?
On a serious note, I've always used I9000 firmware on my captivate, and remember, cm7, miui, and all ics roms use I9000 reoriented kernels and modems, so they also don't have audience chip support. Call quality pretty much the same as I897 stuff for me, with the added bonus of hsupa.
Just waiting for it to drop cause I'm getting it, skipping s2. Hoping it drops by June though.
Been going without audience support for almost a year now, sure not as good a stock i897 quality but not bad either. I think I could live with the skyrockets non audience chip
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from what i gather is that they wil be releasin the S3 along the olympics , as a spl edition and since Samsung is the official sponsor , it will be big event...
Not so bad really. Well not for me anyway. I just see it as a little more time to play with ICS on the Cappy. If you consider how far the devs have been able to push this thing, it's impressive and not dead yet.
Hard to wait for new toys though.
S4! S4!
any phone with big AMOLED and S4 CPU would be nice.
For me it's Galaxy Note on expensive side and Pantech Burst on cheap side.
S3
Yes S3 looks sweet and I'm hearing July but lets hope earlier. Also the Skyrocket HD will be out soon, better then the original.
http://www.techzek.com/att-samsung-galaxy-s-ii-skyrocket-hd-coming-soon/
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Yes S3 looks sweet and I'm hearing July but lets hope earlier. Also the Skyrocket HD will be out soon, better then the original.
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I may just have to wait a little longer for this to drop then.
I can finally get a new phone now, but I'm waiting for something new and sweet to drop.
I'm going to guess that samsung won't name their next flagship device with an S or galaxy. Its probably going to run under HSPA+, since LTE is still in its early ages and the same 1800mah battery from sgs2. I hope they will include virtual onscreen buttons and a newer touchwiz optimized for virtual onscreen buttons as well.
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Those predictions are unfounded, and make no sense:
Galaxy S is a HUGE brand name, why would they abandon it?
And why not include lte, that's not the ONLY connection available when the phone is equipped with lte hardware, so to limit it would be a dumb business strategy.
My reason for the different brand name:
There are a lot of samsung devices with "galaxy" on them already. So transition to a new series would be perfect at this point. Besides, we don't want it to end up like evo and droid series. Too many of the same titles, and rather confusing.
As for LTE:
Only because it's still on premature stages outside of US. Samsung prioritizes Europe, Asia, and Australia (as you can see by who gets updates first) so I wouldn't be surprised if it's on HSPA+ OR! The US variants will have LTE with a snapdragon processor.
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My reason for the different brand name:
There are a lot of samsung devices with "galaxy" on them already. So transition to a new series would be perfect at this point. Besides, we don't want it to end up like evo and droid series. Too many of the same titles, and rather confusing.
As for LTE:
Only because it's still on premature stages outside of US. Samsung prioritizes Europe, Asia, and Australia (as you can see by who gets updates first) so I wouldn't be surprised if it's on HSPA+ OR! The US variants will have LTE with a snapdragon processor.
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Galaxy S series only have 2 phones which is Galaxy S and then Galaxy S2/Galaxy S2 LTE (or Skyrocket in US)...so your reasoning is wrong...
All the other devices only use galaxy..they don't use S with galaxy...every company wants to brand their flagship devices like Sony does with Xperia and LG does with optimus.
Also Droid/My Touch are carrier's names not Manufacturers name...Verizon likes to add droid on all their android phones..so does T Mobile
The reason why Europe, Asia, and Australia get updates first is that they don't have carrier's in between to deal with. In US (and Canada), Carriers controls the future updates along with the manufacturers....even if Samsung provides the updates, ATT needs to approve it too..That's why same series phones (same company) on different carriers gets updates at different times...
As the poster above you said, it would be stupid to release a phone without LTE, when every company around the world is trying to launch it..
Compared to motorola and htc, samsung is better at marketing execution despite of the update delays. And I think it's proper to end it with galaxy s 2 because were heading towards android 4.0-4 etc., which has some differences in its look and feel from froyo and gingerbread.
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Well not all. Many cities around the globe dont have LTE yet. And take sony for example, with xperia ion and xperia S. Both successors of arc, both same processor, but xperia s for europe is only hspa+ whereas ion is LTE. My guess is samsung will go on the safe side to launch with hspa+ in order to keep their devices somewhat 'together' (sorry if I didnt make sense lol). But I do understand why it would be a let down with no LTE
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atleast we know that US version of SG3 will have LTE, irrespective of the carrier, as all the major carriers in US already have LTE or working to get it..
