I just heard that the other Nexus S phones (except Nexus S 4G) already got the updates, anybody know when the i9020a will get the update? Thanks you!
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Google said it will be a month before all Nexus S devices have the update so at this point all we can do is wait.
If you're feeling brave though, there are a few guides floating around saying how you can flash the i9020T (TMO) ICS OTA update on your i9020a and then flash the ATT radio back.
Thanks, but I'll just wait. I already have bad experience with getting into my phone
Damn... I have to wait another month?
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ohh nice thats cool !!
There are a number of different roms in the development forum that use 4.0.3, if you are feeling adventurous. Some of them are for all the different phones.
Yeah, but bad experience with rooting too:-( just gonna keep waiting...
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COMMON! It's already february 21st and still not updte for my i9020a fido Nexus S. Currently on 2.3.6
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Just wait a few more days... Google will be sending an OTA to all the Nexus S when Android 4.0.5 comes out in march...
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I heard March as well. This is pretty sad though...2 months...
I know...
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I heard March as well. This is pretty sad though...2 months...
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well... not really two months, more like a month and 1/4. Well even less, depending on when the update comes out. Beginning of march or later. I'm crossing my fingers: I've been waiting patiently for the update and I hope it comes in march
If Google doesn't release an ics update for Nexus S at March, I will lose my whole respect to Google and android... this is getting unfair to a lot of people.
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If Google doesn't release an ics update for Nexus S at March, I will lose my whole respect to Google and android... this is getting unfair to a lot of people.
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Agreed. I will stop buying android phones. I already bought 3 and was disapointed with them all.. Until this one.. and if google doesn't release ics I will be mad.
This is what you walk into with open source software, with the nexus line of phones, you get updates first not right away.
Its the cost of having an open platform. Its unfortunate, I like being on the cutting edge but its all about preferences. I like flashing, tinkering and messing up. This platform allows it, the other popular platform is more streamlined and closed. You get updates for all the phones once but in my opinion its lacking the tinkering factor. Also, once you go samoled, you never go back.
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This is what you walk into with open source software, with the nexus line of phones, you get updates first not right away.
Its the cost of having an open platform. Its unfortunate, I like being on the cutting edge but its all about preferences. I like flashing, tinkering and messing up. This platform allows it, the other popular platform is more streamlined and closed. You get updates for all the phones once but in my opinion its lacking the tinkering factor. Also, once you go samoled, you never go back.
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Still... I find Google to ne a little more unorganized than other companies including Microsoft....
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Still... I find Google to ne a little more unorganized than other companies including Microsoft....
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yeah. I swear if it doesn't get the update i'm chucking this phone in the garabge.. XD Well not really.. more like selling it for 100 bucks.
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Yeah, but bad experience with rooting too:-( just gonna keep waiting...
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You should have no issue with unlocking n rooting a nexus..
- Only setback would have to be, the device not being found w/ your pc. aka manually installing the samsung driver properly.
I just redid my sdk after a fresh winOS. n i always spend the most time on just this part...
Rooting the NexusLineup is are one of the simplest bootloaders to unlock.
If i'm not mistaken the whole nexus line up was built for the developing purpose n experience;...
N to answer your ICS-OTA Release for the crespo4g no matter what people tell you.
google had a setback w/ the ns4g n only this device. Cause of 'wiimax' connection issues.
I personally think google is looking for outside help rather then trying to figure it out.
But until you see the official tweet from the official nexus/google/android twitter accounts, or your unrooted device receives the ota. Then no ics rom will properly work to its full ability for our 4Gmachines!
To set record straight there was the orginal rollout for the NS4G.
People reported the issues.
Thats why they didnt continue.
This is why i only stick w/ apple.
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BLEEDCOLORYOU said:
You should have no issue with unlocking n rooting a nexus..
- Only setback would have to be, the device not being found w/ your pc. aka manually installing the samsung driver properly.
I just redid my sdk after a fresh winOS. n i always spend the most time on just this part...
Rooting the NexusLineup is are one of the simplest bootloaders to unlock.
If i'm not mistaken the whole nexus line up was built for the developing purpose n experience;...
N to answer your ICS-OTA Release for the crespo4g no matter what people tell you.
google had a setback w/ the ns4g n only this device. Cause of 'wiimax' connection issues.
