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the battery life on the raphael is a bit.. odd. Before I had this phone, i had the Sidekick LX, which was able to last about 12-14 hours and it didnt really matter how much I used it. The data on the sidekick is on all the time, but it is Edge.
However, using the ATT Fuze (raphael variant), I am a bit happy, and yet, a bit upset at the battery life. First, if i do not have data on, the battery lasts extremely long. Its been more than 12 hours, and i am at 85%. I had minimum web browsing, made a few phone calls, and talked for about an hour. Oh and i have email updates every 2 hours. Thats pretty remarkable for a smart phone.
BUT, if i am to browse the internet, listen to internet radio, or have an instant messaging program open, the battery drains at least 10% every hour! Thats horrendous! What is the point of a 3g smart phone if i cannot really use it because the battery will die if i do?
Hmm, I have hammered my phone the past few days with texts email, phone calls, messaging and some light video usage. It lasted about 10 - 14 hours and I charged it once a night. I have been pretty pleased with it.
I leave data on all the time and it will download my RSS feeds every 2 hours pictures and all, weather will update etc so its always using something. With normal usage and the always on stuff I have had it last about 2.5 - 3 days making very short and few calls.
With the screen being on, data going and all of the other stuff it saps the battery fairly well. I wish battery tech would advance a little to make it last longer but its better than my last phone by a good amount.
Have you made any of the power saving tweaks from that thread to your phone? You should be able to squeeze some more juice out of it.
There are several Raphael power tweaks on this forum, I would find them for you but am about to go to bed and am really tired. One I remember is you can put a disconnect time on the data using diamond tweak so it disconnects from data quickly when your not using it and saves battery. Sorry for not eing fo more help.
Did you condition your battery when you got the phone? That can help with you battery life sometimes.
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xgm541 said:
the battery life on the raphael is a bit.. odd. Before I had this phone, i had the Sidekick LX, which was able to last about 12-14 hours and it didnt really matter how much I used it. The data on the sidekick is on all the time, but it is Edge.
However, using the ATT Fuze (raphael variant), I am a bit happy, and yet, a bit upset at the battery life. First, if i do not have data on, the battery lasts extremely long. Its been more than 12 hours, and i am at 85%. I had minimum web browsing, made a few phone calls, and talked for about an hour. Oh and i have email updates every 2 hours. Thats pretty remarkable for a smart phone.
BUT, if i am to browse the internet, listen to internet radio, or have an instant messaging program open, the battery drains at least 10% every hour! Thats horrendous! What is the point of a 3g smart phone if i cannot really use it because the battery will die if i do?
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I have the phone for about 6 weeks and really didn't have too many problems with battery life until I bought a stereo BT headset and started using it in the last week or so. I had the battery literally drain to nothingness twice this week already in a matter of hours. And no, it wasn't off hook or on Wifi or left playing something. One time it was actually plugged in to a USB charger!
Do you use an A2DP headset or leave your BT active?
Dont get me wrong guys. I am aware the battery does drain when i do use it. Yes, i did do the most tweaking i could possibly have done to lengthen my battery life, but lets face it, streaming youtube videos through the youtube app will drain the battery 10% an hour.
The one thing that gets to me is why instant messaging programs drain the battery as fast as youtube streaming.
I did not make this thread to ask for help though, just contributing my 2 cents to my experience with the Raphael.
10% an hour??? Howd you fit a powerplant in your phone?? My battery drops to 50% in 20-30mins if I watch youtube movies. Are you watching in HQ?
well maybe more than 10% but definitely not 50% in 20 minutes lol.
My battery seems decent, I conditioned it by draining it to 1% and charging it to 100%, draining to 1% charging to 100% etc for the first few cycles. Basically I didn't charge it until it was drained. It doesn't hurt to condition, but I think it's just superstition by now, many people say modern Li-On batteries aren't supposed to have memory.
There are several threads about battery life around here already, no need to start a new one.
Is anyone that is having battery issues running Adao Task Manager and Battery Status Pro?
I just factory reset my phone and I got 24hours of batter life. About 8 standby but a good deal of texting, web, some calls and some you tube.
I installed Task Manager and Batter Status Pro last night and my battery this morning went down 15% in about 1hr.
I uninstalled these today and will post again but has anyone else seen big battery drain from these apps or does anyone that is having issues running something similar?
I have been playing with the battery for about a week now.
