Official update to ICS for Galaxy R - Samsung Galaxy R i9103

Samsung has told that all the phones Samsung Galaxy will be updated to 2.3.6 soon.
Why isn't there Galaxy Royal in this table released yesterday from Samsung?
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EDIT: Samsung Italy has confirmed the ICS update for Galaxy R.
This is what Samsung Italy has told:
"Samsung ha finalmente confermato il rilascio di Android 4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich per la sua gamma di smartphone Galaxy. Vi avevamo già anticipato che la gamma Galaxy sarebbe stata aggiornata e adesso arriva una nuova conferma ufficiale da parte del produttore. Samsung Galaxy Note e Galaxy S IIsaranno i primi a ricevere la nuova distribuzione Android 4.0 nel primo trimestre del 2012. Per i modelli Galaxy S II LTE, Galaxy R, Galaxy Tab 10.1, Galaxy Tab 8.9, Galaxy Tab 7.7 e Galaxy Tab 7.0 Plus si dovrà invece attendere per sapere le date di aggiornamento sebbene Ice Cream Sandwich sia confermato!"
Google translate:
"Samsung has finally confirmed the release of Android 4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich for its Galaxy range of smartphones. We had anticipated that the range would be updated Galaxy and now comes a new official confirmation from the manufacturer. Samsung Galaxy and Galaxy S II Notes will be the first to receive the new Android 4.0 distribution in the first quarter of 2012. For the Galaxy S II LTE models, R-Galaxy, Galaxy Tab 10.1, Tab Galaxy 8.9, Galaxy Galaxy Tab 7.7 and Tab 7.0 Plus will instead wait to see the dates though update Ice Cream Sandwich is confirmed!"

Claus72 said:
Samsung has told that all the phones Samsung Galaxy will be updated to 2.3.6 soon.
Why isn't there Galaxy Royal in this table released yesterday from Samsung?
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Galaxy royal is an unwanted kid for Samsung???

And no forum?
I've been searching through XDA to find the reason why i9103 is not getting its own forum, but found nothing. Could someone please explain why? I have both i9000 and i9103 and I have enjoyed and still enjoy homebrew on the former, while the latter, having root, some kernels, some roms, and being the most requested to create a new forum, hasn't still received its own category. Why? Thanks

iKevinShah said:
The galaxy R is one the latest phone which comes with 2.3.5 if i am not wrong (it has GB surely)
maybe they would be directly skipping it to ICS ?
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It comes with 2.3.4.
I hope you are right but I'm not so sure.

jason11 said:
Galaxy royal is an unwanted kid for Samsung???
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It looks like that. I asked samsung.se why there wasn't SGR on their website and if they had some info about ics update and I received just two marketing-slogans with no answers. It's f...n ridiculous. Samsung acts like they try to hide the fact that they've ever released this device. No update, not even picture+product features on many official websites, nothing. The most of technical information can be found on private blogs which by the way most often discouraged potential buyers from purchasing this handset ("we recommend to add some amount of money and buy sgs2 since the price difference is not that big"). The only thing you can easily find now is the (mostly asian) firmware. Big thanks to sampro.pl - definitely the best samsung fanpage on web and sammobile.com - wannabe the best (no irony here, second place in my own ranking), though still no info about i9103 at all, but they at least try to keep website updated and do something towards development.
josjator said:
I've been searching through XDA to find the reason why i9103 is not getting its own forum, but found nothing. Could someone please explain why? I have both i9000 and i9103 and I have enjoyed and still enjoy homebrew on the former, while the latter, having root, some kernels, some roms, and being the most requested to create a new forum, hasn't still received its own category. Why? Thanks
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As far as I can remember we just have: root, cwm and one custom kernel The roms we can enjoy here are only the stock ones It's not a huge achievement unfortunately. We just have one ardatdat that makes a real progress here. Otherwise we're more or less devoted but still bunch of ordinary, average users. Our contribution is not the biggest. It doesn't really matter we're probably over 400 people now. The popularity of SGR among devs and rom brewers is none at the moment and that's the most important for real progress. At this point I can understand why we cannot get own section here.
On the other hand the biggest "sin" of i9103 seems to be: not being released in USA. There are plenty crappy, obsolete devices that have been granted home here, and it doesn't matter that they no longer fulfill tech. requirements for further development. Moreover SGS2 has at least few different sections just because of cosmetic differences within one model (depending on carrier). That makes explanations that device should have some special, unique features, ridiculous.

Claus72 said:
Samsung has told that all the phones Samsung Galaxy will be updated to 2.3.6 soon.
Why isn't there Galaxy Royal in this table released yesterday from Samsung?
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It shows the timeline for the release of updates for THE ITALIAN VERSION of Samsung products.
There is a Samsung 2.3.6 update in English for the Galaxy R and you can download it here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1372457
So you can NOT say that Samsung did not supply any 2.3.6 ROM for the Galaxy R.
There probably is a low priority for the Italian version because there are no Italian network operators selling the Galaxy R. Is there one?
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jason11 said:
Galaxy royal is an unwanted kid for Samsung???
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Also the Flagship i9100 Galaxy S II has only 2.3.6!
We just are not Flagship. We are a cheaper copy of the S II.
But we did get 2.3.6!
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josjator said:
I've been searching through XDA to find the reason why i9103 is not getting its own forum, but found nothing. Could someone please explain why? I have both i9000 and i9103 and I have enjoyed and still enjoy homebrew on the former, while the latter, having root, some kernels, some roms, and being the most requested to create a new forum, hasn't still received its own category. Why? Thanks
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Ask the admin why. Did you?
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Claus72 said:
It comes with 2.3.4.
I hope you are right but I'm not so sure.
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Again you are writing something about the ITALIAN VERSION.
The Austrian and German versions get sold with 2.3.5 and the Taiwan, Hong Kong, China Korea versions are now sold with 2.3.6 or can get 2.3.6 via Kies update.
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m.kochan10 said:
It looks like that. I asked samsung.se why there wasn't SGR on their website and if they had some info about ics update and I received just two marketing-slogans with no answers. It's f...n ridiculous. Samsung acts like they try to hide the fact that they've ever released this device.
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There are 4500 pages that mention the i9103 Galaxy R on samsung.com:
http://www.google.com/search?q=i9103+site:samsung.com
The Swedish Galaxy R support site is here:
http://www.samsung.com/se/support/detail/supportPrdDetail.do?prd_mdl_cd=GT-I9103MAAHTS
Why did I find it in 1 Minute, man?