I personally think google is looking for outside help rather then trying to figure it out.
But until you see the official tweet from the official nexus/google/android twitter accounts, or your unrooted device receives the ota. Then no ics rom will properly work to its full ability for our 4Gmachines!
To set record straight there was the orginal rollout for the NS4G.
People reported the issues.
Thats why they didnt continue.
This is why i only stick w/ apple.
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The thing is that I'm still on my contact and I don't wanna mess my phone up and I'm not talking about ng4g... I'm talking about Canadian version (At&t)
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The thing is that I'm still on my contact and I don't wanna mess my phone up and I'm not talking about ng4g... I'm talking about Canadian version (At&t)
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I'm floating in the same boat brooo
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Well I consider myself quite loyal to the Android platform and handset manufactures. Bought (and all SIM free) HTC Magic, Motorola Milestone, HTC Desire, Nexus One, Galaxy S, Nexus S.... now that's quite a bit of cash I have spent.
So, after deciding to settle with the Nexus range, as I do like the idea of getting a vanilla android OS, plus the latest and greatest updates.... As I did with the Nexus One.
Well I have two Nexus S's, one for me and one for the girlfriend.... so we are looking nearly 1000€ at the time of purchase.
Both handsets are the i9020 models... and both running 2.3.4
So, out pop's 2.3.5, and it's only for the Nexus S 4G ... well, OK I can live with that.
Now out pop's 2.3.6 ... and once again, or at least for the moment, nothing for the i9020 owners.
To me this is just simply wrong. Plain and simple. There are too many variants of the handset now, but as someone who generally buys on day of release I am expecting to the get the updates.
I can not believe I am alone in thinking this, but one thing is for sure I will be seriously debating purchasing the Nexus Prime or whatever it may be called in the end, if this is how OTA's will be handled.
Interested to see if anyone feels the same about this.
U do know that there just bug fixes for our phone .....y would u want an ota that has nothing to do wit ur phone ...
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There are plenty of bugs in 2.3.4 on i9020 .... most of the problem is Samsung firing out god knows how many variants of the handset. OK, with the Nexus One they had no choice due to supplies of the displays.
It should all be streamlined, not so fragmented.
There are important security patches in these updates too.
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There are important security patches in these updates too.
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Which would apply to the i9020 I assume. Also I guess the android source is on 2.3.6 now... so our handset will be not up to date.
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most of the problem is Samsung firing out god knows how many variants of the handset.
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This isn't unusual when you provide phones to multiple carriers.
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This isn't unusual when you provide phones to multiple carriers.
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Yeah OK, but if I pay good money for a SIM free and unlocked handset, which also is meant to be THE purest Android handset on the market, then WTF are we lagging on versions? Sure if they find a carrier specific error, shoot out an update and name it GR1234. But if the base Android platform is update I expect and so should everyone to get them.
You are incorrect on one thing. Is that Samsung has anything to do with Nexus updates. They don't, this is all Google. Another thing, the update just dropped like a week ago, and isn't even widespread to those who are getting it. Doing research also would of helped your cause in this case. Sprint has already announced on the support page that it's coming. You should read my article.. http://the-android-world.blogspot.com/2011/09/nexus-s-update-build-gwk15f-outed.html
You sound as bad as Fixxer did with the Nexus. Be patient... It just dropped, the fix was mostly intended for the voice search bug. Which not all Nexus S's had the issue.
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You are incorrect on one thing. Is that Samsung has anything to do with Nexus updates. They don't, this is all Google. Another thing, the update just dropped like a week ago, and isn't even widespread to those who are getting it. Doing research also would of helped your cause in this case. Sprint has already announced on the support page that it's coming. You should read my article.. http://the-android-world.blogspot.com/2011/09/nexus-s-update-build-gwk15f-outed.html
You sound as bad as Fixxer did with the Nexus. Be patient... It just dropped, the fix was mostly intended for the voice search bug. Which not all Nexus S's had the issue.
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OK some of your comments are valid. And I know fine well that Google provide the OTA's and not Samsung. Think you are missing my point tho... and it's as simple as this, there is fragmentation of the version numbers and functionality too... I'm not banging on about the baseband, but the actual OS...