For me this phone runs pretty good during stand-by. I would have about 2-3% drop for a whole night (7 to 8 hrs), with Google (push), Twitter and weather syncing.
The problem is when you use it, it drops like crazy. When I read news or surf the web, it would drop 1% every 1 or 2 min.
This morning I read an ebook, with black background for about 30 min, it dropped about 3%.
So basically i think the screen, data connection, and non-black background are the ones that kill the battery.
Yea, I agree, the S-AMOLED screen in this thing is an energy hog. OLED's are supposed to be more energy efficient than typical LCD's but I'm just not seeing it. Whenever I look at battery usage stats it shows the display at 70-75% of battery usage. Thats ridiculous. I have until the 18th, but I'm quickly leaning towards returning this and just getting an iphone4. This phone is becoming more and more disappointing the longer I have it.
This morning I have been uplugged 4.75hrs and used 16% no battery monitor and no app killer. Basically done the same things I did yesterday. Some Bebbled,texting, email, phone calls .
I will update tomorrow with total hours battery life for today. Would be happy if I can replicate the 24hours I got the day before installing those apps.
I got like 45 hours of battery with moderate usage during the two days. Seems fine to me, I occasionally used system panel to monitor if anything was using high and constant CPU
This is pretty typical of a 1ghz phone My nexus would last a day of heavy usage, 2 days if i use it lightly. We need to wait for undervolted kernels to be developed xD
Also, it really helps if you disable 3G when you don't use it. This allows me to get 3-4 days of light usage out of my nexus. I haven't played with the Captivate long enough to know how much of a difference this makes on this phone though
when you guys refer to "stand by", what exactly do you mean? Just screen off/phone idle? The battery usage on my phone when I use it seems to be OK even if not amazing, but it continues to sap life from the battery when I'm using it at an alarming rate.
Standby is when the phone is idle/screen off/locked.
The display is definitely power hungry. Using the Power Control widget that comes installed definitely has helped with battery life. It will let you toggle WiFi, BT, GPS, Data Sync, and Brightness (at 3 levels). When I'm not using anyone of those, I turn it off. When I'm indoors, I'll set the brightness to the lowest level. I'm usually at my desk when I'm streaming music, so I'll have it plugged in.
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Yea, I agree, the S-AMOLED screen in this thing is an energy hog. OLED's are supposed to be more energy efficient than typical LCD's but I'm just not seeing it. Whenever I look at battery usage stats it shows the display at 70-75% of battery usage. Thats ridiculous. I have until the 18th, but I'm quickly leaning towards returning this and just getting an iphone4. This phone is becoming more and more disappointing the longer I have it.
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Actually they are more energy efficient on black screens, But screens with a lot of white in them suck battery bad.
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Actually they are more energy efficient on black screens, But screens with a lot of white in them suck battery bad.
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This is true the white screens burn the battery etc. I just wanted to let everyone know what I did to make my battery last more that 24hrs.
First, read the Wiki guide and apply some of the battery saving tips.
Second, UNINSTALL a program called "gReader" created by noinnion. This program is a huge battery hog! At least it was for me.
Hope this helps.
Well I guess I am one of the "lucky ones" Im running a live wallpaper and have not run my battery down since the 1st day. Right now Im at 40% life and at 15 Hrs 30m since unplugged. This is with checking facebook, twitter, email, phone calls, internet browsing\video watching and following the steps for the GPS fix. The only thing I have done is install ATK on the phone, besides that its all stock.
One thing I know is a huge battery drain is Time without Service. Check that stat and see if you have anytime at all without service, if so, I am pointing to that as a major drain on the battery. I know currently I have 0% Time without signal, my fiancee however is usually in the 20+% range and her battery drains like many reports I have seen here (she has an EVO).....
Yesterday I only managed 16 hours. Web, Email, A bluetooth file transfer, short bit of gaming. I have about 5% of the cell standby time (26%) without signal. My girlfriend has the Aria which is running Android 2.1 also, has all sorts of widgets, haptic feedback on and can make it at least 24 hours. I get that it has a smaller screen but it is also an LCD. Shouldn't the Super Amoled be saving our battery some display consumption.
i get about 14 hours or so moderate usage and at the end of the day, i have about 35% left at night.
If you detail the "Display" usage in the battery usage details how many minutes has your screen been on? Mine says 1hour 2mins ...this is for 8 hours of running time. My display is using 50% of the battery (which is at 68% now).
W00t W00t today I have reached a new high 2 Days 6 hours and 29 minuts with 12% battery left.....
