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Is there any way to get this thing to last over 10 hours with moderate/medium usage? I mean I hate to compare, but I was able to use my iphone 4 hard periodically through the day and be at 40% around midnight, but I have to stay using my captivate very lightly after about 10pm, and I usually unplug around 12 to 1pm..
I don't want to have to sacrifice majors perks of why I switched to android just to get a full day out of it. I've tried a lot of the suggestions I'm the forums, but nothing makes a notice difference, or makes it a fame changer as to where I'll get a full day of moderate internet/media usage
Thanks in advance.
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Have you tried draining and recharging the battery as other threads have suggested? I usually unplug around 9-10am and I don't get battery warning until near midnight or later.
I keep seeing people complain about the battery life constantly.. but to me coming from my bb bold it seems that the battery is lasting way longer then i expected.. first couple charges i let the phone drain down till it shut off, and then charged it 100%.. its still new to me so im constantly playing with it and changing the menus around.. i try to make sure almost everything is closed when im not using it.. cause im sure that eats battery life..
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Have you tried draining and recharging the battery as other threads have suggested? I usually unplug around 9-10am and I don't get battery warning until near midnight or later.
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I did it once, but I booted back up the phone a few minutes after I plugged it in, will leaving it off while it does a full 100% charge noticeably increase battery life?
Do you have widgets updating frequently? How frequently? Maybe just too many updating widgets. I get about 18 hours with the screen on for 4.
18 hours also
I'm getting 16-18 hours of use with about 4-5 hours of screen time. Better than expected.
Today I used my phone as much as I used my iPhone 4 on a regular basis. My phone has been off the charger for just over 12 hours and I have 70% of my battery left.
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I'm getting 16-18 hours of use with about 4-5 hours of screen time. Better than expected.
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I'm around that too, I use a black background to save power and I have about 5-6 hours of screen time and I watch a movie on it every day (treadmill at the gym)
I only get low battery around midnight
I use advanced task killer and set it to when the screen is off to kill apps, aggressive mode, I can go about 20hrs before I need to recharge. 5-6hrs screen time.
djgleebs said:
Is there any way to get this thing to last over 10 hours with moderate/medium usage? I mean I hate to compare, but I was able to use my iphone 4 hard periodically through the day and be at 40% around midnight, but I have to stay using my captivate very lightly after about 10pm, and I usually unplug around 12 to 1pm..
I don't want to have to sacrifice majors perks of why I switched to android just to get a full day out of it. I've tried a lot of the suggestions I'm the forums, but nothing makes a notice difference, or makes it a fame changer as to where I'll get a full day of moderate internet/media usage
Thanks in advance.
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One thing about android is it has true multitasking. Combined with some apps which do NOT close properly and continue to use up CPU this can drain your batter very fast.
In the battery Info your TimeSpentAwake should be ~ the same as Display on time. If not something is not closing properly. Use OSMonitor to check which program it is and either uninstall it or make sure to kill it with task killer after using.
I have the M110S (Korean Galaxy S - I get 16-18 Hrs with moderate use, but M110S comes w/ 2 batteries so i just swap )
Yeah based on people who are getting good battery life mine is absolutely terrible. I am on my fourth full discharge. I have had my phone off the charger for 2 hours and I'm already at 87 percent. I listened to about 45 minutes of cached slacker radio and like 2 posts on xda app
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My battery went down 2 percent just posting that last post
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I think I am going to have the phone switched out at best buy today
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Just to comment on my battery life. I got my phone saturday (2.5 days ago) and its been on the whole time with medium usage. When I got the phone the pamphlet inside said "fully charge before you turn on" and thats what I did. My battery is at 41% and the only time that I have charged it since is when I am connecting it to my PC for a very short amount of time. I have had great battery life so it is possible. I am very impressed with it.
Yes...my battery life has been good...
Screen brightness all the way down (auto brightness off) *same for the browser brightness
Screen timeout 15 secs (annoying sometimes so maybe 30 secs)
No window animations
Power saving mode off (no point in having the lcd adjust if its already as low as it will go)
I also dont have any widgets that update in the background, however i'd imagine one or two wouldnt affect the battery much
These settings have worked out for me and i use the phone moderately with 2 hourly updating email accounts.....
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Battery life for me has been decent. I consider myself a moderate user and I can go from 7:30am till I go to bed at night without dying, but its close. Coming from an iPhone 2G, where with the same usage I could get 2-3 days on one charge, its a little disappointing. But it is what it is I guess. I have heard horror stories of EVO's only going 4-6 hours on a full charge, thats ridiculous.
But what gets me is all this nonsense about fully discharging before charging back up every time. These are Li-ion batteries, they are not Ni-cads, they will not get a "memory" if you dont fully discharge every time. Yes, its good the very first time, to fully charge it before using it, but after that, it doesnt really matter.
Also, one more thing I noticed. The phone will stop charging the battery the second its fully charged. So if your phone reaches 100% charge at like 2am, it stops charging at 2am and you are then going from 2am till whenever you take it off charge in the morning. I noticed this the other day. As soon as the phone told me it was fully charged, the battery icon turned into a normal battery icon even though it was still plugged in. So its possible that the phone is going for 4, 5, 6 hours off charge before you even wake up. What I do to make sure I'm at 100% when I leave, is when I get up I unplug it, use it for a minute then put back on charge while showering. Then when I leave for work, I know its fully charged at 100%.