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Yeah OK, but if I pay good money for a SIM free and unlocked handset, which also is meant to be THE purest Android handset on the market, then WTF are we lagging on versions? Sure if they find a carrier specific error, shoot out an update and name it GR1234. But if the base Android platform is update I expect and so should everyone to get them.
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2.3.4 was suppose to be the last Gingerbread release. 2.3.5 was for the Nexus S 4G because of network issues. 2.3.6 was for the versions experiencing the search popup bug. It would make sense that they are holding off releasing anything to the other Nexus variants until ICS is ready.
There are many more changes than just the major updates you see in the promo materials. 2.3.5 changed way more than just network stuff for NS4G. and 2.3.6 changes way more than just fixing the search popup bug.
It would be nice to get all the latest security patches and bug fixes from 2.3.6 on my T-Mobile Nexus S. BUT, I know resources are often stretched thin especially ahead of a major new release like Ice Cream Sandwich, so I am totally fine with Google putting their attention and resources on that rather than updating my Nexus S with some security patches and bug fixes that the average user will never notice.
Also, the cool thing about Android is, if you really really want 2.3.6 on your NS4G or T-Mo Nexus or Nexus One.... well go here http://source.android.com/source/initializing.html and follow the directions and you can download the 2.3.6 source and build it for any Nexus device.
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There are many more changes than just the major updates you see in the promo materials. 2.3.5 changed way more than just network stuff for NS4G. and 2.3.6 changes way more than just fixing the search popup bug.
It would be nice to get all the latest security patches and bug fixes from 2.3.6 on my T-Mobile Nexus S. BUT, I know resources are often stretched thin especially ahead of a major new release like Ice Cream Sandwich, so I am totally fine with Google putting their attention and resources on that rather than updating my Nexus S with some security patches and bug fixes that the average user will never notice.
Also, the cool thing about Android is, if you really really want 2.3.6 on your NS4G or T-Mo Nexus or Nexus One.... well go here http://source.android.com/source/initializing.html and follow the directions and you can download the 2.3.6 source and build it for any Nexus device.
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But do you not think that if you fork out for a vanilla android handset, that you should get every single update. If the source is on 2.3.6, I expect my vanilla handset to also be on that. I do not think it is too much to ask considering it is still sold and marketed as being the real google android phone.
I never had this problem with the Nexus One, and I sure as hell did not expect it with the Nexus S... I feel I have been short changed a little by Google.
Seriously CRYING for NOTHING. Take a breath and put the phone down. We will probably get the update soon. Chill out. And because of this you don't want another nexus? Have fun waiting for almost a year for updates.
Not crying for nothing. I just don't think it's fair.
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But do you not think that if you fork out for a vanilla android handset, that you should get every single update. If the source is on 2.3.6, I expect my vanilla handset to also be on that. I do not think it is too much to ask considering it is still sold and marketed as being the real google android phone.
I never had this problem with the Nexus One, and I sure as hell did not expect it with the Nexus S... I feel I have been short changed a little by Google.
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Ever try to compile your own ROM? It is very simple and Google has very detailed instructions. The most difficult part, if it is difficult is getting linux and your dev enviroment up and running. Then you can compile your own ROM from source which will add another dimension of fun to your phone
Life isnt fair little Guy. I'm sorry you have to live in such a terrible world where everyone has choice. Someday when you are old enough to vote you can try to elect someone who will force everyone to be identical and all own Motorola razrs. Until that day comes, we will be stuck here forced to suffer as we wait for a small bugfix update that was much needed for hardware that isn't the same as the phone we own. Keep those dreams alive squirt. Never lose hope!
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But do you not think that if you fork out for a vanilla android handset, that you should get every single update. If the source is on 2.3.6, I expect my vanilla handset to also be on that. I do not think it is too much to ask considering it is still sold and marketed as being the real google android phone.
I never had this problem with the Nexus One, and I sure as hell did not expect it with the Nexus S... I feel I have been short changed a little by Google.
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Do you cry when your girlfriend gets the OTA notification before you do? Its not fair! Why does she get it first? They activated my phone before hers!
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Rem3Dy said:
Do you cry when your girlfriend gets the OTA notification before you do? Its not fair! Why does she get it first? They activated my phone before hers!
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Wow, you really are a total prick... but then again, I guess you can not afford SIM free and are roped into a contract.
