Line Out possible? - HTC Sensation

I have a HTC Sensation 4G and have come to be a bit of an audiophile as of late. I was wondering if their was any possible way of using the USB port to get a more pure audio signal going to a portable amp when I am on the move.
Yea, I know the Beats crap exists, I just don't care for that, I want to be more in control of things and bypassing the DAC built into the phone would be ideal.

The only way is through a HDMI adapter that plugs into the USB port.
That outputs audio via the HDMI.

philje123 said:
The only way is through a HDMI adapter that plugs into the USB port.
That outputs audio via the HDMI.
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This may be the wrong forum to ask, but is their any way of getting the digital signal from the HDMI for purposes of portably separating the audio and using it for my own means through some form of USB or 3.5mm plug?

AFAIK, only way is through the 3.5 headphone jack.

I am new to the forum - so I can't post links. Go to amazon and search for 73H00305-00M (you can also go to the shop on htc and you will see this as an available accessory for your sensation)
... while it does not give you a digital out, it appears to give a line level out. This would at least allow you to use a separate headphone amp.
It also looks like this is good for a number of HTC products ... not just the sensation.

knightrider3000 said:
I am new to the forum - so I can't post links. Go to amazon and search for 73H00305-00M (you can also go to the shop on htc and you will see this as an available accessory for your sensation)
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so i did buy this just in case it would work ... definitely not the right cable to use as a line out. Not sure why shopamerica.htc.com listed this as accessory to the sensation ...

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[Q] Desire - Splitters, Y-Cables, 3 in 1 Adapters

Hi,
I've been looking around for something that will allow me to connect 3 separate inputs/outputs into my Desire:
microphone
speakers
charger
There seem to be a few DIY methods involving camcorder leads/ 4 pole jacks I can't be arsed with, but then I found these:
1. http://www.amazon.co.uk/HTC-Splitter-XV6850-Diamond-XV6950/dp/B001W49OKK
2. http://www.amazon.com/HTC-Multifunction-Adapter-T-Mobile-Shadow/dp/B001QD3MQE
3. http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B001RTM6KA
4. http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00195I3X6
1 and 2 look ideal but they don't mention compatibility with the desire
the otherz look as though they won't work with a microphone
has anyone already purchased any of these / do they work?
or can you recommend anything else that would work?
any help would be appreciated, thanks
I could be wrong but I'm fairly sure the Desire doesn't have any audio capability via the USB port.
tarmacsurfer said:
I could be wrong but I'm fairly sure the Desire doesn't have any audio capability via the USB port.
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that really sucks if you're right
tarmacsurfer said:
I could be wrong but I'm fairly sure the Desire doesn't have any audio capability via the USB port.
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Yes, that's true. Heard it from HTC Sweden. I think it sucks, when will we Android-users be able to buy cool audio docks?
#3 and #4 are mini usb, they wont even fit in your desire. #1 and #2 are too low quality to be sure.
i'm sure you could look for something to utilise your headphone jack so you have a separate microphone and headphone component plugged into a Y jack, and charging via usual means
You could butcher your hands free kit that came with the desire and use it for speaker/microphone.