I know, but the thing is that the same poor information (swedish website) has been there for 3 months. Nothing has changed...which is a joke if we talk about successful promotion. Try to find it among other handsets, like a regular random surfer.
I'm aware of google search engine, but it's just a word game if we consider PR. You cannot call it proper marketing like it was in case of even Galaxy Ace (not to mention SGS2). I meant official websites and full advertisement which includes: full display among all other devices: (pictures + specifications + marketing text) and not only manual + Kies hidden deeply inside the website. It's not serious promotion of a powerful device.
Yes 4500 pages where word "i9103" appears - Agree, but on how many national websites is Samsung Galaxy R really promoted? I checked last month and it was just: Hongkong, Taiwan, China, Russia and Spain.

m.kochan10 said:
Agree, but on how many national websites is Samsung Galaxy R really promoted? I checked last month and it was just: Hongkong, Taiwan, China, Russia and Spain.
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You did not check good enough. I know many more national samsung sites with Galaxy R promotion.
Re-check with google and tell us how many national sites.

For legion1911, I have more than 700 post in this forum and I came from HTC Diamond, Diamond 2, Tytn, Tytn 2 and HD2.
I like very much Galaxy Royal and I bought it for the low price (I payed it 300 euro for a new one) but you can't tell that this phone is supported from Samsung or from this forum. I can tell you the real support is something else.
Sorry for my bad English.

I bought nothing Galaxy R is very sorry ...

Ok, since the quality of google results is not always trustworthy and raw numbers/expressions often highly misleading I've checked most of world's websites through samsung.org, site by site.
I haven't checked Africa and South America due to the lack of time. May my latin, and african friends forgive me.
These are the countries (23) where you can find galaxy R among other devices:
Europe: Austria, Germany, Norway, Spain, Croatia, Kazakhstan (it's european according to samsung), Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Russia, Ukraine
Middle East: Bahrain, Kuwait, Saudi Arabien, UAE, Yemen
Asia and Pacific: China, Hongkong, Singapore, Thailand, Taiwan, India
North America: None, but here I can understand (no release)
Conclusion: only 4 developed (West european countries with over-average income per capita have Samsung Galaxy R officially on their websites). We can then differentiate: asian tigers like Singapore and Taiwan. I don't mean to discriminate anybody, and I appreciate contribution of developers from other parts of the world equally, but statistically most of them come from western countries.
Other countries (19) belong to either developing or less developed with lower income per capita.
Well at the beginning I thought it was just neglectful of Samsung that they didn't push their regional offices to update their websites. Right now I can see it was a planed marketing strategy. But I still think it's unacceptable that over 3 months after release the phone cannot be found on major official sites.
My friends please, let's everybody consider himself/herself if it's the right promotion and support that guarantees or rather makes further development easier. I'm personally not convinced if it is the best way.
We have bad luck, but we have at least solid devices with not buggy stock and I'm sure that sooner or later we're gonna get what we're waiting for.

Claus72 said:
For legion1911, I have more than 700 post in this forum and I came from HTC Diamond, Diamond 2, Tytn, Tytn 2 and HD2.
I like very much Galaxy Royal and I bought it for the low price (I payed it 300 euro for a new one) but you can't tell that this phone is supported from Samsung or from this forum. I can tell you the real support is something else.
Sorry for my bad English.
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You were talking about no 2.3.6 for the R from Samsung. And I wrote there is one.
Yes I wish they would support us more but we are not flagship. We are a minor side release in the tradition of the Samsung "3" devices i9103, i9003.
The number with a 3 and the end and that they did not give us the S in the name says it all.
About the forum, I think the administrators of this forum are american a**holes that do not want to give us a forum for this device because it is not sold in the US.
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m.kochan10 said:
Ok, since the quality of google results is not always trustworthy and raw numbers/expressions often highly misleading I've checked most of world's websites through samsung.org, site by site.
I haven't checked Africa and South America due to the lack of time. May my latin, and african friends forgive me.
These are the countries (23) where you can find galaxy R among other devices:
Europe: Austria, Germany, Norway, Spain, Croatia, Kazakhstan (it's european according to samsung), Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Russia, Ukraine
Middle East: Bahrain, Kuwait, Saudi Arabien, UAE, Yemen
Asia and Pacific: China, Hongkong, Singapore, Thailand, Taiwan, India
North America: None, but here I can understand (no release)
Conclusion: only 4 developed (West european countries with over-average income per capita have Samsung Galaxy R officially on their websites). We can then differentiate: asian tigers like Singapore and Taiwan. I don't mean to discriminate anybody, and I appreciate contribution of developers from other parts of the world equally, but statistically most of them come from western countries.
Other countries (19) belong to either developing or less developed with lower income per capita.
Well at the beginning I thought it was just neglectful of Samsung that they didn't push their regional offices to update their websites. Right now I can see it was a planed marketing strategy. But I still think it's unacceptable that over 3 months after release the phone cannot be found on major official sites.
My friends please, let's everybody consider himself/herself if it's the right promotion and support that guarantees or rather makes further development easier. I'm personally not convinced if it is the best way.
We have bad luck, but we have at least solid devices with not buggy stock and I'm sure that sooner or later we're gonna get what we're waiting for.
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Good job. You are aware that with CHINA, INDIA, RUSSIA, GERMANY, SPAIN, you are already covering half the population of the planet?
Yes the R is not a global release, we are a minor regional release.
But still the Royal is a damn good device!

