Hey you know all those free and 99 cent apps that Gameloft had during Thanksgiving? Make sure you back up those apks before flashing your phone. I flashed mine back to stock tonight and when I went to the Gameloft site, they had no record of me purchasing anything. Fortunately I remembered I had backed them up previously. My paranoia paid off!
How does that make gameloft a rip-off? The same thing would happen with there full price apps create an account with gameloft if you want them to remember your games
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And I did that first - before I ever downloaded anything to begin with.
Fortunately, I have my receipts from Paypal for the 3 games I bought. Opened a case with Gameloft, just to make sure my account gets fixed.
I'm pretty sure that flashing a new firmware to your phone can cause the website to think it is a completely different phone. I had setup an account and this happened to me.
I just emailed them with the list of games that I had downloaded and they sent me on the APKs. No hassle at all. Some of the best customer service that I have had. I had bought 2 games and gotten 1 in a free offer. So I had 2 paypal receipts and they still emailed me on the 3 apk files.
Pretty misleading title since you hadn't actually dealt with them to get the APKs back.
Sorry, I didn't mean to be misleading, that's why I said POTENTIAL for a rip-off. I didn't say it -was- a rip-off. But when they ask for your phone number and account login info and you give it and it comes back and says you haven't purchased anything, that's very suspicious. I just wanted to give everyone the heads-up to make sure to back their apks up if they are going to wipe and reinstall.
However, as you stated, I emailed them, and they sent me the links to download the APKs. Great! Glad they did - but isn't it interesting I didn't have any trouble getting my EA games back? Just sayin'.
Hey, don't flame me, man! I'm OLD! But I mean well!
Sorry, Gameloft! You are NOT a rip-off!
Wish gameloft just used the market because its really annoying having to go to their website.
Gameloft ain't rip offs. In fact they are the best. The problem with order & chaos recently. I sent them an email and gave me the update within the next day, then when I told them the play controls weren't working and could only play it with touch screen they are now giving me 95 runes for the trouble and letting me keep the game. 95 runes is equivalent to £15 as you have to pay to get runes. Now I say that don't sound like rip offs to me. Who looks a fool now ?
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Sorry, I didn't mean to be misleading, that's why I said POTENTIAL for a rip-off. I didn't say it -was- a rip-off. But when they ask for your phone number and account login info and you give it and it comes back and says you haven't purchased anything, that's very suspicious. I just wanted to give everyone the heads-up to make sure to back their apks up if they are going to wipe and reinstall.
However, as you stated, I emailed them, and they sent me the links to download the APKs. Great! Glad they did - but isn't it interesting I didn't have any trouble getting my EA games back? Just sayin'.
Hey, don't flame me, man! I'm OLD! But I mean well!
Sorry, Gameloft! You are NOT a rip-off!
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Right it looks at the device too. When you buy a game it give you the one for that specific device. Also it knows what games work and don't for each device. Hence why with some devices there are only 21 games or the play has 42 games fir example. So when you go into it on a different fw or Rom it knows that q change has been made and for fraud purposes they have to do that. If you think. I have 4 SE devices. The play, Arc S, X10i and the Ray. Now I bought games for the x10 and when I went onto it on my Arc S it didn't show the games. But.... It does say on there site on the downloads page. Games that you bought for this DEVICE. So why does that make them a potential to be rip offs. I think you need to stop wasting server space and also post in the right section. I.E. The general or Q&A section. Think before making threads like this. If you read it properly on there website it does say what you bought for that device and when changing fw they know. Or everyone could just use my fw and dl my games that I paid for. They need to do that as like I said it is to prevent fraud.
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I didn't load different firmware. I did a factory reset.
And this thread went HERE because it was about apps.
Good day.
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Why don't you bite me?
I didn't load different firmware. I did a factory reset. So your premise is as screwy as you are.
And this thread went HERE because it was about apps.
Don't be such a pompous twit.
Good day.
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aahahaha. Your the one who is being rude and attacking. I didn't call you names I was just saying. Also this thread is not about apps its about a company so yes it should not be in this thread. Also I am reporting you for being rude and disrespectful by telling me to bite you. Oh and calling me names. Which is not allowed at xda. At the end of the day you are going on about a company being rip offs and running your mouth before you even think. If you had just checked and emailed gameloft they would of sorted it out. But instead you decided to come here and start accusing and saying gameloft are or could be rip offs. So..... I would just think before you start saying things again and also before you start flaming other members as well. I was just explaining how they work on their website and was just saying this thread is in the wrong section. No where in this thread is there anything about an app but instead a company. So this means its in the wrong thread. Really..... you need to slow down and think.
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P.S. and you said you didn't flash anything.
I just wanted to give everyone the heads-up to make sure to back their apks up if they are going to wipe and reinstall.
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That sounds like YOU flashed something and are telling people not to do the same.
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So why were any of your comments necessary at ALL, since I had already said what Gameloft did to correct my impression AND say "Sorry Gameloft, you are -not- a ripoff." It's not like I could kill the whole thread at that point. Did you really think your post(s) added anything productive or useful?
Furthermore, Gameloft sells APPS, the APPS in question were previously mentioned in other threads IN THIS SECTION, which was why it made sense to me to post my warning about a POTENTIAL issue with those same apps. Everyone knows that almost nobody ever reads the General or Questions section, because that's where the n00bs ask things like "I just bought an Xperia Play. What should I do now?"
Finally - I concede that the "bite me" and "twit" comments were unnecessary, and I apologize for making them. However, your entire POSTS were unnecessary as well.
And here's me thinking that this thread was put to bed after about four posts.
Tbh Blackwatch, it looks to me like you goaded net into a response. It was all pretty civil till you showed up.
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And here's me thinking that this thread was put to bed after about four posts.
Tbh Blackwatch, it looks to me like you goaded net into a response. It was all pretty civil till you showed up.
