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Hey all, first post here. Currently I'm interested in the Rogers Galaxy S Captivate (seem to be a million different versions of the galaxy which is quite confusing). Beyond a few basic reviews/unboxings I can't really find much information on this phone. Without doing a long drawn out post I'll cut to my questions quick (I apologize if I'm posting this in the wrong forum and the noobish questions):
- What are peoples general experiences with this phone? Loves and hates?
- Froyo support, is there an official Froyo build from rogers or is it limited to 3rd party ROMs etc?
- When it comes to 3rd party ROMs etc, just how mod-able is this phone?
- Is WiFi tethering possible/available with a 3rd party ROM?
Thanks ahead of time.
1) random shutdown issue with one of my phones. GPS problem with second. Third was fine (GPS/no shutdowns) but the build is "creaky". GPS is really fast and accurate and no problems. Battery lasts decent, depends how much you have the screen on for. Right now I can last 4 hours on idle with wifi/3G on and lose maybe 1%. Of course, nothing is really going on.
2-4 No clue yet. Haven't flashed. Kind of waiting for Froyo release from Rogers.
bought a captivate directly from rogers the day it came out off-contract. GPS worked perfectly, even weeks after, navigation and all still locked fast and accurately. However, as far as I am concerned, the 2.2 froyo release by rogers is still not out..so i rooted the phone through download mode with a .zip (took 5 seconds), and since then, have flashed every rom you could imagine. All running great, the phone has restart once..randomly, but other then that, battery life and all has been super good. Haven't had any problems, so i'd say it's pretty good if you have any more specific questions, feel free to ask. and btw, wifi tethering is possible, at least with froyo on any of the main 3rd party roms.
Wifi tethering was in stock rom just so you know. Go into wifi settings
I think you should be okay since you're getting it much later than most other people... I think I'm included as well. I had the shutdown problem but a factory reset fixed it, so I think it was just a software issue on my end. GPS is still spotty, works great and accurately but sometimes doesn't. I also have the slight problem with search popping up randomly, but I am not too bothered by that.
Otherwise it's fine, I love this phone. Everyone is so intrigued when I pull it out.
xnoctis93 said:
bought a captivate directly from rogers the day it came out off-contract. GPS worked perfectly, even weeks after, navigation and all still locked fast and accurately. However, as far as I am concerned, the 2.2 froyo release by rogers is still not out..so i rooted the phone through download mode with a .zip (took 5 seconds), and since then, have flashed every rom you could imagine. All running great, the phone has restart once..randomly, but other then that, battery life and all has been super good. Haven't had any problems, so i'd say it's pretty good if you have any more specific questions, feel free to ask. and btw, wifi tethering is possible, at least with froyo on any of the main 3rd party roms.
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Thanks a lot. In your opinion, what's the best 2.2 ROM? One I've heard mentioned the most is Cognition.
desmopilot said:
- What are peoples general experiences with this phone? Loves and hates?
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In general, the phone is really quite good. The Rogers stock GPS doesn't have the issues that the AT&T GPS appears to have, but the modem is HSDPA not HSUPA so upload speed is limited to around 300-400 Kbps and download is limited to around 5Mbps max). Rogers also don't put on a load of bloatware which is really quite nice. Stock Rogers phone even comes with tethering enabled (USB or WiFi using MyAP). With my phone I can't really say I had any "Hates"..a few minor annoyances, such as
- the contact groups (in stock) never syncs the Google Groups
- the calendar app has no "conference call" option, I had this on my OpenEtna phone
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- Froyo support, is there an official Froyo build from rogers or is it limited to 3rd party ROMs etc?
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No official Froyo support as yet. Rogers saying early 2011. Froyo is only available in custom ROMs based on a leaked ROM and now also based on the GT-i9000 (e.g. Galaxy S "Vibrant" from Bell...as well as some stuff from the Telus "Fascinate" too), as there are official Froyo builds for that (which are not without their own problems too).
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- When it comes to 3rd party ROMs etc, just how mod-able is this phone?
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Very easy, particularly from rogers as they have not prevented you from loading software in any way, so you can simply download z4root or oclf or the like, directly to your phone from it's browser and run it locally to root your phone. There are a few ways to install the ROMs but they are mostly detailed in their own announcement threads and pretty much cover the bases. There is also a ROM installer HowTo in the QnA or Question section of the Samsung Captivate forum.
- Is WiFi tethering possible/available with a 3rd party ROM?
