We need to be precise in what we communicate in order not to have misunderstandings. Many threads disagree on how good the battery is on th G2x. I agree that 6-8 hours of continuous use is great, that is if you're literally using nonstop, without having the screen shut off.The problem that many users are complaining about is that the battery keeps draining at a unacceptable rate even when the phone is just on standby. The excuse is that this is a smart phone and it has to ping the towers in order to receive calls.
Well my last smart phone was the HTC Shadow which was a Windows based operating system and the battery would never drain at 5-15% an hour just on standby. I did some reading on many sites, and the majority consensus is only android handsets have this huge battery drain problem when it's not being used but just on standby. So what gives? Is it because of google maps? Or some other google program that has to constantly access your phone even when you yourself aren't activley using it?
I've notice on my juice defender log that when I'm not using my phone it shows every few minutes something about accessing a schedule and data. What could this be? Back ground data? The only way I can get the phone not to drain excessivley when on standby is to put it on airplane mode. The bad battery drain when phone isn't being used has something to do with the Android operating system and the cellphones radio being very active even when not in use.
Factory Reset fixes that
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Factory Reset fixes that
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Believe me I tried resetting it twice, and it does nothing for improving the battery drain.
If any one has juice defender go to status tab and check your log. Even with the supposedly data turned off it'll show the the phone us accessing some schedule or data every few minutes.Maybe one of the knowledgeable developers can look into this and tell us what is happening and create a fix.
You may have a bad battery.
The battery that came with my G2x in the box (manuf. date of 2011-04-06) had the insane battery drain where I can watch it drop. I got a replacement thru Tmo (manuf. date of 2011-04-28), which has been outstanding.
Prior to the new battery, I lasted about 7 hours with moderate/heavy use. The new battery just clocked in at almost 16 hours the other day.
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You may have a bad battery.
The battery that came with my G2x in the box (manuf. date of 2011-04-06) had the insane battery drain where I can watch it drop. I got a replacement thru Tmo (manuf. date of 2011-04-28), which has been outstanding.
Prior to the new battery, I lasted about 7 hours with moderate/heavy use. The new battery just clocked in at almost 16 hours the other day.
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We'll see, I just spoke to t mobile customer rep, they shipped me out a new one which should get here on the 3rd. Although, I didn't appreciate them charging me $10 for shipping. 16 hours of heavy use and I'll be content, if not I'm getting me the mugen 4500mah extended battery. So with o out you touching the phone how much percent does it drain in an hour?
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We'll see, I just spoke to t mobile customer rep, they shipped me out a new one which should get here on the 3rd. Although, I didn't appreciate them charging me $10 for shipping. 16 hours of heavy use and I'll be content, if not I'm getting me the mugen 4500mah extended battery. So with o out you touching the phone how much percent does it drain in an hour?
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Right now I'm at 99%, phone has been unplugged for 2hrs 34mins. I'm on wifi at the moment, but I would have drained anyway on the old battery with this same setup.
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Right now I'm at 99%, phone has been unplugged for 2hrs 34mins. I'm on wifi at the moment, but I would have drained anyway on the old battery with this same setup.
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Do you have juice defender installed?
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Do you have juice defender installed?
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Yup, same exact setup with old and new battery.
I'll try when I have the time and patience for it, but maybe someone can perform an experiment by charging to full then just let the phone sit on standby until the battery dies. Do this with wifi, bluetooth, juice defender and gps off. Log how long it took to die, then run the same test again, but with juice defender turned on. If it can hold it's charge for 2-3 days I'll be very happy, but if it dies out in 16 hours just being idle and on standby then somethings wrong.
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I'll try when I have the time and patience for it, but maybe someone can perform an experiment by charging to full then just let the phone sit on standby until the battery dies. Do this with wifi, bluetooth, juice defender and gps off. Log how long it took to die, then run the same test again, but with juice defender turned on. If it can hold it's charge for 2-3 days I'll be very happy, but if it dies out in 16 hours just being idle and on standby then somethings wrong.
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JD only kicks in when I'm on cell data. With wifi on, it never activates I believe. Unless I'm looking at this wrong.
I was getting horrible battery life when I first got mine. I couldn't go 8 hours without it dying, and that was not even using the phone...on standby! I tried a toggle switch for data to turn it off and on when using it, but it still died. Next, I tried a 2g-4g toggle switch. Battery life is flat out amazing now. I can go almost 8 hours on a full charge and be on maybe 95%!!! I think a lot of it has to do with my office building and not getting the best reception. I would tend to bounce back and forth from edge to 4g all the time. Anyway, I use switch pro for the toggle widget, but give it a shot for a few days.
Switchpro only has a 2G/3G toggle. How did you get the 4G toggle or did you mistake what it was called.
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I had a similar problem with my first G2x. With the screen turned off and in stand-by the battery would drain 15-20% per hour. I even bought 3 cheap batteries from China and the results were the same. I then had T-Mobile send me a replacement G2x. The new G2x drains about 1% per hour in stand-by. I even get 1% drain with the 3 cheap batteries. So it appears the problem was the phone. I had tried CM7 and Eaglesblood on the first G2x and it didn't stop the drain.
