There's an official T-Mobile update available as of this morning. It's over 40MB in size (pretty sure) so I'm imagining It's chock full of goodies.
I can't install it until I get home and defrost some bloat, so does anyone else wanna give it a shot?
I'll give it a shot. It says security and optimizations. DLing now.
EDIT: Looks like an update to Wifi calling.
EDIT2: New radio too: 11.59.3504.00_11.16.3504.20_2
Build: 1.55.531.3
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yep, it's 43.2 MB, but definitely not ICS. will have to play with it to see if anything feels or looks different. i have attached the OTA package for anyone who'd like to have a look at it
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/18474790/OT....28.531.10_release_2279923pt850rhelkwzr8g.zip
Seems like the big weather widget is now missing the awesome graphics/animation?
Edit: also a BIG word of warning... Revolutionary is saying the new HBOOT is NOT supported at this time.
Does temp root still work?
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Does temp root still work?
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I don't think so, just tried it for the first time ever, but it didn't seem to work. Ran it twice but still don't have root access.
So I know this is gonna sound like a dumb question but please humor me. What would happen if I ran the update on my rooted phone? Would it brick the phone or just unroot it?
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So I know this is gonna sound like a dumb question but please humor me. What would happen if I ran the update on my rooted phone? Would it brick the phone or just unroot it?
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Probably neither, it would more than likely just fail and you would just pull your battery out and reboot to where you are now.
Well I only rooted my phone to unlock it so if I wanted to install the update then I would have to unroot (which I already no how to do).
There was a bump in the kernel version.... but there's nothing in the release notes that would indicate what's changed there. They only mention netflix improvements, Google security fixes, WiFi calling improvements, and something else so minor I've forgotten it already.
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Well I only rooted my phone to unlock it so if I wanted to install the update then I would have to unroot (which I already no how to do).
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Just wait a few days. Someone will float a rooted version out before too long.
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and here's the info on the new HBOOT: version # is 1.45.0013. it says *locked* at the top, but it still says S-OFF. i accidentally still had a PC59IMG.zip on my sdcard, and it read it and asked if i wanted to update.....
yogi2010 said:
yep, it's 43.2 MB, but definitely not ICS. will have to play with it to see if anything feels or looks different. i have attached the OTA package for anyone who'd like to have a look at it
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/18474790/OT....28.531.10_release_2279923pt850rhelkwzr8g.zip
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Looks like a lot of the stock ringtones are gone . I never rooted my phone..i only know they are gone becaise it put my ringtone as tmobile jingle. The one I use is gone.
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Thanks for posting about this, and I really appreciate that the update has been provided so people can get it.
I am downloading the update now from yogi2010's dropbox - i'll see what I can find when I break it open after the download finishes.
I just woke up, so this gets to be the first item on my list.
If there is a new kernel provided, then don't expect to be able to open that up and scan for changes - but otherwise i'll see what I can find out and report back.
I updated my phone on friday night, and it was my first update ever. Is this the same one, or is it a newer version?
First impressions: wow, they made tiny changes to just about everything in the system.
I am going to focus first and foremost on the GPS changes they made - looks like they updated the SUPL certification, the GPS lib file - I need to find out what they did. They probably made it look like the GPS changes I made, but I never edited the SUPL certification file so expect an update to my GPS patch (probably) when I figure it all out.
I am also concerned about what they did with the bluetooth stuff - they updated the blacklist and also all of the Bluetooth files on the device.
If anyone applied the update, can you check and see if all of your bluetooth devices work?
I am half tempted to apply the update to one of my MT4GS phones, but I'm afraid of bricking it trying to go back after I sort through it all - writing the Radio is where you can brick your phone and that I would have to do ... so looks like i'll be figuring out how to decompile some of these update files and note the changes.
If anyone has any information to share about the update, please post it here.
Blue6IX said:
First impressions: wow, they made tiny changes to just about everything in the system.
I am going to focus first and foremost on the GPS changes they made - looks like they updated the SUPL certification, the GPS lib file - I need to find out what they did. They probably made it look like the GPS changes I made, but I never edited the SUPL certification file so expect an update to my GPS patch (probably) when I figure it all out.
I am also concerned about what they did with the bluetooth stuff - they updated the blacklist and also all of the Bluetooth files on the device.
If anyone applied the update, can you check and see if all of your bluetooth devices work?
I am half tempted to apply the update to one of my MT4GS phones, but I'm afraid of bricking it trying to go back after I sort through it all - writing the Radio is where you can brick your phone and that I would have to do ... so looks like i'll be figuring out how to decompile some of these update files and note the changes.
If anyone has any information to share about the update, please post it here.
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the reason i was kind of a proponent of the first update was because there were changes to a LOT of things, even tho the size of the package was small. still, i myself don't know what was changed, if anything.
do you think the fact the HBOOT read the original PC59IMG.zip on my sdcard, and asked me to update, means that we can still go back to what we had before?
unfortunately no bluetooth devices here but will report back later about GPS.
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the reason i was kind of a proponent of the first update was because there were changes to a LOT of things, even tho the size of the package was small. still, i myself don't know what was changed, if anything.
do you think the fact the HBOOT read the original PC59IMG.zip on my sdcard, and asked me to update, means that we can still go back to what we had before?
unfortunately no bluetooth devices here but will report back later about GPS.
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Probably - I may very well end up trying later but don't hold your breath. I might apply it to my phone that I bought with my plan so that I can take it back to T-Mo and force them to give me another one because their update broke it.
It kinda is special to me, being my first smartphone ever, so I don't want to part with it, but if I can't figure it all out i'm not so sentimental that i'll let that impede progress.