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And I wasn't the one who was uncivil at all. I guess you didn't read the whole thread. I wasn't the one flaming and throwing a tantrum. In fact all I said was that this is in the wrong thread and my views on him saying gameloft are or have potential to rip you off. Everyone here is allowed to have there say and say there views but no one is allowed to flame and curse or swear in that matter as bite me is an American swear word. So..... I think you are again another one who needs to stop picking sides and stay the hell out of our little argument. Where does it say everyone join this argument. Leave it to me and him to sort out and everyone else stay the hell out of our argument. I didn't start an argument at in fact he did by cursing and flaming. Thread is being reported to be closed and his post is too for an infraction. Oh and just so you get it into your heads I will say it one more time. I DIDNT START THE ARGUMENT!!!!!!!!!!!
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Dude, I apologized already, so let's just let it go. I tried to buy you a beer, but the Paypal link threw an error.
Everyone else - Peace out!
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Dude, I apologized already, so let's just let it go. I tried to buy you a beer, but the Paypal link threw an error.
Everyone else - Peace out!
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Dude. We sorted this out ages ago. But this other guy seems to think it's ok to carry it on. I have asked for a thread closure as I'm sure we both agree it dint need to be open no more as it's just now attention to the trolls and dude there is no need to buy me a beer. Also I will be releasing a Rom soon and I need someone to be a tester for me. So if you want as a special and personal request I want you to be one of my testers and that's you and you only from this thread. I have someone else who I am testing for and he will test mine as well. Pm me and let me know.
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Blackwatch
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Sorry, I didn't mean to be misleading, that's why I said POTENTIAL for a rip-off. I didn't say it -was- a rip-off. But when they ask for your phone number and account login info and you give it and it comes back and says you haven't purchased anything, that's very suspicious. I just wanted to give everyone the heads-up to make sure to back their apks up if they are going to wipe and reinstall.
However, as you stated, I emailed them, and they sent me the links to download the APKs. Great! Glad they did - but isn't it interesting I didn't have any trouble getting my EA games back? Just sayin'.
Hey, don't flame me, man! I'm OLD! But I mean well!
Sorry, Gameloft! You are NOT a rip-off!
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d31boy is really a flamer,read this thread on how he accusses me of being a spammer without evidence..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=22370680#post22370680
Why are you dragging up old threads? If you have a problem with me, report me.
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Since lately people feel i spam and i keep getting complaints i just want all my threads posts and my account here deleted.Iam tired of fighting with people i though i was adding something but i guess not so i go away as long as the games i made leave with me.so just delete all my stuff
Not sure why you seem to think this is necessary.. I just went over your thread history and though at first glance it might seem like "spam", each and every once is slightly different in title and content and that is not spam.
Maybe looking back, you should have kept all of your games in a single thread and maintained it there but at the same time, each app DOES justify a new thread as per the XDA-Developers.com rules AFAIK.
Don't let these guys get to you man...
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Not sure why you seem to think this is necessary.. I just went over your thread history and though at first glance it might seem like "spam", each and every once is slightly different in title and content and that is not spam.
Maybe looking back, you should have kept all of your games in a single thread and maintained it there but at the same time, each app DOES justify a new thread as per the XDA-Developers.com rules AFAIK.
Don't let these guys get to you man...
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i have made games for qvgq vga and wvga i couldnt post them together because it takes me 1-3 weeks apart and by then my old thread would be gone from opening list. But now moderators are pm me saying keep spam down and one moderator said something that pissed me off.He said something about warez.How the hell could i be posting any warez if i made my own games?and all the games i made where 1 to 3 levels max.Wow i cracked a 3 level game.How dumb is it to say that when none of the games i made are for sale, thats just plain stupid.I just want all my stuff of here so when i go on google or yahoo i dont see my games on xda-developers.Xda-developers did say that if any developer requests thier items to be off thier site they will honor that.But i have asked and they have not honored.So i guess they not as honorable as they claim they are.
didnt u make a thread like this before? and you stuck around... please make up your mind. keeping all your games in one thread isn't a bad idea btw, u should think about doing that.
and why is your domain name so ridiculously long? why not just get krenisis.com?
you follow me around
I swear i see you in my post all the time now... *****
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holy **** bro, the guy paid you a complement and you flip out
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see, this is why nobody cares if you stay or leave. you cry like a baby and your true nature is revealed when you don't hear what you want. it's not anybody's fault but your own that your games are terrible. that's why people consider it as spam. we've just been too nice to say it. nobody insulted you here, but since you feel the need to curse and throw a fit... it's time to be blunt with you.
if we wanted to play mario, we would get an emulator and play mario.
keep all your garbage in one dumpster please. good riddance.
If my games are so bad why do you follow me all around this whole site?????why are you allways in my face...No need for these comments
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If my games are so bad why do you follow me all around this whole site?????why are you allways in my face...No need for these comments
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No need for these comments
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If my games are so bad why do you follow me all around this whole site?????why are you allways in my face...No need for these comments
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LOL your logic and responses are baffling. Don't flatter yourself, nobody is following you around the site. Nobody is in your face. Nobody cares. YOU are in OUR faces. Posting separate threads once a week for your incomplete games that nobody downloads, then posting every other month that you're done here. The fits and temper tantrums were entertaining at first, but now they're getting old.
I posted once in one of your game threads and once here. All i said was that you love mario, that you'd be better off keeping your games in one thread (apparently you don't understand the benefits of organization and unification), and that your domain name is awkwardly long. Then you reply with insults and obscenities. Because of that, i've had no problem being brutally honest with you.
Keep it up... your reputation is already ruined here, not that it was ever a good one in the first place. Nobody downloaded your games before, do you think they will start after your display of childishness here? Nope.
Hey mate.
I suggest that you cool down request the MOD to delete this thread or close it.
Maybe you have the potential to make some really nice games.
But you need patience to make good things and you don;t need to get offended if someone does not like your work.
You need to be more determined to make something even better so that next time everyone likes it.
See if you just go on ranting swears which are not allowed on this forum and neither appreciated by anyone people will not start appreciating you people will only dislike you and then even if you make any good stuff looking at your track record people would not want to try it.
And if you got offended by a MOD's PM you should reply back to him and explain that your just beginning to make games and tell him that please let the game be and you will make a better version soon.