I had terrible life when first started, than I did the factory reset and the battery conditioning thing.
Took it off charge over 30 hours ago, it still has 10% left. Within that it had a solid 2 hours use of edge/3g/4g internet (Searching for towers as I was on a train). And a good hour of me using it on wireless for checking emails and browsing while at home and work.
Note that I have GPS turned off, and the phone is on a wireless network for almost all of its idle time. NO Juice Defender, no data stwitching, no rooting. Stock standard, although I did follow the advice here and not activate any of the TMobile apps.
Pretty happy with it now.
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I just got the Captivate on Sunday so maybe it needs some time to settle in or whatnot, but I thought I'd make a post about its battery life. How's everyones experience with the battery so far? I love this phone to death, but it seems like the battery life sucks so far. It also seems to take a really really long time to charge up.
I have the display at 11% and haven't done anything with the phone at all today and I'm already at 80%.
3h 12m since unplugged. Says what's using my battery is:
Display: 35%
Cell Standby: 22%
Phone Idle: 15%
Bezier - Live Wallpaper: 7%
Android System: 6%
Advanced Taskkiller Free: 5%
Alarm Clock Plus: 4%
Android OS: 3%
I have GPS, Wifi, Bluetooth all off. Autobrightness is off, I just have it set to 11%.
80% after 3 hours of doing absolutely nothing to the phone doesn't seem right. I'm killing apps I'm not using and the only thing more I could really do is kill the live wall paper but it doesn't seem to be taking that much battery life and I really like it.
Any thoughts?
Also it seems to take like an hour and a half to get like 15% charge when plugged into an outlet. It just takes absolutely forever to charge it.
Yea my battery life is also draining really fast. It tells me that the screen is using 73% of the battery though....
Any thoughts?
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Yea my battery life is also draining really fast. It tells me that the screen is using 73% of the battery though....
Any thoughts?
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When I first got it I used it till it died pretty much and then charged it all the way back to full. Wasn't sure if this was necessary or not, but I'm just pointing out that I did it. I have obviously been using it a bunch when I first got it, but now I'm not, trying to see what kind of battery life I have. I haven't done anything except look at the phone a couple times this morning. Haven't even run an app.
Yea same here. Im doing the exact Same thing. I unplugged at like 8am and right now im at 80%
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I unplugged my phone about 3 hours ago and I am at 93% battery life.
I am using Juice Defender, and I kill all apps that I don't want open.
I actually think this phone has great battery life. It typically takes a few charge cycles for the battery to settle in. I abuse the phone a lot and it lasts all day for me. Compared to my tilt2 this thing has much better battery. I would suggest that you guys run the battery all the way down, and let it charge fully overnight a few days in a row, and you should see and increase in performance.
Current Battery: 74% Unplugged for 5hrs 14 minutes
Display: 41%
voice calls: 37%
standby:11%
Idle:7%
android system: 3%
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I unplugged my phone about 3 hours ago and I am at 93% battery life.
I am using Juice Defender, and I kill all apps that I don't want open.
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I just installed juicedefender. Looks interesting. We'll see if it makes a difference.
Running down the battery to about 5 or 10 percent and then charging all the way up several times definitely helps. Its been almost eleven hrs since I unplugged and I'm at 73%
Let it run down and then charge all the way up several times. Worked with my phone.
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My Battery Life on my bold was better but then it is a different phone and the battery was almost 2 years old but still worked great. Now my battery is at 22% and when I left a 8:50 am PDT, I pulled it off of charge, and I am playing music to intentionally get the battery down to 5% or less before I charge it. Not bad considering, I am constantly doing a ton of stuff, browsing, playing games, playing music the first time, and running google earth/maps as well as you tube videos.
Cheers,
Charlie
ive been unplugged for 2 hours and 27 minutes and im down to 67%
Haven't done much with the phone all day. Installed juicedefender. Left it on easy settings. Not sure how much it's helping so far, if anything. This is my current breakdown: 8h, 48m since unplugged... 35% battery remaining. Display: 45%, cell standby: 16%, phone idle: 10%, Live Wallpaper: 7%, android system: 5%, beautiful widgets, maps, speed test, android OS and advanced task killer 3%, 3%, 3%, 3%, 2% respectively. Still think it's not doing what it should. A good majority of the day I've left it in the off position, not messing with it. 30% by the time I leave work really kind of sucks.
I got the phone Sunday. Used the crap out of it Sunday and Monday and let it run almost down to 0% (it was warning me to plug it in) then let it charge to 100% which took hours and hours and hours. I remember when I had my Iphone down to like 60% when I left work I'd enable pandora streaming and plug it into the car charger and be back up to 85% by the time I got home at least, and it's a half hour drive.
When I plug it into the car charger or a regular outlet I'm lucky if it goes up 2% after a half hour. I'm starting to wonder if this thing has a bad battery.
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ive been unplugged for 2 hours and 27 minutes and im down to 67%
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What is your phone's uptime?