-also -
If anyone does flash this, some of the files that were removed with Undeadk9's security patch - and are also removed in my ROM, are put back onto the phone - most notably QXDM2SD.apk that I have seen thus far - this will have to be removed again if the update is flashed to prevent logging activities.
I have no idea what Smith.apk is - so decompiling and looking through that after I finish typing this out.
I'll keep people updated as I go through it.
can someone check if the CIQ stuff is still there or not?
i got a feeling...
Braccoz said:
can someone check if the CIQ stuff is still there or not?
i got a feeling...
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I'm not sure yet about CIQ - but Smith.apk is absolutely a new logging utility.
It looks like it's primary function is to log battery stuff, but that doesn't look like it's all that it's logging - i'm looking into this and disappointed to see another attempt at spyware and intrusive logging being pushed onto our phones.
Please be advised that in addition to the .apk file mentioned above, Smith.apk is a logging utility that needs to be assessed and explored more in-depth. I am doing so now but others should as well if they can, maybe see something I miss.
Also looks like Smith.apk gives us a new dialer code - 76484 is the number but not sure what the preface is to get to it. Check my sig under 'guides index' to see the other dialer codes i've found so far.
If anyone has installed this update, can you experiment with the different ways of entering dialer codes to see about activating this number?
More to follow as I get through it all.
Thanks!
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I have searched and only found the posts in separate threads talking about the loss of Sprint TV, and most have not been addressed within the threads. I had Damage 2.1 ROM installed and lost Sprint TV after nearly a week. States I need to be a Sprint Customer to use this app.
I switched to the Fresh 2b ROM last night and had Sprint TV working. This morning I get the same message I am not a Sprint Customer.
I have updated the Build.prop file to show the 310120 and Sprint thinking this might help. Just curious if anyone out there with more knowledge than me has a fix for this. As I stated in a thread post, the TV on the phone is a great kid distraction at times when I need it. That and I like having everything I am paying for working.
Thanks
Interesting, I was thinking about flashing my ROM to one of the custom 2.X roms, however if this is the case I may just wait a while. Although I don't use Sprint TV alot, jniiya is right, it is a good kid distraction to have on your phone... Then again TV turns kids in to zombies.
I can run Sprint TV just find using damgeless, and I'm able to stream with no problem. I did have to restart my phone after I installed it though.
JUST USE FRESH'S PRE KITCHEN TO FLASH IT I did it on damageless rom with no probs whatsoever
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JUST USE FRESH'S PRE KITCHEN TO FLASH IT I did it on damageless rom with no probs whatsoever
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It's not a problem of getting on the phone. I have had it installed from day one with both ROMs. It works for a while, but then it gives me the error of you need to be a Sprint Customer to use this app.
I am thinking since these builds are based off the Eris it is sending some type of info back to the Sprint servers show it as a Verizon phone. I just can't figure out what it is since I have changed the build.prop file, and I am not familiar enough with these systems/codes to dig around and think of another place it would be sending back info as if it were Verizon.
This is not like a deal breaker with me in anyway. Just trying to figure it out for the future.
Thanks for reading the post.
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It's not a problem of getting on the phone. I have had it installed from day one with both ROMs. It works for a while, but then it gives me the error of you need to be a Sprint Customer to use this app.
I am thinking since these builds are based off the Eris it is sending some type of info back to the Sprint servers show it as a Verizon phone. I just can't figure out what it is since I have changed the build.prop file, and I am not familiar enough with these systems/codes to dig around and think of another place it would be sending back info as if it were Verizon.
This is not like a deal breaker with me in anyway. Just trying to figure it out for the future.
Thanks for reading the post.
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Exact same problem here. It works for a while, then I get that error message. If I uninstall and reinstall Sprint TV (pick your favorite method), it works for a while again, but after minutes, hours, or a day (no noticeable pattern) I get that error message.
I've posted on it in several threads about this topic hoping to find a fix. People have told me to edit my build.prop file. I keep trying, but I'm new to this, and every time I try to add the lines below I have problems. The phone freezes during boot up, and I end up having to do a nandroid restore.
ro.cdma.home.operator.numeric=310120
ro.cdma.home.operator.alpha=Sprint
Several threads on this forum and others say this (or variations on it) will solve the problem, but it locks my phone up. I've tried with the =, without, with spaces before and after, and at various places within the file. I wonder if I'm doing something really stupid because I don't know exactly what the formatting is supposed to be. If anybody knows of a tutorial on build.prop, I'd be thrilled to use that, but I haven't been able to find one.
Been working fine for me. Running Fresh 2.0b2 since Flipz released it.
Not to hijack, but have you tried the TV.com app? Something like that I think I uninstalled it, but I thought it was actually better than Sprint TV...
Yep, I went back to 1.5 Fresh because of Sprint TV. Sprint just got ESPN and the NCAA tourney should be on. I am crossing my fingers that Sprint releases the update in the next week or so.
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I've posted on it in several threads about this topic hoping to find a fix. People have told me to edit my build.prop file. I keep trying, but I'm new to this, and every time I try to add the lines below I have problems. The phone freezes during boot up, and I end up having to do a nandroid restore.
ro.cdma.home.operator.numeric=310120
ro.cdma.home.operator.alpha=Sprint
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You do not have to add the lines just change the values. The lines are already in there.
This fix didn't work for me. It still tells me I need to be a sprint subscriber.
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You do not have to add the lines just change the values. The lines are already in there.