[Q] S3 USB analog audio

I own a Galaxy S3 phone from Verizon, and I also own a 2012 Chevy Impala with the stock head unit. The head unit has a 3.5mm input jack in it, and I currently use a 3.5mm male to 3.5mm male cable to feed audio to my head unit from my phone's headphone jack. I was looking today through my box of cables, and I found this cable with a micro-USB plug on one end, and a full-size USB plug and a 3.5mm mini-jack plug on the other end. I do not know for the life of me where this cable originated; but I want to use this cable to charge my S3 and feed the head unit audio through the USB port on the bottom of my phone. (Technically the cable will be plugged into my car dock that I got with the phone.) I have a 12v to USB converter in my car already (because the car's alternator causes huge audio interference with the Verizon charger I have) and the cable works to charge the device, but no audio comes to the head unit. Is there a way to force the S3 to pipe audio through the USB port in a similar way as it does with the official desk dock?
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Don't know but I just bought one of these to try after reading about it:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Car-AUX-Audio-Output-Cable-USB-Charger-Cable-Sam-sung-S3-i9300-i9220-i9100-/111002137997
schneid said:
Don't know but I just bought one of these to try after reading about it:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Car-AUX-Audio-Output-Cable-USB-Charger-Cable-Sam-sung-S3-i9300-i9220-i9100-/111002137997
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Just grabbed one as well, feels like I replace the headphone cable pretty often, should've gotten a bluetooth deck.. what was I thinking.
schneid said:
Don't know but I just bought one of these to try after reading about it:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Car-AUX-Audio-Output-Cable-USB-Charger-Cable-Sam-sung-S3-i9300-i9220-i9100-/111002137997
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Yeah, that's the thing that I have, but it does not work...
Okay, I read the rest of that ebay listing, and I followed the instructions. It does work, as it turns out. However, it's very inconvenient to turn on and off. Anyone have a homescreen widget that enables and disables accessory audio?
Forget all of that. Go this route. It will give you excellent audio quality and USB sound+charge at the same time. I have this setup with the Behringer UCA202 DAC and couldn't be happier with the sound quality. I love that it charges too and I only have to plug one cord in to the phone. No settings to change or anything, just plug and play music from any app. The DAC moves all of the sound processing off of the phone for better quality. Just check that link out.
uber_mike said:
Forget all of that. Go this route. It will give you excellent audio quality and USB sound+charge at the same time. I have this setup with the Behringer UCA202 DAC and couldn't be happier with the sound quality. I love that it charges too and I only have to plug one cord in to the phone. No settings to change or anything, just plug and play music from any app. The DAC moves all of the sound processing off of the phone for better quality. Just check that link out.
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I don't have anywhere to mount a DAC in my vehicle, though...
I'm sure you could find a space under the dash. You don't have to mount it out in the open. lol.

[Q] video out of headphone jack S5

Does anyone know if the s5 has video out on the braphone jack like old galaxy s devices?
I need a solution to get composite audio and video to a projector. Projector has DVI / svideo / composite/ VGA.
Any ideas? I have seen mhl to hdmi which are cheap but then I would have to convert to dvi and loose audio and run a separate cable.
No but there is MHL to VGA adapters you can buy from eBay etc.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/400785524940
But that's audio only.
I found thus that might do the trick and doesn't need any external power.
http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=251649511743&alt=web
Oh actually just looked again and there's an audio out socket on the aide of the VGA.
A7mag3ddon said:
I found thus that might do the trick and doesn't need any external power.
http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=251649511743&alt=web
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Says in the description you get video but you can't get audio out of that using S3/4/5 etc. Probably because of the newer MHL standard.
Perhaps they mean on the older phones? The description says AV cable. The A standing for audio and V standing for video. If it doesn't do audio then the item is not as described. I have just queried this with him. You can't have a title saying AV then in the last line if the small print say doesn't support audio.
Does that mean that the mhl to HDMI doesn't carry audio either?
A7mag3ddon said:
Perhaps they mean on the older phones? The description says AV cable. The A standing for audio and V standing for video. If it doesn't do audio then the item is not as described. I have just queried this with him. You can't have a title saying AV then in the last line if the small print say doesn't support audio.
Does that mean that the mhl to HDMI doesn't carry audio either?
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It means it works with audio and video on older devices using the original MHL, but S3/4/5 etc use MHL2.0 with different pinout and that's why you need an adapter, but maybe something about that RCA cable can't use the audio for whatever reason.
But as long as you use that little adapter you can use any MHL to HDMI with audio.
Just checked my MHL version is 2.1 hopefully they will clear it up. If that is the case can't I just use audio out the headphone jack and video from the mhl phonos? Pain in th ass from a wiring point if view but should still work.
A7mag3ddon said:
Just checked my MHL version is 2.1 hopefully they will clear it up. If that is the case can't I just use audio out the headphone jack and video from the mhl phonos? Pain in th ass from a wiring point if view but should still work.
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Yeah that'll work but audio quality won't be as good, but I guess it's the only way unless you buy a HDMI to RCA converter, but that means plugging 2 separate adapters into the phone and even more hassle.
Yeah plus I already bought that cable haha.
Your right its a massive hassle, I just gave away my iphone as well which was dead easy to connect via RCA, add that to my unable to swap extSD with inSD on kitkat problem and im starting to wish i hadnt bothered with the S5 now.
just bought Monoprice mhl vga converter which is supposed to be 100% compatible but can't connect... nothing happens,.. no sound, no error, just nothing. installed the Rom with stock kernel (thought that might be an issue (since I was running on Twi5ted Lollipop Rom with a custom kernel... same result, while my wife on her htc one m7 running a custom ROM too had no problem... just connect and enjoy... i'm at a loss... anyone here got an advice? thanx.
Galaxy S5 G900F... stock kernel.
I got an MHL converter in the end as well and it works great, you need to plug your charge cable into it as well at the same time to get it to work.