I guess I'll be switching out phones at Best Buy today as well. Phone keeps losing 30-40% overnight (more like 5 hours max since I'm a night owl) even with everything turned off. When I do get back to a 90% charge before I leave for work at 8am, I'm usually left with 30-40% by 5pm after 15 texts or so and a few emails.
I am fairly sure all new batteries have a chip in them that regulates the power. So you HAVE to run it down to 0-5% and charge it back too 100% several times before the battery is even calibrated for use. That has to be why its 50/50 battery sucks battery is great, just let it drain and charge it again.
battery life simply not acceptable
Hey guys,
I know many people post on battery life.
Here is my situation.
I do not care about beauty, but functionality is a must.
I am in the hospital from ca 6am to 7Pm and I have Q4 call meaning every fourth night its to midnight. That is simply a fact of my life.
My requirement:
I need my phone to last for this duration without recharge.
1.)
I don't need or use widgets
2.)
I don't need or use a wallpaper other than a solid black background.
I do need and use:
the GSM radio and wifi both need to run the entire time and reception is what it is.
My applications of use:
merck manual, dynamed, epocrates the usual in my boat.
I really really want to use this phone, but battery life wise only my blackberry with extended battery and my iphone 4 can hack it.
If any of you have any suggestions on what I could do plz let me know. My last resort is carrying two batteries, but that would frankly be admitting that this phone is inferior to the iphone 4 which can hack a 20 hour usage day in my setting.
(I absolutely cannot turn wifi or 3G off both must run)
I am open to all suggestions including the task killr controversy or anything else constructive one may have. Any extended size batteries out there for the captivate?
Thanks a bunch in advance.
(Having had my secretary spend 4 hours rooting the phone and sideloading Merck manual is a testament to the pathetic entity that is AT&T by the way. If you have professional apps from an institutional subscription you cannot download the software from the market...)
PS: My secretary is not exactly a hacker so forgive the 4 hour timeframe.
I consider myself to be a heavy user!! I like to text, browse the web, listen to music (either from my own files or streaming,) check email and comment on facebook all throughout the day. I did that perfectly fine with my Bold 9700, that battery lasted a full day or more.
I had an iPhone 4 and my battery would not last my 8 hour work shift!! I either had a bad battery or who knows what was going on with that phone. I didn't even leave the apps running...the phone was nice, but that battery killed it for me. I don't understand how some people got a full day out of it.
On the Captivate the most I have gotten has been around 10 hours of use and that's not even using it how I normally like to. I stop charging it at 8:30 and my battery is 100% around 10am I'm already in my low 90's or upper 80's. I don't have any widgets updating, I have a black wallpaper, I don't have the haptic feedback on, and I sync email hourly.
Could my battery be bad?? How can some of you manage to get 16 or so hours out of it??
My Droid 2 global's battery life is not good,nearly 1 day for each full charge(i used room fission 2.4.3)Is there any way to improve the battery life
If you're getting a whole day out of one charge that's outstanding battery life.
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Too sad to hear that exacly i used about 20 hours.How about you?i heard that if use CDMA the battery life will better?
I've heard something of the like, but nothing conclusively. I've heard that underclocking the cpu can help (if you want to root your phone). So can using a rom like Fission, which doesn't have the stock Blur that, although somewhat nice, is a big drain on batteries. This would naturally be a pretty big change though. You can also get the extended battery for <$50 which I heard helps a bunch.
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I've heard something of the like, but nothing conclusively. I've heard that underclocking the cpu can help (if you want to root your phone). So can using a rom like Fission, which doesn't have the stock Blur that, although somewhat nice, is a big drain on batteries. This would naturally be a pretty big change though. You can also get the extended battery for <$50 which I heard helps a bunch.
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Yep,underclocking the cpu and use room Fission make the battery maintain more longer(i'm using gsm not cdma).In my country (VietNam) someone sells Droid's battery for only 10$,i'm thinking to get one
Just got my D2G, I put it on CDMA only and the battery still sucks. It went from 80% to 40% overnight and it was set for night time battery save mode.
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Just got my D2G, I put it on CDMA only and the battery still sucks. It went from 80% to 40% overnight and it was set for night time battery save mode.
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Wow that's strange, I left my phone overnight not charging because it hit 100% before I went to bed, and 10 hrs later it was still at 90%, sitting idle my phone uses nearly no power. However I never used the battery save mode and I only just recently put it in only CDMA mode just to see if that makes life any better.
I've found that the biggest drain on the battery is having mobile data switched on in an area where the phone can't keep a clear lock on 3G and is constantly switching between 1x and 3G.
After switching to Fission, underclocking, keeping gps and wifi off unless I'm using them, turning the brightness down to 10% except when outside in the sun, and managing apps that sync background data, I can use the phone pretty heavily and get a full day (15-18 hours) out of my battery. Considering I put it in the media dock for use as my alarm clock every night, that amount of battery life is perfectly fine.
BTW, I use SetCPU for underclocking. I set the max speed to 1GHz with On Demand scaling. I also have profiles to scale down the speed to 600MHz when the battery gets low or when the screen is off (which helps with the background data stuff). At 600MHz it's still faster than my original Droid, thanks to the doubling of memory in the D2G.