Please write a message of support for the Royal here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=20442679

legion1911 said:
Good job. You are aware that with CHINA, INDIA, RUSSIA, GERMANY, SPAIN, you are already covering half the population of the planet?
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Thnx and yes I am

Who put that in my signature? OMG!

I've just got an answer from samsung customer service (swedish one). According to the message we're getting ICS-update for sure in the first quarter of 2012

Yes, it is.
I confirm this as wrote in the first post.http://android.hdblog.it/2011/12/20/samsung-conferma-android-4-0-per-la-gamma-top-galaxy/

Second official confirmation for ICS on GALAXY R.
http://www.sammobile.com/2011/12/22/official-no-android-4-0-for-galaxy-s-and-galaxy-tab/
They explain also why galaxy S and tab wont be getting ICS.
"For the following devices it is a FACT they will receive their updates:"
GALAXY S II
GALAXY S II LTE
GALAXY Note
GALAXY R
GALAXY Tab 10.1
GALAXY Tab 8.9
GALAXY Tab 7.7
GALAXY Tab 7.0

Correct me if I'm wrong but I've always thought SGS had almost identical specs as Nexus S, which has already got an update. Is it Touchwizz that is so demanding?

I believe they both share hardware but touchwizz 5.0 is only for dual core lol. They say that some hardware wont work on 4.0 ... I dont know what the mean...

Related

Samsung Galaxy R is discontinued, so says Samsung outlets

I contacted Samsung's flagship outlet in India. They said that this product is not being manufactured anymore.
I guess Samsung stopped manufacturing this product. Could be the reason for price drop.
Even with enormous demand for this phone, I don't think they will restart manufacturing because they will be releasing Galaxy S III very soon and will start working on a cheaper variant of Galaxy S III
Maybe calling it a Galaxy R II or Galaxy S III SC-LCD.
That's a really heartbreaking news for me. I really expected this product to be available abundantly and many of the Devs to buy it.
That could've taken our device above the Optimus 2X in every aspect.
Anyway, I would say that this a one sweet sexy baby that we all got.
Hey, but there are some weird thoughts that is crossing my mind. Have you people checked Samsung India's Galaxy R page?
When we click on the link to buy it, it takes us to Letsbuy's website.
That's just a normal online shopping website.
Is there any chance that there is some exclusive deal between Samsung India and Letsbuy that Samsung are providing the stocks exclusively to Letsbuy?
If you check, Letsbuy is the only website that has Galaxy R in stock right now. That too at a price of 21k INR (420 US$)
Could the members from other countries comment about the availability in their respective countries?
Dude if you wanna buy this Phone try on ebay...its available.....also check in your near local stores....dont go to samsung outlets...
i got mine for 20500rs...a week ago frm a dealer....
That's a pretty decent deal that you got. The lowest at eBay India is at 23.5k INR
Out of stock on FlipKart,i think its the cheapest you can buy online for 21k
I bought this phone last Sunday for 21K and that guy sold 3 phones in front of me in few minutes.
It was the cheapest deal i found. This phone is really awesome
We have it in Russia about from $530 to $620 USD in internet stores and regular shops
But we are paying about $170 USD for russian goverment test mark inside
Its still easily available.. atleast on ebay
its been thr on "Deals of the week" from past few weeks...
It is available on eBay, a place where you are supposed to get at good prices. But it's at 23-24k minimum. There's a shortage for the device that's sure. I only have a doubt regarding the production status. Because Samsung stores and many of the dealers said so. I really hope that the device comes back to all the dealers and it is available adequately. More the people who own it ≈ More members in our community ≈ More developer support of it.
dh33r4j said:
It is available on eBay, a place where you are supposed to get at good prices. But it's at 23-24k minimum. There's a shortage for the device that's sure. I only have a doubt regarding the production status. Because Samsung stores and many of the dealers said so. I really hope that the device comes back to all the dealers and it is available adequately. More the people who own it ≈ More members in our community ≈ More developer support of it.
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I guess the Dev's are gonna need all the help they can get from those owning the device. Chances of getting ROM's other than Infected are looking slim.
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An AOSP port is in the works. If you ask me, if the ROMs are good, all that we require is 3 good ROMs for any device. One based on stock like Infected ROM, one CM and MIUI.
Actually, if the ROM is really good, having only 3 is the best. You wont be confused about which to choose. All the members of the community will provide more concentrated support. Having lots of ROMs could make you want to flash each and every ROM and updates to finalise which you like the most. It could take a toll on your social life. (www.xda-developers.com/announcements/do-you-have-obsessive-rom-updating-disorder-ord/)
The AOSP ROM might take a while to reach usable stage. I think that we wont be able to use conventional methods to port AOSP to Tegra devices. Once nVidia releases the ICS sources and the official ICS rolls out, we can expect a surge in the development.
Spain still sells R via the only carrier that has it. No prob at all.to buy it from carrier here, no probs of stock either
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From little bit what I know of Marketing, it may be the case that Samsung Galaxy R is actually cannibalizing the sales of Galaxy S/Plus in India which still sell a lot, considering novice users dont know theadvantages between single/dual core processors. Samsung may want to push the sales of galaxy S/ S plus until stocks are out and then restart stocking Galaxy R. OR they may actually cease from selling Galaxy R in the Indian Market. The situation on Dev support would become apparent once its known whether other markets are going to discontinue Galaxy R also.
(Btw: Sammy, if you really did this then God bless Apple f**k you. If not, then let the hunter become the victim.)
Try Sulekha.com. I got it for less than 19k from there! It still sells around that price if you keep tracking (cycles price almost every day)
shiva.kakkar11 said:
From little bit what I know of Marketing, it may be the case that Samsung Galaxy R is actually cannibalizing the sales of Galaxy S/Plus in India which still sell a lot, considering novice users dont know theadvantages between single/dual core processors. Samsung may want to push the sales of galaxy S/ S plus until stocks are out and then restart stocking Galaxy R. OR they may actually cease from selling Galaxy R in the Indian Market. The situation on Dev support would become apparent once its known whether other markets are going to discontinue Galaxy R also.
(Btw: Sammy, if you really did this then God bless Apple f**k you. If not, then let the hunter become the victim.)
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Really good post, It's not only marketing here though, I would even mention some microeconomics as well
i have read that many galaxy r owners are facing random shut down problems which might be due to hardware issues and also samsung may not wamt to keep this phone running in market for so long, that it would affect sales of other models like s2 and s plus
rahul32111 said:
i have read that many galaxy r owners are facing random shut down problems which might be due to hardware issues and also samsung may not wamt to keep this phone running in market for so long, that it would affect sales of other models like s2 and s plus
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I bought my SGR on 19th Jan.... In the very fist hour of usage got random restarts..... The phone does not completely restarts though.... Its just... All current tasks get cleaned from ram... screen does not respond for about 10 seconds.... goes dark and again comes back like it has restarted....... Now, i tried hard resetting the device about 5 times.... now will go to the Samsung Service.....
Is there anyone else who faced similar problem.......
Problem: At times my phone does not respond and resets... to start up condition.....
I did face the same problem...Samsung service centre told me that my mother board was faulty....I got my phone replaced from my retailer later...
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venkatraman said:
I did face the same problem...Samsung service centre told me that my mother board was faulty....I got my phone replaced from my retailer later...
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Is it the very same problem that I have mentioned??? .... If yes... Shall, I hope... I will also get mine replaced by SAMSUNG SERVICE coz I think there is no stocks anymore at retailer .... I am really disappointed by this.....