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Almost all ROMs yes...and also in Rogers stock.
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Thanks a lot. In your opinion, what's the best 2.2 ROM? One I've heard mentioned the most is Cognition.
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All of the ROMs that the Chefs put out are really quite good. It mostly comes dow to a personal preference. One thing to be aware of is the ROM limitations. These are usually listed in their announce thread too:
Note that if you want HSUPA (up to 5.6 Mbps up/7.4 Mbps down) then you need one of the i9000 based modems. You can often put different modems from different ROMs into your own phone, but there are some limitations. The modem should come from the same build (e.g. don't put a 2.1 modem in a 2.2 ROM), some modems are HSDPA only (e.g. the Rogers and AT&T based ones) and that the modem bin is used for more than modem processing, it appears to be used in DSP so it affects that voice call handling. With some modems as a result, you may not be heard on a voice call..so test. It's not to big a deal as you can easily swap out a modem for another.
Cogntion and Perception are ROMs both by DesignGears. I liked them both but couldn't get the combination of features I wanted (which they NOW have) and I couldn't get hold of DesignGears to provide me with his set-up for compiling the kernal (one of the few chefs that compiles his own kernels...most use kernels from other people). To my thinking Perception is more "active" than Cognition leading to cognition being (considered by some) more stable...but it's just a matter of preference. I think that Cognition is not capable of HSUPA but Perception is...though withough checking I may have that the wrong way around.
Axura 2.5 is what I am currently running, though there will be no more development on the "old" Axura because AdamHolden, the latest Axura chef received too many negative comments for his liking and quit. He is starting a new ROM with a team rather than as an individual (see here).
I hear good comments about Assonance, but haven't tried it since using Axura as it fit all my needs.
There are also many others. Just take a browse through the "Captivate Android Development" forum and you will see a number of [ROM] threads. Take a quick read of atleast the first 3-4 posts on the thread as those are used to identify the current version, features, state and issues.
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- What are peoples general experiences with this phone? Loves and hates?
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I love my SGS. Feels very snappy with some tweaking and a different launcher, battery life is 24-48 hours with average usage (again with some settings tweaks). No GPS or Shutdown issues on my side and I bought the phone when it was first available. A few people at my work have the phone and I've heard no issues with it at all. One tiny issue I have seen is that some texts seem to come in with an incorrect time stamp. They seem to be about 5 hours off. This can be easily fixed with a simple app so I don't even think about it anymore.
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- Froyo support, is there an official Froyo build from rogers or is it limited to 3rd party ROMs etc?
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As has been mentioned before, no Froyo yet but that's pretty standard for Rogers. On the plus side there is a Gingerbread ROM being made which looks very sexy in the I9000 forums by supercurio and others.
desmopilot said:
- When it comes to 3rd party ROMs etc, just how mod-able is this phone?
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I rooted my phone in a matter of minutes with z4 root, very simple, one click. I have tried to lag fix my device using oclf but it failed. I know it's not the phone though since a friend of mine has the same phone and his works great. If you like quadrant stats, he's right up there. I personally haven't used any ROM's yet but I will be in the near future. From what I can see there are a lot of ROM's available and it seems like a pretty simple process.
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- Is WiFi tethering possible/available with a 3rd party ROM?
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Haven't bothered, I don't need it so I don't know.
I definitely recommend this phone
No issues for a (relatively) simple user that just wants froyo. Love how un-branded rogers left this phone compared to my SE dumbphones and whatnot.
Never tried thethering (as i have no idea how much data i have left)
GPS Test gets a lock within 15 or so seconds with 50ft accuracy (lowers down to around 30 after a bit)
I think i had one of the newer batches (purchased from corporate - early December)
Thanks a lot for the replies all! Looks like i'll be hopping one the Captivate wagon pretty soon.
nevermind, my mistake.
The Captivate is amazing with Rogers, my wife and I both have one and they are fast, solid build, and just a joy to use.
If you want to see a video of mine, just search on youtube "gunstar1981"
Its a really great phone, hope you get yours soon!
Ok, I was an early adopter of this phone bought it the day it came out July 18th. There are a great many things that disappoint me about this phone, main thing being lack of Froyo at the moment. I'm tired of waiting for samsung, I have little faith it will truely resolve my issues which are the following
In order to use wifi I must reboot my phone, this only occurred after the official JH7 was loaded on it through the over the air update that ATT did.
