Hello,
I have recently downloaded GummyCharged GBE 2.1 and the theme ICS onto my Droid Charge. The problem is, I have noticed that I cannot use my 4G network, even after I continually tap on it.
I have come up with some probable answers that I still need help with, but I think I downloaded ED1 and not EE4?
Is that correct?
I can use my Wi-Fi no problem, just the 4G network I can't use. So if I want to use my 4G again, I have to root my phone again?
VexedVortex said:
Hello,
I have recently downloaded GummyCharged GBE 2.1 and the theme ICS onto my Droid Charge. The problem is, I have noticed that I cannot use my 4G network, even after I continually tap on it.
I have come up with some probable answers that I still need help with, but I think I downloaded ED1 and not EE4?
Is that correct?
I can use my Wi-Fi no problem, just the 4G network I can't use. So if I want to use my 4G again, I have to root my phone again?
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You have a 4g device shouldn't matter ED1,ED2,EE4. You getting no 3g/4g at all?
When you go to setting/wireless networks/mobile networks is packet data checked?
Yes, packet data is checked and I cannot see the symbol for 4G on the status bar. I have no idea why it's doing this.
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Yes, packet data is checked and I cannot see the symbol for 4G on the status bar. I have no idea why it's doing this.
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If you are using wifi your 3g/4g wont show up. Make sure it is unchecked. Also you can use wifi but if in airplane mode your 3g/4g wont show up. I know most of this is simple but trying anything.
Hi,
Airplane mode was never checked. I also don't leave Wi-Fi on when trying to use 4G, so I guess that's not the problem.
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Hi,
Airplane mode was never checked. I also don't leave Wi-Fi on when trying to use 4G, so I guess that's not the problem.
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Ok I give up here too. I would install a different Rom.
Data outage that happened to me when data was out same Tom too
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Well I'm probably sure that I still have more data left, but is that what happens if you run out of data?
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Well I'm probably sure that I still have more data left, but is that what happens if you run out of data?
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No he is saying Verizon network may be down in the area. Over the past well just say the past they have had outages with no coverage. Could call Verizon and see if they tell you the truth or reflash.
Agreed Athens I should be more clear in the future lmao
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My area has 4G coverage, I think I need to reflash.
Try flashing again doesn't work then my guess would be similar is fried or data is really down happened to me too cs said it was fine went to a physical store and all if there phone were down so yeah best of luck to ya
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Don't remember the whole thread but have you tried a different sim card? Doesnt that control 3g/4g and if the card is fried you won't get signal? Just an idea that might be easier than flashing something else.
True but sometimes the store reps know better than call center about data outages
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True but sometimes the store reps know better than call center about data outages
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Damn, I guess I'll reflash. Do you think it's because of the GummyCharged GBE ROM? Because I was in a rush flashing it but I remember I didn't root my phone first and I didn't flash Voodoo. Before I reflash, no one knows how to fix this problem?
when i flashed gbe 2.1 i flashed the odin version first like 1.7 or something then voddoo was enabled then i booted into recovery flashed 2.0 voodoo already enabled then i flashed 2.1 ontop of it because it is a addon package not a full rom and i was good to go on i side note just back up flash something like humble just to see if your data works if it doesn't work on humble then you know verizon doesn't know **** and data is down or your sim is fried but i would think you wouln't be able to make phone calls if that was the case or make sure you have the most recent radio sometimes that might work sorry if i couldn't help more let me know if you need more help or questions... good luck man
I fixed the issue,
I just went into recovery mode and wiped my data, cache and Davlik cache. Then I installed ICS again from my SD card and the 4G started to work once again.