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They're not in the build.prop on my phone. It's not like I didn't look for them. I even used the search feature on my editor. The only line I have that contains cdma is:
ro.cdma.privilege.timeout=120000
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They're not in the build.prop on my phone. It's not like I didn't look for them. I even used the search feature on my editor. The only line I have that contains cdma is:
ro.cdma.privilege.timeout=120000
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Sorry about that. What rom are you using. I am damage 1.0 if you want I can post the build.prop from my phone but I do not know if it will fix SprintTv because I do not use and I have not installed it.
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Sorry about that. What rom are you using. I am damage 1.0 if you want I can post the build.prop from my phone but I do not know if it will fix SprintTv because I do not use and I have not installed it.
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No problem. I am also using damage 1.0, however, I see references to pancake (and cupcake, bikcmp) in my build.prop file. I was surprised by that. Is that normal? I did do a wipe (wipe data/factory reset) before I installed damage. In fact, I wiped before going from pancake to fresh 2.0 and again before going from fresh 2.0 to damage.
If you can post the build.prop, I'll give it a try and report back.
build.prop damage 1.0
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No problem. I am also using damage 1.0, however, I see references to pancake (and cupcake, bikcmp) in my build.prop file. I was surprised by that. Is that normal? I did do a wipe (wipe data/factory reset) before I installed damage. In fact, I wiped before going from pancake to fresh 2.0 and again before going from fresh 2.0 to damage.
If you can post the build.prop, I'll give it a try and report back.
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Sorry for the late post. I just pull it from my phone. Attached is the build.prop from Damage 1.0. Again I do not use SprintTv or have it installed so I do not know if it will fix it. You have to rename the file to build.prop and push it to /system/.
Ok so I'm watching ESPN all day long at work, and I turn it off so I can get ready to leave work.
While on the subway I try to access it and I get the "You must be a Sprint customer to view Sprint TV" or some crap like that. I'm like ok, maybe because I might be roaming on Verizon network its not letting me. So I wait until I have a good signal and try again, same error message.....
I tried restarting phone, disable and re-enable mobile network, and checked to make sure I wasn't roaming. No Luck.
Look for the Tmobile ported one
Has anyone tried it on Darch's rom. It's based off of the legend which is for sprint?
Can i get a link to the official Sprint TV APK. I cant find it. I have the hacked t-mo one. but half of the video is cut off for some reason
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Can i get a link to the official Sprint TV APK. I cant find it. I have the hacked t-mo one. but half of the video is cut off for some reason
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Here are the apk's. I got these from the Fresh Pre-Kitchen when I was running 1.1
*UPDATE*
Designgears has captured the OTA update and packaged it up for anyone who is having trouble with the download applying.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=790080
Software Updates and Maintainence Releases
1.09/21/2010 - Firmware Over the Air (FOTA) software update changing software version from I897UCJF6 to I897UCJH7. A 12MB download is being pushed to Samsung Captivate owners starting on 09/21/2010 and will continue Tuesday through Friday at 15K customers per day until complete. This is NOT an operating system update. This update includes the following software updates:
•Preinstalled software - QuickOffice for Android will allow users to edit various Microsoft Office documents.
•Messaging - Exchange 2003 support, MMS and other messaging enhancements.
•Voice - Improved calling experience.
•Media - media scanning time improvements.
Note:
This firmware update is not intended to resolve all device reset or freezing issues, which may be caused by:
•Corrupted files
•Device memory becoming filled and leaving insufficient room to run applications.
•Use of incompatible 3rd party applications on the Samsung Captivate.
http://www.wireless.att.com/answer-center/solutionDisplay.jsp?solutionId=KB110797
scroll to the very bottom of the link
No gps fix?
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Mention of GPS strangely absent.
been running JH7 since it came out with SRE.
WTF is this? JH7 doesn't fix GPS nor does it come close!
(battery life is AMAZING THOUGH!)
Well, since GPS is not mentioned, I doubt this is meant as the fix for GPS issues...
But it IS a good sign that AT&T is actually working on our device, since they are releasing this FW to the public.
Very odd. They guaranteed a GPS fix by end of Sept. We already have used JH7 and it doesn't fix our GPS. I can't imagine them putting out another update before the end of September...
Is it possible that the update from AT&T will somehow include more file update or be different from the JH7 version that we have? Beyond that, I can't understand how they are finally releasing an update but NOT fixing the biggest issue. Especially since they apparently fixed it on the Vibrant and know how to fix it.
Looks like I got it. I definately have to test Exchange now. Maybe it'll work properly.
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Looks like I got it. I definately have to test Exchange now. Maybe it'll work properly.
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Check the GPS....
actually, before I get too crazy, let me verify something:
I had JF6, I made a backup image using ROM Manager/Clockwork Mod. I then applied the JH7 found here, had problems (no sideloading), and restored the image. I am ASSUMING that put me back on Baseband JF6, but I don't remember checking afterwards.
Is it possible that the JH7 I have is left over from my manual update? I don't wanna lie to everything thinking I got the official push and really didn't.
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actually, before I get too crazy, let me verify something:
I had JF6, I made a backup image using ROM Manager/Clockwork Mod. I then applied the JH7 found here, had problems (no sideloading), and restored the image. I am ASSUMING that put me back on Baseband JF6, but I don't remember checking afterwards.
Is it possible that the JH7 I have is left over from my manual update? I don't wanna lie to everything thinking I got the official push and really didn't.
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You can flash back to JF6...
I will do it if need be but it will have to wait until tonight.
My GPS works fine and I have none of the other issues that this is supposed to fix, so I couldn't tell you whether the update will fix those or not.
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Looks like I got it. I definately have to test Exchange now. Maybe it'll work properly.
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Did you have to look for updates on your phone or was it sent auto? Were you running stock when you got it?
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Did you have to look for updates on your phone or was it sent auto? Were you running stock when you got it?