^ There's a possibility samsung will head to that direction too. HSPA+ international, LTE US domestic. Lol with ours and other people's analysis, it looks like samsung is the "Apple" for Android kinda
With the announcement of the GS III and the nice new additions to its software I'm really excited for system dumps so our guys can start porting the features.
TouchWiz Nature, All Cast, NFC file sharing, and the coolest feature to me is being able to play a video and simultaneously use many other features of the phone.
Do you guys think our trusty skyrocket can handle it?
What features are you excited for I know our guys will do their best to get as many features that can possibly work on our phone of choice. Having the skyrocket I am not even as excited as I thought I'd be about the announcement. We really do have a great phone.....
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momulah said:
With the announcement of the GS III and the nice new additions to its software I'm really excited for system dumps so our guys can start porting the features.
TouchWiz Nature, All Cast, NFC file sharing, and the coolest feature to me is being able to play a video and simultaneously use many other features of the phone.
Do you guys think our trusty skyrocket can handle it?
What features are you excited for I know our guys will do their best to get as many features that can possibly work on our phone of choice. Having the skyrocket I am not even as excited as I thought I'd be about the announcement. We really do have a great phone.....
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Would "NFC file sharing" not be the same as "Android Beam"? I play video and do other things at the same time with the skyrocket already. But I'm guessing extreme multitasking would have more to do with the quadCore of the GSIII and that cannot be ported over. The other things you mentioned I have never experienced.
I agree with the OP. would be very nice to see these features ported over. As far as our phone not being able to handle the multitasking, I have no doubt in my mind it will.
Samsung is doing the typical Apple stratagy. Update a phone, bring out a ton of software improvements that force you to upgrade. Great part about owning a Android phone is that I think it will be easier then it seems to port this to the S2. Smart on Samsungs part but our devs are smarter
What's to port over the new tw launcher and voice assist that's all that we don't really have
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I agree with the OP. would be very nice to see these features ported over. As far as our phone not being able to handle the multitasking, I have no doubt in my mind it will.
Samsung is doing the typical Apple stratagy. Update a phone, bring out a ton of software improvements that force you to upgrade. Great part about owning a Android phone is that I think it will be easier then it seems to port this to the S2. Smart on Samsungs part but our devs are smarter
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What improvements are you talking about? Until the phone is actually in someone's hand it will be difficult to tell, but from what I see, there isn't much a hardware difference (with exception to the QuadCore) from the SkyRocket so I'm not sure how ICS on the GSIII would be any different than ICS on the SkyRocket.
Could you explain the improvements?
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What improvements are you talking about? Until the phone is actually in someone's hand it will be difficult to tell, but from what I see, there isn't much a hardware difference (with exception to the QuadCore) from the SkyRocket so I'm not sure how ICS on the GSIII would be any different than ICS on the SkyRocket.
Could you explain the improvements?
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I guess what I was trying to say is the S3 has all these new "S" features. Plus all of the software enhancements.
I also have a S2, did the upgrade, and its pretty much the identical interface as gingerbread.
In order for Samsung to encourage new buyers would be to NOT include these features to older phones, and keep it strictly to the latest devices.
I believe our phones, although not quad core can run all of the native apps the S3 has with ease.
Visit engadget.com and look at some of their reviews of the phone. The screen and processor are the best to date. But is it worth a upgrade? Personally I don't think it is. What application out there has every not ran on our Skyrockets? Unless its for bragging purposes. Which I can totally understand lol
That didn't answer the question what features exactly what are you looking for
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The feature "pop-up-play" is referring to the situation where a video you are watching pops up to front of interface and stays there no matter what you are doing like messaging or navigating home screens. Its like the ice cream sandwich youtube widget in a way but with a video actually playing and moveable to wherever you need it on your screen. 100% Real multitasking.
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We have real multitasking the video thing will likely be ported over sounds like some apk file and maybe a framework add on
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What improvements are you talking about? Until the phone is actually in someone's hand it will be difficult to tell, but from what I see, there isn't much a hardware difference (with exception to the QuadCore) from the SkyRocket so I'm not sure how ICS on the GSIII would be any different than ICS on the SkyRocket.
Could you explain the improvements?