I'm sure he won't be rude to you if you ain't rude to him after all XDA ADMINs have made him a MOD for a reason not just anyone becomes a MOD.
And if you threaten us that you will leave XDA you must realize that this place has got millions of members if 1 leaves i don't even think that anyone will notice that and i will be you who will feel bad.
Hope you understand and hope you don't give me a reply full of swears which the MODs will have to edit.
We are just trying to explain something to you to sober your stupidity !
And everyone here please don't be rude to this guy he may be acting stupid give him time.
MODs please give him another chance to improve and show us what he can do with his skills in game making.
Thanks.
Peace to all.
the time to end is now here my username and password
Ok iam calm now and i figured a very smart solution to this mess. Since it seems i overstayed my welcome and iam tired of this fight.So this is the solution i will post my username and password here.I am going to go through all my threads and delete my comments and games.For all the people who hate me if you log in as me you can go through my threads and delete my stuff tonce this is finished and all my stuff is deleted i will ask moderator to ban the username and then i will be gone from here.After i leave xda-developers will be a better place.My username is public with password so iam no longer liable
Meh, krenisis, are you at this again?
I do not see your posts as being spam (if you want spam look at my post count. lol), even if they could be organized a lot better. A new application warrants a new thread, though it is better if you do it in the original thread.
Seriously, if you just took a step back and listened to what people say, theres quite a lot that only want to help, or even give you compliments, yet you insist on attacking them or coming back at them as if they said you were horrible.
Now It is understandable if english is not your first language (I am assuming here,) then things can get lost in translation which is understandable. But with that said sometimes you have to be patient and let things slide just in case it is that.
And if it isn't language, then you really need to just take a chill pill and have yourself a vacation because you seem very tense.
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Meh, krenisis, are you at this again?
I do not see your posts as being spam (if you want spam look at my post count. lol), even if they could be organized a lot better. A new application warrants a new thread, though it is better if you do it in the original thread.
Seriously, if you just took a step back and listened to what people say, theres quite a lot that only want to help, or even give you compliments, yet you insist on attacking them or coming back at them as if they said you were horrible.
Now It is understandable if english is not your first language (I am assuming here,) then things can get lost in translation which is understandable. But with that said sometimes you have to be patient and let things slide just in case it is that.
And if it isn't language, then you really need to just take a chill pill and have yourself a vacation because you seem very tense.
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Dear Shadow please leave him alone
lets all of us leave him alone.
we are no psychologists maybe he needs them.
Shadow could you please request a MOD to close this thread so that he doesn't post his password and stuff.
Thanks.
Ignore him now.
your a little late
your late my username and password is up please anyone iam deleting my post and my corny games from this website can you help me the faster this is done the quicker i be gone.I already started deleting as you might have noticed.As far as me being mental ,, i have been here for almost a year and never had a problem till recently when jerks started messing with me in my threads.Otherwise i wouldnt have blown up in such a fury.Doesnt matter now can you help me delete my stuff so i can leave thank you.
Account closed on user request.
Regards,
EqX
i was just curious if krylon has made any progress with CWM for the SGS4G? the last i read was that is was working on getting it to flash from the SD. i check his twitter a couple of times a day, but i haven't seen much, and i know he has to return the phone in the next couple of days.
thanks
He will post when its ready. For now we wait patiently while the master works ;-)
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i was just curious if krylon has made any progress with CWM for the SGS4G? the last i read was that is was working on getting it to flash from the SD. i check his twitter a couple of times a day, but i haven't seen much, and i know he has to return the phone in the next couple of days.
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I assume that twitter is your best bet for updates.
I just got a reply on Twitter from Krylon. he will try to get the CWM fix by the weekend. our good friend started his new job this week..
Just a friendly remember of the forum rules... don't ask devs for a time frame. All this work is done freelance and for free, so make sure you donate to show your support
Wait so is this the new "be patient" thread that was closed?
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I just got a reply on Twitter from Krylon. he will try to get the CWM fix by the weekend. our good friend started his new job this week..
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Yes, congrats krylon on the new job although youve been getting paid to stay home. \m/
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Wait so is this the new "be patient" thread that was closed?
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Yeah why did you start a new thread on the same subject that was closed by a mod.
You already check his Twitter account and he updates that before he updates here so just keep an eye on his Twitter.
The was such an un-nesseary wayste of energy, that I got excited over for nothing.
Can this please be deleted. Krylon has been very willing to communicate on twitter.
Asking about the progress of work is NOT the same as asking for an ETA. GIVE THE GUY A BREAK... take a chill pill people...
and the "be patient" thread was also not the same as this topic... the "be patient" thread was posted by an individual saying that he had made plans to send his device so that krylon could start to work on it.
please people you need to stop scaring people off at every corner of this forum... its not constructive at all.
to the OP... the most current info does in fact get tweeted by krylon @krylon360. as far as it looks it should be working by this weekend according to his latest tweets, so I would say the progress is in its later stages.
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Asking about the progress of work is NOT the same as asking for an ETA. GIVE THE GUY A BREAK... take a chill pill people...
and the "be patient" thread was also not the same as this topic... the "be patient" thread was posted by an individual saying that he had made plans to send his device so that krylon could start to work on it.
please people you need to stop scaring people off at every corner of this forum... its not constructive at all.
to the OP... the most current info does in fact get tweeted by krylon @krylon360. as far as it looks it should be working by this weekend according to his latest tweets, so I would say the progress is in its later stages.
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Even though this topic isn't Titled the same. It's essentially doing the same thing. Which is to find out the progress or status of CWM. The OP already stated that he checks Krylon's Twitter daily if not more. Krylon said he won't be able to work on it till this weekend since he started a new job and all. Hopefully he'll be able to get the ROM to flash over with it. No promises are made of course and I'm not asking him to rush at all.