So far Today after 5 hours of moderate use I went from 100 At 50 on the battery. Is this normal?
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Phone on for 7 hours and the battery is down to 30%, something must be wrong, right?
eaglewwit said:
So far Today after 5 hours of moderate use I went from 100 At 50 on the battery. Is this normal?
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Phone on for 7 hours and the battery is down to 30%, something must be wrong, right?
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Check what's been using the battery. That might help pinpoint what's going on.
eaglewwit said:
So far Today after 5 hours of moderate use I went from 100 At 50 on the battery. Is this normal?
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Phone on for 7 hours and the battery is down to 30%, something must be wrong, right?
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I wouldn't call it very unusual TBH
900 am to 900pm and battery down to 30% with moderate usage. I hope there is someway to improve this. My iphone during the same time period with about the same usage and at least an hour playing bejewled only droped to 70%
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BTW, I use SetCPU for underclocking. I set the max speed to 1GHz with On Demand scaling. I also have profiles to scale down the speed to 600MHz when the battery gets low or when the screen is off (which helps with the background data stuff). At 600MHz it's still faster than my original Droid, thanks to the doubling of memory in the D2G.
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zse45tgb,
Does SetCPU only require root and SU?? BTW I used SetCPU on my Eris and it was a lifesaver.
Haven't gone the Fission route just yet but loved ROMs on my Eris, such a battery saver. Really hope the dev's can make it happen.
Don't mean to sound like a twit here, but I used to have a huge problem with the battery life... when I was dicking around with it for hours at a time. Try only using it when you need to. Don't sit on facebook/maps/using it for pointless things for extended periods of time. I have found that just using it moderately has had the most dramatic impact on battery life. I can maintain complete functionality of my phone when I need it, and still have at least 50% battery by midnight. If you are using it that heavily, then maybe you should carry a charger around with you? Hope this helps.
Idk how you guys get such terrible batt life. i have mine OVERclocked to 1.35 ghz. i also have profiles to lower that as the batt goes down. I have everything that updates set to update every 30 mins, which is quite frequent. i dont mess with screen brightness, i let it auto adjust. I play games on occasion (SNESoid), facebook frequently, alot of texting and my battery lasts 18-20 hours every day, consistently. When you first got the phone you let it charge for 8 hours right away right? if not...theres your problem, and your battery will probably self destruct in a few months...give or take a few months lol.
Use The Following Settings to Help Maxmize Your Battery Life
I've been using the following settings on the Fission 2.4.3 Rom and I've noticed my battery life has increased at least 6-8 hours longer. I was considering returning my D2G before, but now it is definitely manageable.
Installing the SIM Card HotFix using the Fission Rom Manager
Adjusting my mobile networks to "CDMA / EvDo auto" in "Settings" -> "Wireless Networks" -> "Mobile Networks" -> "Network Mode"
Underclocking my CPU to 1Ghz using SetCpu
If you really want to save some more power combine these settings with Juice Defender. I've noticed a bit of lag here and there while using it, but that's the trade off for longer battery life.
I can confirm zse45tgb post about losing a lot of battery in an areas with poor 3g reception. When I'm at work my battery will drop much faster then when I'm at home where my 3g reception is great.
Props to AngDroid and the rest of Team Defuse.
Hope this helps someone else out there begin to enjoy their D2G.
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Idk how you guys get such terrible batt life. i have mine OVERclocked to 1.35 ghz. i also have profiles to lower that as the batt goes down. I have everything that updates set to update every 30 mins, which is quite frequent. i dont mess with screen brightness, i let it auto adjust. I play games on occasion (SNESoid), facebook frequently, alot of texting and my battery lasts 18-20 hours every day, consistently. When you first got the phone you let it charge for 8 hours right away right? if not...theres your problem, and your battery will probably self destruct in a few months...give or take a few months lol.
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these are li polymer batterys...not nicad. lol. so they dont need "warming" up the first time... the first charge is the same as the rest. it should be charged in around 90mins tops. a li-pol battery isnt able to accept a trickle charge (would damage it) so leaving it on past 100% is uneccessary and potentially damaging. i wouldnt recommend ever leaving your battery on for 8hrs. as soon as its charged unplug it. if you leave it connected then the charger will switch off, you will then be using the battery, the battery will eventually drop to 90% and then the charger will turn back on. youll be continuously topping the battery from 90 up to 100 and back again. a waste of electricity and im sure it wont do the battery or charger any good.
theres also no need to fully discharge the battery.
a quote from http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/charging_lithium_ion_batteries
"Preparing new lithium-ion for use
Unlike nickel and lead-based batteries, a new lithium-ion pack does not need cycling through charging and discharging. Priming will make little difference because the maximum capacity of lithium-ion is available right from the beginning. Neither does a full discharge improve the capacity of a faded pack. However, a full discharge/charge will reset the digital circuit of a 'smart' battery to improve the state-of-charge estimation"
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zse45tgb,
Does SetCPU only require root and SU??
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Yes, that's all. You can use it on the stock Moto rom.
