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Is there a fresh news about Raptorz WM5.0 saga?
I think for this time this mythical ROM can be transfered by speed 1byte/hour. So...
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Oooh, fellas.
I have a WM5.0 on my Magician (friend of my friend brother, that working in HTC flash it), but i live in a small village. There is no internet, so i can't upload it. There is no post office like a DHL/FedEx/UPS... And i want to tell you more - there is no electricity and cellular providers... But i REALY HAVE IT!
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For god's sake, get over it. If it comes, great. If not, tough. What was the point to your post? Why would you bother writing this when the main thread was locked and there's another one still going?
MODS!! DELETE ME!!!! PLEASE!! (I mean this topic, not me totally!)
I just want to know - is there news.
It has been bad joke or a new hope? It's all.
I'm WAITING for WM5.0 ROM like you.
Great quote.
For all of the stfu ppl, this is a forum, remember?!
Let people talk!
If AlexXF thought it would be a relevant question to him to ask for the rom, he can ask it. If you don't like the topic, don't reply to it.
It would die if you don't.
I think one can ask whatever question he likes as long as he/she does not offend anyone else on this board.
And after 2 weeks, if asked politely, I don't see anything wrong in asking for an update. People ask so many stupid questions on other stuff, what's the surprise if someone asks for progress on such a HUGE thing?
And jimmy-bish, couldn't you just ignore such threads if they don't interest you? I found AlexF's post more interesting than yours!
Should I just ask the mods to delete your threads if they are of no use or interest to me then? Visit other forums and you'll find these type of discussions on daily basis? Does this have that, will we have this upgrade, etc? There's no "police" shutting their mouths up.
Everybody on this forum is ASKING for the ROM.
None is OFFERING the Rom.
So, if you don't have anything to OFFER than please stop ASKING.
This will be showing you have at least a bit of respect for the people that are working trying to do something to satisfy YOUR laziness not to provide this ROM to the community.
Hope is dying but then, hope of course, is nothing to do with whether Raptor has the ROM or not. But all the same, after arranging a pickup and such like, it appears Buzz has not been getting any further contact from Raptor (see Buzz' website: buzzdev). So either the project is dead in the water (i.e. it never really existed), or Raptor has been unable to get in touch due to whatever reason. It could be one or the other.
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Everybody on this forum is ASKING for the ROM.
None is OFFERING the Rom.
So, if you don't have anything to OFFER than please stop ASKING.
This will be showing you have at least a bit of respect for the people that are working trying to do something to satisfy YOUR laziness not to provide this ROM to the community.
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SOMEONE OFFERED THE ROM AND PEOPLE ARE JUST ASKING IF THIS OFFER CAN STILL BE HONOURED.
TALKING ABOUT LAZINESS, IF I WAS LAZY I WOULDN'T BE POSTING LENGHTY POSTS TRYING TO HELP PEOPLE WITH VARIOUS PROBLEMS THAT I THINK I COULD HELP THEM WITH.
AND WHENEVER I DO SOMETHING FOR MYSELF (EG ANIMATED CONTACT PICS, THEMES, ETC.) I'M THE FIRST ONE TO COME AND POST THEM HERE. SO IF YOU WERE REFERRING TO ME WHEN YOU USED THE WORD LAZY, KINDLY APOLOGISE.
AND TO THE PEOPLE WHO JUST VISIT THE FORUM TO SEE IF THEY CAN GET SOMETHING BUT NEVER GIVE ANYTHING ... GO FIND YOURSELVES A WINDOWS MOBILE DOWNGRADE AND LEAVE US ALONE!!!!
(Aplogies to everyone else who had to read my crap but comments like this infuriate me!)
I'm a bit more calm now ...
@unlockme, aren't you the same guy who called Gora (the guy who gave Himlaya users the WM5 ROM) a lamer?
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Minotavrs you're right, this is just bull****.
If you lookup the first screenshot, it reports 24.38MB of memory, hence obviously a smartphone.
Then, this guy shows picture of an himalaya device (by the way the picture on the wooden desktop is taken from a web site that has a review on XDA II). On these picture, it reports 128MB (normal size for a XDA II).
on my XDA II when I go the Settings / System / About it reports 125.86MB.
Don't loose your time giving credit to this lamer.
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If you owned a Himalya, I bet you made good use of the ROM!
we all know originally there is no WM2005 ROM for Magician. so i hate to know that and i hate peoples who are saying they have WM2005 ROM for Magician and run away with no ****ing any news about their activities...
after wasting long time to wait for it... i will not Download it or Flash my Magician even if it out after my post coz there will come soon alot of cool Phones with WM2005 and more better than Magician.... so guys save your time and go sell your Magicians to get newer one... NOT BUGGY one like XDA II WM2005
this is the life don't loose it
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we all know originally there is no WM2005 ROM for Magician. so i hate to know that and i hate peoples who are saying they have WM2005 ROM for Magician and run away with no ****ing any news about their activities...
after wasting long time to wait for it... i will not Download it or Flash my Magician even if it out after my post coz there will come soon alot of cool Phones with WM2005 and more better than Magician.... so guys save your time and go sell your Magicians to get newer one... NOT BUGGY one like XDA II WM2005
this is the life don't loose it
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CHILL!
cool thread 8) at least now theres a dedicated thread for complains rather than filling up the previous ones which keeps the updates as well 8) i hate it when i see the thread abt news i'm eager at sets itself to "update" and find out the update is nothing but complain, seriously
::adit
Hello all!
I’ve been reading all posts regarding this “famous” WM5 Magician ROM and has so, I’ve decided to post a small (made up) story about this situation. I hope you like it
The High Skilled liar
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Letter from a unemployed guy:
Dear Sirs,
I’ve noticed that you’re looking for someone high skilled with a PhD, for a position has a Technical Director / CTO on your company. Has so, i’ve taken the liberty of sending you my resumé which i think, fulfils your requirements.
Best regards,
B.
Response letter from company YXZ
Dear Sir,
Thank you for your excellent resumé. We are very interested on meeting you and as so, we would like to have a small meeting on next Wednesday. Please don’t forget to bring along your PhD sealed certification.
Best regards,
A.
Response Letter from a unemployed guy:
Dear Sir,
Unfortunately I’ve lost my PhD sealed certification. But i’m free to meet up with you on Wednesday.