I know he'll be getting his G2X very soon but I hope that doesn't hinder the progress of CWM getting fixed.
wow. i didn't want this thread to get carried away like the other one. i just assumed other people on the boards talk to him outside of this forum. i dont have a twitter, but i have been viewing his twitter page to see whats up. i haven't seen much on there for the last couple of days, so i was just seeing if anybody new anything besides what we can find on the forum. i'm not asking for an ETA, I understand that theses devs do this for free / fun. i was just curious to what road blocks he might have been hitting. hell, i don't even have a sgs4g, my brother does. i've just been keeping an eye on the situation so i can crack his phone open for him once it's here, and welcome him to the world of custom rom goodness. i didn't mean any harm with the thread. if it deserves to be closed, then so be it.
anyhow, congrats to krylon for the new job, hope it works out for you. i didn't mean any disrespect / rudeness with this thread.
I don't feel that this was a malicious thread and definitely not demanding.
People are just curious, thats all, and some people just can't hold it any longer before they create a thread. I know the thought crossed my mind a few times, but he is all we have, I can't keep asking, we are all at his mercy, so grab some popcorn and find something else to occupy your time to take your mind off of this. The more you want it, the longer you feel you are waiting for it.
/wordtothewise
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I don't feel that this was a malicious thread and definitely not demanding.
People are just curious, thats all, and some people just can't hold it any longer before they create a thread. I know the thought crossed my mind a few times, but he is all we have, I can't keep asking, we are all at his mercy, so grab some popcorn and find something else to occupy your time to take your mind off of this. The more you want it, the longer you feel you are waiting for it.
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agreed. good solid thread, though shouldnt b in dev section. im starting to get sick of everyone being a asshole around here like they got something to prove. i f u dont have something beneficial to post then just keep it moving
Well you know what today is 420 a day that has a lot of things to celebrate like national pot day or Hitler's birthday ... lol ... or the release of the G2x. With that said krylon maybe moved on to that dual core goodness but hinder by a bad screen ...
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relax guys. all this constant flaming is the reason why devs leave. i understand that its "fun" to **** on someone's posts or whatever, but i don't wanna see this forum turn into what the vibrant forum has become. just take it easy, enjoy the holiday, and spread some android love
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Well you know what today is 420 a day that has a lot of things to celebrate like national pot day or Hitler's birthday ... lol ... or the release of the G2x. With that said krylon maybe moved on to that dual core goodness but hinder by a bad screen ...
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Discussion about the g2x is the reason why the last topic was closed.
If people want a thread where they can vent out their anxiety for CWM,i suggest not going offtopic into discussions about other phones and the like.
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I was not the only one that mentioned the G2x... Plus I was just joking and mentioning thing that are related to today 04/20/2011... so to come down on me I see that as of topic
PS krylon himself on twitter said he was going to get the G2x...
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G2X has CWM already. WOW. Gotta be patient!
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The was such an un-nesseary wayste of energy, that I got excited over for nothing.
Can this please be deleted. Krylon has been very willing to communicate on twitter.
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I want to publicaly apologize for throwing the flames. I think we are all a little over anxious and would probably agree that this has been a little interesting to say the least. Krylon is Awesome, but I just wonder where everyone else is at. I have never seen a phone go this long mind you it's only my fourth rootable. But none the less sorry about going off
So I logged on to see what activity had occurred during the day while I was out... and gingeritis is GONE!!! Anyone know where it went to? Did someone piss Chingy off? I need a case of Gingeritis...
Brought to to you by Charmin Ultra...
Mounting your girl...
I mean your drive...
Someone was too lazy to read, flashed his ROM, it wiped his data like its supposed to, and he decided to go off on Chingy so, Chingy bounced.
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Once again the moron that doesn't read ruins it for everyone else.
gingeritis can still be found at themikmik.com
Oh my hell... what a complete moron... Just lovely.
People like that have no business rooting their phones.
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Someone was too lazy to read, flashed his ROM, it wiped his data like its supposed to, and he decided to go off on Chingy
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SEIZE HIM!!!
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you can find all of chingys work here guys plus many more of our teams roms and mods....
http://themikmik.com/forums/viewforum.php?f=271&sid=e9c50b1707b8dc36ef1abd3945d6b186
yet people say iphone users are immature...
not here...
That sucks how 1 person ruins everything
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Nothing has been ruined, instead of clicking on the link in the thread that would be posted here, which would take you to his forum, where you would click through another 6 different sub-forums, then find the thread just to get the download link.
Now all you do is just go to his site, instead of clicking on the link that would be in the thread here. He didn't stop developing the rom, he just stopped posting the change log here... OH NO WHAT WILL WEZ DOZ NOW?!?!?
He left, it's done and over with, how about people grow up and stop acting like it's the end of the world. If he had just said "I'm only going to post on my site because I choose to do so" everyone would be calling him an ass. But because someone "made him leave " everyone wants to flame someone who expressed an opinion...
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Nothing has been ruined, instead of clicking on the link in the thread that would be posted here, which would take you to his forum, where you would click through another 6 different sub-forums, then find the thread just to get the download link.
Now all you do is just go to his site, instead of clicking on the link that would be in the thread here. He didn't stop developing the rom, he just stopped posting the change log here... OH NO WHAT WILL WEZ DOZ NOW?!?!?
He left, it's done and over with, how about people grow up and stop acting like it's the end of the world. If he had just said "I'm only going to post on my site because I choose to do so" everyone would be calling him an ass. But because someone "made him leave " everyone wants to flame someone who expressed an opinion...
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Dude, stfu. No one in this thread acted like it was the end of the world. Quit acting like a douche.
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Someone was too lazy to read, flashed his ROM, it wiped his data like its supposed to, and he decided to go off on Chingy so, Chingy bounced.
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To be fair, it never said on the OP that the ROM would fully wipe, only that it was recommended, that's a big difference. Chingy and the people involved are all immature.
I was trying to decide which ROM to run, BAMF 3.0 or Gingeritis 3D, but Chingy decided for me.