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Just quad core? That's it? Its a quad core with LTE radio built in, not like ours. That is a huge deal right there. The 2100 battery bump ... not a small deal. Upgraded MALI is a HUGE difference.
When you move from underneath to top, the screen is way way better too.
Dude don't downplay things that are clearly beyond you.
As for features in software, the camera app got a huge ass overhaul so I think we can benefit from that greatly and the gesture based calling.
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The feature "pop-up-play" is referring to the situation where a video you are watching pops up to front of interface and stays there no matter what you are doing like messaging or navigating home screens. Its like the ice cream sandwich youtube widget in a way but with a video actually playing and moveable to wherever you need it on your screen. 100% Real multitasking.
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Something like this? Gplay over xda
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With the announcement of the GS III and the nice new additions to its software I'm really excited for system dumps so our guys can start porting the features.
TouchWiz Nature, All Cast, NFC file sharing, and the coolest feature to me is being able to play a video and simultaneously use many other features of the phone.
Do you guys think our trusty skyrocket can handle it?
What features are you excited for I know our guys will do their best to get as many features that can possibly work on our phone of choice. Having the skyrocket I am not even as excited as I thought I'd be about the announcement. We really do have a great phone.....
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Yes 100% multitasking and the face tracker/screen on features. I hope those are more software oriented than hardware. Still am combing over the hands on videos
Edit: this stylus pen sucks
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You all are aware that there is a North American dual core version, right? LTE still isn't working with Quad Core devices, afaik.
that having been said, it means porting over the goodies from the S3 should be feasible once we all have OTA ICS. The Skyrocket is still an absolute monster in terms of potential. i've heard that they've recently figured out a way to OC our processors to run 3.1 safely. Any conflicts should be able to be worked around by someone who knows what they're doing.
My opinion? the s3 is just a placeholder until crApple releases the iClone5, then Sammy will deliver the TKO.
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Just quad core? That's it? Its a quad core with LTE radio built in, not like ours. That is a huge deal right there. The 2100 battery bump ... not a small deal. Upgraded MALI is a HUGE difference.
When you move from underneath to top, the screen is way way better too.
Dude don't downplay things that are clearly beyond you.
As for features in software, the camera app got a huge ass overhaul so I think we can benefit from that greatly and the gesture based calling.
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You all are aware that there is a North American dual core version, right? LTE still isn't working with Quad Core devices, afaik.
that having been said, it means porting over the goodies from the S3 should be feasible once we all have OTA ICS. The Skyrocket is still an absolute monster in terms of potential. i've heard that they've recently figured out a way to OC our processors to run 3.1 safely. Any conflicts should be able to be worked around by someone who knows what they're doing.
My opinion? the s3 is just a placeholder until crApple releases the iClone5, then Sammy will deliver the TKO.
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I love it when pwople don't take their own advice.
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I love it when pwople don't take their own advice.
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The spec sheet says 4G. Now depending on what countries marketing you look at, that means LTE. Also by definition it means LTE.
In addition, the phone is supposed to be LTE capable. Also, he said AFAIK, which doesn't mean that its fact.
What advice you want me to take?
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The spec sheet says 4G. Now depending on what countries marketing you look at, that means LTE. Also by definition it means LTE.
In addition, the phone is supposed to be LTE capable. Also, he said AFAIK, which doesn't mean that its fact.
What advice you want me to take?
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LTE = Long Term Evelution
4G does NOT mean LTE unless it is specified as "4GLTE". 4G is and has always had a variety of meanings but for AT&T it means "HSPA+ with advanced backhaul. You know AT&T...the network that sells the Skyrocket? SkyRocket... you know the forum you are posting in?
I live in the USA...you know, the country that the SkyRocket is sold in? So it doesn't really matter how they sell the international version of the GSIII, we will get the USA (North American) variant. And this post is about porting over software from the GSIII to the Skyrocket.
It's clear that any advice would be wasted on you. And it is also clear that you go from thread to thread trying to pick fights. However, you will have to find someone else to pick one with because this is the last reply you will get from me and hopefully, the thread can get back on target. Goodnight.
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Deeper and deeper...
LTE = Long Term Evelution
4G does NOT mean LTE unless it is specified as "4GLTE". 4G is and has always had a variety of meanings but for AT&T it means "HSPA+ with advanced backhaul. You know AT&T...the network that sells the Skyrocket? SkyRocket... you know the forum you are posting in?