I've been unplugged since 6:45am this morning.. its about 2:40 now and I am at 73%.
I've been downloading apps, playing with androidVNC and just continually tinkering with settings.
My uptime is 111:40:00 and its been 7h 50m since unplugged.
I'm using launcher pro.
I have a bit of speculation that Touchwiz has something to do with it including its special widgets.
Something isn't right with that.
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Haven't done much with the phone all day. Installed juicedefender. Left it on easy settings. Not sure how much it's helping so far, if anything. This is my current breakdown: 8h, 48m since unplugged... 35% battery remaining. Display: 45%, cell standby: 16%, phone idle: 10%, Live Wallpaper: 7%, android system: 5%, beautiful widgets, maps, speed test, android OS and advanced task killer 3%, 3%, 3%, 3%, 2% respectively. Still think it's not doing what it should. A good majority of the day I've left it in the off position, not messing with it. 30% by the time I leave work really kind of sucks.
I got the phone Sunday. Used the crap out of it Sunday and Monday and let it run almost down to 0% (it was warning me to plug it in) then let it charge to 100% which took hours and hours and hours. I remember when I had my Iphone down to like 60% when I left work I'd enable pandora streaming and plug it into the car charger and be back up to 85% by the time I got home at least, and it's a half hour drive.
When I plug it into the car charger or a regular outlet I'm lucky if it goes up 2% after a half hour. I'm starting to wonder if this thing has a bad battery.
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What the iPhone was doing is called a rapid charge. That 85% is not equivalent to an 85% charge that you would get from discharging from 100%
You should read this article.
hxxp://geekfor.me/faq/you-shouldnt-be-using-a-task-killer-with-android/
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What the iPhone was doing is called a rapid charge. That 85% is not equivalent to an 85% charge that you would get from discharging from 100%
You should read this article.
hxxp://geekfor.me/faq/you-shouldnt-be-using-a-task-killer-with-android/
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Fair enough. I'm very interested in checking out this article, but I've gotta run now. I was going to give the GPS one more shot on the way home. If I can't get a lock and the battery doesn't get much of a charge being plugged in the whole way I think I may take it back to the AT&T store and see if they'll swap it out or even give me a battery replacement.
Should I reverse the root before I do that, if I do? I know that's entirely off topic. Should I just remove the superuser permission app (if I even can)?
Additionally, just throwing this out there anyway, according to this review: http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2010/07/23/att-samsung-captivate-review/ their camera is awesome without any settings changes.. I find the regular camera kind of blows. I'll upload some pictures if anyone wants to see em, but I used my phone, on the basic settings, to take pictures of my Iphone which I was selling on ebay and the pictures came out kind of crappy, especially for being 5mega pixel. The video camera looks great, but the picture part of it I am really surprised at. My overarching point is I think there might just be some lemon phones out there possibly, and I think I might have gotten one. I'm running into all the major problems that some people are complaining about. Camera, GPS locking, battery, lagginess of the UI, etc. I think I'm gonna try to get AT&T to swap my phone out.
LIke said in other threads, mine just draining like crazy before but now it seems to be pretty bearable. Here are the things that REALLY helped me:
1.Completely drain the phone till its dead.
2.Fully Charge the phone with it off! Yes you can live without it for a little while
3.Disable the live wallpaper,
4.Use Launchpro and heaurisitc which is the vibration when the 4 buttons at the bottom are used.
5.Reduce vibration overall
6.Dim Screen
7.Turn off everything except I run wireless and fring 24/7 basically
AND this phone is fast,
I dunno if its available through the free launchpro, but I paid for the plus and its sooo fast.
1.I just disable all the animation crap and everything and make everything level 8 on speed of opening up
2.Disable the elastic animation when moving from screen to screen....
3. I would really suggest people pay for launchpro plus, cause its cheap and the work is almost gods gift to cell phones ahahhaa....
Hope this helps....
7am and now its 1PM with Wifi and Fring on since 10am and last checked its at 80% with a 15 minute phone call. and messaging probably 30 messages.
I am going to drain it till its dead tonight again and fully charge with phone off again. I think this helps a lot.
I unplugged my phone at 8:30...listened to an hour of Pandora, checked email, and was on Twitter...down to 85% at 10:30 which is pretty good to me. I also don't have a task killer installed for what its worth.
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Well Update around 30 minuets my phone completely died for the first time so I am charging it now, and I am hopeful that it will get better soon.
HTH,
Charlie
Get rid of the live wallpaper, that uses quite a bit of battery
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I just want to mention that I swapped out my captivate at the AT&T store yesterday. I let it almost die, then charged it to full, unplugged it for 5 minutes, charged it to full again, unplugged it for 5 minutes and charged it to full again and left it connected over night.
I've been using the phone all day today, changed settings, texted, generally used it, since about 6:45AM and I'm at 71% battery at 11:35. Insanely better. By a lot. With the old phone I'd be at 30 or 40% by now, honestly.
Additionally, the screen seems much brighter, even at the lowest setting. The camera seems to take better pictures and everything seems much snappier and quicker on the phone, by a lot.