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They are pushing it, but you should be able to get it if you search for updates and your phone meets the criteria...
I'm running a backup now. I'm need to test a few things. I just happened across this thread and had a quick look at my basband number and it shows JH7. I *should* be stock. But that assumes that when I restored back to my original image, it also restored JF6
I'll get back with you. I don't feel like I'd be one of the lucky ones to get the update first (unless it goes by purchase date, I did get mine early).
LOL...fail. I went to check for update, said no update and that I can not check for another 24 hours. WTF? why cant I check for updates when I want.
Noob question: Is it necessary to un-root and un-lagfix before attempting to download or install this update?
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LOL...fail. I went to check for update, said no update and that I can not check for another 24 hours. WTF? why cant I check for updates when I want.
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Me too, lol, I'm already running JH7 that was leaked. According to the AT&T site they are looking at your firmware version and that's how they determine who's getting it.
Hmmm, debating if this update is even worth it. Doesn't fix GPS, and it's not Froyo
OTA update process usually takes days or weeks. It pushes in batches so that only limited number of phones will download the update so that the update server don't get overloaded. No, maunally check for update does not speed the process up at all or change your position in the queue. Basically, you have to wait for your turn.
Sooner or later someone will figure out the URL to download the update directly. Only when that happens, you can go and download the update and manually put that file to internal SD card, boot the phone into recovery mode and apply the update.
If that's too much work for you, wait for your turn.
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Noob question: Is it necessary to un-root and un-lagfix before attempting to download or install this update?
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same question here. Anyone know if I'll lose root/non-market apps if I apply this update?
One thing I did notice about the leaked version was the new YouTube app styling. I kinda liked it. Came in handy at the gas pump.
Hey all,
I'm getting my G Tablet tomorrow and I'd just like to get some things clarified.
I know, the first thing some will say is USE SEARCH! Well, I did - and that's actually why I just want to get some things straight before I go down the path of modifying the device software. See, reading it all has managed to confuse me more than help me get a definitive instruction set for forging ahead.
I'm seeing the update "****s on CWM" according to a user...and then a 'fix' for that. Than I see that Gapps causes FCs for some, while it works for others. So...yeah, a little back and forth on what to do and who's instructions to follow.
Alright, so first thing's first....Should I flash the Clockwork Mod that I'm seeing available - 0.8? or is there something else I should consider or that I've missed? or maybe wait for a newer version? Should I even flash CWM if I get the newest (and I WILL be getting the newest) S/W version? Are there any downsides at all to flashing CWM on there in terms of messing with OTA updates, etc?
I read this:
"All the ROMS use a standard firmware updater that can be used by non-technical users. Here is an explanation on how it works:...."
Sooo, does that mean I can live without CWM? If an update doesn't work for some reason, will I be able to fix it or overwrite it somehow if I can't get into the tablet at all from the tablet itself? I read something about going into APX mode and putting things on through Windows, is this an infallible method?
Second of all, I read the FAQ thoroughly (I think and hope) but I'm still not 100% on what Gapps to DL or how to put a working Android Market on there especially with this new S/W update. I've seen how to 'fix' the Market to see missing apps, but not how to actually install it on the G Tablet. I may have missed that post somewhere on here.
I'm also unclear if I should get Gapps or not at all, as I've read that some have FCs on there while others do not - so what's the general consensus in light of this update that was just released as of Dec. 21, 2010?
Ultimately, here is what I'd like from my GTab:
I'd like to run the new official Tapn'Tap released recently first and foremost.
I'd like to have the official/unofficial (w/e) Google Market.
I'd like to run Google Apps (Gtalk, Gmail, etc.).
IF I don't like Tapn'Tap, and this is a worse case scenario situation, as in if I HATE TnT - I'd like to have the option to slap something else on there and I'd like to make sure I don't brick my Tablet. Whether that means storing an original official TnT ROM or whatever.
Point me in the right direction please, especially considering things may have changed as of the new S/W update.
Thanks much and sorry for all the questions. I assure you I used search and I attempted to put it together on my own. It's been a long time since I've modded (G1 was the last time) and I don't do it often. Also, apologies if I posted this in the wrong section....I considered posting it in Dev. section but this one seemed better suited.
Thanks again, XDA rocks.
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Hey all,
I'm getting my G Tablet tomorrow and I'd just like to get some things clarified.
I know, the first thing some will say is USE SEARCH! Well, I did - and that's actually why I just want to get some things straight before I go down the path of modifying the device software. See, reading it all has managed to confuse me more than help me get a definitive instruction set for forging ahead.
I'm seeing the update "****s on CWM" according to a user...and then a 'fix' for that. Than I see that Gapps causes FCs for some, while it works for others. So...yeah, a little back and forth on what to do and who's instructions to follow.
Alright, so first thing's first....Should I flash the Clockwork Mod that I'm seeing available - 0.8? or is there something else I should consider or that I've missed? or maybe wait for a newer version? Should I even flash CWM if I get the newest (and I WILL be getting the newest) S/W version? Are there any downsides at all to flashing CWM on there in terms of messing with OTA updates, etc?
I read this:
"All the ROMS use a standard firmware updater that can be used by non-technical users. Here is an explanation on how it works:...."
Sooo, does that mean I can live without CWM? If an update doesn't work for some reason, will I be able to fix it or overwrite it somehow if I can't get into the tablet at all from the tablet itself? I read something about going into APX mode and putting things on through Windows, is this an infallible method?
Second of all, I read the FAQ thoroughly (I think and hope) but I'm still not 100% on what Gapps to DL or how to put a working Android Market on there especially with this new S/W update. I've seen how to 'fix' the Market to see missing apps, but not how to actually install it on the G Tablet. I may have missed that post somewhere on here.