Sweet
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OK Guys and Gals, Here is what is going on with the radio issue. No Matter WHAT radio combos you may be using. As some of you may know by my earlier posts I live in a huge 4G network and never get anything, but 4G and (3G only for a min on boot) This is why I didn't have ANY issue's until I got curious and wanted to try something. On our tbolts, if you try to make a call while in 3G the 3G will drop out until the call is over. I went back to froyo, got pissed and went strait back to GB (doesn't matter what Rom as all the dev have clearly stated) when I did go back to GB things were tight as usual. worked like a charm. I used it as I normally would and everything was fine. upon a self induced restart, before my phone had a chance to obtain 4G (still in 3G) I decided to make a test call to see if the 3G would drop. It didn't. Quickly after I ended the call the phone booted in to bootloader. Thank God I had removed the GB RUU because I don't have a card reader to remove the RUU. I forgot to mention I do have the latest Rom Mgr and was able to get into recovery and simply reboot. After that reboot I would get to my home screen, but this time the 3G only would come up and then reboot. Time after time of rebooting I tried other things such as toggle radio to just grab 4G, then the phone rebooted again! upon the next full boot I quickly moved the original froyo radio strait to the sd card. And yet another reboot. This time I got a Rom Mgr error and noticed that Rom mgr was no longer flashed!!! I flashed it real quick because I knew another reboot was on its way. Rom mgr flashed and I told it to boot in to recovery. Thank **** I flashed Rom manager because if not I would be in continuous boots like the unfortunate others. Once in recovery I Realized that I had told my phone to go in to recovery via Rom mgr. and if I did a restore, the phone would have booted back up with my froyo rom but with the GB radio! so I told CWR to just reboot so I could tell the phone to go into recovery via the pwr restart option (thus not restarting after I flashed my froyo recovery) Once recovery of my froyo rom was complete I used ADB to reboot bootloader and SUCCESS! Bottom line you can not make a call while on 3G with any of the current GB radios, you gotta be quick, Make sure ROM mgr is actually flashed!!!! and hopefully can dump the froyo radio on to your SD card before an inevitable reboot happens! and have some ADB knowledge. I'm certain this is whats going on! People make a call while in 3G and its all down hill from there. So dont bother with telling radio settings to stick with one band. Once this happens, there is no turning back. Any questions PM me. I'm glad I tried this out before Vaca tomorrow with a FUBAR Tbolt
Hope this helps developers somehow. Good luck!
I make calls all day on 3g
Only 3g here in new Mexico and no.issues here. Maybe its more to do with making a call while the phone is trying to.connect to the 4g.
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Only 3g here in new Mexico and no.issues here. Maybe its more to do with making a call while the phone is trying to.connect to the 4g.
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Good point, but sometimes you never know when that may happen. Ie. Your driving in a 3g area while on a call, hang up and it doesn't get the 4g in the new area ur at and what I mentioned is most likely going to happen. *shrugs*
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I make calls all day on 3g
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Maybe, but that one time when u make a 3g call n hang up, if your in a 4g area then, this could happen n Tom manager may drop its cwr flash n **** ya up. Just a heads up. Make a 3g call, but if ur going in a 4g area make damn sure u check rom Mgr to see if cwr is still flashed.
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In Hawaii I also do not have 4G unfortunately and have been using 3G with a GB ROM.
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This guy was just web browsing.
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Just happened... 10 minutes ago. I am looking for another Dump truck so I pulled up Craigslist, hit the search box and as I was typing it just started to lag like a MFKR... Then, Reboot. It hit the White HTC screen and just kept rebooting. I pulled the battery and booting into hboot, 3 seconds later... Reboot.
My not be relevant but it happened to be in a 3G area this morning on a job.
There's a Verizon store on my way home. Ill be setting another one up tonight.
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In Hawaii I also do not have 4G unfortunately and have been using 3G with a GB ROM.
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There's your answer. Hope 4G DOESN'T POP UP SOON OR IT MAY BE AN AWESOME THING GONE WRONG!
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Only 3g here in new Mexico and no.issues here. Maybe its more to do with making a call while the phone is trying to.connect to the 4g.
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Plus your only in 3g. The phone will only grab the dominant signal. So ur good till 4g comes in to ur area. Hope there's a better radio to fix this by then!
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When you say radio combos are you referring to froyo radios also? Cause gb only has one radio.
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So... if you have 4G disabled on the GB ROMs you shouldn't encounter the endless bootloop..?
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When you say radio combos are you referring to froyo radios also? Cause gb only has one radio.
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The GB radios out there are combos. They Support cdma,evdo and lte.
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So... if you have 4G disabled on the GB ROMs you shouldn't encounter the endless bootloop..?
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Possibly, but hope u maintain 3G because if you happen to go to 1x (CDMA) It may be the start of awfulness! Maybe just force evdo? Good luck
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Well I'm not running a gb ROM right now but I was, and when I was, I am in and out of 4g/3g areas all day long, it didn't happen to my phone.
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Dope - make sure you post in the http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1098363 thread, telling us what your EMMC identifies itself as.
So far, nobody who has bricked their device has stepped forward and given us the magic numbers, so we cannot determine whether specific hardware plays a role in bricking.
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Well I'm not running a gb ROM right now but I was, and when I was, I am in and out of 4g/3g areas all day long, it didn't happen to my phone.