Best regards,
B.
Response letter from company YXZ
Dear Sir,
I’m afraid that we really need to see your original sealed PhD certification, since this position is of great importance. Since your resumé has exactly what we are looking for, we are willing to wait a few days for you, while you get your new copy of the original PhD diploma from your university ABC.
Best regards,
A.
Response Letter from a unemployed guy:
Dear Sirs,
Unfortunately, my wife got sick and requires 24hs attention during this month. She has injured her spine and I can’t leave her alone for too long. And has so, i don’t have time for getting a new certificate due to that. So if you’re willing to accept my candidacy without the PhD, I might have a few minutes to meet you up.
Best regards,
B.
Response letter from company YXZ
Dear Sir,
I understand your situation but our company has a strict policy about contracting persons that are proven to be certified. Since your resumé caused a great impression on us, we decided to contact the University ABC that you have pointed, so to figure out a way of solving this situation. Unfortunately we couldn’t get any response about your diploma (no one knew you). We also have obtained the information that you can request it by phone, and that it will be mailed to your home. We will continue to wait for you a few days more.
P.S.: We hope that your wife is feeling better.
Best regards,
A.
Response Letter from a unemployed guy:
Dear Sirs,
Thank you for your caring. I have had another situation…I’ve contacted my university but they can’t find my certificate anywhere. I’m sorry but I can’t send it to you. Besides, my car has broken and it’s hard to go meet you since there’s no easy transportation to your company. Has so, I’m must decline this proposal. Thank you for your time.
Regards,
B.
Response letter from company YXZ
Dear Sir,
Has our last offer, we are willing to meet with you at your university, if you can spare a few minutes ( btw, we hope that your wife is feeling better now) where we will sort out this situation. We just need a proof that you have a PhD, and we will accept you for the CTO position. Please, just name the day and time and we will meet there.
Regards,
A
..Needless to say, that company YXZ never got a response.
Cheers
Keeper: AMAZING!
Ehehehe. Best regards I'm still LOL for the great analogy.
Let's now keep talking about the injured woman now. That's all that matter.
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we all know originally there is no WM2005 ROM for Magician. so i hate to know that and i hate peoples who are saying they have WM2005 ROM for Magician and run away with no ****ing any news about their activities...
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This is exactly the point why some of us are ****i'n mad.
If I was the one that came here and post "hey, I have wm5" I was commiting myself to give you some news. If I don't want to give news in the first place, I would talk directly to Buzz, as he was the guy that had the skills and the respect from the community. I think this is common sense: if you dont want to reply to questions, why the heck are you opening a topic to lauch doubt and uncertain?! Don't post it. Do something with your software that is productive, instead of talking to us, comunity.
If you really have the rom, the comunity would be better served if you STFU and send the rom to buzz in the first place (without even posting about it).
I'm now waiting here for the next raptor show up, when he will bash us because of our ingratitude, and how painfull this quest is getting to him.
If ur imagination is true, so, u will never see Raptor again, and most probably, he is surfing our forum now under a new name and reads ur posts with great fun and laughing. Now, we need Colombo (the detective) to follow the new members that joined the forum since the disappearence of raptorz and investigates all their posts, way of wriring and IPs and comparing it with that of raptors to discover his new name and give him a great kik outside the forum.
Anyway, thank u raports, u gave us some fun and brain storming and opend our imaginations.
N.B. Another senario that if were right i will feel too shame, is that raptor is now resting in a bed in a hospital somewhere in london under a salping to support his spine and cannot move by any way to write to us.
kta said:
And jimmy-bish, couldn't you just ignore such threads if they don't interest you? I found AlexF's post more interesting than yours!
... Visit other forums and you'll find these type of discussions on daily basis? Does this have that, will we have this upgrade, etc? There's no "police" shutting their mouths up.
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Funny, I've visited and am a member of many other forums and in each of them, the members seem to be smart enough to wait patiently for an answer. Have a read through the thread, if there's no news, move on. I am also a moderator of one of the forums, and I haven't had to delete a single post about this subject as there aren't as many clowns who keep asking.
AND... one of your so called "police" happens to be Buzz, who locked the first WM5 thread as he got sick of the flaming! Fine job that did as all the clowns just created new threads. Doesn't that tell you something?
Yeah.
We are the ones to blame, the bad guys.
The person who came here and say "hey, I have wm5 on my magician" but never give us back answers or the actual rom and was always giving us different excuses (hey, people that have kids have time for them, and people with serious injury would not take the effort to came to the internet to not give us nothing) and responding on another forums (this one blows the "maybe raptor is in hopsital and don't have internet there stuff) and refused to upload via ftp because he already has a meet with raptor messenger (he didn't give the address, so what meet was it?!) is the person that deserve respect, care, and the title of the good guy.
You already knew what was this topic about. It's title is a forbidden question. If you people were smart, you should notice it is not a pleasent topic to you guys. Why the heck you keep reading a thing you don't want too? Move along, read the other topics. Let the bashers bash. It is only ONE topic. People are not taking a lot of space on xda-dev database.
Remember: you cannot control other people from posting, but you can control you so yourself can abstain from reading this post.
Why don't you do a "how's raptor health" topic? I think that would interest most of the users on the forum, so... this topic would die because of no replies.
People are constantly bashing things: broken firmwares, no support, HTC! Why can't we bash, or doubt, or whatever we want, if we discuss with correctness and without violence?
Funny thing is: people still think we don't see a wm5 rom because of the raptors injury. Maybe he is dead... He couldn't even upload a 25mb file, but he still keeped saying he was taking a huge effort to get us the file. Why didn't he upload just the first bytes of the rom?! With ftp, if he tried, at least buzz would get that info (well, if their crappy bt connection could send 416bytes on one connection... but maybe it would hang). Think this: will you still use gsm when this magic rom travel from raptor pocket to buzz? Guess not.
PS: remember that the censored guy told raptor the rom was an update to jam users, from club-imate? were on club-imate do you see the rom?