What I have found is keeping Wifi on while I am at work and home like almost doubled my battery life. Which is great that I can use Wifi all day and not drain the battery so fast like my Fuze. Right now been off charger since 7:30am and I have 84% left. Yesterday after 9 hours I was still over 50%. For me its better than any other smartphone I have owened.
I used manual brightness, (swipe notification bar), turn off GPS/BT. black wallpaper and set Wifi to never sleep. Also the power saving mode in settings is off for other reason and doesn't affect battery.
At 18% right now and it's been off the charger for about 30 hours. I noticed yesterday that while I was connected to wifi at home (with Y5 app), it was draining faster than when I was connected to 3g. Did some tested back and forth and JuicePlotter clearly had a noticeably steeper downward slope for when wifi was connected than when it was using 3g. Weird :\
anyone feel as if their battery life sucks? I do have 4g on at all times but I didnt think it would make that big of a difference in terms of battery life.
See my post here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?goto=newpost&t=839935
Try installing a monitoring app and see if your init process is hitting the CPU hard. I haven't heard from any other mt4g users with the same problem, but lots of.desirehd users have it.
I also have seen my suspend process eating 50%+ CPU when the phone is locked/screen off. Haven't found a fix for that yet though.
I'm getting a full 24 hours of heavy texting, moderate phone calls. Battery life is better than my magic... im having no issues.
Yes, I woke up this morning and my phone was already blinking and battery is on 8%. I left it overnight with more then 60%
A big problem also is that SetCpu cannot force the scale. If limit to 768 Mhz it still scale to 1024. So not I am sure that my ScreenOff profile with 245 Mhz DOESN'T WORK!
THAT'S SUX!!!
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Yes, I woke up this morning and my phone was already blinking and battery is on 8%. I left it overnight with more then 60%
A big problem also is that SetCpu cannot force the scale. If limit to 768 Mhz it still scale to 1024. So not I am sure that my ScreenOff profile with 245 Mhz DOESN'T WORK!
THAT'S SUX!!!
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Weird I leave my phone at full overnight and its still at full when I wake up.
Try disabling the preflock that might help before I did that it wasnt scaling properly now afterwards it is.
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I have frozen a few apps and use advanced task killer every time i start up 9a lot of apps come on at start-up).
The result is pretty good battery life. I have only gone dead when I had a few apps (like GPS navigation) running in background and forgot about them.
I'm having 0 issues with my battery. It easily beats out the battery life on the Samsung Vibrant I had.
I'm having issues too. My battery life today was 40% at 1 PM, and when I left this morning, it was full. I hardly even used the phone except to check email :/ I have brightness on auto and wifi off. Not sure what the issue is.
My battery life has been really good. A typical cycle is charge to full and disconnect power at 10:00 pm. Up at 6:00 AM, battery is still on 100%. Today my use has been moderate to heavy. It's now 2:30 PM and I have 68% left. I typically have around 30 percent left when I put in back on the charger. I'm happy with that.
Wifi, Bluetooth, GPS, etc., are kept off until I use them. I do however leave Background data and Auto-sync on all the time.
I turned on USB Debugging as recommended and my battery life is much better. Right now it hasn't been charged in 9 hours and is at 79%. I've downloaded 2 apps, updated 3 apps, sent multiple emails, light internet use, and 3-4 calls. I'm unrooted and don't use any task killers.
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I turned on USB Debugging as recommended and my battery life is much better. Right now it hasn't been charged in 9 hours and is at 79%. I've downloaded 2 apps, updated 3 apps, sent multiple emails, light internet use, and 3-4 calls. I'm unrooted and don't use any task killers.
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That's awesome. I'm going to turn on USB Debugging mode and see if I can squeeze a little more juice out of it.
I have had intermittent battery-drain issues too. On Saturday morning my battery went from 100 down to 76% in a matter of an hour or two with hardly any use. I did a restart and it seemed better. I've also gotten into the habit of restarting my phone once a day, right before I take it off the charger in the morning. I've turned off quick boot, which I read somewhere in the forums can affect battery life. It's been pretty good the last few days. I'm at 68% now off charger for 9.5 hrs with moderate amounts of wifi, web browsing, email, and 3G network usage. I'm new to android devices so I don't have much to compare that to, but it's working for my schedule.
heavy user - fully charged phone at 7am ... start using after 7:30am
check emails, fb, txt, barely to no calls.....phone will be down to about 20% at 1:30~2pm....
yes the battery is lame...but this is a known issue with HTC...the 3.8 screen drains a lot of battery also the constantly searching for HSPA+ and 3G...