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these are li polymer batterys...not nicad. lol. so they dont need "warming" up the first time... the first charge is the same as the rest. it should be charged in around 90mins tops. a li-pol battery isnt able to accept a trickle charge (would damage it) so leaving it on past 100% is uneccessary and potentially damaging. i wouldnt recommend ever leaving your battery on for 8hrs. as soon as its charged unplug it. if you leave it connected then the charger will switch off, you will then be using the battery, the battery will eventually drop to 90% and then the charger will turn back on. youll be continuously topping the battery from 90 up to 100 and back again. a waste of electricity and im sure it wont do the battery or charger any good.
theres also no need to fully discharge the battery.
a quote from http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/charging_lithium_ion_batteries
"Preparing new lithium-ion for use
Unlike nickel and lead-based batteries, a new lithium-ion pack does not need cycling through charging and discharging. Priming will make little difference because the maximum capacity of lithium-ion is available right from the beginning. Neither does a full discharge improve the capacity of a faded pack. However, a full discharge/charge will reset the digital circuit of a 'smart' battery to improve the state-of-charge estimation"
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well thats certainly odd since i bought 2 OEM replacement batteries and used one out of the box til it died without charging it and it now wont hold a charge. Just coincidence that the one i did that to was a lemon?
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adridge said:
You can also get the extended battery for <$50 which I heard helps a bunch.
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I purchased the BP7X extended battery from a local Verizon store for $37 with corporate discount. It makes a HUGE difference. With corporate e-mail, two POP accounts at 30-minute intervals, and about 2 hours of music playing, I had 40% left after 12 hours yesterday. I know some people want to see more than that left, but coming from a number of -gasp- Windows Mobile devices, this is pretty much what I'm used to.
T BP7X is 1820/1860mAh, vs. the stock BP6X at 1390/1420mAh. I've seen other batteries listed with as much as 3500mAh. I would think such a battery would get one throught the day with very heavy usage, but I don't want to think how large that battery door would have to be!
The first post at this link shows a comparion of a D2 with the normal battery door and the Moto/VZW extended door. As somebody posted somewhere, the extended door actually makes the device "feel" better in the hand.
https://supportforums.motorola.com/message/224663
i heard from my friend that HTC need to do battery calibration. is it true??
Don't think so. Another phone had a "calibration" routine but I haven't heard anything on this one. I tried the calibration routine from the other phone on mine and noticed no difference.
I really have a sucky battery life on htc sensation. I am trying to figure it out how I could get it to last for more than 12hours with average use...
I bought a replacement battery. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0055QKZBS
While a lith-ion battery doesn't learn or have a memory, the battery does have a chip in it that needs to be calibrated. You'll need to cycle your battery from fully charged to fully discharged 3 to 5 times to calibrate this circuit. Normally a LI battery doesn't like to be fully discharged, so try to avoid doing this in everyday use. Better to give it maintenence charges. And heat is a big enemy of these batteries as well.
And seems to me 12 hours is pretty good battery life for a smart phone.
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While a lith-ion battery doesn't learn or have a memory, the battery does have a chip in it that needs to be calibrated. You'll need to cycle your battery from fully charged to fully discharged 3 to 5 times to calibrate this circuit. Normally a LI battery doesn't like to be fully discharged, so try to avoid doing this in everyday use. Better to give it maintenence charges. And heat is a big enemy of these batteries as well.
And seems to me 12 hours is pretty good battery life for a smart phone.
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+1, very well put.
2 points.
1. There are also battery stats on the phone, which need to be built by full charge/discharge cycle.
2. Discharge phone till it's dead with no fear, battery controller shuts it down when there is some juice left. It's like reserve in your tank, it shows you have petrol for 0 miles/kilometers, but in reality there is another 5 litres sitting in the tank.
I worked in the cell phone industry for a long time. The best thing i have seen for a full charge is to regulaurly do a full charge and than turnphone off and plug back in until indicator shows full again(if it shows full already charge for half to full hour). I have always seen better results. Also if rooted wipe battery stats in advanced before flashing any radio or rom.
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dunes20 said:
I worked in the cell phone industry for a long time. The best thing i have seen for a full charge is to regulaurly do a full charge and than turnphone off and plug back in until indicator shows full again(if it shows full already charge for half to full hour). I have always seen better results. Also if rooted wipe battery stats in advanced before flashing any radio or rom.
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This may easily be true. I think I read that the battery doesn't actually like being fully charged and that most chargers shut down early because of this. Maybe your tip has something to do with that. I don't know myself how that will correllate w/ calibrating the charge circuit that I spoke of.
Google is definately your friend here.
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I bought a replacement battery. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0055QKZBS
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That's a very intersting battery you got here. It has bigger capacity than the original one. Does it have the same size? Were you able to fit it in and put the original cover back? Have you noticed a noticeable improvement in battery life or is it just scam?
I don't have the tmo 4g, I have the european version, but I believe it should work too, shouldn't it?
Out of the box.... Use it till it dies completely. Charge it 100% without interruption.
I've ALWAYS had great battery life on all my devices using that method.
Do that a few times a month when it's convenient....you'll have a happy battery.
Battery and DRIVER need to be conditioned/calibrated.
I get 12-16 hours with fairly heavy use. If you want more, ya need to wait for different battery tech OR get a dumb phone.