Inside the JBL motomod

Has anyone taken this thing apart? I cannot really find a lot of information on it online.
I am curious to know if it has its own dac/amp to run the speakers and what the connectors are made of.
If it does have a dac/amp is there a way to wire a 3.5mm headphone jack to it...or make the usb c port use the dac and amp to push headphones.
Please do not get into a debate trying to sell me on bluetooth headphones I have no desire to use a bluetooth adapter with a record player, and don't even like wireless gaming headsets, I prefer my audio wired...part of why I love this mod, not too many wired speakers as convenient and as portable as this one.
LeeMullinsII said:
Has anyone taken this thing apart? I cannot really find a lot of information on it online.
I am curious to know if it has its own dac/amp to run the speakers and what the connectors are made of.
If it does have a dac/amp is there a way to wire a 3.5mm headphone jack to it...or make the usb c port use the dac and amp to push headphones.
Please do not get into a debate trying to sell me on bluetooth headphones I have no desire to use a bluetooth adapter with a record player, and don't even like wireless gaming headsets, I prefer my audio wired...part of why I love this mod, not too many wired speakers as convenient and as portable as this one.
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Back cover is a sticker. Its pretty compact inside. Can you add a jack to it? Yes. Will it look good? No. If you have to ask if it can be done its going to be to large of a project for you.
bignazpwns said:
Back cover is a sticker. Its pretty compact inside. Can you add a jack to it? Yes. Will it look good? No. If you have to ask if it can be done its going to be to large of a project for you.
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Is there a dac/amp in it?
LeeMullinsII said:
Is there a dac/amp in it?
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Amp yes. DAC not sure never looked at the ic's close. I would Assume there is one to to do the digital to analog conversion.
Personally i would just make a mod. Order the parts have a case 3d printed. Making the mod is pretty simple. Few ways you can do it through a mod. If you do this you can set up something nice made for headphones. Adjust the gain from that so you can use higher impedance speakers.
Lenovo is going to announce more mods soon. I bet one of them will be a hi-fi mod. I would just wait for that.
I am hoping for something from ifa, but still want to keep my options open since I refuse to buy a walkman for close to a grand...although replacing speakers with a headphone jack seems a little easier to me than building a mod from scratch
LeeMullinsII said:
I am hoping for something from ifa, but still want to keep my options open since I refuse to buy a walkman for close to a grand...although replacing speakers with a headphone jack seems a little easier to me than building a mod from scratch
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If you do that then just use the USB c conversation. That moto mod is not going to be set up for the impedance of some headphones. So the amazing audio quality you think you will be getting will not be there.
Stock JBL speakers are I think 3 ohms. My high-end headphones are around 70-200. It just won't have the power needed to drive high end headphones to the upper levels
Can the connection pins for the mods duplicate a usb otg connection?
What Im thinking is making something of a case for the drangonfly red dac/amp should have room in there for a small battery pack as well...for the dac not the phone.
LeeMullinsII said:
Can the connection pins for the mods duplicate a usb otg connection?
What Im thinking is making something of a case for the drangonfly red dac/amp should have room in there for a small battery pack as well...for the dac not the phone.
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Gonna need a dev kit if you wanna go through the moto mod and not a USB OTG.
Moto mod will give you USB 3.1 host and slave 2.0 host.
MuC is basically the brain for a Moto mod.
The moto mod it's self is not hard to make. You can get a dev kit. Plug into the USB type c on it and call it a day. Or build something.
bignazpwns said:
Gonna need a dev kit if you wanna go through the moto mod and not a USB OTG.
Moto mod will give you USB 3.1 host and slave 2.0 host.
MuC is basically the brain for a Moto mod.
The moto mod it's self is not hard to make. You can get a dev kit. Plug into the USB type c on it and call it a day. Or build something.
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The dev kit has a usb port on it? Is there a forum dedicated to mod developing?