I'm also unclear if I should get Gapps or not at all, as I've read that some have FCs on there while others do not - so what's the general consensus in light of this update that was just released as of Dec. 21, 2010?
Ultimately, here is what I'd like from my GTab:
I'd like to run the new official Tapn'Tap released recently first and foremost.
I'd like to have the official/unofficial (w/e) Google Market.
I'd like to run Google Apps (Gtalk, Gmail, etc.).
IF I don't like Tapn'Tap, and this is a worse case scenario situation, as in if I HATE TnT - I'd like to have the option to slap something else on there and I'd like to make sure I don't brick my Tablet. Whether that means storing an original official TnT ROM or whatever.
Point me in the right direction please, especially considering things may have changed as of the new S/W update.
Thanks much and sorry for all the questions. I assure you I used search and I attempted to put it together on my own. It's been a long time since I've modded (G1 was the last time) and I don't do it often. Also, apologies if I posted this in the wrong section....I considered posting it in Dev. section but this one seemed better suited.
Thanks again, XDA rocks.
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I don't know how much direction pointing I can do but here goes..
Clockwork mod in my opinion is a necessity. Version 0.8 is the best one for most people because of how it deals with the memory locations. Yes, you can do things without it. The update process is as simple as putting an update.zip file, and a recovery folder with a command file in it on an sdcard and holding the vol + button while hitting power. It is easy. Clockwork has a lot of little features though that make life easier. You can make a complete system backup with it. You can install updates, and new firmware with it. You can completely lock up your tablet and using clockwork and your backup be back in business in about 3-4 minutes. You can load new roms and if you hate them you can go back to your old working stuff in minutes. Yes, there are ways to make one of these tablets work again when they get stuck. I don't think anyone has actually bricked one. Some may think they have, but I doubt it.
Unless you are dead set on wanting the stock TnT interface the easiest way to get what you want is to load one of the roms. Yes, there are ways to get most of it without loading a new rom. Most everyone that has gone the I have to stay stock but want all the mods has eventually just loaded a rom. TnT3.0 is based on the latest stock stuff. It has the market, flash, etc. already in it. VegaN is what I use mostly but they are both stable and fast.
Before you flash something brand new that just came out I would read about it and see what others have to say about issues. It usually only takes about 30 minutes until you can tell if it is going to be good or not.
All of the roms for this tablet have there own little quirks. The stock has gotten better with each update but it still is not as good as the ones I named.
Finally.. This tablet is very easy to play with. It is pretty much unbrickable. Anything you can possibly break one of us has probably already broken before and fixed. There are some people that seem to have problems doing every little thing. Most don't. So I wouldn't let any of it scare you off because none of it is that hard.
With a little bit of searching almost everything you may want it to do can be done. I really love mine, and when I got it almost 2 months ago I hated it...
"Finally.. This tablet is very easy to play with. It is pretty much unbrickable. Anything you can possibly break one of us has probably already broken before and fixed. There are some people that seem to have problems doing every little thing. Most don't. So I wouldn't let any of it scare you off because none of it is that hard."
"Sigh" of relief. Then I'm not too worried. As I said I've dabbled in modifying my G1 and it is mostly cake. But I've just been seeing conflicting posts on whether cwm works with the newest official tnt release or not so I wasn't sure what to do.
Thanks for your advice. And when I said pointers, I meant like this as well as pointing me to any posts I may have missed on how to do whatever. Though I THINK I found most of them.
Neoprimal said:
"Finally.. This tablet is very easy to play with. It is pretty much unbrickable. Anything you can possibly break one of us has probably already broken before and fixed. There are some people that seem to have problems doing every little thing. Most don't. So I wouldn't let any of it scare you off because none of it is that hard."
"Sigh" of relief. Then I'm not too worried. As I said I've dabbled in modifying my G1 and it is mostly cake. But I've just been seeing conflicting posts on whether cwm works with the newest official tnt release or not so I wasn't sure what to do.
Thanks for your advice. And when I said pointers, I meant like this as well as pointing me to any posts I may have missed on how to do whatever. Though I THINK I found most of them.
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The new release overwrites clockwork. But it is not hard to put back. Always a good idea to copy the clockwork backups folder to your pc, or somewhere they won't be lost. The custom roms typically leave the recovery image alone and can be installed with or without clockwork by either extracting the zip contents for stock recovery, or installing it as is in clockwork.
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Finally.. This tablet is very easy to play with. It is pretty much unbrickable.
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I can vouch for that. Erased system, boot, data and cache in preparation for a new ROM. Accidentally rebooted and couldn't get into recovery. Booted it into APX mode, flashed stock and was on my way.
I would just run ZRoot, then upload the TnTLite 3.0 recovery and update.zip and then do the recovery mode process. You should have a microsd handy just in case it doesn't work, but so far I haven't needed that.
This tablet is much easier to work with and very forgiving since VS never took the time to lock down the bootloader etc like Motorola did with my Droid X. You really shouldn't fear changing files out etc, provided you're getting a ROM from one of the people providing them here. If you can press and hold two buttons at once, you can make your gTab an awesome little tablet. It benchmarks about 1000 points higher than my Droid X on quadrant. Can't wait to see what these guys can do with Gingerbread.
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The new release overwrites clockwork. But it is not hard to put back. Always a good idea to copy the clockwork backups folder to your pc, or somewhere they won't be lost. The custom roms typically leave the recovery image alone and can be installed with or without clockwork by either extracting the zip contents for stock recovery, or installing it as is in clockwork.
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It is also not hard to alter the update so that it does not overwrite clockwork.