-> I keep waiting for raptor to came here and bash us ranters. he will say: "i'm sorry for being injured and for have a 3mth old kid, and you are all ungratefull". been there, saw that.
well, i think we are watching a DRAMA Movie which its title is:
"Pathetic Raptor's life and WM2005"
if i can get this WM2005 ROM i will not post any **** until i make sure that i can put my hands on it
to Raptor's People "Don't post any **** before you clean it" :x
Best regards for guys who are still waiting... :wink:
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You already knew what was this topic about. It's title is a forbidden question. If you people were smart, you should notice it is not a pleasent topic to you guys. Why the heck you keep reading a thing you don't want too? Move along, read the other topics.
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Oh how boring would that be, just looking up information for my Jam, seeking help, giving help in return... blah blah blah.....
Simple fact, I love these flame wars. I really don't have an opinion either way on the whole Raptorz thing, but I'm having a really good chuckle while stirring people up! I suppose it's an Australian thing.. we all enjoy taking the piss! :lol:
And there's nothing wrong with a healthy debate... I'll let you get up on your high horse, and then I'll shoot it! :lol: :lol:
Keeper, amazing! LOL! Copied to my LJ. Thanks for a good joke.
NightmarE, you so right!
I think, there is a another way to upgrade - sell Magician and buy Atom or another new phone with WM5.0 and WiFi. It will be better.
For me personal, i'll be waiting for WM5.0 before Christmass, than just upgrade the phone
Im having a problem.. my keyboard is being realllyyy slow.. i can finish typing a whole sentence of 10 words and it will only be on the second word and loading the rest. Im using Dutty's newest rom.. any way to fix this?
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Im having a problem.. my keyboard is being realllyyy slow.. i can finish typing a whole sentence of 10 words and it will only be on the second word and loading the rest. Im using Dutty's newest rom.. any way to fix this?
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You didn't read the first couple of posts in the Dutty thread. You didn't post this in the thread on that ROM...which is where this belongs. You didn't read the Wiki page on Dutty's ROMs and you didn't search the thread for the answer. Now you have forced me into it. I have to go kick a bunch of puppies. I have to shave a few kittens and throw them in that big pool of water. And it's all because you didn't do any of these things that follow forum etiquette and would have answered your question because it's been addressed many dozens of times before. I cannot take the blame for the punishment of those cute furry animals. This is all because of your post. All you had to do was check the wiki to see that you need to install the Disable XT9 cab file to fix this. But no...you wanted me to punish the puppies and kittens.
Edit: I would also refer you to the link in the Alex quote in my sig...Please watch that before you start another new thread. kthxbai
your right i didnt read the first few posts... i have read the Wiki... i did search his thread.. and i DO have that installed and im still having this problem
Then the next thing to try from the discussions that have been had on this would be to change your autocomplete settings to suggest fewer words or turn autocomplete off depending on your preference. In the future, however, please keep questions related to a specific ROM in that ROM's thread. You will get help faster that way and you won't get smacked about with a large trout whilst being flamed.
alrighttt ill move it over to there sorryy
jarek91 said:
Then the next thing to try from the discussions that have been had on this would be to change your autocomplete settings to suggest fewer words or turn autocomplete off depending on your preference. In the future, however, please keep questions related to a specific ROM in that ROM's thread. You will get help faster that way and you won't get smacked about with a large trout whilst being flamed.
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dude.. u got way to much time on ur hand, i suggest. get out of da closet and find some friends dat will have more in common with u den just what "rom" is coolest...
aight then.. peace.
p.s
noone realy gives bout yo kittens homes,
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dude.. u got way to much time on ur hand, i suggest. get out of da closet and find some friends dat will have more in common with u den just what "rom" is coolest...
aight then.. peace.
p.s
noone realy gives bout yo kittens homes,
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Firstly, please learn how to type coherently. Secondly, your post has nothing to do with this thread and offers nothing useful to this thread. Thirdly, personal attacks are not wanted or needed and are, in fact, in poor taste and show that you have a high level of immaturity. Fourthly, nothing in my reply had anything to do with what "rom" is coolest. Fifthly, you obviously missed the point of humor in the reply.
And for the record, typing things like "dat" and "den" and using phrases including both "yo" and "homes" only makes you look like a 12 year old attempting and failing at looking hip and cool. Please spare us all the pain of watching you contort yourself in such a way that you are actually able to wear your buttocks as a hat.
kthxbai
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your right i didnt read the first few posts... i have read the Wiki... i did search his thread.. and i DO have that installed and im still having this problem
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did u power off, then on your device after installing the disable xt9 cab?
jarek91 said:
Firstly, please learn how to type coherently. Secondly, your post has nothing to do with this thread and offers nothing useful to this thread. Thirdly, personal attacks are not wanted or needed and are, in fact, in poor taste and show that you have a high level of immaturity. Fourthly, nothing in my reply had anything to do with what "rom" is coolest. Fifthly, you obviously missed the point of humor in the reply.
And for the record, typing things like "dat" and "den" and using phrases including both "yo" and "homes" only makes you look like a 12 year old attempting and failing at looking hip and cool. Please spare us all the pain of watching you contort yourself in such a way that you are actually able to wear your buttocks as a hat.
kthxbai
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hehe... well point taken. i aint 12 but prity much at da same level of maturity.
and stil think u got way too much time on ur hands...
btw. its o.k to not to search or ask questions. its not such a horid thing to miss a thread or 2...big deal. if u wanna turch somone cuz they ask...means u got way to much time on your hand and well quite frankly its not like ppl here do it left and right..ease off..doesnt buy you points in no one book dat you turchin noobs jus cuz u can...
now instead of turning this argument into somthing dat will waste more time on both sides,, i just say take it on a good note. ur funny and have great vocabulary and great sharp answers , im just saying sercazem isnt allways da way...
cheers mate...ps..heared fabreeze is a cool way to keep ur closet refreshed...
jk ease off buddy
Find a different sandbox
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hehe... well point taken. i aint 12 but prity much at da same level of maturity.
and stil think u got way too much time on ur hands...
btw. its o.k to not to search or ask questions. its not such a horid thing to miss a thread or 2...big deal. if u wanna turch somone cuz they ask...means u got way to much time on your hand and well quite frankly its not like ppl here do it left and right..ease off..doesnt buy you points in no one book dat you turchin noobs jus cuz u can...
now instead of turning this argument into somthing dat will waste more time on both sides,, i just say take it on a good note. ur funny and have great vocabulary and great sharp answers , im just saying sercazem isnt allways da way...
cheers mate...ps..heared fabreeze is a cool way to keep ur closet refreshed...
jk ease off buddy
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I agree with jarek091, and wonder WTH you are trying to accomplish here - you are not contributing anything useful, and your incredibly poor 'grammar / street talk / whatever the hell it is' is incredibly annoying. By your own admission you have a maturity level of 12, so why don't you go find a forum where that is appropriate, like maybe MySpace?
xda-developers.com is for serious people who are thoughtful and reasonable, and attempt to fit in with their manner and grammar.