Constantly having lag all the time, and having apps running that I never ever use and dont want such as ATT Navigator, ATT Family Map, etc. I was able to root the phone and get rid of those but it really hasnt helped.
My stereo bluetooth headphones must be paired EVERY single time I want to use them, its not the headphones because they work perfectly with 4 other devices.
Of course the GPS, it sucks for everyone, any of these or all fix that? Samsung seems unwilling.
So maybe I'm wishing too much but I've watched almost every youtube review of the ROMs that are out there and theres a few details that stick out for things that I want in a rom so I'll detail them here and hopefully someone can point me in the right direction as to which one has the best combo.
1. froyo based, I need 2.2 for certain apps
2. I've heard theres different modems that can affect HSPA, I want fastest download and upload.
3. No wild color schemes, I dont like orange or green. I quite like the look of the phone I think samsung did a great job with the touchwiz and I know theres alot of you out there that perfer the "vanilla" versions of Android. I'm not one of those people. I really loved the look of the cognition rom and some of the things it had visually.
4. Overclocking would be nice but not at the expense of battery life, I'm right in the 24-30 hour range just as most are on here, better would be great if possible.
Go to romkitchen.org and build your own there. There are many threads about the advantages of one modem over another, and you can pick pretty much everything yourself. Then search for CLShortfuse's GPS fix and you'll be set.
Don't worry, its extremely easy
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24-30 hours of what kind of use? There are a couple roms out there with stock appearance
Cognition
Perception
Precision
Andromeda
Docs
30 hours, you have to consider what you are asking. I want faster dl, no lag, better gps, but I don't want to eat any more battery. It is possible to get 30hrs of light to moderate use. Heavy use will yield 12-18
Andromeda v1.2 is a rom that is pretty vanilla....simple and has the things your looking for. You have to try roms that you think will be what you want.
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Ok, I was an early adopter of this phone bought it the day it came out July 18th. There are a great many things that disappoint me about this phone, main thing being lack of Froyo at the moment. I'm tired of waiting for samsung, I have little faith it will truely resolve my issues which are the following
In order to use wifi I must reboot my phone, this only occurred after the official JH7 was loaded on it through the over the air update that ATT did.
Constantly having lag all the time, and having apps running that I never ever use and dont want such as ATT Navigator, ATT Family Map, etc. I was able to root the phone and get rid of those but it really hasnt helped.
My stereo bluetooth headphones must be paired EVERY single time I want to use them, its not the headphones because they work perfectly with 4 other devices.
Of course the GPS, it sucks for everyone, any of these or all fix that? Samsung seems unwilling.
So maybe I'm wishing too much but I've watched almost every youtube review of the ROMs that are out there and theres a few details that stick out for things that I want in a rom so I'll detail them here and hopefully someone can point me in the right direction as to which one has the best combo.
1. froyo based, I need 2.2 for certain apps
2. I've heard theres different modems that can affect HSPA, I want fastest download and upload.
3. No wild color schemes, I dont like orange or green. I quite like the look of the phone I think samsung did a great job with the touchwiz and I know theres alot of you out there that perfer the "vanilla" versions of Android. I'm not one of those people. I really loved the look of the cognition rom and some of the things it had visually.
4. Overclocking would be nice but not at the expense of battery life, I'm right in the 24-30 hour range just as most are on here, better would be great if possible.
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Andromeda v1.2 is a rom that is pretty vanilla....simple and has the things your looking for.
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+2 for Andromeda 1.2.
You can fix all of these if you root the phone. The best ROM out there is the Rom Kitchen (aka "Doc's ROMs") over at romkitchen.org. You can "cook up" your own ROMs using the specifications you want. This is what is so great about the ROM kitchen, especially when compared to the other ROMs like Cognition: you can pick what you want, and don't have to take whatever it was that someone else decided was best. For example, if you want the benefits of rooting but want to keep touchwiz, the ROM kitchen has an option for that. It also lets you pick things like the theme, boot animation, apps, etc. There are 5 captivate modems, and you might just have to experiment to see which one is best. I did this, and it was well worth it. The one that worked best for me was the XXJPP modem. Just load a seperate ROM with each of the different modems, flash each, and download a few things to see which is faster. Also check and see how well the GPS works on each.
Rooting will fix the lag, although one of the ROM kitchen kernels (Glitterball's Voodoo) will improve it even further. There is something called "Project Voodoo" which is a community of developers who build a kernel tweak called Voodoo which completely fixes the remaining lag issue (this is caused by the inefficient way the captivate organizes its folders), and also improves a few other features such as resolution.