Grow some pubes.
As one person stated there are changes and bug fixes that would also benefit i9020 owners, you know, the ones who can afford to splash out cash on handsets.
Finally you jumped up little spunk stain, I've never installed via OTA, I just grab the download link and slap it on as an update.zip
Rem3Dy said:
Do you cry when your girlfriend gets the OTA notification before you do? Its not fair! Why does she get it first? They activated my phone before hers!
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Wow, you really are a total prick... but then again, I guess you can not afford SIM free and are roped into a contract.
Grow some pubes.
As one person stated there are changes and bug fixes that would also benefit i9020 owners, you know, the ones who can afford to splash out cash on handsets.
Finally you jumped up little spunk stain, I've never installed via OTA, I just grab the download link and slap it on as an update.zip
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It's been entertaining gentlemen, but please take it to PM if you wish to continue.
There was only one true "nexus" phone and that was the Nexus One. Google is now bright eyed about the making money from hardware business. Expect them to fold like a house of cards to the carriers in the US.
Dems the breaks.
(this is why nobody should support cdma phones)
Huh at&t or google screwing us over already one of the two lol. We don't even have official gingerbread and there getting ready to release this? Wow!
http://www.redmondpie.com/android-j...r-android-with-game-changing-features-report/
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Hey bro, how does this equal "Google screwing us?" ATT's the one to blame for us not having an official Gingerbread OTA drop.
EDIT: Better yet, I'm going to find you in IRC
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Hey bro, how does this equal "Google screwing us?" ATT's the one to blame for us not having an official Gingerbread OTA drop.
EDIT: Better yet, I'm going to find you in IRC
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.......infuse.....Infused....infusion.........
Some people lack common sense.lol but ya dude..its all AT&T not google..
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Nowhere in the posted article does it say that Jellybean is "about to be released."
It's almost comical that they are referring to another release when ICS hasn't even been released.
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It's almost comical that they are referring to another release when ICS hasn't even been released.
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Rumor has it. ICS is gonna be release in October with the nexus (droid)prime
Android kicks apples ass.. Infused 2.1.0
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Nowhere in the posted article does it say that Jellybean is "about to be released."
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Ok there Guy could be early as next month but mostly points at October or November. We don't need a bunch of doctor Phil's In here trying to correct everything. Lol funny. Just read the post and leave it be.
But Google is comical they don't even have other things fixes but they are trying to release more. Im glad they are staying in the fastlane but they need to kick ATT in gear and fix other issues then release new stuff.
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I blame Samsung and not AT&T. My Atrix we updated twice within 2 months of it coming out.
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ATT definitely needs to get on the bandwagon with the Infuse, my Atrix got Gingerbread pretty quick. Not sure what the big deal is.
I hate to say it guys but get used to it. ATT is terrible with updates. Each phone may get one major update and thats about it. Any of you that have been in the smartphone world for a while will know this. Hell sometimes ATT wont push any updates for a phone at all.
I mean think about it. A phone is termed EOL after 4 months of ATT releasing it.
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I hate to say it guys but get used to it. ATT is terrible with updates. Each phone may get one major update and thats about it. Any of you that have been in the smartphone world for a while will know this. Hell sometimes ATT wont push any updates for a phone at all.
I mean think about it. A phone is termed EOL after 4 months of ATT releasing it.
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I know its just crazy you would of figured this phone being 4g lol would have been perfect opportunity to run newer faster system
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I know its just crazy you would of figured this phone being 4g lol would have been perfect opportunity to run newer faster system
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T-Mobile was bad with updates except with the Nexus S.
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Samsung or ATT?
We don't know who is holding up the update, do we? It could be either Samsung or ATT. It's so frustrating that Ice Cream Sandwich is supposed to be released within the next few months and Infuse owners don't even have Gingerbread yet.
its the captivate all over again, over emphasis on updates(2.2 works fine for me), and a carrier that doesn't care about updates. why make the infuse their flagship and not push samsung to update it? i mean motorola got the atrix updated and att doesnt push that phone as hard, htc also got the inspire updated, att doesnt give a dan about that phone. but i really think it is samsung who wants to push updates only after a new device is released (sgs2!) and only because they want the new device to look beter the the "old" one
Bottom line here is simple: don't ever buy hardware in anticipation of future software releases (with the exception of a Nexus device). Once the device is sold the manufacturer really has no obligations to ever have anything to do with it again except for warranty services.