Open update.zip
Find updater-script, Open in notepad++
Remove the line that references recovery.img
Flash update
hogasswild said:
I would just run ZRoot, then upload the TnTLite 3.0 recovery and update.zip and then do the recovery mode process. You should have a microsd handy just in case it doesn't work, but so far I haven't needed that.
This tablet is much easier to work with and very forgiving since VS never took the time to lock down the bootloader etc like Motorola did with my Droid X. You really shouldn't fear changing files out etc, provided you're getting a ROM from one of the people providing them here. If you can press and hold two buttons at once, you can make your gTab an awesome little tablet. It benchmarks about 1000 points higher than my Droid X on quadrant. Can't wait to see what these guys can do with Gingerbread.
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with the new update however does the z4root still work? i heard it may not anymore. just curious also since im hopefully getting mine on sat for xmas
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It is also not hard to alter the update so that it does not overwrite clockwork.
Open update.zip
Find updater-script, Open in notepad++
Remove the line that references recovery.img
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Thanks for the info Rothnic! I had already flashed it before I figured out it removed Clockwork. Learning new stuff every day is good... Thanks..
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with the new update however does the z4root still work? i heard it may not anymore. just curious also since im hopefully getting mine on sat for xmas
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The very first time I rooted, I used ZRoot and installed 2.4.0. I didn't change anything and used the exact same process of simply copying over the 3.0.0 files over to the root directory of the internal memory and did the recovery procedure (vol+ and pwr keys). It worked like a charm.
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The very first time I rooted, I used ZRoot and installed 2.4.0. I didn't change anything and used the exact same process of simply copying over the 3.0.0 files over to the root directory of the internal memory and did the recovery procedure (vol+ and pwr keys). It worked like a charm.
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Ok cool, thanks cant wait for my g tablet hopefully sat morning
I think you'll like it a lot. I also own an iPad. While they are similar they are also a little different. Merry Christmas!
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I think you'll like it a lot. I also own an iPad. While they are similar they are also a little different. Merry Christmas!
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my mom has an ipad and my dad could only buy it while i was on my honeymoon bc he knew i wouldnt approve of an apple device in the house haha.
rothnic said:
It is also not hard to alter the update so that it does not overwrite clockwork.
Open update.zip
Find updater-script, Open in notepad++
Remove the line that references recovery.img
Flash update
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My device hasn't come yet (damn you FedEx!) but I'm eagerly awaiting it.
My plan:
Unbox, start it....do a factory reset from the getgo if it has enough juice.
Set it back up. Charge it to full. If whatever comes on it is as unbearable as I've seen in on Youtube - start modifications.
Will CWM install on it AFTER I do the update if it's available to me? I've seen that the update messes with it if it's already there - but noone's mentioned putting it on there after the fact. I may just go that route for simplicity sake.
Thanks for this!, and thank you all for chiming in with your experience. I feel much better about just getting my hands dirty in it all. I had wrote something to someone yesterday about jumping in and just doing it, but when it comes to dealing with it yourself it can be a daunting task - especially when it still has that new smell, lol. Anyway, thanks again. You guys really rock.
Will stop back later on after I've done my thing
I think they are both nice devices. There are trade off for both of them. I think the screen on the iPad is wonderful, where the gTab's is okay. But the gTab has a forward facing camera, you can print from it, and you can modify it fairly easily too.
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Finally.. This tablet is very easy to play with. It is pretty much unbrickable.
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...famous last words...
Seriously though...trust the directions from the great devs like roebeet. Follow their instructions word for word. You can switch ROMs and then flash back if you want. No worries...
Off topic!
Well...disappointment! Fedex had my package out for delivery at 8am and at 8pm, they're not here. This is why I like UPS, they show up at my door on the day of delivery, no exceptions - they have shown up at almost 9pm before. The Archos 101 I got was sent out at 8am as well but got here at 1:30pm - I suppose that was before the holiday rush.
Checking the details of my tracking I'm seeing a "delivery exception" at 7:30pm (I guess it was time to get back to the facility so they can clock out by 8pm?) and upon calling them I get a somewhat stumbling but polite CS who tells me the delivery went out "late" - upon which I asked if 8am was considered late, especially from a distribution facility WITHIN the same zip code as I am, and all he could say was "Very sorry about this".
Aaaanyway....I guess it will be tomorrow before I can report my adventures.
Think I'll be able to get my $3.99 back from Amazon? I have Prime and with that the package would have come tomorrow anyway. Basically my $3.99 is wasted. Imagine if I didn't have Prime though? Whew.
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If you can figure out how to brick it you will probably get an award.. It won't be a good award but probably one of those top ten dumb things people do awards. So far unless you plug the motherboard into a wall socket no one has bricked one. May think they have, but like I said before I doubt it..
And your right.. If it can be done, someone eventually will figure out how. And then we will all laugh at them.. At least I will
I finally got the G tablet tonight and...alright, don't flame me for this - but I don't see what all the complaints about the screen being horrendous or the device being molasses slow are about?
I don't know how people are trying to view it...but when looking at it or setting it on a stand to watch media, I'm not seeing any problem with the viewing angles. It's about the same as my laptop so I watch it the same way.
It's not even a 1/4 as slow as the stuff I've seen on Youtube or in some of the review videos I've seen around the net. I haven't gotten a single FC. Granted, I haven't put in a SD Card yet so maybe problems will start then?
I guess I should note, the very first thing I did was did a factory reset. Then I hooked it up to Wifi and got the 3053 update. I'm one of those who will be waiting for the 'official' update on the 24th.