Attention! ( No ICS for Galaxy R = We must join together and act ! )

As you all know Samsung promised ICS for Samsung Galaxy R, but now thay give a different explanation, like this " Samsung Mobile España...Galaxy R no recibirá ICS ya que no se puede asegurar el perfecto funcionamiento en estos dispositivos. Saludos." in translation " R Galaxy not receive ICS because there is no guarantee the perfect operation in these devices. Greetings. "
My suggestion is to unite together and through social networks show our unhappiness !
I suggest the following:
1. Every day act on different fb page.
2. Put them the same questions until we get concrete answers to us.
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Go to this fb page http://www.facebook.com/pages/Samsung-Galaxy-R-We-want-ICS/354963667898597?skip_nax_wizard=true and put yours knowledge
Thanks Cooleagle for this
FACEBOOK:
- Samsung Mobiles FB: http://www.facebook.com/SamsungMobile
- Samsung FB UK: http://www.facebook.com/SamsungUK
- Samsung Mobiles FB India: http://www.facebook.com/samsung.mobiles
- Samsung FB Russia: http://www.facebook.com/samsungru
- Samsung Mobiles FB Spain: http://www.facebook.com/samsungmobilespain
TWITTER:
- Samsung Mobiles Twitter: http://twitter.com/#!/SamsungMobile
- Samsung Twitter UK: http://twitter.com/#!/SamsungMobileUK
- Samsung Mobiles Twitter India: http://twitter.com/#!/samsung_india
- Samsung Twitter Russia: http://twitter.com/#!/samsungru
- Samsung Mobile Twitter US: http://twitter.com/#!/samsungmobileus
Questions that could be asked:
- Why is Samsung not updating Galaxy R to ICS 4.0 as they had promised earlier ? Why are you fooling your consumers ?(Post links to the above mentioned articles as proof but also take screenshots before as they can simply take down that page)
- Why is Samsung back tracking on the updates even though Galaxy R is highly capable of running ICS ? Why are you fooling your customers ?
- If Samsung is updating then what's the schedule and when will Galaxy R get ICS ?
- If Samsung is not updating then give back our money as they are not updating as promised earlier which was basis on which we bought Galaxy R. Ask others users not to buy Samsung mobiles because they cheat & fool users.
Add some idea if you have
Oh well you made a new thread with all my posts from HERE & made this thread.
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The tentative dates given by various regional departments of Samsung:
Germany: Scheduled for July, should be available by August.
Sweden: Between July 23, 2012 - August 5, 2012
India: ICS will be released for Galaxy R very soon. Stay tuned.
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Guys please chip in with all you can do, whether you are on the move, in office, in school, in college, etc.
Post/comment in least 10 Facebook pages/ websites /forums daily if you want Galaxy R to get ICS 4.0 & want to enjoy all the latest features on your beloved Galaxy R. Thanks.
For the record:
Date: 20th December 2011
Samsung unveils ICS update schedule for Galaxy line(GSMArena): http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_unveils_ics_update_schedule_for_galaxy_line-news-3544.php
Date: 20th December, 2011
Android 4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich upgrade for GALAXY devices (by Samsung Mobile FB): http://www.facebook.com/notes/samsung-mobile/android-40-ice-cream-sandwich-upgrade-for-galaxy-devices/328795820483403
13th January 2012
Samsung_India Tweets: Galaxy R will get ICS upgrade but we do not have the exact information on the dates. Will update you once we have that information available ( URL: https://twitter.com/#!/Samsung_India/statuses/157775575862358016)
SEOUL, Korea – March 13, 2012
Samsung confirms Galaxy R will get ICS in the following news from Samsung's own news site: http://www.samsung.com/us/news/newsPreviewRead.do?news_seq=20138
This is false, Samsung will update Galaxy R, Google force companies to update at least one time their devices.
Guys let us ask for refund if our phone doesnt receive the update.Im totally furious!
i have mailed to samsung service care, mailed to their CEO, mailed to samsung customer voice, wall post on india fb page, twitted on india twitter.
will update here if i get any replies to those
Punman1989 said:
Guys let us ask for refund if our phone doesnt receive the update.Im totally furious!
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My friend let's put this anger to use & vent it at Samsung on the pages posted above & also add your own. Thanks.
I have attached all the screenshots,
You can even mail these screenshots to the Service Care and to CEO..
Please comment or like my post.
http://www.facebook.com/permalink.p...793&id=114219621960016&ref=notif&notif_t=like
My post to Samsung Srbija ( Samsung from my country )
I ask : All this is nice, Samsung presents a new model Galaxy S3, etc., but what about the promised ICS update for other models? Samsung has promised ICS for the Galaxy R out, now our comments on what ever Samsung page are deleted and users are baned. Question for you, do you know when you might be expected update specifically for the Galaxy R? thank you
p.s if you are not able to give me an answer, who should I contact?
Answer: Dear Zeljko, we just launched an update to ICS for S2, we are working on and to come to the other Galaxy devices, including the Galaxy R as soon as possible.
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I do not believe in this, because thay do not give concrete answers.
@ZeXzr
Thanks for updating buddy
You could reply them asking for at least some approximate but concrete schedule on when we will get it my friend.
maslafonjr said:
This is false, Samsung will update Galaxy R, Google force companies to update at least one time their devices.
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Well let's hope that's the case & we get a positive conformation on the ICS update buddy.
It began http://www.facebook.com/samsungmobilespain
look wall of page
They deleted our comments 3 or 4 are deleted
Its is Spanish language...dude....
Please translate it into English...and what has started happening ??
I put on couple of my sites that people ask a question od Samsung fb page, thay comment but comments have been deleted...
one more for.....
just received a phone call from samsung csc regarding to my complaint mail.
the csc guy told me that samsung havent announced ANY OFFICIAL STATEMENT FOR INDIA that they will launch ICS to galaxy R, also they cant provide any estimated time about when will ICS come for our device. and about official ICS announcement for sgr, its on samsung's global and other websites so they cant provide any info on that, they only have details about what is posted on indian page.
xlm13x said:
i have mailed to samsung service care, mailed to their CEO, mailed to samsung customer voice, wall post on india fb page, twitted on india twitter.
will update here if i get any replies to those
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Hey man can give the email IDs of that CEO, Customer Care, Customer Voice, any others you got ?
I would also like to mail them and also encourage others to do so.
Thanks.
ZeXzr said:
one more for.....
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can u plz translate what does sammy guys write in ur lang?
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'cooleagle' said:
Hey man can give the email IDs of that CEO, Customer Care, Customer Voice, any others you got ?
I would also like to mail them and also encourage others to do so.
Thanks.
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on this page u can find those contacts for india.
http://www.samsung.com/in/info/contactus.html
ZeXzr said:
one more for.....
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can you please translate what Samsung replied ...
can we get refund through legal ?
because, lot of people buy this phone because of their promises through media.
(Apple refunded for iPad 3 4g problems in australia.)
jason11 said:
can we get refund through legal ?
because, lot of people buy this phone because of their promises through media.
(Apple refunded for iPad 3 4g problems in australia.)
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as csc guys talked with me, he told me that samsung havent declared that they will launch ICS for sgr in india, its not mentioned on indian sammy website also, so i think indian guys cant claim to refund money but in other countries where sammy have declared that they will provide ICS maybe can claim.