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Ok there Guy could be early as next month but mostly points at October or November.
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Reread the first paragraph, Tyshemi. Ice cream sandwich will be released in Oct/November. Jelly Bean will be released AFTER that, and if you go by Google's usual schedule, it would probably be around February.
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Reread the first paragraph, Tyshemi. Ice cream sandwich will be released in Oct/November. Jelly Bean will be released AFTER that, and if you go by Google's usual schedule, it would probably be around February.
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Doesn't matter when really a month two months its the fact that phone released at the same time as ours have seen nice updates and dome even two updates since launch. Its the fact that this was a eye opener for ATT you know a "look at me " phone that's going to need a time machine to catch up.
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All I see is too many phones coming, that the ave user will miss out on, because they are stuck on a 2 year contract, lol not everyone can afford to blow 300 plus every few months on the something new,
Truth be told I have an atrix ( which I love, great little workhorse ) and a infuse coming monday, Also have a droid incredible, and a inspire, and a few others laying around,
But the funny thing they all do the same thing, just some slightly faster than the other, etc.. right now even the droid incredible/nexus 1 still is plenty fast for gingerbread... and does everything those new dual core beasts can do.. for me its gonna boil down to design and the screen, much like when i used to shop for a pc/laptop.. <----hardly use those anymore, too. my 2 year old asus still runs like a champ. guess my point,. is choose what you like. dont get caught up in specs and hype. ..
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hey guys although i havent find nothing online that said so but a seen a few people talking about it in threats and even a tmobile sales men told me that there suppost to be a another ota for the g2x. some people thinks its gonna be 2.3.4 and have the LG Camera in it?
im just wanted to pass this along
and i will appreciate no hateful comments against LG/Tmobile.
we have this phone and we just go from there
Well, we're getting ICS either way thanks to Cyanogen... But it would be nice if LG and T-Mobile still showed some love for our phones!
I kind of doubt we will see another OTA update anytime soon but if we do great.
T mobile is all about the Sensation and Galaxy S 2, and LG has had enough if this fiasco of a phone. Cyanogen is the only hope of this ever getting another update, of any flavor.
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i hope this is true since i don't root my phones
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i guess you guys are right!! i just cant understand when tmobile gave my friend from tmobile tech support a g2x with gingebread for test when the g2x came out!
it was 2.3.4 and their ota its 2.3.3 i talked to my friend today to see if he heard anything of another ota for the g2x. he said no he hasnt heard anything and pretty much they have forgotten or given up with the g2x.
my opinion on this is if this phone isnt going to be that much of a deal to companies. well i thing NVIDIA should release their drivers to the devs!!!
and another thing this is suppost to be a GOOGLE phone! why google aint doing nothing!
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and another thing this is suppost to be a GOOGLE phone! why google aint doing nothing!
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Look here to find your answer: http://tinyurl.com/3pshom4!!!
New rule: Anyone who posts a LMGTFY link gets their fingers chewed off by drunken chimpanzees.
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Look here to find your answer: http://tinyurl.com/3pshom4!!!
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and you have to be a jerk to a person that is just asking a question why.
maybe i should google that too.
The guy makes good points and is upset he threw his money away you have to add to that by being a jerk?
If the "OTA" is going to be 2.3.4, it's going to be outdated. We've been on 2.3.5<-- for almost 2 months now. (Well, with CM7, EB, Faux123, MIUI, etc.)
well that would be nice to see 2.3.4 at least.. maybe they can make the damn 4g icon and signal bars green like gingerbread is suppose to be. then give us the lg cam back then hopefully give us gtalk with video chat.. since skype hates tegra 2's and wont support are phones.. i shouldnt have to root my phone to get things that should just work with a stock rom.
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well that would be nice to see 2.3.4 at least.. maybe they can make the damn 4g icon and signal bars green like gingerbread is suppose to be. then give us the lg cam back then hopefully give us gtalk with video chat.. since skype hates tegra 2's and wont support are phones.. i shouldnt have to root my phone to get things that should just work with a stock rom.