I got the GPS to lock on once, and while it wasn't perfect, it followed me, and then I couldn't get it to lock again unfortunately, but I'll keep messing with it. I think it's a samsung update issue anyway, with regards to the GPS.
I really and truly believe that I got a lemon phone. I know that the AT&T store by me sold out on the first day so I definitely got this one from a different batch. This is like a totally different phone. If anyone else is having these kinds of problems with lag and battery life and things, try getting the AT&T store to swap out your phone. You have 30 days.
The iPhone and many other phones like the Droid charge faster for some reason.
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Is there any way to get this thing to last over 10 hours with moderate/medium usage? I mean I hate to compare, but I was able to use my iphone 4 hard periodically through the day and be at 40% around midnight, but I have to stay using my captivate very lightly after about 10pm, and I usually unplug around 12 to 1pm..
I don't want to have to sacrifice majors perks of why I switched to android just to get a full day out of it. I've tried a lot of the suggestions I'm the forums, but nothing makes a notice difference, or makes it a fame changer as to where I'll get a full day of moderate internet/media usage
Thanks in advance.
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Have you tried draining and recharging the battery as other threads have suggested? I usually unplug around 9-10am and I don't get battery warning until near midnight or later.
I keep seeing people complain about the battery life constantly.. but to me coming from my bb bold it seems that the battery is lasting way longer then i expected.. first couple charges i let the phone drain down till it shut off, and then charged it 100%.. its still new to me so im constantly playing with it and changing the menus around.. i try to make sure almost everything is closed when im not using it.. cause im sure that eats battery life..
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Have you tried draining and recharging the battery as other threads have suggested? I usually unplug around 9-10am and I don't get battery warning until near midnight or later.
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I did it once, but I booted back up the phone a few minutes after I plugged it in, will leaving it off while it does a full 100% charge noticeably increase battery life?
Do you have widgets updating frequently? How frequently? Maybe just too many updating widgets. I get about 18 hours with the screen on for 4.
18 hours also
I'm getting 16-18 hours of use with about 4-5 hours of screen time. Better than expected.
Today I used my phone as much as I used my iPhone 4 on a regular basis. My phone has been off the charger for just over 12 hours and I have 70% of my battery left.
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I'm getting 16-18 hours of use with about 4-5 hours of screen time. Better than expected.
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I'm around that too, I use a black background to save power and I have about 5-6 hours of screen time and I watch a movie on it every day (treadmill at the gym)
I only get low battery around midnight
I use advanced task killer and set it to when the screen is off to kill apps, aggressive mode, I can go about 20hrs before I need to recharge. 5-6hrs screen time.
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Is there any way to get this thing to last over 10 hours with moderate/medium usage? I mean I hate to compare, but I was able to use my iphone 4 hard periodically through the day and be at 40% around midnight, but I have to stay using my captivate very lightly after about 10pm, and I usually unplug around 12 to 1pm..
I don't want to have to sacrifice majors perks of why I switched to android just to get a full day out of it. I've tried a lot of the suggestions I'm the forums, but nothing makes a notice difference, or makes it a fame changer as to where I'll get a full day of moderate internet/media usage
Thanks in advance.
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One thing about android is it has true multitasking. Combined with some apps which do NOT close properly and continue to use up CPU this can drain your batter very fast.
In the battery Info your TimeSpentAwake should be ~ the same as Display on time. If not something is not closing properly. Use OSMonitor to check which program it is and either uninstall it or make sure to kill it with task killer after using.
I have the M110S (Korean Galaxy S - I get 16-18 Hrs with moderate use, but M110S comes w/ 2 batteries so i just swap )
Yeah based on people who are getting good battery life mine is absolutely terrible. I am on my fourth full discharge. I have had my phone off the charger for 2 hours and I'm already at 87 percent. I listened to about 45 minutes of cached slacker radio and like 2 posts on xda app
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My battery went down 2 percent just posting that last post
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I think I am going to have the phone switched out at best buy today
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Just to comment on my battery life. I got my phone saturday (2.5 days ago) and its been on the whole time with medium usage. When I got the phone the pamphlet inside said "fully charge before you turn on" and thats what I did. My battery is at 41% and the only time that I have charged it since is when I am connecting it to my PC for a very short amount of time. I have had great battery life so it is possible. I am very impressed with it.
Yes...my battery life has been good...
Screen brightness all the way down (auto brightness off) *same for the browser brightness
Screen timeout 15 secs (annoying sometimes so maybe 30 secs)
No window animations
Power saving mode off (no point in having the lcd adjust if its already as low as it will go)
I also dont have any widgets that update in the background, however i'd imagine one or two wouldnt affect the battery much
These settings have worked out for me and i use the phone moderately with 2 hourly updating email accounts.....
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Battery life for me has been decent. I consider myself a moderate user and I can go from 7:30am till I go to bed at night without dying, but its close. Coming from an iPhone 2G, where with the same usage I could get 2-3 days on one charge, its a little disappointing. But it is what it is I guess. I have heard horror stories of EVO's only going 4-6 hours on a full charge, thats ridiculous.