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Have to be running a gb rom with a gb radio. Make a call while in a 3g/4g area. only make a call when in evdo n see what happens after u hang up. Jk
Unless you got another tbolt laying around if u aren't as fortunate as I was with this BS
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Dope - make sure you post in the http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1098363 thread, telling us what your EMMC identifies itself as.
So far, nobody who has bricked their device has stepped forward and given us the magic numbers, so we cannot determine whether specific hardware plays a role in bricking.
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Leaving for Florida in a few hours n everything is packed up. Ill report once I'm there if not too busy. Thanks for the link!
I ran a GB rom and radio for over a week set to only 3G and I am in a STRONG 4G area. Made many calls and had no issue.
*edit: Correct me if I'm wrong but your data (3G) drops when in a call, when set to 3G only, due to the fact that you can't have simultaneous data and voice. That is what 4G (LTE) is providing. I open and close the browser a couple of times or toggle airplane mode and it comes back.
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I ran a GB rom and radio for over a week set to only 3G and I am in a STRONG 4G area. Made many calls and had no issue.
*edit: Correct me if I'm wrong but your data (3G) drops when in a call, when set to 3G only, due to the fact that you can't have simultaneous data and voice. That is what 4G (LTE) is providing. I open and close the browser a couple of times or toggle airplane mode and it comes back.
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Not my understanding...
I've put mine in 3G only and was still able to use voice and data.
Voice uses 1x...
Not until Voice over LTE will that be accurate...LTE is data only at this point.
Turn off data and you can still make a call, send and receive SMS/MMS.
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Not my understanding...
I've put mine in 3G only and was still able to use voice and data.
Voice uses 1x...
Not until Voice over LTE will that be accurate...LTE is data only at this point.
Turn off data and you can still make a call, send and receive SMS/MMS.
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I mean simultaneously use voice and data. You can't currently do that. That is what LTE is going to provide.
dopediculous...Have you done this?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1098363
I have a problem where my Charge thinks I am always roaming. One other person in posted in this forum with this problem but had no responses and he is a one post wonder. Has anyone else seen this problem. I have sent this device to Samsung twice and it has not been fixed. They will not replace it. Verizon did some stuff overt the phone that was of no help. This does not happen if I put my sim in a Thunderbolt and it does happen if I put another Sim into this device. It has to be the device. Any ideas?
i think that I ran into this problem just the other day have you figured out how to fix it.
I thought that the sim was supposed to automatically update roaming.
I have tried flashing Roms over top using odin cwm and nothing has helped, i don't know what else to do.
What are you running on it (roms, radios, etc) and what have YOU done to try fixing it?
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What are you running on it (roms, radios, etc) and what have YOU done to try fixing it?
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I was on Gummy charge fe 1.9.1 and a few days ago it put me into roaming mode. all the areas where i would have perfect 4g or 3g reception say i am roaming. I tried reflashing the gummy rom in odin and in cwm then i tried getting the new leak to see if the newest modems would fix it. Niether of those worked so i tried flashing the EE4 stock rom and that didn't work either. I didn't want to keep flashing after that because i didn't want to end up ruining my phone any mor. I flashed each of them a few times to make sure it wasn't just an error.
I wiped all data did factory restore wiped cache dalvik and even battery(i know that didn't really do anything useful but thought i would try it).
I didn't know what else to do so i figured i would leave it on stock unrooted and see if anyone could help me here before i called up verizon.
I also tried taking the battery out and sim for about half an hour to see if that would do anything but it didn't help either.
Is "data network mode" on your power menu activated? May seem like a stupid question....Also, can you make calls?
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Is "data network mode" on your power menu activated? May seem like a stupid question....Also, can you make calls?
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Yes i can make and recieve calls also i can send and recieve text messages. I did find out that when i go into a 4g area that it will connect so i was wrong about that part. Earlier i just assumed the 4g would act the same I just wasn't in a 4g area for a couple days because I had off of work. But as soon as I leave the 4g area it says that I am roaming.
This info may help solve the problem and sorry about saying the 4g didn't work. you know what they say when you assume you just make an ass out of u and me.
I am thinking that it is just the 3g antenna going bad or something because I saw that was happening to some people but I am not sure if it is the same predicament.
Thank you for the help so far though.
Oh yeah and also the mobile network is on If that was the problem I would probably be really upset with myself that i didn't notice. Although I have seen it happen when i went to verizon to get a new sim card after something happened to mine I ended up waiting there for half an hour for them to get my phone working only to find out the reason they couldn't get the new sim working right was because they had the mobile data turned off.