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Some may agree some may not but the net is no place for thin skin. It takes little effort to be a keyboard Rambo. In my profession hate is everywhere and when the net was young and AOL 2600 was fast I to was there and little if anything has changed. Many forum have a ban or ignore button to remove users from a thread. I very often use it. (Don't know if xda does or not never needed to look). Many also have mods that stay on top of the threads and remove rif-RAF at will but even then people get upset and argue freespeech. Maybe this dev left cause he was tired of needing to police his thread or maybe other behind the black veil **** was going on and this event was just the last straw for him. But being a old fart Ive hard believing 1 troll ran him him off if in fact it was a normal 'poor me' blah-blah troll. Wipe or no wipe to be fair I've not seen 1 roms listed with out a disclaimer stating that said owner is responsible for said actions of owners phone and I know for fact this dev roms thread stated the same. The fact we all have to be thick skined doesn't mean that anyone has the right to flame and talk **** at will. Also I personally feel the disclaimer works both ways. This means to me that a dev or company or any entity which produces a product must accept that not all are going to always love said product and after all if a hot tub manufacturer must display a warning that if entered you may drown then why should a dev her at xda think that said downloaders are any smarter? No one that gets in a hot tub is that dumb that includes parents allowing kids around said tub unattended. The fact is if any of us produce or even give away anything then we accept that someone is gonna ***** about. If we can't handle that then we do need to take our product else where. However if any person finds this unknown land if milk and honey where all is good and as efficient as Al Gores Jock strap then please post said location here and count me in. Hell I'll even pay to move in.
For any noob that made it this far threw this post of diatribe and potential net manners that don't exist anywhere then your a brave soul so read this slowly. You are responsible for your phone and what you install. Wipe everytime even if not told to do so. If a problem does happen then post and ask for help. But know that someone may flame yer ass when you do. Is it right? No. But it may happen. After all what can said flamed do to you? Nothing really. However if you do allow said flamer to contaminate your pixels with meaningless bits of useless data and thus cause you to respond (much Luke this very post) then the said flamer has in fact won. Many here loved this devs work and while xda didn't make the dev it did help make the dev known and by default his work this means we all owe xda not the other way around. POSTING ones work here is not a right but a privilage leaving xda does hurt us all but it may just may hurt the dev just a wee bit more because of the message it sends to others. Then again maybe I myself am out of line for this view. I'm sure if I am then I'll be told so PDQ.
Peace...
cool story bro
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Nothing has been ruined, instead of clicking on the link in the thread that would be posted here, which would take you to his forum, where you would click through another 6 different sub-forums, then find the thread just to get the download link.
Now all you do is just go to his site, instead of clicking on the link that would be in the thread here. He didn't stop developing the rom, he just stopped posting the change log here... OH NO WHAT WILL WEZ DOZ NOW?!?!?
He left, it's done and over with, how about people grow up and stop acting like it's the end of the world. If he had just said "I'm only going to post on my site because I choose to do so" everyone would be calling him an ass. But because someone "made him leave " everyone wants to flame someone who expressed an opinion...
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It's that time of the month for u huh?
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To be fair, it never said on the OP that the ROM would fully wipe, only that it was recommended, that's a big difference. Chingy and the people involved are all immature.
I was trying to decide which ROM to run, BAMF 3.0 or Gingeritis 3D, but Chingy decided for me.
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Read it carefully. Your another one who did not read it. He stated it on a change log one of the version.
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Read it carefully. Your another one who did not read it. He stated it on a change log one of the version.
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Regardless, that was what the arguement consisted of. Not many people in that thread showed much class.
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Chingy made an awesome rom. To bad some a-hole had to piss him off. He's had some bomb ass roms and radio leaks. He will be missed on the XDA for sure.
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Chingy made an awesome rom. To bad some a-hole had to piss him off. He's had some bomb ass roms and radio leaks. He will be missed on the XDA for sure.
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so its ok for a dev to be an a-hole because he makes cool roms???
Not saying that was the situation here, but its happened before.
No doubt, I've only read that a user flashed a rom and got upset because he didn't fully relize/understand the ramifications of the new flash. Chingy didn't seem like an a-hole or diva to me but i didn't investigate his background too much. I just think it sucks to loose a good Dev regardless.
I need to make an apology. Another dev had to do this earlier and now it is my turn.
He was right. We are all a bit angry at people who are posting unnecessary things, but that is no excuse to be rude. I still maintain that this forum has one of the best communities, and I will not let anyone tell me otherwise. I started on this forum in april of this year. That is 4 months ago. Look what I have accomplished. I am nowhere near the level of some of our other devs, but I am so much better than I was then. I WAS a N00B. I was that person with a million questions.
I remember the first time I soft bricked. It was late at night and all of a sudden that beautiful boot animation that I just realized cold be changed started repeating itself after I tried to flash an update to scv5. I panicked. I opened up the lifehacker article on unbricking, posted a new thread with a stupid question, and I started to realize I had no money to buy a new phone. Bottom line is it was the end of the world for me.
But, thanks to all the wonderful people here, i got it fixed. My heartbeat was probably 200 while the fxz flashed, but I got it done
I now bootloop every other day practically. restoring is no problem. ICS was a whole different story, but that is not for here. That is when I had my first hardbrick. but once again thanks to the help of others I am now on scv7 with some mods to it.
To all of you who have posted stupid unnecessary things, and yes there are many I am sorry. as the Moderator Moscow Desire said in a PM after me posting a rude response that lead to me writing this "n00bs will always be at XDA. This is a fact of life. Yes, they post stupid things sometimes, and yes, they will always NEVER do a search or read other posts. It's always been like this. And yes, it gets frustrating at times."
We know you are out their. and we can try to stop it, but there will be people who do dumb things. But that is not an excuse for any of us to be rude to them. Those of us who are more knowledgeable about dev stuff should be helping those who aren't. My mom always told me in school that there will always be bosses you hate just like your teachers, and coworkers you hate st like your classmates, so you might as well learn to get along with them. She was right. we just need to get along. For us devs there is an IRC channel, and believe me we talk about this stuff, but we all get along well. so for the rest of us t needs to be the same.
Let me start this by saying i am still a N00B, saying that Initially i was also annoyed with all those questions people were asking.. i myself started a new thread trying to clear few basic questions.. but as the time went by realised that the senior community was more harsh than anything else.. the more we teach the more we learn thats what say in my part of the world.. but i believe all is well, all that is needed is that you guys get into serious ICS development once the OTA arrives.. and <3 you guys..