But what gets me is all this nonsense about fully discharging before charging back up every time. These are Li-ion batteries, they are not Ni-cads, they will not get a "memory" if you dont fully discharge every time. Yes, its good the very first time, to fully charge it before using it, but after that, it doesnt really matter.
Also, one more thing I noticed. The phone will stop charging the battery the second its fully charged. So if your phone reaches 100% charge at like 2am, it stops charging at 2am and you are then going from 2am till whenever you take it off charge in the morning. I noticed this the other day. As soon as the phone told me it was fully charged, the battery icon turned into a normal battery icon even though it was still plugged in. So its possible that the phone is going for 4, 5, 6 hours off charge before you even wake up. What I do to make sure I'm at 100% when I leave, is when I get up I unplug it, use it for a minute then put back on charge while showering. Then when I leave for work, I know its fully charged at 100%.
I guess I'll be switching out phones at Best Buy today as well. Phone keeps losing 30-40% overnight (more like 5 hours max since I'm a night owl) even with everything turned off. When I do get back to a 90% charge before I leave for work at 8am, I'm usually left with 30-40% by 5pm after 15 texts or so and a few emails.
I am fairly sure all new batteries have a chip in them that regulates the power. So you HAVE to run it down to 0-5% and charge it back too 100% several times before the battery is even calibrated for use. That has to be why its 50/50 battery sucks battery is great, just let it drain and charge it again.
battery life simply not acceptable
Hey guys,
I know many people post on battery life.
Here is my situation.
I do not care about beauty, but functionality is a must.
I am in the hospital from ca 6am to 7Pm and I have Q4 call meaning every fourth night its to midnight. That is simply a fact of my life.
My requirement:
I need my phone to last for this duration without recharge.
1.)
I don't need or use widgets
2.)
I don't need or use a wallpaper other than a solid black background.
I do need and use:
the GSM radio and wifi both need to run the entire time and reception is what it is.
My applications of use:
merck manual, dynamed, epocrates the usual in my boat.
I really really want to use this phone, but battery life wise only my blackberry with extended battery and my iphone 4 can hack it.
If any of you have any suggestions on what I could do plz let me know. My last resort is carrying two batteries, but that would frankly be admitting that this phone is inferior to the iphone 4 which can hack a 20 hour usage day in my setting.
(I absolutely cannot turn wifi or 3G off both must run)
I am open to all suggestions including the task killr controversy or anything else constructive one may have. Any extended size batteries out there for the captivate?
Thanks a bunch in advance.
(Having had my secretary spend 4 hours rooting the phone and sideloading Merck manual is a testament to the pathetic entity that is AT&T by the way. If you have professional apps from an institutional subscription you cannot download the software from the market...)
PS: My secretary is not exactly a hacker so forgive the 4 hour timeframe.
I consider myself to be a heavy user!! I like to text, browse the web, listen to music (either from my own files or streaming,) check email and comment on facebook all throughout the day. I did that perfectly fine with my Bold 9700, that battery lasted a full day or more.
I had an iPhone 4 and my battery would not last my 8 hour work shift!! I either had a bad battery or who knows what was going on with that phone. I didn't even leave the apps running...the phone was nice, but that battery killed it for me. I don't understand how some people got a full day out of it.
On the Captivate the most I have gotten has been around 10 hours of use and that's not even using it how I normally like to. I stop charging it at 8:30 and my battery is 100% around 10am I'm already in my low 90's or upper 80's. I don't have any widgets updating, I have a black wallpaper, I don't have the haptic feedback on, and I sync email hourly.
Could my battery be bad?? How can some of you manage to get 16 or so hours out of it??
Have to charge almost twice a day... I believe it happened after latest 1.45.531.1 update....
Disabled all animation, got auto adjust for display, disabled all what I could.. Still gives me 12 -16 hours on standby only....NOT even using the phone!!!!
Does anyone have something like that??? Or there is some remedy I skipped?
Sorry if I repeat someone's question.
Running full stock, HTC battery.
Thanks in advance!!
Tester.
PS. Recently exchanged the phone.... First one R.I.P......died completely, didn't even charge.
Is there a chance they swapped a refurbished one on me??? How to find out???
can you provide a screenshot of the battery usage graph? also, have you tried getting an aftermarket, bigger battery such as the anker?
I was the same way as you. I checked my battery graph, and standby was using something like 80% of the battery with almost everything turned off. By the time I got home from work I would need to charge it immediately. I bought one of the Anker batteries on Amazon for $15 bucks or so, and I'm now getting about 2 days for a charge. I don't know what it was with my battery, because it sounds like my experience wasn't typical, but I didn't really feel like going through HTC when I could just pay the $15.
I'm with ya...
This phone was running PERFECT prior to the HTC update. Now I'm having a plethora amount of problems, including the battery. For example, prior to the update I would get 13-16 hours on HEAVY usage... Moderate usage? Try a day or day in a half. Now take today for example, I unplugged my phone a little before 7am and I had 20 something percent 4 hours later.