Multiple Roms, stock and custom, gingerbread and froyo. kernels radios, you name it. No problem with voice. Shows data roaming all the time and will not get data unless I enable data roaming in the settings. If I pull my sim out and put it in my Thunderbolt there are no problems. I also tried a different sim and the problem was still there. I have already sent it to Samsung for this as well as talked to Verizon.
Hello im running Gummy Charged 1.8 GBE and today my phone didnt connect to 4g.
I have no data, and i tried resetting the phone, deleted all data in recovery, still no 4g.
Is this a problem with my phone or the network or what?
Didnt drop it or anything, no clue what is going on.
Thx.
Just asking the obvious, but when you go into settings> wireless and networks make sure it is set to lte automatic, and wifi is off. Also check to make sure you didn't accidentally disable mobile data in the pull down.
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Hello im running Gummy Charged 1.8 GBE and today my phone didnt connect to 4g.
I have no data, and i tried resetting the phone, deleted all data in recovery, still no 4g.
Is this a problem with my phone or the network or what?
Didnt drop it or anything, no clue what is going on.
Thx.
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do you get 3G? do calls and texts go through? if all the usual stuff fails, you may have a fried 4G sim... you should be able to get another one from VZ
I had no 4G earlier, but did a few minutes ago when I looked, so it appears to have been network for me. I personally always assume it's network, because I haven't seen a case yet where it isn't.
So I recently bought the girlfriend a Samsung Galaxy S 4g. Definitely a bit different than the Evo in terms of the overall process. It didn't help that I started out in the Vibrant forums somehow...
Anyway. As it stands right now I have her phone all rooted and it has CWM and I'm using the Valhalla ROM. The issue is that she doesn't have data.... and when I go into wireless networks and check out the mobile networks and such, I can never actually see T-Mobile. If I search I can see AT&T, which I connect to and I start roaming. If I do this I still don't actually have internet. I can't use the market, or the web browser or facebook or anything that requires data. The browser will sometimes redirect me to some web2go website, otherwise it just times out or says it can't connect to the server.
So does anybody know what's going on? Please let me know if you need any more details.
I've never had trouble like this between my Evo, or my Epic 4g Touch or any friends phones. I've also tried going back to 100% stock unrooted GB and I still have the exact same problem. The ROM doesn't seem to matter, neither does being rooted.
Since you are running Valhalla bring down the notification bar and make sure you have the data toggle on.
Yep, it's definitely toggled to on. I even cycle airplane mode and make sure it's on afterwards.
Only other thing I would suggest is a factory reset. The phone should be picking up the T-mobile network without any problems. But if rooted or not and on stock vs custom rom the issue remains you may just have to set it back to stock and send it in for replacement.
And I know this is a silly question but make sure you call T-mobile and verify that this line has data plan. It has happened in the past when I added a line that it wasn't provisioned correctly and out of the blue the data stopped working. The service was automatically removed due to a reps mistake.
Check your APN settings. Should be T-Mobile's, if not then that's what causing the issue. Just look up for those on google.
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My APN settings are correct. I've now tried several other APN settings though, and this hasn't helped.
I know this phone is on a data plan. It's on the $50.00 a month prepaid. It did work when we got it, and after it was rooted. I just noticed recently that it stopped working, and I'm not sure at what point it happened, and if it has anything to do with what I've done.
I called tmobile and they said they couldn't see any network related issues going on. Just my phone not connecting, so it was made a ticket for the engineers I guess haha. They are supposed to work on it, and they usually will either fix it and never contact you, or call you if they need you to do something.
Bump.
I've been in really good service areas with full bars T-Mobile and I still don't have internet. So I really don't know what's up. The "T-Mobile engineers" haven't called me back or fixed anything yet.
I'm about to bring myself back to stock and bring it in to a store.
Bring it back to stock & maybe put it in recovery mode & wipe caches & do factory reset again. See if that helps before returning it.
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You might try reflashing the ROM or maybe just flash a different modem. I had issues like that once when i was on black ice. If you had data before, there probably isn't anything wrong with your phone.
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Having the same Data problem
I had an unlocked ATT BB Curve on T-Mobile and the data was working (although very slow...)
I decided to try out a "Vibrant" hoping to be able to install ICS via Cyanablahblah.
Searching on Ebay I bought one only it turned out to be the 4G (it didn't realize there was a difference.)