You should go try out my ROM its small and fast and stable. I'm getting great battery life and DL/UL speeds. Give it a shot.
Here.
Well I decided to go with the serendipity 5.9, I love the speed, my upload and download speeds almost doubled, bluetooth and wifi finally work like they are supposed to!!
I do have a few complaints though, like the keyboard for texting, I loved the samsung one, I hate swipe any way i can get the stock one back on there?
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Well I decided to go with the serendipity 5.9, I love the speed, my upload and download speeds almost doubled, bluetooth and wifi finally work like they are supposed to!!
I do have a few complaints though, like the keyboard for texting, I loved the samsung one, I hate swipe any way i can get the stock one back on there?
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Use the add on kitchen and add samsung keyboard. download zip and flash.
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I do have a few complaints though, like the keyboard for texting, I loved the samsung one, I hate swipe any way i can get the stock one back on there?
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It comes with the Gingerbread keyboard as well.
However, if you're still interested in the Samsung keyboard, it's in here:
http://serendipityrom.weebly.com/add-ons.html
I just found that, wow, short of having a flash on the camera and video chat this phone is now everything I could have ever dreamed of
Holy crap what a difference. Everything actually works and is super fast. I would be on cloud nine right now except for the fact I'm probably soon getting the Atrix, this will def hold me over till then.
Im using Precision 3.5 with the monochrome 3.5 theme. Its running the latest suckerpunch kernel. For sure my favorite combo I've tried so far. Its really amazing, not to mention dev'd by ryude, who is one of the best!
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Samsung Captivate running Serendipity 5.12 Paragon6 1200-100hz (uv'd and slightly oc'd) and I9000XXJVE modem. Almost have it edited/themed up how I want it. Need to get started on custom icons and I think I want to try my hand at a completely custom framework. Anyway, I was perfectly happy with 'dipity out of the box, but since I've flashed Paragon this phone is AMAZING. It's quite fast and the battery seems to last forever. Just now recharging for the first cycle after having to reflash my rom w/o a full battery, so after today I'll know for sure how long the battery last, but initially it seems like I'll get a day or so with my daughter constantly playing video's and games all day.
I have tried the team phoenix roms. I'm currently running phoenix 7.0 and am happy so far.
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I am running phoenix. 7 with latest paragon 1200 rom using uv and this is by far the best combo I have had yet. Using jl3 modem and call quality is great. I change roms almost daily and this one will be here for a while, I am happy with everything this combo has to offer and speed and battery life is excellent.
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Samsung Captivate running Serendipity 5.12 Paragon6 1200-100hz (uv'd and slightly oc'd) and I9000XXJVE modem. Almost have it edited/themed up how I want it. Need to get started on custom icons and I think I want to try my hand at a completely custom framework. Anyway, I was perfectly happy with 'dipity out of the box, but since I've flashed Paragon this phone is AMAZING. It's quite fast and the battery seems to last forever. Just now recharging for the first cycle after having to reflash my rom w/o a full battery, so after today I'll know for sure how long the battery last, but initially it seems like I'll get a day or so with my daughter constantly playing video's and games all day.
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...How quickly things change, now running Serendipity 6 with all the above still the same.. although I think I may flash the 1400 Paragon and try that out..
just went up to Serendipity 6.2 yesterday, same battery issues again im trying to do what I did last time to fix that part
busy day though, just got an ipad last night been trying to ha0xr that thing, no luck on jailbreaking 4.3 yet though
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just went up to Serendipity 6.2 yesterday, same battery issues again im trying to do what I did last time to fix that part
busy day though, just got an ipad last night been trying to ha0xr that thing, no luck on jailbreaking 4.3 yet though
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14:25:12 uptime, moderate use and I'm t 70%
I guess every phone is different...
im still working through my first charge after wiping the battery stats so im sure it will be better once I cycle through
In those screen shots posted how did you get those multiple icons at the bottom? i mean other than the stock serendipity theme. im running the redrom right now, i dont want to lose the red but i would like the more icons at the bottom other than the phone the :: for app tray and the globe for internet
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In those screen shots posted how did you get those multiple icons at the bottom? i mean other than the stock serendipity theme. im running the redrom right now, i dont want to lose the red but i would like the more icons at the bottom other than the phone the :: for app tray and the globe for internet
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I wouldn't mind knowing either. I'm thinking it's a different launcher, but I'm only guessing. Still kinda new to android.