Asking for more than 12 or so hours is just silly with a device this powerful and a display this large. I'm not someone who likes to cut the balls off my superphone to save a few hours on battery life. I'd rather get 12 hours and use this phone the way it was intended too, than get 24 hours and have silly progs like Juice Defender running. Unless you know you're gonna be lost in a forest for a few days, don't most people have access to a charger sometime during their day
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I really have a sucky battery life on htc sensation. I am trying to figure it out how I could get it to last for more than 12hours with average use...
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Disabling the HTC Hub sync helped mine a lot.
My phone has been unplugged for 10 hours, I have 1h 17 minutes of display on time, taking 67% of battery. The rest is spread between Cell standby 11%, Wi-Fi 11%, Phone Idle 8% and Maps 3%.
It is now standing at 29% battery. I find that awful and can't believe any of you say it is normal. I have disabled HTC Hub and Sense sync and all the settings are pretty much the same as on my Galaxy S2.
On the SGS2 I manage to easily get 3 to 4 hours of screen time before the battery goes down to the thirties/twenties and a lot more heavy usage than I've managed on the Sensation. I'm on my second battery cycle and I really hope it improves because I'm very underwhelmed so far.
eadred said:
That's a very intersting battery you got here. It has bigger capacity than the original one. Does it have the same size? Were you able to fit it in and put the original cover back? Have you noticed a noticeable improvement in battery life or is it just scam?
I don't have the tmo 4g, I have the european version, but I believe it should work too, shouldn't it?
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I found an even larger battery:
http://uk-batteries-galore.co.uk/HTC/32640-Sensation.html
I might wanna give this one a shot, but I am a bit afraid putting battery not manufactured by htc in my phone.
Guys if bothered to look in the Accessories thread, you'd see that there is 1900 battery which some people already have and are very impressed with it.
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Charging the battery
The battery is partially charged when shipped. Before you turn on and start using HTC Sensation, it is recommended that you charge the battery. Some batteries perform best after several full charge/discharge cycles.
I spoke to a HTC REP once regarding batt life on my DHD
He advised a calibration as follows for HTC phones
Make sure fastboot is off.
1. when your battery is low, do a full charge for about 8 hours, your light should now be green. once its full, disconnected the phone
2. Fully switch off the phone(pull battery out if needed then put in). and plug in charger again for an hour, the light will actually be orange even though it was green before you turned it off.
and your screen should load the charging icon for when its turned off.
3.once it is green, turn on the phone. (put in pins or passwords etc) leave the phone on for a minute, then fully turn off again.
4. charge again for an hour and your charging indicator should be green and your battery is calibrated.!
Spybreak said:
My phone has been unplugged for 10 hours, I have 1h 17 minutes of display on time, taking 67% of battery. The rest is spread between Cell standby 11%, Wi-Fi 11%, Phone Idle 8% and Maps 3%.
It is now standing at 29% battery. I find that awful and can't believe any of you say it is normal. I have disabled HTC Hub and Sense sync and all the settings are pretty much the same as on my Galaxy S2.
On the SGS2 I manage to easily get 3 to 4 hours of screen time before the battery goes down to the thirties/twenties and a lot more heavy usage than I've managed on the Sensation. I'm on my second battery cycle and I really hope it improves because I'm very underwhelmed so far.
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With all due respect....how is that awful?? It's fantastic....
I think you're too caught up in the percentage number the stats page shows for battery use. It doesn't matter one bit if that graffic shows the display at 99.99%. As long as you're getting a full day out of your Sensation....isn't that all that really matters? Or am I confused by what bothers you?? Sounds to me like you're getting a full day...unless you don't sleep??
You've been unplugged for 10 hours and it seems as if you have another 2-4 hours left with that 30%.... Whats wrong with that? It's great.
This is not a Nokia 6133 It's a dual-core superphone, with a 4.3" qHD display.
Of course by the nature of the tech, amoled will be more efficient with regards to display...but as far as I can tell, the GS2 doesn't last any longer than this phone on a regular day to day basis under normal to heavy use.
I get 12-16 hours on a charge with fairly heavy use. Sync, WiFi, Calls, Web, GPS...nothing disabled or throttled.
I wouldn't get caught up with that % number in the battery stats....it's misleading....big time.
Condition the battery properly....you'll never have any battery issues...unless it's faulty.
Also people just need to be realistic with regards to battery life.... A gallon of gasoline will get you much further in a VW Bug than a Bugatti....
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i heard from my friend that HTC need to do battery calibration. is it true??
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There is an app to calibrate your battery, but you need to be rooted. Go to www.teamroyal.net and there is instructions that you MUST follow. Read up on it now so you can be prepared for when we get root. You also ONLY want to calibrate your battery once every 4-6 weeks, and only if it needs it. Doing it too often can fry your battery.
I know this doesn't directly answer your question, but I hope it will help many once we get root.
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ikhzter said:
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Charging the battery
The battery is partially charged when shipped. Before you turn on and start using HTC Sensation, it is recommended that you charge the battery. Some batteries perform best after several full charge/discharge cycles.
I spoke to a HTC REP once regarding batt life on my DHD
He advised a calibration as follows for HTC phones
Make sure fastboot is off.