Since then I can't get DATA on the 4G except in WiFi.
On the network it goes to the page: u.web2go.com and says my data plan does not work on this device.
Has anybody had any success with this problem ?
Could it be a 4G issue ? Before DATA came from Edge.
Have you checked what your APN settings should be with the magics of Google?
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Have you checked what your APN settings should be with the magics of Google?
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I have, I've tried 3 different versions with no joy.
Update:
As per T-Mobile Tech,
Apparently Blackberry Data service does not work on non BB phones.
Needs Add on Data plan
bogiewan said:
I have, I've tried 3 different versions with no joy.
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tmob probably caught on that you're using a "4G" phone and will try to force you to upgrade your plan.
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tmob probably caught on that you're using a "4G" phone and will try to force you to upgrade your plan.
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Is there any way to fool it with a 3G modem flash or something ?
I think I screwed up when I bought the phone not realizing there were 2 variants of the "Vibrant."
I wonder if I would have this problem with the earlier (non "V") 3g phone.
Probably. If it were just the 3G/4G causing the problem, you can force the SGS4G to only use 2G networks in the data settings... but if it's anything like the old Verizon bits with tethering and other data, they check for specific data strings that are harder to fake... I mean, set.
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Is there any way to fool it with a 3G modem flash or something ?
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They use your IMEI to tell what phone it is.
http://www.gsma.com/technicalprojects/fraud-security/imei-database
the OP was in 2011, so I'm pretty sure he already got it taken care of
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the OP was in 2011, so I'm pretty sure he already got it taken care of
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... so I should have started a new thread instead of searching ?
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... so I should have started a new thread instead of searching ?
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No you shouldn't have. :good:
Hey guys I woke up this morning and my phone was working on wifi but when I left for school I tried turning on 3g but no 3g or any signal.I got home and my wifi is working fine and I have normal signal bars so the only thing affected is data.I am running tweakstock 1.1
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Restart? Airplane mode toggle? Reflash modem?
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Restart? Airplane mode toggle? Reflash modem?
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Tried the first two might try modem flash
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What modem should I flash
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It'd doesn't really matter since modems are independent of ROMs and kernels.
The EP4D modems can be found here. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1380430
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It'd doesn't really matter since modems are independent of ROMs and kernels.
The EP4D modems can be found here. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1380430
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Okay thanks
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Flashed the modem no help
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I'd say try starting from scratch and go back to stock. If you can't get it on stock, don't root it and take it to a Verizon store. Tell them you want a new sim. If a new sim doesn't fix it then it's a hardware issue and you get to bug Verizon until they give you a new Charge.
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I'd say try starting from scratch and go back to stock. If you can't get it on stock, don't root it and take it to a Verizon store. Tell them you want a new sim. If a new sim doesn't fix it then it's a hardware issue and you get to bug Verizon until they give you a new Charge.
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Okay should I call Verizon to send a new Sim
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You can do that, but it'd be quicker to go to a store and just pick one up. They're free regardless, so it's up to you.
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You can do that, but it'd be quicker to go to a store and just pick one up. They're free regardless, so it's up to you.
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Okay how do they transfer my info on my Sim to the new Sim
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Okay how do they transfer my info on my Sim to the new Sim
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Unfortunately, I don't believe they do. If it is the sim though, you can possibly test it by putting someone else's sim (friend or family) in your phone and see if you still can't get data.
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Okay how do they transfer my info on my Sim to the new Sim
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no i believe they tell you to do that through backup assistant, i would just export all your contacts to your sd.
and tell me how this goes, because i have had that same issue twice but i never changed the sim,
here is the thread. in the end i did a complete reflash and even then it took a few hours before i saw data so i am unsure if the flash had anything to do with it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=21754406#post21754406
When you boot and its trying to connect do you see a 3g 4g at the top of the screen? If so I dont think the sim is the problem. Ive had it happen a couple of times where it wouldnt do anything.
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When you boot and its trying to connect do you see a 3g 4g at the top of the screen? If so I dont think the sim is the problem. Ive had it happen a couple of times where it wouldnt do anything.
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no data at all when booting
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Hey guys there might have been a tower down by me yesterday since my 3g is working fine right now
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i know this is a mondo bump but my gf is out of the state with her charge and its having sim issues I tried walking her over the phone on how to try to get it back (dont feel comfortable flashing new modem) but i had her wipe cache and dalvic and do the airplane toggle and also remount sim but no fixes?