"We have serious problems to solve, and we need serious people to solve them. And whatever your particular problem is, I promise you, Bob Rumson is not the least bit interested in solving it. He is interested in two things and two things only: making you afraid of it and telling you who's to blame for it" --The American President
Nothing productive left to say here.
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Mike
I realize this isn't the most correct place to post this, but apparently, everyone should read this.
I've been involved with the xda modding community for over 4 years. When I came to xda-devs, the iphone didn't exist. Android didn't exist. WebOS didn't exist. If you wanted a "smart phone" your choices were PalmOS, Pocket PC, and a few Symbian based offerings. It's quite possible that the expense and, for lack of a better word, elitism that went with these smart phones meant that "commoners" weren't using them. Especially, they weren't modding them.
In those days, devs were respected. There certainly wasn't this big entitlement feeling that every tom, ****, and harry feel they are owed today. This site was started and grew based on people wanting to develop for these phones. We wanted them to do more. For the most part, if you didn't have anything to contribute, you understood to stfu. Even more important, if you saw a need, you worked to fill it. Many of the guys that started this community STARTED learning because of it. Sure, you'll have questions. Questions are good. The flaming of each other, the putting down of other sites, and the general dickery needs to stop.
It's sad that I look at xda with disdain these days. XDA has gone from a site that I spent most of my day on, and worked to assist where I could, to a necessary evil because I own an HTC device.
I'm thankful to all of the Android devs for their work in rooting so many phones. Thank you HTC for making a phone that works so well, I'm not completely sure I need or want to root it. Thank you XDA for providing a location where we can COLLABORATE.
To all of you kids (either by age or maturity) look up the definition of collaborate, patience, and "common decency"). Please stop being rude, and or demanding... anything. We don't need 30 extra posts to tell us "I'm Not Happy about X" or "User Y is a dork". It's useless. Put it on your myspace page, people may care there.
And to the elitists, don't knock people for thinking of an idea that someone else already tried. At least they are thinking. At least they are trying. And hopefully, they'll learn and take on the next challenge in your stead.
XC
Here-here!
Appreciation > Ego
This place is no different than any other forum, really. People are dicks everywhere.
I feel you pain, this place used to be a comminty of people all over the world, that were here to help. And we all shared one commen goal, to make our phones the best they could be. It really does sadden me to see what has happend. No body is owed anthing. and for some reson everyone feels like they are.
You used to be able to asked a question without getting flamed to death, people and devs would help you with any problem you had, and now..... its just ridiculous the way people are acting. Its not just here, its on all the android forums that i have seen. so dont think that its just here.
To everyone that has helped make this site the best, thank you. And to the rest of you, please leave go somwere else, your kind is not welcome here.
heavensblade23 said:
This place is no different than any other forum, really. People are dicks everywhere.
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Sad but true =/ I'm relatively new to xda, but I was really surprised about recent events, I never really expected something like that to happen on XDA.
heavensblade23 said:
This place is no different than any other forum, really. People are dicks everywhere.
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+1
It happens on all forums, you will have fighting and issues and assholes appearing. Just got to deal with it, thats what moderators are for.
heavensblade23 said:
This place is no different than any other forum, really. People are dicks everywhere.
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You have a choice to make things worse or better. I can see what your choice is.
anubis_dragoon said:
Sad but true =/ I'm relatively new to xda, but I was really surprised about recent events, I never really expected something like that to happen on XDA.
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What happened? Someone reported something that was untrue? Or a bunch of people got excited about a sketchy report of root/a mod. That has happened a bunch on XDA. Stick around and it'll happen a bunch more. People make mistakes, hello! We had several overclocking threads that were false starts in G1/Dream. Guess what? People kept trying and eventually, it got done. The people who were *****ing, however, just produced more *****ing--and my my phone does not install non-market *****ing
Ummm...but why is this thread in the development thread?
rynosaur said:
You have a choice to make things worse or better. I can see what your choice is.
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I'm not saying it's okay to act like a ****, I'm saying it's largely a lost cause. I got sick of people acting like dicks on another, general-purpose, forum, so I left to try to find some place where people were civil. I gave up when I saw someone on an Android banned for rageposting over cell phone batteries.
steb0ne said:
Ummm...but why is this thread in the development thread?
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It's here because everyone, in every area, needs to read it and take it to heart.
steb0ne said:
Ummm...but why is this thread in the development thread?
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Simply because this is where XDA lost face in the eyes of many yesterday. Its not just the sites fault though. Members had a lot to do with it. I'm sure because yesterday was a holiday is the reason it took some time for the Mods to get a handle on things.
I give thanks to the OP for posting here.
Thank you XDA!!!
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Ummm...but why is this thread in the development thread?
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xcsdm said:
I realize this isn't the most correct place to post this, but apparently, everyone should read this.
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I think it is very important to understand where xda came from. This site began with people that not only helped us mod our phones, but were willing to teach us to mod our phones. That way, when the next phone came out, you had more people working to mod the phone.
I put this in a developer thread because development is a large driving force behind xda.
XC
People need to learn to just report a thread instead of fighting over what's posted in it. Mods will help sort things out I'm sure. We all need to just work together on making this site better and learn from the mistakes of others. The Incredible's development will get better in time its a fairly new device if you think about it. IMO its very nice stock. Keep up the great work Devs and for those who don't dev do your part in making this site a place for ppl to want to come to share and learn.
xcsdm said:
I realize this isn't the most correct place to post this, but apparently, everyone should read this.
I've been involved with the xda modding community for over 4 years. When ...