EU Versions and Chinese Support/ China Versions and Play Store

Hi guys,
Im looking into buying the Note 10.1 as I am really impressed by its note-taking functionalities. However, as i am currently residing in China, I am unsure if the official devices released here have Google Play Store support. I know that the phones here released by the telcos have the Play Store and Google services removed. Can anyone advise?
Also, if you have the EU version, can you check if there is native Chinese Handwriting and Pinyin Input Support? If so, I would love to get my hands on an import. If not, I will have to wait for the HK or Asia Pacific version as I am interested in the wifi only version (N8010).
Thanks in advance!!
Anyone with an EU Note can help?
One X to rule them all
Read this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=30522748#post30522748 - apparently there are many languages with handwriting recognition (for the keyboard) but in S Pen only English works.
Shame on samsung
samuelong87 said:
Hi guys,
Im looking into buying the Note 10.1 as I am really impressed by its note-taking functionalities. However, as i am currently residing in China, I am unsure if the official devices released here have Google Play Store support. I know that the phones here released by the telcos have the Play Store and Google services removed. Can anyone advise?
Also, if you have the EU version, can you check if there is native Chinese Handwriting and Pinyin Input Support? If so, I would love to get my hands on an import. If not, I will have to wait for the HK or Asia Pacific version as I am interested in the wifi only version (N8010).
Thanks in advance!!
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Hi,
I have just bought one in November this year, after having seen a demonstration with native Samsung Chinese Keyboard, done by Samsung people.
Unfortunately, the guys use a worldwide demonstration machine that support any kind of keyboard and the one I bought from a French store only have the European version, or ROM, with NO Native Samsung Chinese keyboard.
So today, I am very dissapointed, I called 10 times the Samsung Customer Service, emailed to them, and I got the same answers: no way top have a native Samsung Chinese keyboard with the European version.
So the only way I have, is to find a site where I can download the Chinese ROM ... but no idea where I can find that.
If you somebody knows it, please tell me , that would be very helpful .
This is the first time and last time I buy a Samsung mobile device .... I used to be an Iphone and Ipad user, Apple have only ONE version worldwide, so when you get one, you know you can use it worldwide ... In this area, Samsung is still far behind Apple and far less effective in terms of Customer Service .... that's a SHAME !!!
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menglimfr said:
Hi,
I have just bought one in November this year, after having seen a demonstration with native Samsung Chinese Keyboard, done by Samsung people.
Unfortunately, the guys use a worldwide demonstration machine that support any kind of keyboard and the one I bought from a French store only have the European version, or ROM, with NO Native Samsung Chinese keyboard.
So today, I am very dissapointed, I called 10 times the Samsung Customer Service, emailed to them, and I got the same answers: no way top have a native Samsung Chinese keyboard with the European version.
So the only way I have, is to find a site where I can download the Chinese ROM ... but no idea where I can find that.
If you somebody knows it, please tell me , that would be very helpful .
This is the first time and last time I buy a Samsung mobile device .... I used to be an Iphone and Ipad user, Apple have only ONE version worldwide, so when you get one, you know you can use it worldwide ... In this area, Samsung is still far behind Apple and far less effective in terms of Customer Service .... that's a SHAME !!!
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UK Not getting Octa Version - Cnet Source