I do notice when screen is off....this phone still drains battery !!! bad =(
left over night at about 65% left in the morning I got red blinking led saying phone is below 10% .... 50% gone!!!
I think restarting the phone after a full charge is a good idea....also maybe turn off quick boot?
*update* yes I found that when you have a bad signal and it's jumping between E and H ... this eats up battery
also installed Advance Task Killer (for froyo) this helps~ now from 8am my phone can last until about 4pm getting about 3~3.5hrs more life
Mine lasts all day with everything on, playing games, email, text, etc, etc.
It is great, best phone I have had. Not sure what the issue is unless it is root.
It depends where you live.
If you get a good antenna signal, your battery will last.
At my apartment signal is low, so phone is constantly between UMTS and GPRS, plus phone is trying to hold H, so that drains the battery.
My signal strength parameters:
between -101 dBm and -107 dBm (where -110dBm is the edge of the signal/loosing signal)
3 asu and 7 asu
We need to be precise in what we communicate in order not to have misunderstandings. Many threads disagree on how good the battery is on th G2x. I agree that 6-8 hours of continuous use is great, that is if you're literally using nonstop, without having the screen shut off.The problem that many users are complaining about is that the battery keeps draining at a unacceptable rate even when the phone is just on standby. The excuse is that this is a smart phone and it has to ping the towers in order to receive calls.
Well my last smart phone was the HTC Shadow which was a Windows based operating system and the battery would never drain at 5-15% an hour just on standby. I did some reading on many sites, and the majority consensus is only android handsets have this huge battery drain problem when it's not being used but just on standby. So what gives? Is it because of google maps? Or some other google program that has to constantly access your phone even when you yourself aren't activley using it?
I've notice on my juice defender log that when I'm not using my phone it shows every few minutes something about accessing a schedule and data. What could this be? Back ground data? The only way I can get the phone not to drain excessivley when on standby is to put it on airplane mode. The bad battery drain when phone isn't being used has something to do with the Android operating system and the cellphones radio being very active even when not in use.
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Factory Reset fixes that
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Believe me I tried resetting it twice, and it does nothing for improving the battery drain.
If any one has juice defender go to status tab and check your log. Even with the supposedly data turned off it'll show the the phone us accessing some schedule or data every few minutes.Maybe one of the knowledgeable developers can look into this and tell us what is happening and create a fix.
You may have a bad battery.
The battery that came with my G2x in the box (manuf. date of 2011-04-06) had the insane battery drain where I can watch it drop. I got a replacement thru Tmo (manuf. date of 2011-04-28), which has been outstanding.
Prior to the new battery, I lasted about 7 hours with moderate/heavy use. The new battery just clocked in at almost 16 hours the other day.
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You may have a bad battery.
The battery that came with my G2x in the box (manuf. date of 2011-04-06) had the insane battery drain where I can watch it drop. I got a replacement thru Tmo (manuf. date of 2011-04-28), which has been outstanding.
Prior to the new battery, I lasted about 7 hours with moderate/heavy use. The new battery just clocked in at almost 16 hours the other day.
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We'll see, I just spoke to t mobile customer rep, they shipped me out a new one which should get here on the 3rd. Although, I didn't appreciate them charging me $10 for shipping. 16 hours of heavy use and I'll be content, if not I'm getting me the mugen 4500mah extended battery. So with o out you touching the phone how much percent does it drain in an hour?
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We'll see, I just spoke to t mobile customer rep, they shipped me out a new one which should get here on the 3rd. Although, I didn't appreciate them charging me $10 for shipping. 16 hours of heavy use and I'll be content, if not I'm getting me the mugen 4500mah extended battery. So with o out you touching the phone how much percent does it drain in an hour?
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Right now I'm at 99%, phone has been unplugged for 2hrs 34mins. I'm on wifi at the moment, but I would have drained anyway on the old battery with this same setup.
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Right now I'm at 99%, phone has been unplugged for 2hrs 34mins. I'm on wifi at the moment, but I would have drained anyway on the old battery with this same setup.
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Do you have juice defender installed?
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Do you have juice defender installed?
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Yup, same exact setup with old and new battery.