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Although I have not really posted here much, I have been around since the Palm Treo 650 days (loved that damn phone btw) and have always had a deep sense of respect for all the developers here who dedicate their time and efforts to making a smartphone more powerful and more useful outside the stock features. Being a member of the iPhone community for so long, I have had no reason to come to these forums for quite a while so I've been out of the loop. Now that I own a droid incredible, I was led back here by a simple "how-to-root your android" Google search. Since that time, I have seen a lot of commotion about the Incredible.
I am not and never will be able to develop, write code, or become a linux genius. I have been a linux admin for years, but never had a need or want to go into development. That being said, I have always respected those who have the ability to develop software, apps, images, etc.
I think the main problem on these forums now, is too many kids and too many people who expect something to be handed to them rather than be grateful for what they are given. Then again, that's pretty much anywhere you go in the world. The only thing we can do as a community is choose how we respond to these situations. Like adults....
Thanks.
--Matt--
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Sadly, I'm seeing these types of issues everywhere. The last 4-5 years has really created a new generation of people that think they can get away with saying whatever they want online. Think of it as the Myspace gen, if you will.
It's painful to say it, but honestly... it's not going to get any better.
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Sadly, I'm seeing these types of issues everywhere. The last 4-5 years has really created a new generation of people that think they can get away with saying whatever they want online, and get away with it. Think of it as the Myspace gen, if you will.
It's painful to say it, but honestly... it's not going to get any better.
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Generation T, as in toilet trained below the waist only. Their mouths seem to run constantly, and not even their spell checkers have been opened . . .
It's easy to bash wee tykes. Been happening since antiquity. Hard to root an Incredible, tho. We just need somebody to get a reman unit that still has a testing bootloader installed!
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....For the most part, if you didn't have anything to contribute, you understood to stfu. Even more important, if you saw a need, you worked to fill it. Many of the guys that started this community STARTED learning because of it. Sure, you'll have questions. Questions are good.
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Exactly right... And I'm one of those who kept my mouth shut as I read and learned here, respecting those who put forth the info that helped me...
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....The flaming of each other, the putting down of other sites, and the general dickery needs to stop.
It's sad that I look at xda with disdain these days. XDA has gone from a site that I spent most of my day on, and worked to assist where I could, to a necessary evil because I own an HTC device.
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I can say the same about Hofo (on which I go by a different name..)
I started there, reading, absorbing, learning.. To pay it back, I started helping others when/where I could. I eventually started a collection of instructions, and writing up info I digested to make it easier for new people to just dive in and learn to do it themselves. I even met (in person) someone I met on hofo, and we worked to create a set of repeatable processes to flash moto phones with non-VZW firmware.
I saw it go from a great site to learn, to a place you're going to get flamed, called names, disrespected, etc... Thankfully, the birth of my son took me away from my cell phone hacking and Hofo just at the right time.
As I visit this, hofo and other sites, I can't help but think they are all becoming the same... a bunch of people who feel entitled to have this or that NOW and if they don't get it, they gripe up a storm about it, call people names, etc..
Its sad.
Is it really getting that bad? I haven't signed into this site since my old PPC6700 days, so I haven't taken a look at the Entitled Generation posts, but I'll be sure to keep an eye out.
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Although I have not really posted here much, I have been around since the Palm Treo 650 days (loved that damn phone btw) and have always had a deep sense of respect for all the developers here who dedicate their time and efforts to making a smartphone more powerful and more useful outside the stock features. Being a member of the iPhone community for so long, I have had no reason to come to these forums for quite a while so I've been out of the loop. Now that I own a droid incredible, I was led back here by a simple "how-to-root your android" Google search. Since that time, I have seen a lot of commotion about the Incredible.
I am not and never will be able to develop, write code, or become a linux genius. I have been a linux admin for years, but never had a need or want to go into development. That being said, I have always respected those who have the ability to develop software, apps, images, etc.
I think the main problem on these forums now, is too many kids and too many people who expect something to be handed to them rather than be grateful for what they are given. Then again, that's pretty much anywhere you go in the world. The only thing we can do as a community is choose how we respond to these situations. Like adults....
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AMEN ! NOOBs need to read and research more rather than demanding everything be handed to them.
I think this thread is a bit dramatic. "What happened to XDA?" Well, nothing really. There's just a huge influx of new people who know just enough to be dangerous and really want root (and look at the average post count, mine is low enough but every other person I see discussing this has less than 20 posts). The Incredible is one of if not THE hot phone on the market, so I'm not surprised it's like a circus in here. Due to recent events that I will not dare mention, It's like the scene in Caddyshack when they let all the caddys swim in the pool and run all the "members" off. And over the weekend someone took a dump in the pool and caused mayhem/panic...
If the mods would get more strict - short temp bans for people who are very rude, and maybe also for people who can't stay on subject or at least delete the off subject posts, and get rid of all the "why is my battery life bad" threads then the Dev section may improve. Perhaps make a rule that says you can't post in this section unless you have a certain number of posts? I don't know. It was just a bad weekend. It will get back to normal.
I need to make an apology. Another dev had to do this earlier and now it is my turn.
He was right. We are all a bit angry at people who are posting unnecessary things, but that is no excuse to be rude. I still maintain that this forum has one of the best communities, and I will not let anyone tell me otherwise. I started on this forum in april of this year. That is 4 months ago. Look what I have accomplished. I am nowhere near the level of some of our other devs, but I am so much better than I was then. I WAS a N00B. I was that person with a million questions.
I remember the first time I soft bricked. It was late at night and all of a sudden that beautiful boot animation that I just realized cold be changed started repeating itself after I tried to flash an update to scv5. I panicked. I opened up the lifehacker article on unbricking, posted a new thread with a stupid question, and I started to realize I had no money to buy a new phone. Bottom line is it was the end of the world for me.
But, thanks to all the wonderful people here, i got it fixed. My heartbeat was probably 200 while the fxz flashed, but I got it done
I now bootloop every other day practically. restoring is no problem. ICS was a whole different story, but that is not for here. That is when I had my first hardbrick. but once again thanks to the help of others I am now on scv7 with some mods to it.
To all of you who have posted stupid unnecessary things, and yes there are many I am sorry. as the Moderator Moscow Desire said in a PM after me posting a rude response that lead to me writing this "n00bs will always be at XDA. This is a fact of life. Yes, they post stupid things sometimes, and yes, they will always NEVER do a search or read other posts. It's always been like this. And yes, it gets frustrating at times."