Apparently the UK is no longer getting the OCTA Version, according to CNET
Read here:
http://crave.cnet.co.uk/mobiles/samsung-galaxy-s4-is-quad-core-in-the-uk-not-octa-core-50010712/
Thoughts?
AMDPOWERFIST said:
Apparently the UK is no longer getting the OCTA Version, according to CNET
Read here:
http://crave.cnet.co.uk/mobiles/samsung-galaxy-s4-is-quad-core-in-the-uk-not-octa-core-50010712/
Thoughts?
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Not getting Octa version is a great thing. You'll be unified with the US, and international LTE owners aka the majority. :laugh:
Livebyte said:
Not getting Octa version is a great thing. You'll be unified with the US, and international LTE owners aka the majority. :laugh:
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lol.... wrong
The Asian market for this phone will outsell both the US and UK combined.
So it will be a relatively even split.
US and UK get the Snapdragon version and the rest of the world gets the Octa version (assumption)
Livebyte said:
Not getting Octa version is a great thing. You'll be unified with the US, and international LTE owners aka the majority. :laugh:
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It's the GPU I care about most, not buying a snapdragon s4 when's it's not much better than an HTC one
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Already posted in info thread
Also info goes in info thread
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AMDPOWERFIST said:
lol.... wrong
The Asian market for this phone will outsell both the US and UK combined.
So it will be a relatively even split.
US and UK get the Snapdragon version and the rest of the world gets the Octa version (assumption)
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Where do most developers come from?
And if I was a game developer which version do you think I will want to develop more?
Duh. US and UK versions. The markets that matter.
Plus the homeland of Samsung is getting Snapdragon version in all their carriers.
My country, Singapore is also getting the Snapdragon version.
Livebyte said:
Where do most developers come from?
And if I was a game developer which version do you think I will want to develop more?
Duh. US and UK versions. The markets that matter.
Plus the homeland of Samsung is getting Snapdragon version in all their carriers.
My country, Singapore is also getting the Snapdragon version.
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LOL the markets that matter.... are the markets that sell the most... Asian markets will sell far more than the US and UK markets...
Just because the US and UK are predominately english speaking countries and have alot of people in those countries, doesnt make them the only markets that matter...
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LOL the markets that matter.... are the markets that sell the most... Asian markets will sell far more than the US and UK markets...
Just because the US and UK are predominately english speaking countries and have alot of people in those countries, doesnt make them the only markets that matter...
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True. Also, there are plenty of Asian XDA developers and app developers. Just look at forums for other devices.
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1337RYoN said:
True. Also, there are plenty of Asian XDA developers and app developers. Just look at forums for other devices.
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Theres THOUSANDS of Asian developers...
Just because they arent all on XDA froums doesnt mean they arent on their own forums.
I dont read chinese, but if you do a quick google search, many pop up...
Simple closed minded people thinking the UK and US are the only countries in the world...
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Theres THOUSANDS of Asian developers...
Just because they arent all on XDA froums doesnt mean they arent on their own forums.
I dont read chinese, but if you do a quick google search, many pop up...
Simple closed minded people thinking the UK and US are the only countries in the world...
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I am from Singapore dude, an Asian?
Look here, I'm just trying to help.
I don't need take any insults from you.
The only time Exynos-variety will be majority is when Note 3 is out.
Happy waiting~
EDIT: Also, I'm chinese.
Livebyte said:
I am from Singapore dude, an Asian?
Look here, I'm just trying to help.
I don't need take any insults from you.
The only time Exynos-variety will be majority is when Note 3 is out.
Happy waiting~
EDIT: Also, I'm chinese.
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I wasn't insulting you.
I was stating facts.
Even if your chinese and from singapore, why would you think that the US and UK are the biggest and therefore the only important markets on the planet? When clearly the Asian markets outweigh those 2 combined by a fact of something like 3 to 1... or 66% higher (when it comes to overall sales records)
Anyways, enough bickering about which markets are more important than others, and back to which countries are actually going to get the Octa Processor version.
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I wasn't insulting you.
I was stating facts.
Even if your chinese and from singapore, why would you think that the US and UK are the biggest and therefore the only important markets on the planet? When clearly the Asian markets outweigh those 2 combined by a fact of something like 3 to 1... or 66% higher (when it comes to overall sales records)
Anyways, enough bickering about which markets are more important than others, and back to which countries are actually going to get the Octa Processor version.
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Can u provide figures to back this up?
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As for which countries are getting octa check info thread the last couple links
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I wasn't insulting you.
I was stating facts.
Even if your chinese and from singapore, why would you think that the US and UK are the biggest and therefore the only important markets on the planet? When clearly the Asian markets outweigh those 2 combined by a fact of something like 3 to 1... or 66% higher (when it comes to overall sales records)
Anyways, enough bickering about which markets are more important than others, and back to which countries are actually going to get the Octa Processor version.
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I don't know. I've been reading too much The Verge & Engadget I guess.
Well, sorry for my misjudgement.
Any country that doesn't have LTE.
But if I'm not wrong, not all carriers in UK have LTE right?
It means there should I9500 right?
There's a positive and negative to this.
The obvious negative is we won't get to use the new more powerful A15 big.little architecture chip.
The positive however is the Qualcomm chip will have all the sources. Which means CM10, etc. should be alot easier to port to the GS4. Assuming they chose to support it.
I was personally looking forward to the A15 version. I'll probably wait and see what the Nexus 5 will offer now.