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I guess you're right
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If the "OTA" is going to be 2.3.4, it's going to be outdated. We've been on 2.3.5<-- for almost 2 months now. (Well, with CM7, EB, Faux123, MIUI, etc.)
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Nexus One just updated today via OTA to 2.3.6. Hopefully LG skips a few versions and catches up if they issue another update.
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Nexus One just updated today via OTA to 2.3.6. Hopefully LG skips a few versions and catches up if they issue another update.
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thats what im saying!!! Nexus One or Nexus S are google phones thats why they get updates first but the g2x its a google phone too! so WTF
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thats what im saying!!! Nexus One or Nexus S are google phones thats why they get updates first but the g2x its a google phone too! so WTF
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It's not a google phone.
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It's not a google phone.
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Correct, it's just with google on the back of the phone like the G2. Only Google phones made are the nexus line.
Hell will freeze over before this phone gets another official update. If you wont root and update it yourself but are savvy enough to use xda you have no one to blame but yourself.
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The difference is that the devices in the Google Nexus line have their roms developed by Google engineers. Other devices must rely on the respective manufacturer to update them. On the Nexus line Google also pushes out the OTA themselves and never takes them down like T-Mobile did for the G2X. That was lame. Why not keep the OTA on your servers forever like Google does. Plus Google lets anyone get the OTA on any carrier. TMO limited it to people connected to their network (not even MVNOs) only. Since Google does their testing of new versions of Android on their own Nexus line, new roms get pushed out pretty darn fast. Soon, alas, they are going to declare the venerable Nexus One end of life (EOL) and stop providing roms for it. It might get ICS but we'll have to wait and see.
But the G2X is a great phone and the differences between 2.3.3 and 2.3.4 and 2.3.6 are so minimal there is nothing really to be upset about. No O2X worldwide has even gotten any official versions of GB yet, so you can be thankful, for once, that the US is a litigious society and the class action forced LG to release GB before they planned to. But now that they did, any future versions are questionable. LG doesn't have a good record of updating phones very often or very quickly.
i almost got to the point where i was gonna trade my g2x for a nexus s just because its a google phone and i know it will always be updated fast. but its hard to down grade from the g2xs nice specs
s10shane said:
i almost got to the point where i was gonna trade my g2x for a nexus s just because its a google phone and i know it will always be updated fast. but its hard to down grade from the g2xs nice specs
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I'd much rather keep my G2X, even if it was still on 2.2, rather than trade for a Nexus S. Keep your G2X.
HTC just tweeted, "ICS for thunderbolt is coming soon..."
About time. Thunderbolt needs new life breathed into it. Can't wait for this!
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HTC just tweeted, "ICS for thunderbolt is coming soon..."
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Lol you must have read my other post. They have been saying this since July mind you. Don't get your hopes up to high yet. Verizon can always shoot it down.
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I was under the impression that Verizon already had HTC's ICS. It is Verizon that is not releasing the software.
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HTC has been posting that same twitter reply since they was testing the test build back in April lol.
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Bout time, cant really find a phone that with a better radio and easy of use rootwise than the tb plus the darn thing will run any app and setting I toss at it.
If they only would hurry up and updrade it or shut up and admit that they built a monster that they cannot code for.
Its okay to admit failure you f'ing retards. Its the first phone of its kind and you were not prepared for it. (i.e. HateTC and VZW)
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ICS = Inadequate Customer Support
Of course they have happily provided that to TBolt owners for almost 2 years now.
Yes I still rock the Thunderbolt. You gotta problem with that?
http://www.droid-life.com/2012/12/1...-ice-cream-sandwich-update-will-be-here-soon/
Mind you i dont think there ar emany left in the thunderbolt area, but i cant wait to see it.
If an update doesn't come within a year of Google releasing it, it shouldn't count as an update.
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Lol you must have read my other post. They have been saying this since July mind you. Don't get your hopes up to high yet. Verizon can always shoot it down.
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That is certainly true but I also suspect that HTC wouldn't bother devoting any resources to developing s/w for a phone if a carrier has even a remote chance of shooting it down.
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That is certainly true but I also suspect that HTC wouldn't bother devoting any resources to developing s/w for a phone if a carrier has even a remote chance of shooting it down.
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I remember a few months ago there were rumors htc finished the build and was waiting on Verizon's approval.