We know you are out their. and we can try to stop it, but there will be people who do dumb things. But that is not an excuse for any of us to be rude to them. Those of us who are more knowledgeable about dev stuff should be helping those who aren't. My mom always told me in school that there will always be bosses you hate just like your teachers, and coworkers you hate st like your classmates, so you might as well learn to get along with them. She was right. we just need to get along. For us devs there is an IRC channel, and believe me we talk about this stuff, but we all get along well. so for the rest of us t needs to be the same.
Let me start this by saying i am still a N00B, saying that Initially i was also annoyed with all those questions people were asking.. i myself started a new thread trying to clear few basic questions.. but as the time went by realised that the senior community was more harsh than anything else.. the more we teach the more we learn thats what say in my part of the world.. but i believe all is well, all that is needed is that you guys get into serious ICS development once the OTA arrives.. and <3 you guys..
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I need to make an apology. Another dev had to do this earlier and now it is my turn.
He was right. We are all a bit angry at people who are posting unnecessary things, but that is no excuse to be rude. I still maintain that this forum has one of the best communities, and I will not let anyone tell me otherwise. I started on this forum in april of this year. That is 4 months ago. Look what I have accomplished. I am nowhere near the level of some of our other devs, but I am so much better than I was then. I WAS a N00B. I was that person with a million questions.
I remember the first time I soft bricked. It was late at night and all of a sudden that beautiful boot animation that I just realized cold be changed started repeating itself after I tried to flash an update to scv5. I panicked. I opened up the lifehacker article on unbricking, posted a new thread with a stupid question, and I started to realize I had no money to buy a new phone. Bottom line is it was the end of the world for me.
But, thanks to all the wonderful people here, i got it fixed. My heartbeat was probably 200 while the fxz flashed, but I got it done
I now bootloop every other day practically. restoring is no problem. ICS was a whole different story, but that is not for here. That is when I had my first hardbrick. but once again thanks to the help of others I am now on scv7 with some mods to it.
To all of you who have posted stupid unnecessary things, and yes there are many I am sorry. as the Moderator Moscow Desire said in a PM after me posting a rude response that lead to me writing this "n00bs will always be at XDA. This is a fact of life. Yes, they post stupid things sometimes, and yes, they will always NEVER do a search or read other posts. It's always been like this. And yes, it gets frustrating at times."
We know you are out their. and we can try to stop it, but there will be people who do dumb things. But that is not an excuse for any of us to be rude to them. Those of us who are more knowledgeable about dev stuff should be helping those who aren't. My mom always told me in school that there will always be bosses you hate just like your teachers, and coworkers you hate st like your classmates, so you might as well learn to get along with them. She was right. we just need to get along. For us devs there is an IRC channel, and believe me we talk about this stuff, but we all get along well. so for the rest of us t needs to be the same.
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I guess one just has to realise that there are ppl here with different tech capacities. So knowledgeable ppl like u and the other magnificent devs should have a little more patience with us , the eternal the omni present n00bs... u guys are doing a great job !! keep it up!!! We ask stupid questions coz we are scared that the beloved fone will brick...we want to be 10 times sure that flashing will not render it useless...but still we do it ..coz everybody loves a kick!!!! I guess.. my take on this....
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I guess one just has to realise that there are ppl here with different tech capacities. So knowledgeable ppl like u and the other magnificent devs should have a little more patience with us , the eternal the omni present n00bs... u guys are doing a great job !! keep it up!!! We ask stupid questions coz we are scared that the beloved fone will brick...we want to be 10 times sure that flashing will not render it useless...but still we do it ..coz everybody loves a kick!!!! I guess.. my take on this....
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Yeah, but on the other side of the coin, if you are on XDA that means you are looking to experiment, you want to try new things, you need a fast and functional ROM or that mod you like so much or simply want to root it and then there are few who are here just to learn.
But for all this you gotta have few attributes
1. Guts
2. Little knowledge
3. Able to go through few threads before starting anything
4. And last but most important, knowing where the search button is.
This still a n00b saying this, dont get me wrong. I am here to learn, i am getting into it slowly but surely. Thanks to the devs.
Ps: this post os taken better in lighter vein!!!
Speak only when it improves on your silence.
I think it is a huge deal to see a post like this. Kudos to you, Ikrasner! You have been much help to everyone, along with the rest of the devs. Thank you all for your time!
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I guess one just has to realise that there are ppl here with different tech capacities. So knowledgeable ppl like u and the other magnificent devs should have a little more patience with us , the eternal the omni present n00bs... u guys are doing a great job !! keep it up!!! We ask stupid questions coz we are scared that the beloved fone will brick...we want to be 10 times sure that flashing will not render it useless...but still we do it ..coz everybody loves a kick!!!! I guess.. my take on this....
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Well it is really not patients that is the problem that we are all having at the moment. It is the fact that everyone now seems to think they are the ONLY one with a certain problem with x, and rather than posting in the thread that deals with x they make a new thread, and then when you ask why they did not search it is always "I searched, and none of the threads deal with MY exact issue".
The issue with this is that is shows a lack of respect for everyone in here, that might be working on an issue, and that person just bumped another thread that might have that or a similar issue in it, and now everyone is reading that new glowing orange thread on the board.
The next issue is that people have to trust us.
Next, it seems we have a new rash of noobs that don't want to listen and then still post a new thread when their issues is not solved in another thread and then keep bumping that thread if no one replies.
Again these are all thing that show alot of issues and lack of respect to your dev team, we are here to help, but the more you guys all help us, the more we can help you.
P.S. I had to post this same thread a few weeks back, because of all the frustrations as well.... see a pattern here.
I know what you mean, its like you cant even blink in this forum, without starting a witch hunt.
I just joined XDA not long ago and I too have noticed a lot of pointless threads. I admit I did post a stupid question before, but I found the answer myself and went back and changed my question. But I did not go and make a new thread about it. I think the issue is A. people are lazy in general, and B. There is so much to try and wrap your head around, and no one wants to brick their device. I only have 1 device and I would love to try experimenting with different ROMs and things, because I am constantly wanting a new phone. I have had the A2 for about 9 months now and I am bored with it. But I have that fear of bricking it and then I am screwed. So for now I will continue to search through different threads and try to learn as much as I possible can before I jump in and try flashing ROMs. I notice some people just try flashing ROMs without really any knowledge then post new threads with the issues that they have. If they would just take the time to read through threads prior to jumping in there would be less of this issue. I just want to Thank all the Devs here that put so much time into all the work they do here!! Definitely the best mobile dev community out there!!