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Can u provide figures to back this up?
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Certainly, those are rough off the top of my head figures, but ill try and find the article that i read. Gimmie a few mins
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Certainly, those are rough off the top of my head figures, but ill try and find the article that i read. Gimmie a few mins
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Reason I ask is that your most likely to find android as being popular but no specifics as to the galaxy s line
The iPhone is most popular in the US while in every other region android dominates yet that's enough for Apple to be the most profitable company in the world though Apple doesn't make all its money from actual selling of iPhone but that has to say something about the US smartphone market
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Livebyte said:
I don't know. I've been reading too much The Verge & Engadget I guess.
Well, sorry for my misjudgement.
Any country that doesn't have LTE.
But if I'm not wrong, not all carriers in UK have LTE right?
It means there should I9500 right?
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I'm not sure about LTE
But the article I read stated that UK will get both versions of the s4
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Reason I ask is that your most likely to find android as being popular but no specifics as to the galaxy s line
The iPhone is most popular in the US while in every other region android dominates yet that's enough for Apple to be the most profitable company in the world though Apple doesn't make all its money from actual selling of iPhone but that has to say something about the US smartphone market
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I cant find the exact article i read the other day, but it was something around those figures. This is including the fact that Australia and India are also classified as "Asia-pacific" region and classified in the Asian market figures also.
Heres 2 articles i found while trying to find the one with exact figures, stating that Samsung is going heavily after the Asian markets:
http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-57...o-hit-asia-at-same-time-as-rest-of-the-world/
"Asia is a key market for Samsung, particularly in Hong Kong and Singapore. In more emerging markets, like Thailand, Samsung's lower priced devices are more popular. "
http://finance.yahoo.com/blogs/the-...atest-target-samsung-galaxy-s4-212949565.html
"Samsung all but took over control of the Chinese smartphone market last year, trouncing both Nokia and Apple with more than 30 million units sold."
Sorry i'll keep looking though.
Vertron said:
There's a positive and negative to this.
The obvious negative is we won't get to use the new more powerful A15 big.little architecture chip.
The positive however is the Qualcomm chip will have all the sources. Which means CM10, etc. should be alot easier to port to the GS4. Assuming they chose to support it.
I was personally looking forward to the A15 version. I'll probably wait and see what the Nexus 5 will offer now.
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But Krait 300 (for Snapdragon 600) is literally a modified A15 core. On the S4 Pro and Dual core (Krait 200) it was a mix of A9 and A15. So generally, you will still experience the A15 performance with better battery.
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I cant find the exact article i read the other day, but it was something around those figures. This is including the fact that Australia and India are also classified as "Asia-pacific" region and classified in the Asian market figures also.
Heres 2 articles i found while trying to find the one with exact figures, stating that Samsung is going heavily after the Asian markets:
http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-57...o-hit-asia-at-same-time-as-rest-of-the-world/
"Asia is a key market for Samsung, particularly in Hong Kong and Singapore. In more emerging markets, like Thailand, Samsung's lower priced devices are more popular. "
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As I suspected galaxy s3 isn't lower priced they also referred to Asia as an emerging market meaning is not as large
http://finance.yahoo.com/blogs/the-...atest-target-samsung-galaxy-s4-212949565.html
"Samsung all but took over control of the Chinese smartphone market last year, trouncing both Nokia and Apple with more than 30 million units sold."
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30 million is how much they sold totally (article written in March) in all regions not in Asia
Sorry i'll keep looking though.
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I was trying to point out there's little data on galaxy s popularity in particular regions and based on the facts we do have it makes more sense to assume US and UK are a larger markets
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I was trying to point out there's little data on galaxy s popularity in particular regions and based on the facts we do have it makes more sense to assume US and UK are a larger markets
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Good assumptions, but theres a huge difference in population between US and UK vs Asia-pacific regions....
The 2 biggest population countries in the world are India (1,241,491,960) and China (1,344,130,000), with a total of 2.6 billion vs population of US (313,914,040) and UK (62,641,000) total 377 million...
This is also excluding from the Asia-Pacific markets other Asian countries such as Singapore (5,183,700), Indonesia (242,325,638), Australia (22,620,600) etc etc
Estimated that a total of 4.2 billion people live in the Asia-Pacific region according to stats released in 2010 (Source)
And considering that the worlds TOTAL population is only 6,973,738,433 (so roughly 7 billion)
I would assume much of the sales would be consumed in this region compared to JUST the US and UK which consists of only 5.3% of the total worlds population... where as the Asia-Pacific region consists of 60% of the total worlds population...
Now given their economic stance of the US vs UK i can totally understand that the price of this phone is out of reach of a huge portion of the Asia-Pacific regions, but they still have the numbers to purchase far more units than anywhere else on the planet.
But we'll have to wait and see how it goes, because its all still speculation, even the article i read was speculation. At best we can estimate how many units COULD be sold, based on previous market sales of there previous products, such as the S3 or Note 2 etc and even then, the S4 has far more marketing than either of those products combined.
Estimated sales figures from these types of stats though, does show promising results for their 100million estiamted sales targets:
"Galaxy S4 has received four times as many registrations as the Galaxy S3 did last year -- a 446 per cent increase."
http://crave.cnet.co.uk/mobiles/gal...tered-phone-ever-uk-retailer-boasts-50010710/