1. when your battery is low, do a full charge for about 8 hours, your light should now be green. once its full, disconnected the phone
2. Fully switch off the phone(pull battery out if needed then put in). and plug in charger again for an hour, the light will actually be orange even though it was green before you turned it off.
and your screen should load the charging icon for when its turned off.
3.once it is green, turn on the phone. (put in pins or passwords etc) leave the phone on for a minute, then fully turn off again.
4. charge again for an hour and your charging indicator should be green and your battery is calibrated.!
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for step 1 is it after 8 hours i disconnect the phone even though it will be green light earlier???
Hi folks - this is the first thread I have started, hence requesting the non-noobs to go easy on me... (this forum is a scary-kind-of-cool)
I mustered up the courage to install Infused 1.5.0 on my stock... the instructions were superb and everything went great... really enjoying the improved speed and looks. But my battery life has degraded. It has been more than a week since I flashed my phone - and it is only getting worse. Now I have read a lot about how Infused is getting great battery life for some folks... and i have gone through those threads, trying to figure out what I am doing wrong. This is my typical usage profile
1) I put the phone on charging before I go to sleep... when I wake up (around 7 AM) it is fully charged.
2) I quickly check overnight messages, finish the daily ablutions, and 30 min later when I check the phone it is already at 95%.
3) By 10 AM, I have made a few long phone calls (no bluetooth) (totalling 60-90 minutes) - and the battery is down to 75%
4) At work I use a bluetooth A2DP headset - maybe 30-40 min of calls and by 12 I am at 50%.
5) More calls in the afternoon, intermitted mail checking and sometimes 30-40 minutes of music streaming on my bluetooth headset - and by 6 PM my phone is down to critical level 12-15%.
This is in now way the same experience that others are having with the Infused ROM and with the Infuse phone in general.
Other points:
6) I run Juice Defender... (don't know if it helps)
7) My screen brightness is just a few notches over 0%
8) My data is always on - except when I am using Wifi of course
9) I turn bluetooth off when I am not using it
So that's the story guys... and I would eternally grateful if the awesome folks out here can help me figure out what I am doing wrong... or there is some logic behind the sad battery life of what is otherwise the best phone that I have ever owned.
It depends how long Infused has been running on your system. After about 3 days I noticed my phone was adjusting to the ROM and the battery life improved significantly. Aside from that, try this trick. Drain your battery next to nothing and then charge all the way. Do this a couple of times. Not quite sure about the logistics but it seems to work. Another thing that has improved my battery life is to make sure I don't have background apps running. You can check this by going into apps > manage apps > and then running. Sometimes Media Hub will begin a background process and that eats up a whopping 8 MBs alone. Force close these pointless background apps and you should see an improvement there as well.
have you conditioned the battery and reset battery stats?
popesmasseuse said:
It depends how long Infused has been running on your system. After about 3 days I noticed my phone was adjusting to the ROM and the battery life improved significantly. Aside from that, try this trick. Drain your battery next to nothing and then charge all the way. Do this a couple of times. Not quite sure about the logistics but it seems to work. Another thing that has improved my battery life is to make sure I don't have background apps running. You can check this by going into apps > manage apps > and then running. Sometimes Media Hub will begin a background process and that eats up a whopping 8 MBs alone. Force close these pointless background apps and you should see an improvement there as well.
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Thanks popesmasseuse (you really aren't are you?)... the ROM has been running now for a week... gets worse rather than better. I do typically wait for my battery to drain completely before I charge it... but when I do have to do it at 7 PM - then I can never charge it fully, before I have to start using it again. I wonder if the fact that my phone goes through "micro charges" is a reason for my declining battery life...
Will check the running apps... and see if closing them improves things... thanks!
Fact: Installing a ROM greatly improves battery life... Try it....
Turn of GPS and Bluetooth when not in use.
Same here I uninstalled media hub... period... just useless...
Phone calls are a pretty heavy battery drain. Sounds like you're in call for hours each day. Most people don't talk on the phone more than a few minutes a day. Poor signal will also significantly reduce your battery life... how many bars you usually have at work?
My battery life got better the longer I had the infused ROM. But personally I only talk on the phone maybe a total of an hour each day, but I am constantly using internet and youtube, and if I have spare time I'm using my Kindle app to read some books. I keep my GPS, sync, and wifi on all day long and my brightness all the way up (I just can't stand a dim screen lol) and by the time I got home today my battery was at 40%, which I am perfectly fine with.
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Phone calls are a pretty heavy battery drain. Sounds like you're in call for hours each day. Most people don't talk on the phone more than a few minutes a day. Poor signal will also significantly reduce your battery life... how many bars you usually have at work?
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Ah...the man himself.
Yes I talk a lot on the phone - nature of the job. 3 hours minimum in a day. Signal at home is terrible - 15% strength... that could be the reason why the battery runs dry after the morning routine. Any way to offset that?
At work signal is great. But in office I also tend to use my desk phone more...
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Err... no... Noob alert!!!
How does one do that?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=14912331&postcount=7
Read this post in another battery thread I am doing this right now to see how it performs afterwards.
Read the thread in my sig.
Never use task killers.
For me, battery life on phones gets good after about 2 weeks or so.
With light to medium use I can easily go for 2+ days.