On my stock Cappy the GPS was only so-so. With Andromeda 1.2 it was awesome. Recently flashed to Cog 4.1 and while it was still better than stock, it was not as good as it was on Andromeda. I recently got a replacement phone from AT$T and decided to do some testing with it before I have to send one back. I have Andromeda on the phone on the left, Cog 4 on the phone on the right. I used two programs available for free from Market. The first is GPS Status, the second is GPS Test. Neother phone has a SIM card installed and wifi is turned off so that only the GPS is being used. Both phones have the exact same LBSTESTMODE settings and are using the same Google server and port.
Notice that Andromeda is not only faster at locking, but sees more satellites, holds them better, and gets a more accurate lock.
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Test 1 using GPS Status
Test 2 using GPS Test
I'd really like to stay on Cog 4.1 since it is based on an actual Cappy Froyo ROM, but GPS performance is important to me. What could be different about Andromeda that it performs so much better?
Interesting, better than the multiple anecdotes (which does not equal data) that often floats around
I wonder what we would see if you swapped the roms on the phones??
I too was less than impressed with cog 4.1 gps. I tried Plumbbob's 0.93 fix from the develop forum and man what a difference.
Try it. It made a terrific difference. Follow the instructions explicitly and it should work for you.
Plumbbob knows what he's doing when it comes to gps.
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Interesting, better than the multiple anecdotes (which does not equal data) that often floats around
I wonder what we would see if you swapped the roms on the phones??
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I actually had Andromeda on the phone on the right before I flashed it to Cog 4.0 and 4.1. That's why I was disappointed when I switched because Andromeda had run so well on that phone. When the replacement phone came and I saw the same result I knew it wasn't phone specific and had everything to do with the ROM.
Try a comparison with stock froyo.
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When the replacement phone came and I saw the same result I knew it wasn't phone specific and had everything to do with the ROM.
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Good info., no good Cappy/bad Cappy variations then
Seems to be a lot of anecdotes where people are using one ROM yesterday, another today where a lot of GPS performance could just come down to stuff like weather conditions and satellite positions, so this back to back stuff is quite interesting.
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I too was less than impressed with cog 4.1 gps. I tried Plumbbob's 0.93 fix from the develop forum and man what a difference.
Try it. It made a terrific difference. Follow the instructions explicitly and it should work for you.
Plumbbob knows what he's doing when it comes to gps.
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Just tried it. Even worse. Any way to undo whatever it did?
My wife's Aria still beats my Cap in the GPS area on stock Froyo. Gets a lock quickly and often sees her at 10ft in less than 20 secs. There are times I'm lucky to have a lock at all It looks more and more like the Cap has bad GPS hardware.
Just tried it. Even worse. Any way to undo whatever it did?
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There's an app in the Market called Samsung GPS fix. Should put back all the factory settings. Not tried it with a custom ROM tho.
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Just tried it. Even worse. Any way to undo whatever it did?
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Just had a stock eclair captivate due to warranty exchange. Had Cog4 on my previous unit. I had the really good performance that some see from a new stock eclair, but I knew it would degrade quickly like most say. So I put Cog 4.1 and Plumbbob's fix on and I found it to be of little help over my experience on a Cog 4 Cappy with a bad GPS. Going to try Andromeda and see if there's any improvement, and then I might go back to the stock Eclair build I backed up just before flashing Cog4.1 and see how long that quickness lasts.
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Just tried it. Even worse. Any way to undo whatever it did?
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Strange... You did the settings right in lbs test mode?
You can flash adams fix, should put it back. Cog 4.1 incorporated adams gps fix.
i was running phoenix 5.2 for a while and i seemed to get a 10m lock in a few seconds, regardless of my location
I'm back on Andromeda 1.2. Just couldn't live with the mediocre GPS performance with Cog 4.x. I wish DG would figure out how Andromeda is doing so well with the same hardware. That would get me back on Cog 4.x for sure.
This version is amazing and super stable. I can't imagine why it hasn't been pushed out officially...
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This version is amazing and super stable. I can't imagine why it hasn't been pushed out officially...
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The modem still sucks but yeah the rom is good
Humbly Charged LTE 4G
Verizon. Need I say more?
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mrtruckincowboy said:
The modem still sucks but yeah the rom is good
Humbly Charged LTE 4G
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EE4 wasn't a great modem either. Darn VIA radio.