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I need to make an apology. Another dev had to do this earlier and now it is my turn.
He was right. We are all a bit angry at people who are posting unnecessary things, but that is no excuse to be rude. I still maintain that this forum has one of the best communities, and I will not let anyone tell me otherwise. I started on this forum in april of this year. That is 4 months ago. Look what I have accomplished. I am nowhere near the level of some of our other devs, but I am so much better than I was then. I WAS a N00B. I was that person with a million questions.
I remember the first time I soft bricked. It was late at night and all of a sudden that beautiful boot animation that I just realized cold be changed started repeating itself after I tried to flash an update to scv5. I panicked. I opened up the lifehacker article on unbricking, posted a new thread with a stupid question, and I started to realize I had no money to buy a new phone. Bottom line is it was the end of the world for me.
But, thanks to all the wonderful people here, i got it fixed. My heartbeat was probably 200 while the fxz flashed, but I got it done
I now bootloop every other day practically. restoring is no problem. ICS was a whole different story, but that is not for here. That is when I had my first hardbrick. but once again thanks to the help of others I am now on scv7 with some mods to it.
To all of you who have posted stupid unnecessary things, and yes there are many I am sorry. as the Moderator Moscow Desire said in a PM after me posting a rude response that lead to me writing this "n00bs will always be at XDA. This is a fact of life. Yes, they post stupid things sometimes, and yes, they will always NEVER do a search or read other posts. It's always been like this. And yes, it gets frustrating at times."
We know you are out their. and we can try to stop it, but there will be people who do dumb things. But that is not an excuse for any of us to be rude to them. Those of us who are more knowledgeable about dev stuff should be helping those who aren't. My mom always told me in school that there will always be bosses you hate just like your teachers, and coworkers you hate st like your classmates, so you might as well learn to get along with them. She was right. we just need to get along. For us devs there is an IRC channel, and believe me we talk about this stuff, but we all get along well. so for the rest of us t needs to be the same.
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I guess one just has to realise that there are ppl here with different tech capacities. So knowledgeable ppl like u and the other magnificent devs should have a little more patience with us , the eternal the omni present n00bs... u guys are doing a great job !! keep it up!!! We ask stupid questions coz we are scared that the beloved fone will brick...we want to be 10 times sure that flashing will not render it useless...but still we do it ..coz everybody loves a kick!!!! I guess.. my take on this....
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I guess one just has to realise that there are ppl here with different tech capacities. So knowledgeable ppl like u and the other magnificent devs should have a little more patience with us , the eternal the omni present n00bs... u guys are doing a great job !! keep it up!!! We ask stupid questions coz we are scared that the beloved fone will brick...we want to be 10 times sure that flashing will not render it useless...but still we do it ..coz everybody loves a kick!!!! I guess.. my take on this....
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Yeah, but on the other side of the coin, if you are on XDA that means you are looking to experiment, you want to try new things, you need a fast and functional ROM or that mod you like so much or simply want to root it and then there are few who are here just to learn.
But for all this you gotta have few attributes
1. Guts
2. Little knowledge
3. Able to go through few threads before starting anything
4. And last but most important, knowing where the search button is.
This still a n00b saying this, dont get me wrong. I am here to learn, i am getting into it slowly but surely. Thanks to the devs.
Ps: this post os taken better in lighter vein!!!
Speak only when it improves on your silence.
I think it is a huge deal to see a post like this. Kudos to you, Ikrasner! You have been much help to everyone, along with the rest of the devs. Thank you all for your time!
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I guess one just has to realise that there are ppl here with different tech capacities. So knowledgeable ppl like u and the other magnificent devs should have a little more patience with us , the eternal the omni present n00bs... u guys are doing a great job !! keep it up!!! We ask stupid questions coz we are scared that the beloved fone will brick...we want to be 10 times sure that flashing will not render it useless...but still we do it ..coz everybody loves a kick!!!! I guess.. my take on this....
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Well it is really not patients that is the problem that we are all having at the moment. It is the fact that everyone now seems to think they are the ONLY one with a certain problem with x, and rather than posting in the thread that deals with x they make a new thread, and then when you ask why they did not search it is always "I searched, and none of the threads deal with MY exact issue".
The issue with this is that is shows a lack of respect for everyone in here, that might be working on an issue, and that person just bumped another thread that might have that or a similar issue in it, and now everyone is reading that new glowing orange thread on the board.
The next issue is that people have to trust us.
Next, it seems we have a new rash of noobs that don't want to listen and then still post a new thread when their issues is not solved in another thread and then keep bumping that thread if no one replies.
Again these are all thing that show alot of issues and lack of respect to your dev team, we are here to help, but the more you guys all help us, the more we can help you.
P.S. I had to post this same thread a few weeks back, because of all the frustrations as well.... see a pattern here.
I know what you mean, its like you cant even blink in this forum, without starting a witch hunt.
I just joined XDA not long ago and I too have noticed a lot of pointless threads. I admit I did post a stupid question before, but I found the answer myself and went back and changed my question. But I did not go and make a new thread about it. I think the issue is A. people are lazy in general, and B. There is so much to try and wrap your head around, and no one wants to brick their device. I only have 1 device and I would love to try experimenting with different ROMs and things, because I am constantly wanting a new phone. I have had the A2 for about 9 months now and I am bored with it. But I have that fear of bricking it and then I am screwed. So for now I will continue to search through different threads and try to learn as much as I possible can before I jump in and try flashing ROMs. I notice some people just try flashing ROMs without really any knowledge then post new threads with the issues that they have. If they would just take the time to read through threads prior to jumping in there would be less of this issue. I just want to Thank all the Devs here that put so much time into all the work they do here!! Definitely the best mobile dev community out there!!
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I have had the A2 for about 9 months now and I am bored with it.