I'm telling you, that HTC update really messed this phone up IMO.
Thanks, guys!!
Will try to get Anker battery, I believe it's 1900 mAh.
But again something running on the background with that update. We'll see.
I'll try to get the graph, maybe someone'll get some sense of it...
Much appreciated,
Tester.
here are the battery stats...
Display..........74%
Cell standby...13%
Phone idle......11%
Voice calls......2%
THAT'S IT!!! Nothing else is running...... SUX...
Still gives 12 - 16 hours of life on almost idle......
I hate to say it,but if you're battery's dying a lot faster after an update,a bigger battery won't help much.
I'd be getting in touch with HTC and ask them what the heck is going on.
Really annoyed with the battery performance. I checked and only display is using 90% of battery. Tried everything to reduce it but no change.
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Tester30 said:
Have to charge almost twice a day... I believe it happened after latest 1.45.531.1 update....
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I've had the same issue since the update. My battery drains at a ridiculous rate. I've become really frustrated with the phone since. I rooted it and flashed a custom ROM in hopes of solving the problem but it's the same deal.
I've confirmed it's not the battery either since I've got another one I've tried and only get the same results. Even with Juice Defender running I get nowhere as great a battery life as I did before the update
I'm doing decent 8hrs 20,mins on batt. With 40% left mostly text and internet browsing
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Try clicking the graph at the top of the screen it will give you another screen that shows awake/screen time etc. Is your phone going to sleep when you screen turns off?
I was having the same problem and realized that some app was keeping my phone awake even though the screen was off. I uninstalled 80% of the crap I had installed and now my phone sleeps like it should and battery lasts amazingly long time.
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here are the battery stats...
Display..........74%
Cell standby...13%
Phone idle......11%
Voice calls......2%
THAT'S IT!!! Nothing else is running...... SUX...
Still gives 12 - 16 hours of life on almost idle......
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Try clicking the graph at the top of the screen it will give you another screen that shows awake/screen time etc. Is your phone going to sleep when you screen turns off?
I was having the same problem and realized that some app was keeping my phone awake even though the screen was off. I uninstalled 80% of the crap I had installed and now my phone sleeps like it should and battery lasts amazingly long time.
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How can you tell if your phone is going to sleep when you lock the screen? What is a good method for this? And if I find it its not sleeping when it should, is there a way to find the culprit easily?
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How can you tell if your phone is going to sleep when you lock the screen? What is a good method for this? And if I find it its not sleeping when it should, is there a way to find the culprit easily?
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Click on the graph in battery stats, it should show awake time and screen on. If your awake time is constant when the screen on time isn't, then chances are you've got an bad app somewhere preventing the phone from sleeping
my battery life was plain **** on 2.3.3., device was running hot all the time (=waste of energy), charging took ridiculous 4h+! When I took it off at the charger around 23:00 the battery was dead at 14:00 the next day with most time being idle!
Since my update to 2.3.4 things got so much better. charging takes around 2h and battery finally lasted a whole day and had 40% juice left in the evening.
Since I got my 2 Ankers+charger for 20$, battery life is crazy now. Been on one charge for 2d2h and still had 16% left. Pushmail on, wifi on (cellular data only when not at home), brigthness at 100%, taking video, pictues and some navigation, messaging and phonecalls. Oh yeah and a few minutes of flashlight use
I would say between slight and medium use.
If 2.3.4 worsened your batterylife, contact HTC or your vendor.
I now replaced the battery at 16% with the other Anker because I still need to do my 5 charge cycles on that one to calibrate it.
Here's an example of the graph. At the bottom you can see awake and screen on time. I pulled phone of charger last night, did some browsing, then ran for an hour with music playing in the background (you can see the small green bar on awake even when screen is off). After I surfed a little and left it off the charger when I went to bed. The phone is properly sleeping when the screen is off and almost 16 hours and still have 62%.
Before I uninstalled the apps, the awake time was solid green across the screen.
Anker battery worked wonders on my device. Before I would have to throw it on the charger after lunch as I like to go for a beer after work and the stock battery would never make it that far... Now when I get home from the bar I still have ~30% battery. Anker battery FTW!
flash a custom rom and u will go gaga over ur battery life. definitely works for me. on standby overnight drain 0-1%.
I found out that if you don't have strong signal at your location your battery drains pretty fast that's why I always connect my phone to WiFi at my apartment where my phone looses signal sometimes. now I lose just 1-2% of power during a night.
Sorry to hear about your battery troubles. A couple days ago I rooted and switched to "Android Revolution HD 3.0.4" and my battery life seems pretty solid. I wasn't having battery life issues prior to this though.
I'm currently in the process of calibrating the battery:
- drain it mostly
- turn off
- plug it in overnight while still off
- in the morning unplug, wait 15 minutes, replug for a few hours; do this ONLY ONCE or you may damage the battery
- power on, immediately go to recovery, advanced, reset battery stats
- start normally
- drain battery until it shuts down; a continuous stress test or stability test app is probably ideal
- once it shuts off, turn it on again to double-check that it's dead; it should only come on for a second or two
- while off, plug in and allow to fully charge; no fooling around with plugging/unplugging, just normal
- calibration complete!