USB Type C to 3.5mm Headphone Jack Adapter

My issue
Hi everyone, I have a Nexus 6P and want to route my audio through a USB type C converter to 3.5mm headphone Jack. I have purchased one online, but it doesn't seem to be working. I have seen that the Moto Z has this adapter and I assumed one I found online would be compatible with my 6P. The reason I want to do this is because I prefer for the AUX jack to come out the bottom of my phone.
What I have tired
Changed 'Select USB Configuration' to all the different options and tried playing music.
Tried 'audio routing' apps from the app store
What I would like to know
Is this because I need to change a setting in my phone to route music out of the USB C?
Do I need to get some kind of DAC to allow support for this?
Has anyone else tried this with their phone?
Thanks
broj0nes
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If you don't mind my asking, why bother?
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If you don't mind my asking, why bother?
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One reason is that to me it makes more sense to put your phone upside down into you pocket. I've always done this at least. So when listening to music I have to put it the other way round. I have also heard the USB C port offers better sound quality.
brotherj0nes said:
One reason is that to me it makes more sense to put your phone upside down into you pocket. I've always done this at least. So when listening to music I have to put it the other way round. I have also heard the USB C port offers better sound quality.
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Re:sound quality, you'd possibly see a quality increase if you use an external Digital to Analogue Converter or fully usb-c headphones. BUT, if you're using a little dongle (if it's possible), then the phone is still managing the analogue conversion and, thus, a very similar quality of audio output. Now I don't know of the 6p's ability to pipe it straight out iPhone 7 style through a dongle, but short of buying a DAC and going whole-hog on an audio upgrade, I'd just flip your phone the other way in your pocket and go the standard route.
Just my $.02
I have been looking for a solution to this too and I seem to have found one. I poked around on Amazon and I think I finally found adapters that work, here's the link https://goo.gl/QT2ith This the only one with positive reviews so when it comes in on the 30th I'll let all of you know.
sgandy2989 said:
I have been looking for a solution to this too and I seem to have found one. I poked around on Amazon and I think I finally found adapters that work, here's the link https://goo.gl/QT2ith This the only one with positive reviews so when it comes in on the 30th I'll let all of you know.
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Looks quite similar to the one that I got. Hopefully it works for you! Let me know how it goes
I read recently that the current implementation of audio over USB-C isn't very efficient or battery friendly. There's a new spec being ratified to provide audio like the iphone can. Hopefully that's a firmware change and not a hardware one.
http://www.theverge.com/2016/8/17/12519936/intel-usb-type-c-headphone-jack-replacement-idf-2016
I don't think it's possible on the 6P, not without using a USB DAC anyway.
As far as I'm aware, the adapter you have is for a USB 3/3.1 interface. While the 6P has USB-C it is USB 2.
I'm able to get audio out of my USB C port, but it's with a USB headset. Haven't tried it with a 3.5mm headphone adapter, but havd no reason to try it either.
This is weird. Because i have a pair of Sennheiser Urbanites (Wireless edition), and i can use bluetooth, aux, and usb (like for a computer) audio. I once tried to turn off the headsets (bluetooth off, aux and usb still works if connected), and turned off bluetooth on my phone. Then i used my USB type C to USB type A Female adapter (from the google store), and connected the usb-cable from the headsets into the type c adapter. it did output audio through the usb-cable.
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This is weird. Because i have a pair of Sennheiser Urbanites (Wireless edition), and i can use bluetooth, aux, and usb (like for a computer) audio. I once tried to turn off the headsets (bluetooth off, aux and usb still works if connected), and turned off bluetooth on my phone. Then i used my USB type C to USB type A Female adapter (from the google store), and connected the usb-cable from the headsets into the type c adapter. it did output audio through the usb-cable.
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Bluetooth headphones usually have their own DAC, so the audio for all but the Aux is still being sent through the DAC first, which is supported by older USB standards.
The new USB 3.1 Audio standard can pass through analogue audio from the internal DAC, which is what I believe phones such as the Moto Z utilise. Otherwise the adapter would require it's own DAC, which would make it far larger and more expensive.
Not sure if you will find a good solution at the moment since they just created a standard for audio over usb c http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20160927006252/en/USB-IF-Announces-USB-Audio-Device-Class-3.0
Did the amazon converter end up working for you?
My experience so far.
Hi, I ordered some usb c to 3.5mm & out of the box so far they aren't working. I tried Neutron and tried to force the audio to usb but unsuccessfully with phone not recognizing the USB connection.
On the other hand the type C to usb-a adapter worked beautifully using mixplorer. If I get working, will update. Thanks.

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