But the GB builds have an issue with noises in phone calls that is still there in EP4P, if VZW is also seeing that in testing that could hold it up. And if they plan an ICS release for the phone Samsung might not try too hard to fix it - they obviously haven't been able to do so yet.
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But the GB builds have an issue with noises in phone calls that is still there in EP4P, if VZW is also seeing that in testing that could hold it up.
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+1 The noise happens to me on any 2.3 rom, hopefully it's one of the issues they're trying to resolve before releasing gingerbread, though I hate to be part if the reason it's being held up
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i think that something is wrong with my phone. It does not like any custom roms. It freezes and acts up often. Once i put the stock froyo or gbread it flies and works perfectly fine..... And gbread 2.3.5 and 2.3.6 were solid with no issues so far.
I think its the modem. I had my first static incall today after running the 2.3.6 leak for a week.
Never had that issue on froyo roms.
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There are some problems with this build as well. It seems to mostly be with the radio, echoing what people have said here. I've had a couple times where I could no longer send/receive SMS and had to reboot (where it immediately started working again).
There's some other weird things going on with the I/O. I use PowerAmp for music and I'm getting strange skips and pauses that I never had before. Could just be my configuration, but I'm still running pretty lean.
The latest rumor is that the OTA is happening on the 29th. That and $3.49 will get you a McRib.
GB is alright. They need to fix the freeze issue that has been on quite a few GB leaks. It doesn't happen that much on EP4P but it's still there. The modems on EP3 were great in the sense that the signal was SO much better, it obtained/held 4g with such ease. Then I upgraded to the EP4 modems and i lose my 4g signal like i did on EE4 but my 3g is actually usable now. Before the 3g speeds were so TERRIBLY slow i could never dream of browsing the web on it. These speeds are reasonable and i think these modems are the best so far. They need to combine EP3 and EP4 modems to make a solid, stable 4g connection but a very fast 3g connection when it does drop down. Ontop of all that they still need to fix the ****ty voice issue on all GB versions. EE4 was great with this but the GB modems make the voice quality sound like crap.
So, all in all, even though GB is clearly no where near ready to be launched i still just want them to push it anyway because that means GB source code which means CM7 which means CM9(if we get a dev on it)
I feel as the OP feels. As far as a bad radio, I guess I'm just lucky. I haven't had issues with data loss, crackling noise, Bluetooth problems, or anything else. This phone has been darn near perfect since I got it. The only real complaint I have (which really isn't a complaint) is battery consumption. I wish it was a tad better but I manage just fine. Oh, I do wish there was more memory too. I haven't been able to play a couple games because of low memory. Battery and memory are my only real issues at this point. Still, I'm overall very happy with the Charge and would have no problem staying with it if I didn't have an upgrade available.
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mrtruckincowboy said:
The modem still sucks but yeah the rom is good
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The modem is better than before. I'm not saying the modem is good or ready yet, but it is working better than any of the last 2 or 3 that I've tried / used.
I sure hope they don't screw up the O/S portion or give up completely because they radio is crap.
bluevolume said:
The latest rumor is that the OTA is happening on the 29th.
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Where did you hear that bro?
This release is solid
I was sick of waiting so I flashed this ROM to my phone and I have had the same results as the op. The phone is so responsive and snappy. It is like a new phone. I used to experience numerous data drops before and now, maybe a few in the last ten days. I have not had any of the static/call issues others have had. GPS is still slow to lock. Download GPS fix from the market and run it before you use the GPS...it helps IMO.
My battery life has improved since porting this release. I am a moderate user (phone calls, text, facebook, twitter, occasional GPS) and I get an entire day from my phone (7:00 am - 11:30 pm). I am sure streaming movies and gaming would cut it down significantly but the casual user will notice a big improvement in battery life.
Again, this is just my personal experience.
I agree that the latest version is awesome.
I guess I am really lucky as I have never had the slightest problem with data, phone call quality or anything else. My phone setup the way it is runs faster & smoother than my bosses Bionic.
The ONLY thing I would change if I could would be the poor battery life, but that's a fact of life with these huge screens etc.
~John
mrtruckincowboy said:
The modem still sucks but yeah the rom is good
Humbly Charged LTE 4G
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No problem with my Modem. Maybe its your Charge? The leak has been solid for me.
Sorry for the loose ended title but could someone explain to me why different roms get such vastly different battery life and data speeds?