I think you can follow a similar procedure (minus clearing battery stats) to refresh the battery calibration even without rooting/custom recovery. I've read the effectiveness is similar. The phone just needs to be retaught what "full" and "empty" mean, all in one charge cycle. If you calibrate it wrong you could have issues with it shutting off while still reading ~15% battery life.
Anyway, as I said, I'm in the process of doing this. Currently I'm in the "drain it" phase... with my screen at maximum brightness (remaining on), overclocked to 1.5 ghz, I've been running "StabilityTest" (from market) for one hour and fifteen minutes. It stresses both cores as well as the RAM. At this time, my battery is at around 30-40% or so, and it's getting really hot! The phone's temperature is reading as 54.8 degrees!
Also, yesterday I used the GPS for about 4 hours before it died, this was prior to any calibration attempt. I think this is within typical battery life considering that the screen stays on.
TL;DR: Maybe you just need to try a custom rom or recalibrate your battery. Miscalibrated battery can be caused by flashing/updating a rom, I imagine even when it's an OTA. Sense is crippling your phone anyway, you might as well give it a try IMHO.
get yourself an anker battery..I havent charged my phone since the day before and now i have 20% left! heavy usage
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Stock 2.3.6 with no changes to or updates in settings or installed software and I have been taking pretty good care of the battery in a 5 ½ month old Atrix 2 directly from Motorola and not previously used.
Several days ago battery drain when in standby when from approximately 0.5% per hour to 2.5 to 3% per hour. I did the following, although not necessarily in the order listed:
Bench tested battery at a battery shop – no problem found.
Verified settings and software. Cannot find anything that appears to be draining power, initiating communications, etc.
Pulled battery.
Hard data reset and tested drain rate with no additional software and had same problem as when normal software was installed.
Several deep cycles from 3% or less to full charge. In all cases mV appear in normal range of about 3542 mV at 3% to 4347 mV at 100%, again per Circle Battery Widget.
Broke down and called Motorola and although they tried to be more helpful than normal, the only suggestion that they could offer was to try another battery, which I do not currently possess and AT&T would not allow a short term lending even had they had one available.
99% of all charging is via stock wall charger, spot use of car adapter with appropriate specs when using GPS.
Typically recharge starting in range of 5-15% and charge to 100% as indicated by Circle Battery Widget.
Battery usage in standby shows about an even split between Cell Standby, Phone Idle and Bluetooth each about 32% of usage when in standby. Have always left Bluetooth on 24/7 except when charging and battery drain was only about 0.5% per hour. I even tested for several hours with bluetooth off and this did not affect the rapid drain.
Contacts are clean.
I even use Motorola USB cables both from my PC for data transfer and also with the wall charger.
No exposure to excessive heat/cold.
If anyone has any thoughts, I would greatly appreciate any help. Otherwise my next steps are to call Motorola back Sunday morning (U.S. time zones) and probably order an OEM battery from a reputable source allowing for U.S. holiday on Monday. Unsure how Motorola will treat this as warranty since 1) this phone is a replacement for Atrix 4G problems whose warranty would be expired, and, 2) batteries have weak warranty coverage anyway since so much of that is beyond their control.
Thanks
Same here recently.
My battery life has gotten a lot shorter (and cell reception worse). Most of my 'battery usage' is coming from cell stand-by.
Overcharged Battery
How long are you leaving the A2 on the charger? MTL you may have "overcharged" the battery, overloading the memory in the battery itself, therefore resulting in less usage time from a "fully charged" battery.
Typically, as a sales rep, I recommend my customers only charge their phone for the full 4-8 hours, when it is the FIRST time they charge their phone. typically after that, it takes only 2-2.5 hours to provide the phone with a full charge. Over charging will fry the memory and make the battery hold less charge and over a period of time eventually kill the battery, making you have to buy a new one.
P.S. If I am completely off base please let me know. Yes I am noob, but this info was actually part of my training courses so I'd love to tell them they're wrong. Hope I was helpful.
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How long are you leaving the A2 on the charger? MTL you may have "overcharged" the battery, overloading the memory in the battery itself, therefore resulting in less usage time from a "fully charged" battery.
Typically, as a sales rep, I recommend my customers only charge their phone for the full 4-8 hours, when it is the FIRST time they charge their phone. typically after that, it takes only 2-2.5 hours to provide the phone with a full charge. Over charging will fry the memory and make the battery hold less charge and over a period of time eventually kill the battery, making you have to buy a new one.
P.S. If I am completely off base please let me know. Yes I am noob, but this info was actually part of my training courses so I'd love to tell them they're wrong. Hope I was helpful.
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The phone electronics will not actually allow overcharging. you will have problems if you do overcharge it but you can't do that while it is in the phone.