Consider not streaming music through Bluetooth. Also don't auto sync stuff every 15 mins. If you can use Gmail they use Push notification. I'm on my phone all day literally and I make it home with some battery left. BTW connect to a Wi-Fi when ever possible, 3g data streaming will kill your battery quick.
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Blackberrynomore said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=14912331&postcount=7
Read this post in another battery thread I am doing this right now to see how it performs afterwards.
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has anyone tried this method?
It's a Lithium-Ion battery which means it does NOT respond to "conditioning".
"Reconditioning a battery involves completely discharging the energy from a battery then recharging the
battery. Li-Ion batteries do not require reconditioning to maintain good battery performance since Li-Ion
does not have a memory effect. It is necessary to complete drain and then recharge a Li-Ion battery in
order to determine its current capacity level, but that is not the same thing as reconditioning the battery. Li-
Ion batteries do not have a condition that needs to be reconditioned." lxe.com
andrawer said:
It's a Lithium-Ion battery which means it does NOT respond to "conditioning".
"Reconditioning a battery involves completely discharging the energy from a battery then recharging the
battery. Li-Ion batteries do not require reconditioning to maintain good battery performance since Li-Ion
does not have a memory effect. It is necessary to complete drain and then recharge a Li-Ion battery in
order to determine its current capacity level, but that is not the same thing as reconditioning the battery. Li-
Ion batteries do not have a condition that needs to be reconditioned." lxe.com
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Keiht's tutorial is effectively a technique called "bump charging" for putting that last extra percent or two of charge into a battery. However - with Li-Ion batteries, charging like this will SEVERELY reduce their charge cycle lifetime.
The only thing that "calibration" should affect is how your device reports battery charge level, NOT actual power usage. You should get the same total battery life whether your device is "calibrated" or not, with the exception possibly of the device shutting off prematurely because it thinks the battery is lower than it really is.
Entropy512 said:
Keiht's tutorial is effectively a technique called "bump charging" for putting that last extra percent or two of charge into a battery. However - with Li-Ion batteries, charging like this will SEVERELY reduce their charge cycle lifetime.
The only thing that "calibration" should affect is how your device reports battery charge level, NOT actual power usage. You should get the same total battery life whether your device is "calibrated" or not, with the exception possibly of the device shutting off prematurely because it thinks the battery is lower than it really is.
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I would have to agree with you. I followed his directions as i was having horrible battery issues after going to 1.5.0 and it seems to have helped the reporting as far as I can tell. I think the big problem and it is only a guess is how the phone is reporting the battery condition not actual battery left. In any event I am running JD and the longer I run with 1.5.0 the battery seems to be lasting a lot longer but I have ti disable most everything which hobbles the phones best features to get that battery life still searching for the perfect solution.
Have to charge almost twice a day... I believe it happened after latest 1.45.531.1 update....
Disabled all animation, got auto adjust for display, disabled all what I could.. Still gives me 12 -16 hours on standby only....NOT even using the phone!!!!
Does anyone have something like that??? Or there is some remedy I skipped?
Sorry if I repeat someone's question.
Running full stock, HTC battery.
Thanks in advance!!
Tester.
PS. Recently exchanged the phone.... First one R.I.P......died completely, didn't even charge.
Is there a chance they swapped a refurbished one on me??? How to find out???
can you provide a screenshot of the battery usage graph? also, have you tried getting an aftermarket, bigger battery such as the anker?
I was the same way as you. I checked my battery graph, and standby was using something like 80% of the battery with almost everything turned off. By the time I got home from work I would need to charge it immediately. I bought one of the Anker batteries on Amazon for $15 bucks or so, and I'm now getting about 2 days for a charge. I don't know what it was with my battery, because it sounds like my experience wasn't typical, but I didn't really feel like going through HTC when I could just pay the $15.
I'm with ya...
This phone was running PERFECT prior to the HTC update. Now I'm having a plethora amount of problems, including the battery. For example, prior to the update I would get 13-16 hours on HEAVY usage... Moderate usage? Try a day or day in a half. Now take today for example, I unplugged my phone a little before 7am and I had 20 something percent 4 hours later.
I'm telling you, that HTC update really messed this phone up IMO.
Thanks, guys!!
Will try to get Anker battery, I believe it's 1900 mAh.
But again something running on the background with that update. We'll see.
I'll try to get the graph, maybe someone'll get some sense of it...
Much appreciated,
Tester.
here are the battery stats...
Display..........74%
Cell standby...13%
Phone idle......11%
Voice calls......2%
THAT'S IT!!! Nothing else is running...... SUX...
Still gives 12 - 16 hours of life on almost idle......
I hate to say it,but if you're battery's dying a lot faster after an update,a bigger battery won't help much.
I'd be getting in touch with HTC and ask them what the heck is going on.
Really annoyed with the battery performance. I checked and only display is using 90% of battery. Tried everything to reduce it but no change.
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Tester30 said:
Have to charge almost twice a day... I believe it happened after latest 1.45.531.1 update....
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I've had the same issue since the update. My battery drains at a ridiculous rate. I've become really frustrated with the phone since. I rooted it and flashed a custom ROM in hopes of solving the problem but it's the same deal.