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I have had the A2 for about 9 months now and I am bored with it.
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dude i had the same ROM for 9 months before, without a single wipe, and i never got close to bored, the hw buttons messed up so i had to sell. your phone isnt your game console or gf ... its a phone, no offense
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dude i had the same ROM for 9 months before, without a single wipe, and i never got close to bored, the hw buttons messed up so i had to sell. your phone isnt your game console or gf ... its a phone, no offense
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What are you talking about! i make love to my phone all the time.
some people use there phone for more stuff then others. nothing is wrong with that.
I have no idea what section I'm in or what you're apologizing for, but I love you too man.
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What are you talking about! i make love to my phone all the time.
some people use there phone for more stuff then others. nothing is wrong with that.
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TMI, me thinks.
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TMI, me thinks.
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FYI that was a joke. but i do hook my phone to my tv and use it as a game console with my PS3 controller
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FYI that was a joke. but i do hook my phone to my tv and use it as a game console with my PS3 controller
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I know, it was amusing. But the fact that you're feeling the urge for clarification makes me second guess that was a "joke". (I'm kidding)
That's what we need more of here, people with a sense of humor. I applaud you for that, hopefully the lighthearted approach will carry through with the other "business class" folk.
I sit in the back of the bus, that one being driven straight to hell, if you know what I mean...
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What are you talking about! i make love to my phone all the time.
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im not gonna lie me myself often sleep next to/on it but damn...
maybe if it was a sgs3
Okay, so i've managed to create a rooted rom that I was happy to do. I stayed up all night and up until now figuring out what i had to do. I need just one more thing, A EFFIN' CONVERTER OR A REPACKER THAT WORKS!!! okay so i opened my system.img using sgs2ext4 and edited what i had to so that things can work. Ive been mainly up because i cant find a re-packer that actually works for windows. i know most are gonna say linux,but, i did that with a live image boot and it was painful as hell. looooonnnnnnng boot up, system lags and freezes, and im on a macbook with bootcamp windows and a small ssd. I just need something for windows to do what i need done. ive tried so many within the past 7 hours. much appreciation for anyone who may help.
And please if you are gonna be a smart a$$ and reply idiotically over typos, irrelevant answers,etc... please dont bother.
i am doing this for myself and the community to contribute something that since rev2 has hit our device, only one other has been doing for us, partcyborg. he deserves a break and so here i am.
thank you
repacker
https://forum.xda-developers.com/general/general/tool-auto-tool-unpack-repack-rom-t3278393/page2 have you tried this one?
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Thanks ijoxer It's almost complete and I will test out Rom before release. Thanks
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Okay, so i've managed to create a rooted rom that I was happy to do. I stayed up all night and up until now figuring out what i had to do. I need just one more thing, A EFFIN' CONVERTER OR A REPACKER THAT WORKS!!! okay so i opened my system.img using sgs2ext4 and edited what i had to so that things can work. Ive been mainly up because i cant find a re-packer that actually works for windows. i know most are gonna say linux,but, i did that with a live image boot and it was painful as hell. looooonnnnnnng boot up, system lags and freezes, and im on a macbook with bootcamp windows and a small ssd. I just need something for windows to do what i need done. ive tried so many within the past 7 hours. much appreciation for anyone who may help.
And please if you are gonna be a smart a$$ and reply idiotically over typos, irrelevant answers,etc... please dont bother.
i am doing this for myself and the community to contribute something that since rev2 has hit our device, only one other has been doing for us, partcyborg. he deserves a break and so here i am.
thank you
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Listen man, I'm not a mod so feel free to tell me to go kick rocks, but I'm just gonna lay it out for you. I think I can speak for everyone when I say, you don't always have to be so confrontational with your post, and it seems to be every single one of them (take a look through and tell me it isn't to the point of ridiculous). Nobody here is out to get you, and I know XDA isn't as user friendly as it once was, but the majority og users here will be grateful for any and all contributions, because it's what we're here for, to find and test custom projects that we can freely tweak and mod ourselves. You're almost always going to have at least one smartass taking a jab at you, thats life, and you have to learn to roll with the punches instead of making it a big deal. How you worded your post is far more likely to attract asshole comments (and this isn't meant to be one either) than any other, simply because you're making yourself an easy target for those looking to stir some **** up. You basically held up a sign that said, "I dare you to piss me off, just go ahead and try" and you know damn well someone will.
All that aside, I'm excited to see what you've come up with, I've been anxious to do something custom myself, mainly for personal use (unless it seems stable and different enough to release). I am genuinly thankful to have someone else trying to put up some development for our device, as it's been lacking now with all the consistent updates (@Jrkruse, I'm looking at you) So, shoot me a pm when you release it, or quote me if you don't mind, and please don't take any of that personally, just don't want to see another flame war start flooding your thread before you even get anything released. Just ignore the haters, and I used to be a grammar Nazi myself, but honestly, don't pay attention to those making fun for incorrect grammar, English isn't a lot of peoples first language anymore, and even for those it is, we've all had those moments.
Take care man, hope the development is coming along smooth for you! :good:
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Listen man, I'm not a mod so feel free to tell me to go kick rocks, but I'm just gonna lay it out for you. I think I can speak for everyone when I say, you don't always have to be so confrontational with your post, and it seems to be every single one of them (take a look through and tell me it isn't to the point of ridiculous). Nobody here is out to get you, and I know XDA isn't as user friendly as it once was, but the majority og users here will be grateful for any and all contributions, because it's what we're here for, to find and test custom projects that we can freely tweak and mod ourselves. You're almost always going to have at least one smartass taking a jab at you, thats life, and you have to learn to roll with the punches instead of making it a big deal. How you worded your post is far more likely to attract asshole comments (and this isn't meant to be one either) than any other, simply because you're making yourself an easy target for those looking to stir some **** up. You basically held up a sign that said, "I dare you to piss me off, just go ahead and try" and you know damn well someone will.