I set up the time and date, restarted and everything works. I haven't installed flash yet (don't need it that much) and stuff that I DO want on there right now works fine (skype, pandora, fring, dropbox, evernote). I'm slowly figuring out a list of what I want/need from my Mytouch 4G to port to the VS GTab. Figure I don't really NEED Gtalk, Gmail on there because I have these on my phone AND PC - do I really want them making noises all around my home on 3 devices? I was concerned about getting the Google Apps on but now I'm finding I really don't need them. So it seems to me this will be a matter of learning to separate what I need on a tablet vs. my phone - I was of the mentality that I should just get whatever's on my phone on the tablet, this is something others apparently do as they seem to want everything that's on their phone, on their tablets as well.
I personally don't see the point in that. Had I had the Google Market, that would have escaped me as I'd have used Appbrain to just get my motherload of apps from the MT4G to the GTab. Not having it has slowed me, and now I get to re-evaluate before I do grab apps for it.
Now I just have to merge/convert my HTPC into a NAS device as well and find an app that will allow me to DLNA stream media from it and I'll be in mobile heaven.
I haven't had my wifi drop at all anywhere in my home and I've marched all over with it (I use full Wifi N, no G compat. so maybe my range is wider?). Tried email, etc. to replicate crashes and force closes but haven't so far. No surfing issues. I DID find that one app got 'stuck' being downloaded and I had to delete the file before the 'downloading' icon would go away, even after restart.
Maybe the trick to getting a workable GTab in the first place is to factory reset it before first use? Iunno. Things may change and issues may pop up the more I use it and as time passes - but so far, so good!
Again, I can't thank XDA enough for the advice and info. I've found and been given.
Sprdtyf350 said:
If you can figure out how to brick it you will probably get an award.. It won't be a good award but probably one of those top ten dumb things people do awards. So far unless you plug the motherboard into a wall socket no one has bricked one. May think they have, but like I said before I doubt it..
And your right.. If it can be done, someone eventually will figure out how. And then we will all laugh at them.. At least I will
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I figured it out. Accidentally hit one of the devkit nvflash .cabs and boom
Side loading
Apparently there is an update that has to be pushed to your phone from AT&T, but hardly anyone has received it yet. People in this thread are working on adding this feature without the update. This method will allow you to install non android market apps, but so far it disables your mms capability.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1111278
Free tethering/wifi hotspot
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=980591
By changing a few settings, you can have tethering/use wifi hotspot without adding a tethering plan from AT&T.
Maybe we could add future developments to this thread as they become available. I like the idea of leaving my phone stock so that it will automatically update.
Are you talking about the "silent" OTA that enables side-loading?
If so, and if by hardly anyone, you mean "hardly anyone here on XDA," it may be because they are rooted or otherwise running a custom ROM that will prevent them from getting OTA updates.
If you mean hardly anyone here on XDA that is bone stock, well, that might be true. And it also might be true that the recently discovered method of enabling sideloading will help some people, who don't mind their mms broken until some workaround fixes it.
Or they can root, and be done with it. There's nothing that will ever be OTA that I would want to get OTA anyway -- it will be available here shortly after.
The only excuse people have to not root is that it *appears* to be difficult. It really isn't. You can enjoy the same exact phone with a stock ROM, but with the added perks that rooting brings. Yes, that includes sideloading. And SIM unlock. And no more bloatware.
However, if this sideloading trick can be perfected, and it will keep people who otherwise don't have the patience to root their phones and as a result would just screw them up, causing them to further not spend the time to read and search, instead firing off 1000's of redundant "Halp Me!" posts, then that's a good thing.
ehh I would just rather use adb.... (if I was stock)
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ehh I would just rather use adb.... (if I was stock)
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Or that. My friggin' rant post from hell was long winded enough for me to forgo mentioning much more.
mudknot2005 said:
ehh I would just rather use adb.... (if I was stock)
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Yeah, OP, you should definitely include a link to the adb method, or the Sideload Wonder Machine method.
I used SWM to install Swype weeks before I got the AT&T non market option (which was a week before I rooted).
ST3ALTHPSYCH0 said:
Yeah, OP, you should definitely include a link to the adb method, or the Sideload Wonder Machine method.
I used SWM to install Swype weeks before I got the AT&T non market option (which was a week before I rooted).
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The adb method for sideloading an app is already discussed in mudknot's stickied guide.
Supposedly there is still an update floating around for unknown sources. If I happen to get my hands on it I will post it.
That's the only reason I haven't updated the side loading part of the guide. If the update gets pushed to every phone with in the month then it would be obsolete quick. I might add it just to have the most information possible... Though I will not put this method on there, because there is no reason you should have to give something up to gain something (captivate anyone?)..
Still stock here, without the non-market update.
No issues at all using the SWM. I didn't like that whole stupid "dropbox" method mentioned. It's easier and faster to just to use "disk drive" mode to copy the apk files onto the PC.
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Supposedly there is still an update floating around for unknown sources. If I happen to get my hands on it I will post it.
That's the only reason I haven't updated the side loading part of the guide. If the update gets pushed to every phone with in the month then it would be obsolete quick. I might add it just to have the most information possible... Though I will not put this method on there, because there is no reason you should have to give something up to gain something (captivate anyone?)..
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Absolutely agreed. Your guide should be reserved for known methods that provide the desired result without sacrificing other functionality.
I really don't see what all the excitement is about, regarding this new method. I mean, side loading has been a non-issue for rooted devices from the start, now it's *officially* a non-issue, even for bone stock devices.
This new method might have been a useful workaround for stock phones before ATT changed course on sideloading, now not so much.