I see people posting that they get battery life and speeds that are exponentially higher than mine on the roms that I try.
Even stock rooted isn't so hot for me but the open mobile leak rocks on my phone. What gives?
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It depends on multiple factors:
apps that are being used/bad app programming
kernal being used
coding of the rom
persons location & how strong their data signal is
what setup they have on their phone such as gps running all the time
bad battery
and other things
....and one important other factor, Thundebolts seem to have individual variations among them.
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....and one important other factor, Thundebolts seem to have individual variations among them.
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This is true. Every phone if the same model are different. That's why some phones can be overclock higher than others.
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No, the title being vague is actually good. I wish the organization of this forum was much better. Correct me if i miss something
Radio:
CDMA and LTE radios. There are MULTIPLE versions since thunderbolt came out March 15th of last year and the radios are normally posted individually unless you have someone package them together for you. So, i couldnt tell you what radio number 2.11.xx.xxx.x comes with MR4 but i downloaded mine from eternity web site i beleive. He has them packaged together.
Android Build:
Froyo / Ginger Bread / Ice Cream Sandwich. These are the basis of the builds. 2.2 is froyo, 2.3 is GB and 4.0 is ICS. If there is another number after its probably just the build number meaning what realease of the build.
Desktop:
Snese has its own sense launcher. Where AOSP needs Go Launcher EX / Launcher Pro / or something like ADW. This is what kind of got me. I may need some correcting. There are multiple types of Froyo / GB / ICS builds that are built different ways. CM7 and Sense (2-3.5) are the ones i know. Some will take CM7 and pair it with AOSP (can you pair it with anything else?) Some will take the Sense version (weather its 2.1 or 2.5 or 3.0) and remove as much of sense as possible and add aspects of AOSP. Thereare multiple ways to mix and match these.
I try to look for OTA releases or leaks. Releases are confirmed and leaks are lets call them Beta. They may be THE OTA leak but may not or if they are not usually its pretty close.
Kernal:
Lastly you have kernals. No matter what you run you have a kernal but you need a kernal for the particular setup your running. So if your running a sense kernal you cant run an AOSP kernal with that. These vary on how well data / data connection stabiltiy / power of each item such as wifi / 3g 4g / bluetooth and cpu speed as well as voltage.
I personally run CM7/AOSP because just by looking at the install files its 1/4th the size of any sense build. Therefore, even after experimentation, its slower. Not only visually, but youll see it any benchmark program. There are quite a few apps that make up what you loose from sense packages. My CM7/AOSP from Liquid smooth is 70mb vs 320 sens build.
I will work on a flow chart and see if i can make it visually easier to understand. But this, to answer your question in a long breathtaking tangent, is why there are so many variations in power / speed / utility etc.
Oh dont forget the packages of each one. CM7 has some issue where you dont get the google apps so you gotta go get them yourself on install. So that makes the .rom smaller from the start.
DId i miss something? meh let me know below. I am going to try to dev my next phone or if i get really bored ill try to dev this phone.
I'm going to have to read that again to get the full gist of what you are saying but very well put thank you. I have been slowly getting more of a grip on what happens with each Rom and have finally found my happy medium.
I just wanted to know because I would see weird results from speedtests that were baffling
Like bamf Roms always gave me 5 up 5 down and all the sense 3.0 Roms give me 2-3 down and 512k up, stock debloated gives me the same as Bamf and eternity gave me the same as sense 3 before I flashed the dtr. Now with that I get 12 down and 1 up but my battery only lasts maybe 3 hours.
When I first got this phone last year I had 36 down and 12 up. I miss that.
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I'm going to have to read that again to get the full gist of what you are saying but very well put thank you. I have been slowly getting more of a grip on what happens with each Rom and have finally found my happy medium.
I just wanted to know because I would see weird results from speedtests that were baffling
Like bamf Roms always gave me 5 up 5 down and all the sense 3.0 Roms give me 2-3 down and 512k up, stock debloated gives me the same as Bamf and eternity gave me the same as sense 3 before I flashed the dtr. Now with that I get 12 down and 1 up but my battery only lasts maybe 3 hours.
When I first got this phone last year I had 36 down and 12 up. I miss that.
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If you used a sense 3.0 Rom that's based on the open mobile leak, then you aren't alone. There must be something wrong with the ril because data speeds crawl on those ROMs, at no fault of the devs of course.
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