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If you call HTC they mostly say Verizon has it. Then if you call Verizon they say waiting on HTC.
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Was the leak from ihtfp69 (TeamBamf) legitimate ? It was real nice other than the suck-the-life-out-of-battery kernel it had.
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Was the leak from ihtfp69 (TeamBamf) legitimate ? It was real nice other than the suck-the-life-out-of-battery kernel it had.
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From what I understand it is but the build was a very incomplete rom.
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Not before the end of the world!
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Was the leak from ihtfp69 (TeamBamf) legitimate ? It was real nice other than the suck-the-life-out-of-battery kernel it had.
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My understanding, right or wrong, was that HTC/VZW released some T-Bolts with an ICS "soak test" to around maybe 100 people? I applied too late to get in on it. The phone came with an NDA that apparently was almost iron clad as there were NO leaks at all until after the test ended and the test phones were returned.
It's my belief that the TeamBAMF leak was from one of those phones, someone may have copied it to his/her/it's PC and leaked it AFTER the test had closed and AFTER he/she/it had learned how to remove the identifying bits so that he/she/it wouldn't be subject to enforcement of the NDA.
I may be wrong, the above is merely pieced together from what I've read here and elsewhere.
FWIW, I ran the leak and had the usual short battery life BUT..... Later I restored the backup I'd made and, after a couple of days, the battery life improved a huge amount, it became about the same as other ICS ROMS.
As always, YMMV.
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From what I understand it is but the build was a very incomplete rom.
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They probably had the same issues as the devs did and can't figure it out but it's on the back burner and not forgotten. I hope
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At this point, I would be pretty surprised if ICS was released at all. I found that ICS, combined with Sense 4, is too much for the phone to handle smoothly. And I'm sure it would be worse when the typical Verizon bloat is added. Some work could probably be done to make it smoother and more power efficient, but I don't think that struggling HTC has any motivation to expend development resources on a phone that's rapidly approaching its second birthday.
Most Thunderbolt owners are able to upgrade now, or at least will be in the next couple months. Most people probably will -- and might even get a DNA. At least that's what HTC hopes!
I blame HTC for turning their backs on their customers and I will never buy another HTC product. They probably won't be around much longer anyway.
They have promised ICS for the Bolt several times before. I got tired of waiting, upgraded to Droid Maxx HD. 3 days after buying it Verizon pushed out Jelly Bean. Wow it was nice to actually get an update that fast!!!!
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Most Thunderbolt owners are able to upgrade now, or at least will be in the next couple months. Most people probably will -- and might even get a DNA. At least that's what HTC hopes!
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If they wanted me to get a DNA they'd have given it a removable battery and an SD card slot, as it is it's totally useless to me.
Most custom rom flashers seem to last 6 mobths on a particular phone. The first bunch defected to the the Note 2 and the last bunch to the Galaxy S4.
Now i feel like i a droid charge owner after the galaxy nexus release. :thumbdown:
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Did you see hyperdrive just had a major update? I admit it has slowed down but we still have a few options left.
Also beans is going to update (if it hasn't already)
There is also a wip for sense 5 for our phones.
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What is the purpose of this thread? Nobody, not a dev nor any "regular" user, owes anything in the form of continued updates for customized software. Technology advances and phones improve very quickly. It's been a year since release and most roms have already improved upon what Samsung put out. AOSP takes the reins about a year after a phones release since that's the time when the OEM stops pushing OTAs. AOSP sees continued updates whereas OEM firmware sees fewer updates.
So I ask, what feature or function are you unable or wanting to use that our phone hardware can support?
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Most older phones still see development via AOSP roms. The last time I checked samsung is still developing updates on this phone.
Idk about any further, but we'll see 4.2.2 tw for sure I think. I believe I read they're working on it but delayed. Dev work has been better with this than my old phone(droid 3).
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What is the purpose of this thread? Nobody, not a dev nor any "regular" user, owes anything in the form of continued updates for customized software. Technology advances and phones improve very quickly. It's been a year since release and most roms have already improved upon what Samsung put out. AOSP takes the reins about a year after a phones release since that's the time when the OEM stops pushing OTAs. AOSP sees continued updates whereas OEM firmware sees fewer updates.
So I ask, what feature or function are you unable or wanting to use that our phone hardware can support?