Expansys USA confirms Octa.

As per title.... I asked Expansys USA to confirm which variant they would be selling and the office manager (Caroline Philipchuck) checked with their procurement and confirmed that the units are sourced from South America and are the Octa without LTE. Again, without LTE despite what it says on their website.
Release date?
I don't have LTE in my area and wont for years so I preordered this hoping it would be the Octa as stated. This morning I got an email saying they were shipping next week and to confirm my order for immedieate shipment. Thats when I contacted them to confirm which variant. Whether it actually ships then, got no idea.
I've just ordered mine after they confirmed (by chat) it has Exynos 5 Octa.
I'm from Europe and they use FR office to serve european customers, They will receive it in USA office next week so i think it will be shipped between 5/10 days.
I'm from the UK so will I be able to purchase it from the US site? And will it charge me import fee?
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well negrielectronics also has the Exysnos 5 octa on preorder but it will cost you around 1000$.
http://negrielectronics.com/samsung-i9500-galaxy-s-iv-16-gb-lta-unlocked-black-mist.html
NewEgg get's most of their devices from Trinidad so they'll be Octa/HSPA too.
CQ7 said:
I've just ordered mine after they confirmed (by chat) it has Exynos 5 Octa.
I'm from Europe and they use FR office to serve european customers, They will receive it in USA office next week so i think it will be shipped between 5/10 days.
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The current status says due May 4th
Here's a helpful hint about Expansys. Their online inventory isn't real time and fluctuates madly as do the availability and shipment dates. They only work business hours Monday through Friday and aren't particularly responsive to e-mails depending on the time of day they are received. I've ordered a bunch of stuff from them and they've always been reliable (dates and time aside) and easy to work with as I had a couple of returns/exchanges. So save yourself a lot of head banging based on expected delivery; you'll get what you ordered but it's not always going to be on the timetable indicated.
Agree with Barry on them and have ordered there numberous times myself. Best to ignore their online status for anything and simply call or email. Once contact has been made they have always followed through for me. At first I thought they were kind of sketchy but they have an odd knack for pulling through despite the somewhat irregular service.
$775 though.....yeesh.
barondebxl said:
well negrielectronics also has the Exysnos 5 octa on preorder but it will cost you around 1000$.
http://negrielectronics.com/samsung-i9500-galaxy-s-iv-16-gb-lta-unlocked-black-mist.html
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The one yuo linked to is the LTA version..
Not sure what LTA is...
But the regular non-LTA, non-LTE Exynos version is priced a quite bit cheaper ~$800
http://negrielectronics.com/samsung-i9500-galaxy-s-iv-16-gb-unlocked-black-mist.html
jeffs99 said:
The one yuo linked to is the LTA version..
Not sure what LTA is...
But the regular non-LTA, non-LTE Exynos version is priced a quite bit cheaper ~$800
http://negrielectronics.com/samsung-i9500-galaxy-s-iv-16-gb-unlocked-black-mist.html
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Not sure what LTA stands for, maybe LTE but in a different language? lol.
I dont know why people must have the octa version. The differences in performance is not that big. And neither is the battery. Games peforms better in snapdragon chispet and In daily use of both two phones, you wont see the difference at all. What important is the LTE and dev support. Believe me, i have a s3, the dev there pull their hair off when they try to develop roms for the s3.
And trust me, you dont want to have the octa chipset, in view of dev support. All the experienced exynos developers will not support the chipset anymore. It take 2 week to develop a good aosp rom for sony experia z and it take 16! month to develop the same thing for samsung s3, and it still buggy.
So why would you still buy the exynos chipset phone?
Sorry for my bad english btw
Dont care about the performance as phones have reached a level of performance that fully satisfies me, I'm in it for the batt life. No insult to the gents working on ASOP for whom I have nothing but props but I prefer touchwiz based roms for the time being meaning support isn't a concern for me. Nor do I care about LTE since my area isn't even on my carriers road map yet. I get a new phone at the most annually but ususally sooner so I'm going to try out the Octa and see how it goes. If the better battery plays out great, if not the next thing is always coming and the Octa becomes one more phone in a long succession phones that have gone on to their next owner. The long and the short of it is I lose nothing by giving the Octa a spin so I'm going to do just that.
definitely will not buy from Negr* anymore. Recall my painful exp last yr with S3
gg_monogram said:
definitely will not buy from Negr* anymore. Recall my painful exp last yr with S3
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Thanks for noting the bad service from Negri it was one I had considered.
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Here's a helpful hint about Expansys. Their online inventory isn't real time and fluctuates madly as do the availability and shipment dates. They only work business hours Monday through Friday and aren't particularly responsive to e-mails depending on the time of day they are received. I've ordered a bunch of stuff from them and they've always been reliable (dates and time aside) and easy to work with as I had a couple of returns/exchanges. So save yourself a lot of head banging based on expected delivery; you'll get what you ordered but it's not always going to be on the timetable indicated.
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So basically if I was to order from Expansys USA it may take awhile to get my order but they don't rip anyone off? I don't mind waiting as there already is Exynos shortage, I just don't want to be out $775. Thank you for posting your experience with them.
mw86 said:
Thanks for noting the bad service from Negri it was one I had considered.
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So basically if I was to order from Expansys USA it may take awhile to get my order but they don't rip anyone off? I don't mind waiting as there already is Exynos shortage, I just don't want to be out $775. Thank you for posting your experience with them.
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It's a legit website. You don't have to worry about getting ripped off. Pay with a credit card. OR pay through PayPal route that through a credit card.
Cheers
mw86 said:
So basically if I was to order from Expansys USA it may take awhile to get my order but they don't rip anyone off? I don't mind waiting as there already is Exynos shortage, I just don't want to be out $775. Thank you for posting your experience with them.
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They are absolutely fine, before and after the sale. When new devices come out their slammed because they can show availability when they don't have any and people get frustrated with the delay(s). I've never heard anyone complain that they didn't get what they ordered (at some point) or that they in any way felt ripped-off. I'd suggest calling rather than e-mailing though if you need them because at times they can be slow to respond. Like I said before I've had to do some returns and exchanges and they were really accommodating.
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It's a legit website. You don't have to worry about getting ripped off. Pay with a credit card. OR pay through PayPal route that through a credit card.
Cheers
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Until they change the price, try to send you something else, say a release date before anyone else on the planet and then when unsurprisingly the stock doesn't arrive in time tell lies. Search Negri on the sgs3 forum if you want to read a story about how to make certain a whole bunch of people will never order from then again.

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