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Thanks but in addition to any designed protection against overcharging I also pull the phone off the charger as soon as practicable after hitting 100% per Circle Battery with the exception being when using GPS which means that the phone will charge very slowly to 100% and remain connected to the charger until the next stop in my trip. The phone charges more slowly on the car adapter because the screen is constantly on along with running GPS and music software and streaming music via bluetooth.
I also try to make sure that I always disconnect the charger before starting or turning off the vehicle's engine. It may not be necessary anymore but that is an old habit.
Happening to me recently, before the battery lasted very long, but the past few days I arrive at night with 20% left. I tried doing a factory reset but it still the same. Also, the "cell standby" is the biggest consumer? I don't know what does that mean...
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Happening to me recently, before the battery lasted very long, but the past few days I arrive at night with 20% left. I tried doing a factory reset but it still the same. Also, the "cell standby" is the biggest consumer? I don't know what does that mean...
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As far as I know 'cell standby' is basically your phone searching for a signal.
Remove any app that u suspect. If u have installed battery indicator pro, that's the culprit. Same happened to my phone when i had battery indicator pro. Install juice defender ultimate. Works a bit. Clear off d ram and reboot
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For what little it may be worth replacing the battery showed the same problem and motorola now admits that this might be a motherboard issue and wants me to send the device to them for repair. They had their level 3 contract tech support review what I had done for troubleshooting and they agreed that the above steps plus replacing the battery had exhausted all possible options that can be taken outside a repair depot.
Those with similar problems may want to do the same and finally call motorola.
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For what little it may be worth replacing the battery showed the same problem and motorola now admits that this might be a motherboard issue and wants me to send the device to them for repair. They had their level 3 contract tech support review what I had done for troubleshooting and they agreed that the above steps plus replacing the battery had exhausted all possible options that can be taken outside a repair depot.
Those with similar problems may want to do the same and finally call motorola.
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Wonderful, I am on my 3rd Atrix 2. Returned two previous because of the sd card reader/compatibility problems. The third one I received hasn't had the problem but now I can't go more than 8 hours without the battery going dead.
Cell standby is normally over 33% and Phone idle is normally at 30% or higher.
This happens whether I leave wifi on all day or turn it off.
Stock 2.3.6
I work from home and I have 5 bar signal strength from my house so there is no reason for my phone to constantly be searching for network signal.
Still happening to me. Today I was talking with an AT&T representative via online chat, and they only tell you to disable background data, and set it to super saver mode. They didn't want to listen that the phone before lasted until midnight with the battery still green and that now it goes red. The guy said that the phone is supposed to last 8.5 hours, since that is the talk time. I tried to explain that the talk time didn't work like that, but no good.
Finally, I went to an AT&T store and inquired about the issue. Since I'm within the 1 year warranty they are going to send me a new battery. If that doesn't fix the problem they said they would change my phone.
So I had the S6 last year and ended up returning it due to the poor battery performance. I ended up back on an iPhone. When the news of a larger battery and better chip performance come out for the S7 I was ready to jump back on the ANdroid bandwagon.
So fast forward. I just unplugged my phone at 100%. It's been a half hour and I'm already at 95%. I have to consistently keep the power save mode on to conserve battery. It's getting somewhat annoying because it screws up updates and notifications as well as some app don't work well.
I've tried conserving battery by shutting off certain features, keeping display brightness down etc while having power save mode off. It just seems that Android System is chewing through the battery. I don't know what the hell is doing it either.
I don't want to cripple the phone by keeping it on power save mode all the time. Does anyone have any recommendations that will help me or I might have to return this phone and ALL the free stuff I got with it.
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Half hour of use at 95%? Cus that's not bad at all. I'm consistently getting 5-7 hours of SoT.
I think OP meant half hour of standby because im experiencing the same type of battery drain. But even with this drain im getting about 10-12 hrs of moderate use with 4.5 hrs SoT
Turn AOD off. Let the battery run down... Turn off fast charge. Fully charged the phone. Don't disable anything else. Go through a couple cycles like this. You'll see a difference. Then use package Disabler pro and disable what you don't use. You'll be happy...
So for the hell of it I turned off location in the drop down menu so see how it affects battery life. I have been off the charger for about 2.5 hours now. I have used the phone here and there throughout that time. When it came off the charger it was at 98% and it's at 91% now.
That's 7 percent with use in 2.5 hours whereas before it lost 5% in a half hour on standby with no use.
What the hell is pinging location over and over? If you hold down the location drop down menu option the phone displays the apps that use location. All of them say low battery use.
Is there a way to set these up to only use location when the app is being used?
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What the hell is pinging location over and over?
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Probably this
https://www.google.com/maps/timeline
whelmar said:
Turn AOD off. Let the battery run down... Turn off fast charge. Fully charged the phone. Don't disable anything else. Go through a couple cycles like this. You'll see a difference. Then use package Disabler pro and disable what you don't use. You'll be happy...
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Is fast charge bad for the battery or something? I've gone through about 3 cycles with fast charge on and battery still isn't great. Hoping it will improve after about 3-4 more cycles
All I know is that it made a huge difference for me. I think that it's more of a battery calibration thing. It really doesn't take that much longer to charge the phone with fast charge off...