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a little bit of this
jmxc23 said:
Most older phones still see development via AOSP roms. The last time I checked samsung is still developing updates on this phone.
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a little bit of that
My phone runs way faster then my friend's S4...
Reaching perfection is a bad thing?
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I personally don't feel the sg4 is worth the upgrade, it should be called the sg3+
not too mention it's getting locked down hard..
That is the primary reason why people are still buying the S3.
Yes. Go buy an s4 asap. Development is currently sky rocketing...
Like others have said, this is an unnecessary thread. A bunch of AOSP roms have active nightlies and several TW roms are also being updated. The problem with TW roms are that once you get everything put into them, there's not much more you can do. The code is based off Samsung source so everything is already there. the only thing there is to do is rebase when a new ota comes out.
Go try out an AOSP rom. They really run well on the s3.
Lol AOSP is still booming on the HTC incredible 2. I think that we'll see stuff for much longer since the inc2 with as old and outdated as it is, its still rocking over there.
I'm loving this phone, there's something new everyday for it.
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I wouldn't be surprised if most the devs sell their s4s due to the fact root is now broken and the boot loader is unable to be unlocked.
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All I have to say is we need to stick together. I think the biggest reason development slows is when the community stops responding to the forums. The people are there but get bored and no longer respond to the development provided even though they take advantage of the development. When the community stops responding the development slows down because developers no longer feel the demand. So if your out there respond and keep things flowing! I posted a thread with a script for CM10 on friday. 200 people looked at it without so much as a "this script sucks" or one "thanks". Maybe nobody cares about that thread I don't know, but when you post and nobody responds you kind of feel like why bother. IMO it's the communities responsibility to keep development going. Not the developers! So if you have something on you mind post it. Let's keep things moving and stick together!
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All I have to say is we need to stick together. I think the biggest reason development slows is when the community stops responding to the forums. The people are there but get bored and no longer respond to the development provided even though they take advantage of the development. When the community stops responding the development slows down because developers no longer feel the demand. So if your out there respond and keep things flowing! I posted a thread with a script for CM10 on friday. 200 people looked at it without so much as a "this script sucks" or one "thanks". Maybe nobody cares about that thread I don't know, but when you post and nobody responds you kind of feel like why bother. IMO it's the communities responsibility to keep development going. Not the developers! So if you have something on you mind post it. Let's keep things moving and stick together!
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THIS . very well said sir. :good:
The HTC One may slow down development when it comes, I for one will be getting that phone. I will still be keeping my SG3 tho. (will be the first phone I actually keep rather than sell to buy new phone, I really love this phone)
It was the Galaxy S III community - and its massive, relevant history + recent topics here - which gave me enough how-tos, tools + what-if ideas that led to my:
1. Bringing a relative's phone back from a watery death
2. Rooting + installing a custom recovery on the resurrected, stock and locked phone - despite it no longer accepting touch screen input (i.e., hardware short was evident on the display connector across at least two pins)
3. Pulling 1.5 years of photos and videos + app settings from the partially crippled phone, making its owner rather ecstatic
It was an AT&T GSIII, but it information - much of it active threads - gleaned across the XDA Galaxy S III provider topics helped me finally do the above.
Heck, when I gave away my HTC Droid Incredible not long ago, even that model still had active ROM development happening.
- ooofest
ricecake2000 said:
I wouldn't be surprised if most the devs sell their s4s due to the fact root is now broken and the boot loader is unable to be unlocked.
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Don't be so quick on that. The HTC Rezound bootloader was locked down pretty good and there was a way around that albeit it involved an insulated wire trick along with software. I wouldn't put anything past these guys just yet.
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djwalter said:
Don't be so quick on that. The HTC Rezound bootloader was locked down pretty good and there was a way around that albeit it involved an insulated wire trick along with software. I wouldn't put anything past these guys just yet.
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Ah yes but they did kill the droid x. I can assume we may see an update that will do the same. So watch out.
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Just don't ever take an ota, problem solved.
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djwalter said:
Don't be so quick on that. The HTC Rezound bootloader was locked down pretty good and there was a way around that albeit it involved an insulated wire trick along with software. I wouldn't put anything past these guys just yet.
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Yessir that would be me who did the testing for the Rezound for S-OFF with the Unlimited.IO crew