All that aside, I'm excited to see what you've come up with, I've been anxious to do something custom myself, mainly for personal use (unless it seems stable and different enough to release). I am genuinly thankful to have someone else trying to put up some development for our device, as it's been lacking now with all the consistent updates (@Jrkruse, I'm looking at you) So, shoot me a pm when you release it, or quote me if you don't mind, and please don't take any of that personally, just don't want to see another flame war start flooding your thread before you even get anything released. Just ignore the haters, and I used to be a grammar Nazi myself, but honestly, don't pay attention to those making fun for incorrect grammar, English isn't a lot of peoples first language anymore, and even for those it is, we've all had those moments.
Take care man, hope the development is coming along smooth for you! :good:
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Haha yeah man no offense taken..... I was just about to edit the post because I found DD and it's about time. Of course I post combat mode haha. It's not exact my right and like I said, I was just about to edit it.
So I'm building the blocks for my ext4 and hopefully soon it will be ready. Partcyborg has been helping me a bunch lately, so much appreciation and credit goes to him. I'm just trying to create a stable rom that's rooted. Hopefully once I get this one down, I can get something else in the works. I have and idea that will probably lighten me up a bit more haha. I apologize ONCE AGAIN. Haha. Yeah most times I'm in that mode,but, when it goes off, no one wants to bother me cause really I am asshole. Don mean to troll or troll my own threads. You had me laughing as soon as I read the post though. Stay tuned and hopefully soon more to come if I can get this damn thing correct.
Word of advice guys, no sleep, computer vision all night= one frumpy son of a ......
Sleep early, stay off your computer= happy guy.
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Haha yeah man no offense taken..... I was just about to edit the post because I found DD and it's about time. Of course I post combat mode haha. It's not exact my right and like I said, I was just about to edit it.
So I'm building the blocks for my ext4 and hopefully soon it will be ready. Partcyborg has been helping me a bunch lately, so much appreciation and credit goes to him. I'm just trying to create a stable rom that's rooted. Hopefully once I get this one down, I can get something else in the works. I have and idea that will probably lighten me up a bit more haha. I apologize ONCE AGAIN. Haha. Yeah most times I'm in that mode,but, when it goes off, no one wants to bother me cause really I am asshole. Don mean to troll or troll my own threads. You had me laughing as soon as I read the post though. Stay tuned and hopefully soon more to come if I can get this damn thing correct.
Word of advice guys, no sleep, computer vision all night= one frumpy son of a ......
Sleep early, stay off your computer= happy guy.
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Well, glad it made you laugh, and definitely no need to apologize, I just know I can be an easy target when I'm in asshole mode myself. And like you, it'd probably be less frequent if I didn't stay up all night coding or reading, I'm on about 70 hrs straight right now (remember to get up frequently and get that blood moving fellow geek insomniacs ?), but hey, I'll sleep when I'm dead, because I'm here for a good time, not a long time.
But again, excited to see what ya came up with, and shout out to @partcyborg for being helpful and making his awesome roms, aaand getting v2 bootloaders running root, looks like we have a clear MVP for this device moving forward. I'll probably try getting in a few Zs, and then going to tinker with my N/O hybrid I just started phasing together.
Happy New Years ladies and gents, another night to to stay up and not even feel bad about it lol, maybe I can make some decent progress before the dreaded 9-5 is back to running my life. ???
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Haha yeah man no offense taken..... I was just about to edit the post because I found DD and it's about time. Of course I post combat mode haha. It's not exact my right and like I said, I was just about to edit it.
So I'm building the blocks for my ext4 and hopefully soon it will be ready. Partcyborg has been helping me a bunch lately, so much appreciation and credit goes to him. I'm just trying to create a stable rom that's rooted. Hopefully once I get this one down, I can get something else in the works. I have and idea that will probably lighten me up a bit more haha. I apologize ONCE AGAIN. Haha. Yeah most times I'm in that mode,but, when it goes off, no one wants to bother me cause really I am asshole. Don mean to troll or troll my own threads. You had me laughing as soon as I read the post though. Stay tuned and hopefully soon more to come if I can get this damn thing correct.
Word of advice guys, no sleep, computer vision all night= one frumpy son of a ......
Sleep early, stay off your computer= happy guy.
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Bro really? 70hours! Damn I'd be wigging out on everybody. Must be some good meth there buddy hahaha. 9-5? I lost my job cause I stayed up every night so far haha. Oh well, I just wanted to get something out before next week cause I won't be in front of anything that communicates with the world for a year or 2. Jail is where I'll get my sleep haha. Hopefully it doesn't go that way,but, if it does, Tuesday I won't be available and by the time I get out partcyborg will already have had this phone bootloader unlocked with Roms galore and probably will ha e moved to the n3xt best device haha. I just want a to contribute something before I leave,so, I kinda feel pressured. It's not anyone's business but I'm upfront and at least I tell the truth. So to be honest that's sort of f2f he reason why I been stressed lately and act like an asshole. At least one thing done positively, satisfaction in myself that I can say hey, even if it wasn't huge, I did my small part . Know what I mean? And yes I agree with Partcyborg being the MVP of this thread. He has been the only one to remain here and provide things for us when all others seemed to have abandoned us. Dude is extremely helpf and hasn't lost it on me yet for blowing the he'll out of his inbox haha. And yes jrkruse where you At? Hazmat where you At? Hazmat was the first on these s8+ threads I kept up with. He left after almost completing his of a update root, I finished it off and haven't seen him post or nothing ever since. The 3 greats in my eyes and onlyh one is still standing with us. Ok now I gotta figure out my block size and compile to ext4. I'm here typing a novel haha
well, dont know whats going on but when i build the blocks and count my linux freezes and does absolutely nothing. any pointers greatly appreciated
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well, dont know whats going on but when i build the blocks and count my linux freezes and does absolutely nothing. any pointers greatly appreciated
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I tried to pm you all day but xda says your account was deleted. I was stuck in travel hell for like 20h yesterday dealing with crap airlines at the holidays
Yea, great meth, but yours must be better with that short novel? ?
Now it says you've deleted your profile, tried messaging you back bud, sorry, had to get some sleep. Hope you don't go to jail, I couldn't do time myself, my anxiety would kill me.
Anyway, hope to see you back soon, and hopefully you made some progress.