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dude i had the same ROM for 9 months before, without a single wipe, and i never got close to bored, the hw buttons messed up so i had to sell. your phone isnt your game console or gf ... its a phone, no offense
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dude i had the same ROM for 9 months before, without a single wipe, and i never got close to bored, the hw buttons messed up so i had to sell. your phone isnt your game console or gf ... its a phone, no offense
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What are you talking about! i make love to my phone all the time.
some people use there phone for more stuff then others. nothing is wrong with that.
I have no idea what section I'm in or what you're apologizing for, but I love you too man.
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What are you talking about! i make love to my phone all the time.
some people use there phone for more stuff then others. nothing is wrong with that.
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TMI, me thinks.
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TMI, me thinks.
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FYI that was a joke. but i do hook my phone to my tv and use it as a game console with my PS3 controller
rdhoggattjr said:
FYI that was a joke. but i do hook my phone to my tv and use it as a game console with my PS3 controller
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I know, it was amusing. But the fact that you're feeling the urge for clarification makes me second guess that was a "joke". (I'm kidding)
That's what we need more of here, people with a sense of humor. I applaud you for that, hopefully the lighthearted approach will carry through with the other "business class" folk.
I sit in the back of the bus, that one being driven straight to hell, if you know what I mean...
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What are you talking about! i make love to my phone all the time.
some people use there phone for more stuff then others. nothing is wrong with that.
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im not gonna lie me myself often sleep next to/on it but damn...
maybe if it was a sgs3
hello everyone As some of you must have already read that Moto is closing down in asia-pacific and so in india, I was thinking to sell of my A2.I'm not really sure but thoughts are coming in my mind.So what I want to ask here is that is there any development and breakthrough on good front going on ? (I'm sure something or other might be surely brewing up amongst devs) but still is it that exciting, If yes i would hold of my A2 and wont sell it off (If i am getting some good ROM) or atleast a progress on it (don't get me wrong here i m not pushing anyone).
Just wanted to ask coz, if there is no future regarding development I might think to sell A2 before the prices drop even more.
regards,
peace.
PS : I know the secrecy so if someone wants to reply but doesn't think its right to post in here coz Moto might see it, can drop me a PM
u've just ignited the FIRE !
jst wait n watch
shardul.phatak said:
u've just ignited the FIRE !
jst wait n watch
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Hope i don't get flamed for this
Nothing is guaranteed...you're not going to get any assurances about anything here. Go ahead and do what you have to.
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Nothing is guaranteed...you're not going to get any assurances about anything here. Go ahead and do what you have to.
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I already know that nothing is guranteed but looking at situation one can atleast judge what is up in store.Right now that dev section is kinda stagnant and devs are upto something in secret and that is absolutely fine considering what moto has done in past.So a small heads up would always be welcomed.
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hello everyone As some of you must have already read that Moto is closing down in asia-pacific and so in india, I was thinking to sell of my A2.I'm not really sure but thoughts are coming in my mind.So what I want to ask here is that is there any development and breakthrough on good front going on ? (I'm sure something or other might be surely brewing up amongst devs) but still is it that exciting, If yes i would hold of my A2 and wont sell it off (If i am getting some good ROM) or atleast a progress on it (don't get me wrong here i m not pushing anyone).
Just wanted to ask coz, if there is no future regarding development I might think to sell A2 before the prices drop even more.
regards,
peace.
PS : I know the secrecy so if someone wants to reply but doesn't think its right to post in here coz Moto might see it, can drop me a PM
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Really? How long have you been here? To pose the question as to if there may be no 'exciting' advances being made on the development front is rather insulting. I can say that I myself have worked 'behind the scenes' and these guys are ALWAYS working on things. How "exciting" they may be is purely based on your own perception. If there was any indication of having no future of development, don't you think these guys would have moved on half a year ago from this phone? Also, I don't see as to why Motorola shutting down to some capacity in India would have any bearing on whether to sell your Atrix 2 or to keep it. Not sure if this is "forum fishing", but hold onto your pole... you're going to get some bites.
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Not sure if this is "forum fishing", but hold onto your pole... you're going to get some bites.
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HA! Love the word play there.
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Really? How long have you been here? To pose the question as to if there may be no 'exciting' advances being made on the development front is rather insulting. I can say that I myself have worked 'behind the scenes' and these guys are ALWAYS working on things. How "exciting" they may be is purely based on your own perception. If there was any indication of having no future of development, don't you think these guys would have moved on half a year ago from this phone? Also, I don't see as to why Motorola shutting down to some capacity in India would have any bearing on whether to sell your Atrix 2 or to keep it. Not sure if this is "forum fishing", but hold onto your pole... you're going to get some bites.
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Well then i really can't help if people interpret or decide to interpret thing in wrong way.I think its perfectly fine to ask.Coz neither am I pushing anyone/anything nor I'm discrediting anyone.
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Well then i really can't help if people interpret or decide to interpret thing in wrong way.I think its perfectly fine to ask.Coz neither am I pushing anyone/anything nor I'm discrediting anyone.
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You missed my point here, I'm afraid. I posed a question in retort to your own, pointing out all of the 'breakthroughs' that have been made in almost a year, and more specifically here lately. No, the dev team hasn't bought tickets to "Margaritaville" and will not be kicking up their heels after ordering two pina coladas- they are always on the job, and always testing. If you'd like to pass your Atrix 2 on, for whatever reason, then I wish you the best. Impatience has always run amok here in this forum, and more so recently. Be it due to Motorola or otherwise, it's rather unnecessary. I'd suggest waiting before you pull the trigger on a sale of your Atrix 2, with the abilities we are fortunate enough to benefit from by our devs, this is why I opted to hold onto mine after purchasing the SGS3. But, as LaVar Burton used to say, "You don't have to take MY word for it"...
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You missed my point here, I'm afraid. I posed a question in retort to your own, pointing out all of the 'breakthroughs' that have been made in almost a year, and more specifically here lately. No, the dev team has bought tickets to "Margaritaville" and will not be kicking up their heels after ordering two pina coladas- they are always on the job, and always testing. If you'd like to pass your Atrix 2 on, for whatever reason, then I wish you the best. Impatience has always run amok here in this forum, and more so recently. Be it due to Motorola or otherwise, it's rather unnecessary. I'd suggest waiting before you pull the trigger on a sale of your Atrix 2, with the abilities we are fortunate enough to benefit from by our devs, this is why I opted to hold onto mine after purchasing the SGS3. But, as LaVar Burton used to say, "You don't have to take MY word for it"...