I've confirmed it's not the battery either since I've got another one I've tried and only get the same results. Even with Juice Defender running I get nowhere as great a battery life as I did before the update
I'm doing decent 8hrs 20,mins on batt. With 40% left mostly text and internet browsing
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Try clicking the graph at the top of the screen it will give you another screen that shows awake/screen time etc. Is your phone going to sleep when you screen turns off?
I was having the same problem and realized that some app was keeping my phone awake even though the screen was off. I uninstalled 80% of the crap I had installed and now my phone sleeps like it should and battery lasts amazingly long time.
Tester30 said:
here are the battery stats...
Display..........74%
Cell standby...13%
Phone idle......11%
Voice calls......2%
THAT'S IT!!! Nothing else is running...... SUX...
Still gives 12 - 16 hours of life on almost idle......
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anurbanlegend said:
Try clicking the graph at the top of the screen it will give you another screen that shows awake/screen time etc. Is your phone going to sleep when you screen turns off?
I was having the same problem and realized that some app was keeping my phone awake even though the screen was off. I uninstalled 80% of the crap I had installed and now my phone sleeps like it should and battery lasts amazingly long time.
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How can you tell if your phone is going to sleep when you lock the screen? What is a good method for this? And if I find it its not sleeping when it should, is there a way to find the culprit easily?
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How can you tell if your phone is going to sleep when you lock the screen? What is a good method for this? And if I find it its not sleeping when it should, is there a way to find the culprit easily?
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Click on the graph in battery stats, it should show awake time and screen on. If your awake time is constant when the screen on time isn't, then chances are you've got an bad app somewhere preventing the phone from sleeping
my battery life was plain **** on 2.3.3., device was running hot all the time (=waste of energy), charging took ridiculous 4h+! When I took it off at the charger around 23:00 the battery was dead at 14:00 the next day with most time being idle!
Since my update to 2.3.4 things got so much better. charging takes around 2h and battery finally lasted a whole day and had 40% juice left in the evening.
Since I got my 2 Ankers+charger for 20$, battery life is crazy now. Been on one charge for 2d2h and still had 16% left. Pushmail on, wifi on (cellular data only when not at home), brigthness at 100%, taking video, pictues and some navigation, messaging and phonecalls. Oh yeah and a few minutes of flashlight use
I would say between slight and medium use.
If 2.3.4 worsened your batterylife, contact HTC or your vendor.
I now replaced the battery at 16% with the other Anker because I still need to do my 5 charge cycles on that one to calibrate it.
Here's an example of the graph. At the bottom you can see awake and screen on time. I pulled phone of charger last night, did some browsing, then ran for an hour with music playing in the background (you can see the small green bar on awake even when screen is off). After I surfed a little and left it off the charger when I went to bed. The phone is properly sleeping when the screen is off and almost 16 hours and still have 62%.
Before I uninstalled the apps, the awake time was solid green across the screen.
Anker battery worked wonders on my device. Before I would have to throw it on the charger after lunch as I like to go for a beer after work and the stock battery would never make it that far... Now when I get home from the bar I still have ~30% battery. Anker battery FTW!
flash a custom rom and u will go gaga over ur battery life. definitely works for me. on standby overnight drain 0-1%.
I found out that if you don't have strong signal at your location your battery drains pretty fast that's why I always connect my phone to WiFi at my apartment where my phone looses signal sometimes. now I lose just 1-2% of power during a night.
Sorry to hear about your battery troubles. A couple days ago I rooted and switched to "Android Revolution HD 3.0.4" and my battery life seems pretty solid. I wasn't having battery life issues prior to this though.
I'm currently in the process of calibrating the battery:
- drain it mostly
- turn off
- plug it in overnight while still off
- in the morning unplug, wait 15 minutes, replug for a few hours; do this ONLY ONCE or you may damage the battery
- power on, immediately go to recovery, advanced, reset battery stats
- start normally
- drain battery until it shuts down; a continuous stress test or stability test app is probably ideal
- once it shuts off, turn it on again to double-check that it's dead; it should only come on for a second or two
- while off, plug in and allow to fully charge; no fooling around with plugging/unplugging, just normal
- calibration complete!
I think you can follow a similar procedure (minus clearing battery stats) to refresh the battery calibration even without rooting/custom recovery. I've read the effectiveness is similar. The phone just needs to be retaught what "full" and "empty" mean, all in one charge cycle. If you calibrate it wrong you could have issues with it shutting off while still reading ~15% battery life.
Anyway, as I said, I'm in the process of doing this. Currently I'm in the "drain it" phase... with my screen at maximum brightness (remaining on), overclocked to 1.5 ghz, I've been running "StabilityTest" (from market) for one hour and fifteen minutes. It stresses both cores as well as the RAM. At this time, my battery is at around 30-40% or so, and it's getting really hot! The phone's temperature is reading as 54.8 degrees!
Also, yesterday I used the GPS for about 4 hours before it died, this was prior to any calibration attempt. I think this is within typical battery life considering that the screen stays on.
TL;DR: Maybe you just need to try a custom rom or recalibrate your battery. Miscalibrated battery can be caused by flashing/updating a rom, I imagine even when it's an OTA. Sense is crippling your phone anyway, you might as well give it a try IMHO.
get yourself an anker battery..I havent charged my phone since the day before and now i have 20% left! heavy usage
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