I live in the USA...you know, the country that the SkyRocket is sold in? So it doesn't really matter how they sell the international version of the GSIII, we will get the USA (North American) variant. And this post is about porting over software from the GSIII to the Skyrocket.
It's clear that any advice would be wasted on you. And it is also clear that you go from thread to thread trying to pick fights. However, you will have to find someone else to pick one with because this is the last reply you will get from me and hopefully, the thread can get back on target. Goodnight.
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I'm not trying to find fights at all. Also, regardless of what your stupid American marketing says 4G means LTE. Officially it is the standard adopted by the entire world by the GSMA
You can read about it here: http://www.informationweek.com/news/203101622
Now if your done arguing facts you'd remind yourself that Samsung is not an American company so when they say 4G, they aren't talking about HSPA only per se (unconfirmed because nobody has the phone).
For you to think otherwise is just plain ignorant and last time I checked just because skyrocket was brand name given to the North American model doesn't mean those are the only people here and AT&T is the only carrier that we need to look at. Skyrocket isn't sold in the USA either, it is sold in several other countries with a different name, your self centered view hinders you from seeing that though.
Lastly, I did make proper suggestions about what would be cool to port over so I was on topic prior to all of this, if you actually read then you would know that, just like you'd know more about the phone you hold and the standards you use.
Now quit being ignorant and stop thinking I'm trying to pick a fight.
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I'm not trying to find fights at all. Also, regardless of what your stupid American marketing says 4G means LTE. Officially it is the standard adopted by the entire world by the GSMA
You can read about it here: http://www.informationweek.com/news/203101622
Now if your done arguing facts you'd remind yourself that Samsung is not an American company so when they say 4G, they aren't talking about HSPA only per se (unconfirmed because nobody has the phone).
For you to think otherwise is just plain ignorant and last time I checked just because skyrocket was brand name given to the North American model doesn't mean those are the only people here and AT&T is the only carrier that we need to look at. Skyrocket isn't sold in the USA either, it is sold in several other countries with a different name, your self centered view hinders you from seeing that though.
Lastly, I did make proper suggestions about what would be cool to port over so I was on topic prior to all of this, if you actually read then you would know that, just like you'd know more about the phone you hold and the standards you use.
Now quit being ignorant and stop thinking I'm trying to pick a fight.
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Read here: http://www.engadget.com/2012/05/03/samsung-galaxy-s-iii-is-official/
No LTE in the version you were looking at in the press event. It's an HSPA+ version. LTE will come later.
So like other Galaxy...we will have to wait to see what comes across the pond. And unless Samsung has some magic up their sleeves, nobody has any knowledge as of yet of a Exynos processor that can work with an LTE radio. And I'll be honest, if they had one waiting, I kinda think they would have mentioned it. No reason to NOT announce that the LTE will be quad-core with all the rumors flying that it won't be.
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Read here: http://www.engadget.com/2012/05/03/samsung-galaxy-s-iii-is-official/
No LTE in the version you were looking at in the press event. It's an HSPA+ version. LTE will come later.
So like other Galaxy...we will have to wait to see what comes across the pond. And unless Samsung has some magic up their sleeves, nobody has any knowledge as of yet of a Exynos processor that can work with an LTE radio. And I'll be honest, if they had one waiting, I kinda think they would have mentioned it. No reason to NOT announce that the LTE will be quad-core with all the rumors flying that it won't be.
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Your right. No LTE as of yet. Doesnt matter for most people in Canada anyways. I think in Ontario only Toronto and Ottawa has it, the rest of the province is stuck with HSPA+.
Every time I hear "4G" it makes me chuckle. HSPA+ is the same as HSPA, only difference being "mimo" technology. Therefore, it is still 3G.
That being said, the only technology thats "true 4G" would then be LTE.
g2tegg said:
Your right. No LTE as of yet. Doesnt matter for most people in Canada anyways. I think in Ontario only Toronto and Ottawa has it, the rest of the province is stuck with HSPA+.
Every time I hear "4G" it makes me chuckle. HSPA+ is the same as HSPA, only difference being "mimo" technology. Therefore, it is still 3G.
That being said, the only technology thats "true 4G" would then be LTE.
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All this arguing with no phone in sight, not for at least 'till december(maybe) for us here in the states, right?