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For one I'm not being impatient.Impatient would be "hey you dev wats taking you so long i want new ROM" < This is impatient and arrogant. I never said anything like this,It was just a humble question.If you as a kid as some questions to your elder coz they know more does that count as being arrogant,impatient and rude ? I guess no.I asked very humbly as they know much much more than me.And again for the breakthrough as I said earlier yet repeating for nth time i am grateful to them and did not discredit or deny that fact.They have done much awesome work and changed the A2's scene.But for once just get in my shoes and try to think,and again if someone interprets this as disrespecting devs i really cant help coz i didn't.
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For one I'm not being impatient.Impatient would be "hey you dev wats taking you so long i want new ROM" < This is impatient and arrogant. I never said anything like this,It was just a humble question.If you as a kid as some questions to your elder coz they know more does that count as being arrogant,impatient and rude ? I guess no.I asked very humbly as they know much much more than me.And again for the breakthrough as I said earlier yet repeating for nth time i am grateful to them and did not discredit or deny that fact.They have done much awesome work and changed the A2's scene.But for once just get in my shoes and try to think,and again if someone interprets this as disrespecting devs i really cant help coz i didn't.
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You're right my friend, but the atmosphere and the people being what they are around this forum, you were always going to be flamed. I'd warned you.
In any case, there's not much anybody is going to be able to tell you. Things are uncertain and they take time...you know what I mean.
I wonder why anybody can't understand that Motorola leaving India does have a bearing on whether you want to keep your phone. I perfectly understand.
Anyway, long story short, on this forum, if you ask a question - you're spamming, if you don't know something - you're an idiot, if you you have a different opinion - you're being aggressive.
Pay no heed. Relax. Enjoy life
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You're right my friend, but the atmosphere and the people being what they are around this forum, you were always going to be flamed. I'd warned you.
In any case, there's not much anybody is going to be able to tell you. Things are uncertain and they take time...you know what I mean.
I wonder why anybody can't understand that Motorola leaving India does have a bearing on whether you want to keep your phone. I perfectly understand.
Anyway, long story short, on this forum, if you ask a question - you're spamming, if you don't know something - you're an idiot, if you you have a different opinion - you're being aggressive.
Pay no heed. Relax. Enjoy life
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So true.very well said bro.
athani said:
You're right my friend, but the atmosphere and the people being what they are around this forum, you were always going to be flamed. I'd warned you.
In any case, there's not much anybody is going to be able to tell you. Things are uncertain and they take time...you know what I mean.
I wonder why anybody can't understand that Motorola leaving India does have a bearing on whether you want to keep your phone. I perfectly understand.
Anyway, long story short, on this forum, if you ask a question - you're spamming, if you don't know something - you're an idiot, if you you have a different opinion - you're being aggressive.
Pay no heed. Relax. Enjoy life
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Lol! If you think my comments were "flaming", you ain't seen flaming yet. I'm not answering for the devs here, but exchanging with the OP my own rebuttal. I'll allow any dev here the opportunity to address the question. Perhaps you shouldn't be so sensitive, athani. Just a suggestion...
Edit: I really wasn't trying to be a jerk, but when someone - anyone - makes a post, they should expect to have it open for discussion. That's all I was engaging in.
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Lol! If you think my comments were "flaming", you ain't seen flaming yet. I'm not answering for the devs here, but exchanging with the OP my own rebuttal. I'll allow any dev here the opportunity to address the question. Perhaps you shouldn't be so sensitive, athani. Just a suggestion...
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Sir, whatever made you think I was referring to your posts ! Relax
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Sir, whatever made you think I was talking about you! Relax.
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Oh, I'm good. Trust me, my blood pressure is still within normal range. I was just clarifying that my comments were not of a "flaming" nature. Now, if others flame the OP over this, I'd have to align myself with Archmag3, in that he's got every right to ask a question here. With every question should come answers, unfortunately and at times frequently they happen to be befouled with opinion.
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Oh, I'm good. Trust me, my blood pressure is still within normal range. I was just clarifying that my comments were not of a "flaming" nature. Now, if others flame the OP over this, I'd have to align myself with Archmag3, in that he's got every right to ask a question here. With every question should come answers, unfortunately and at times frequently they happen to be befouled with opinion.
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I never suggested that any particular persons comments were "flaming" in nature. So we're cool. BTW, "opinions" by themselves can never "befouled" or for that matter be true or untrue. That's something lots of people here don't understand. Hence, all the unpleasantness.
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I never suggested that any particular persons comments were "flaming" in nature. So we're cool. BTW, "opinions" by themselves can never "befouled" or for that matter be true or untrue. That's something lots of people here don't understand. Hence, all the unpleasantness.
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Let's not argue semantics here, I stated that "answers" can be befouled with opinion. That is quite categorical.
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Let's not argue semantics here, I stated that "answers" can he befouled with opinion. That is quite categorical.
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I wasn't arguing semantics. It's something that requires serious introspection among some guys here.
Just think like this..if moto is shutting down sales in india that means no one is ever goin to get a chance to own such an awesome phone like atrix 2..this phone is really awesome man..i am goin to hold on to my A2 (mine just two months old) till the last breath is out of my phone..and i would advice you to do the same..and service centres will work naa..so why worry??
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devilhunter47 said:
Just think like this..if moto is shutting down sales in india that means no one is ever goin to get a chance to own such an awesome phone like atrix 2..this phone is really awesome man..i am goin to hold on to my A2 (mine just two months old) till the last breath is out of my phone..and i would advice you to do the same..and service centres will work naa..so why worry??
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I think the resale value will be adversely affected because of real or perceived lack of after sales support.
About chance to own a Motorola phone, I think that is less of a consideration as these days, everything is available on ebay India.