I followed the method to apply this update to my device when it first came out. I ran it for a few days and HATED it. So I restored back to 4.4.2 from my nandroid and all was well, except for the nag that wouldn't go away. I dealt with it for as long as I could before I had to get rid of it. I followed instructions on deleting the update file and renaming something else and then installed Autorun Manager from Play Store and made sure that com.google.android.gsf.update.SystemUpdateService$Receiver was un-checked (which strangely it already was). I rebooted my phone, and the nag was gone so I thought I was in the clear.
Well this AM I take my phone off the pad, and the battery is at 60% which is quite odd for a phone that's been charging for 9 hours, and I see that my data limit setting has been tripped! This thing used like 2 gigs of data in the background under Google Services OVERNIGHT!!! This is ridiculous! This is Android, for crying out loud... I shouldn't be forced to use an update that I didn't like! Or have to install a custom ROM for that matter, which I used to do on my phones (I loved cyanogenmod) but with GravityBox I've been able to do everything I needed to do with the stock ROM. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated, however suggesting that I disable background data for Google Services will be unacceptable considering it will break a bunch of other stuff. There's got to be a way around this. Thanks in advance!!!
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I followed the method to apply this update to my device when it first came out. I ran it for a few days and HATED it. So I restored back to 4.4.2 from my nandroid and all was well, except for the nag that wouldn't go away. I dealt with it for as long as I could before I had to get rid of it. I followed instructions on deleting the update file and renaming something else and then installed Autorun Manager from Play Store and made sure that com.google.android.gsf.update.SystemUpdateService$Receiver was un-checked (which strangely it already was). I rebooted my phone, and the nag was gone so I thought I was in the clear.
Well this AM I take my phone off the pad, and the battery is at 60% which is quite odd for a phone that's been charging for 9 hours, and I see that my data limit setting has been tripped! This thing used like 2 gigs of data in the background under Google Services OVERNIGHT!!! This is ridiculous! This is Android, for crying out loud... I shouldn't be forced to use an update that I didn't like! Or have to install a custom ROM for that matter, which I used to do on my phones (I loved cyanogenmod) but with GravityBox I've been able to do everything I needed to do with the stock ROM. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated, however suggesting that I disable background data for Google Services will be unacceptable considering it will break a bunch of other stuff. There's got to be a way around this. Thanks in advance!!!
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Out of curiosity what did you hate about 4.4.3? From a UI/UX standpoint, not much changed.
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Out of curiosity what did you hate about 4.4.3? From a UI/UX standpoint, not much changed.
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IDK if it was app incompatibilities, but I had TERRIBLE battery life and constant reboots. My device rebooted at least twice an hour. It was basically unusable. I'm no stranger to these devices and messing around with them, so I'm pretty sure it's not something I did. Normally I like to have the latest and greatest, and visually I did like the little changes. But I couldn't live with it, and I don't feel that Google should be able to nag me to upgrade and then obliterate my data allotment when I take steps to override it. Am I wrong?
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IDK if it was app incompatibilities, but I had TERRIBLE battery life and constant reboots. My device rebooted at least twice an hour. It was basically unusable. I'm no stranger to these devices and messing around with them, so I'm pretty sure it's not something I did. Normally I like to have the latest and greatest, and visually I did like the little changes. But I couldn't live with it, and I don't feel that Google should be able to nag me to upgrade and then obliterate my data allotment when I take steps to override it. Am I wrong?
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Wow that's pretty unusual... As someone who's rooted I understand how much of a pain in the ass OTAs can be, since you liked some of the changes the update brought I think you should give it another shot, though - this time by heading over to the Android Development section, finding a flashable zip of Stock ROM doing a clean install. Don't forget to make a nandroid backup though!
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Wow that's pretty unusual... As someone who's rooted I understand how much of a pain in the ass OTAs can be, since you liked some of the changes the update brought I think you should give it another shot, though - this time by heading over to the Android Development section, finding a flashable zip of Stock ROM doing a clean install. Don't forget to make a nandroid backup though!
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Maybe a good idea... when I did my upgrade, I don't think anyone had made a flashable zip of 4.4.3 yet. I guess I could give it a shot!
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Maybe a good idea... when I did my upgrade, I don't think anyone had made a flashable zip of 4.4.3 yet. I guess I could give it a shot!
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Give it a shot, there are tons of zips now, just a matter of choice. Plus if anything goes wrong, you have a backup.
btw - I'm giving you this advice because I was in a similar position when the update rolled out. I didn't want to update right away because of possible bugs. After a week if nags I flashed a zip someone put together and things have been fine since.
Either way, let me know how it goes!
Another way would be to download the 4.4.3 factory images and flash system, radio, boot. The random reboots will surely stop. I've not yet seen any app which is compatible with 4.4.2 and isn't with .3
PS: While changing android versions, I always prefer to clean install.
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Give it a shot, there are tons of zips now, just a matter of choice. Plus if anything goes wrong, you have a backup.
btw - I'm giving you this advice because I was in a similar position when the update rolled out. I didn't want to update right away because of possible bugs. After a week if nags I flashed a zip someone put together and things have been fine since.
Either way, let me know how it goes!
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Welp, I just clean-flashed the de-odexed 4.4.3 and everything is okay, so far. My device was nearly dead <20% by the time I was done flashing, so I'm gonna let it spend some time on the pad and then see if I have any issues. Keep your fingers crossed for me!
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Welp, I just clean-flashed the de-odexed 4.4.3 and everything is okay, so far. My device was nearly dead <20% by the time I was done flashing, so I'm gonna let it spend some time on the pad and then see if I have any issues. Keep your fingers crossed for me!
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I have 'em crossed tight! I hope everything works out. If you encounter any problems don't hesitate to report back here.
JT