I'll try when I have the time and patience for it, but maybe someone can perform an experiment by charging to full then just let the phone sit on standby until the battery dies. Do this with wifi, bluetooth, juice defender and gps off. Log how long it took to die, then run the same test again, but with juice defender turned on. If it can hold it's charge for 2-3 days I'll be very happy, but if it dies out in 16 hours just being idle and on standby then somethings wrong.
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I'll try when I have the time and patience for it, but maybe someone can perform an experiment by charging to full then just let the phone sit on standby until the battery dies. Do this with wifi, bluetooth, juice defender and gps off. Log how long it took to die, then run the same test again, but with juice defender turned on. If it can hold it's charge for 2-3 days I'll be very happy, but if it dies out in 16 hours just being idle and on standby then somethings wrong.
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JD only kicks in when I'm on cell data. With wifi on, it never activates I believe. Unless I'm looking at this wrong.
I was getting horrible battery life when I first got mine. I couldn't go 8 hours without it dying, and that was not even using the phone...on standby! I tried a toggle switch for data to turn it off and on when using it, but it still died. Next, I tried a 2g-4g toggle switch. Battery life is flat out amazing now. I can go almost 8 hours on a full charge and be on maybe 95%!!! I think a lot of it has to do with my office building and not getting the best reception. I would tend to bounce back and forth from edge to 4g all the time. Anyway, I use switch pro for the toggle widget, but give it a shot for a few days.
Switchpro only has a 2G/3G toggle. How did you get the 4G toggle or did you mistake what it was called.
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I had a similar problem with my first G2x. With the screen turned off and in stand-by the battery would drain 15-20% per hour. I even bought 3 cheap batteries from China and the results were the same. I then had T-Mobile send me a replacement G2x. The new G2x drains about 1% per hour in stand-by. I even get 1% drain with the 3 cheap batteries. So it appears the problem was the phone. I had tried CM7 and Eaglesblood on the first G2x and it didn't stop the drain.
I had terrible life when first started, than I did the factory reset and the battery conditioning thing.
Took it off charge over 30 hours ago, it still has 10% left. Within that it had a solid 2 hours use of edge/3g/4g internet (Searching for towers as I was on a train). And a good hour of me using it on wireless for checking emails and browsing while at home and work.
Note that I have GPS turned off, and the phone is on a wireless network for almost all of its idle time. NO Juice Defender, no data stwitching, no rooting. Stock standard, although I did follow the advice here and not activate any of the TMobile apps.
Pretty happy with it now.
Well now we are all S-OFF and running custom rom's/kernels, was just wondering what drain people are seeing on battery under normal usage?
I'm getting 228mAh overclocked to 1.728Ghz with on demand with Leedroid 1.1 (kernel 1.2).
About 4 times as much as my old HD2 used to drain!
Kind of mental battery usage really. And not too impressed, it doesn't seem to be any different with or without background data usage.
Not sure I can be happy with this device the way it stands!
Getting about a days battery life and that's coaxing it through the day. God forbid I actually use it!! Done all the calibration and followed all the guides, still terrible battery life. Battery technology is shocking. Think I'd need a 10,000mAH battery to have any reasonable sort of battery life.
So what's other people's opinion??
its all about the setup man. takes time to find the settings right for what u use the phone for, and every phone is different. moderate use i can get 10 hours on android revolution 1.1.5. give it a few solid charges (all the way dead until you cant even get the phones screen to power on and then charge until the green light is on for over an hour) and then wipe battery stats when its at 100%.
If your that unhappy with it and nothings working call up your carrier they'll replace it for you, I did that with my G1
I feel the same way. I love this phone, but what's it good for when you can't use it. I find the battery levels to be a bit unusual. It could stay in 100% for a good two hours, and then it would drop to 90% in 10 minutes. And it just goes downhill from that on. I did battery calibration and cycling , but still the same result. I find myself avoid using the phone. I just ordered higher capacity battery. Hopefully, I have better luck with that one.
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Moderate use (aka no gaming just emails, xda forum app 15mins, music 30mins, video 15mins and occassional internet), I've been able to last the work day til I get home. I usually still have range from 25% to 50% battery when I get home.
When I do any gaming app, it won't last me the day.
I end up having to charge the battery every night for the next day's use.
I carry the usb charger for wkend usage. I can almost always find somewhere to plug the usb in for charge (car, laptop, etc).
I love this phone and it's QHD screen. The display eats up a lot of battery though. I've calibrated my display lighting to 33% brightness (it's still looks great) as default to conserve on battery but will boost it to 100% when I'm plugged in.