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Rom Manager preloaded?

I just purchased the inspire today, little over a hour ago, very familiar with the custom roms and android, just came from captivate. Mine came with rom manager installed, how does this make sense? its not even rooted. And if for some reason it is a returned phone can they resale it as new?

If you put in your Google account when the phone first boots up it automatically starts installing the apps you had installed previously (in this case, you must have had a phone with ROM Manager on it tied to your Google account at some point).

really? it never did that on captivate, and it was only that maps and soemthing else that was on there asking if i wanted to update them. like right away, i never seen anything like it was d/l something i had tons of stuff installed on my other phone.

jc2470 said:
really? it never did that on captivate, and it was only that maps and soemthing else that was on there asking if i wanted to update them. like right away, i never seen anything like it was d/l something i had tons of stuff installed on my other phone.
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That feature was always broken on Samsung ROMs. Did you ever install CM? The feature worked on CM so maybe that's where you had ROM Manager installed and it was backed up.

well i was back on stock been back on stock for awhile on samsung phone. and yea had rom manager installed on it, but had alot of other stuff from market. When I got this phone today right when i started messing with it something came up asking if i wanted to update 4 apps and rom manager was one of them. So made me think it came with it, and if it d/l the app for me shouldnt it have asked me? I mean some apps are pretty big. and if it did d/l it cause i had it on other phone where are all the other apps i had? btw it never did that with my droid x or vibrant either.

jc2470 said:
well i was back on stock been back on stock for awhile on samsung phone. and yea had rom manager installed on it, but had alot of other stuff from market. When I got this phone today right when i started messing with it something came up asking if i wanted to update 4 apps and rom manager was one of them. So made me think it came with it, and if it d/l the app for me shouldnt it have asked me? I mean some apps are pretty big. and if it did d/l it cause i had it on other phone where are all the other apps i had? btw it never did that with my droid x or vibrant either.
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Sounds like it was a returned phone to me. Just for grins I had a friend at my old att store test one out, threw my sim in and loaded it up, set my account up to check email and non of my apps installed from the market, had a prompt to update gmail and I think one other but that was about it. Did you get it from a core ATT store or a local retailer?

I have had this on several different phones, though it never worked on my captivate. I believe if you select backup google data at some point and then again when setting up the new phone it triggers it. Not all apps will automatically download but many do.

newter55 said:
I have had this on several different phones, though it never worked on my captivate. I believe if you select backup google data at some point and then again when setting up the new phone it triggers it. Not all apps will automatically download but many do.
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Hmm see learn something new everyday. Sense the cap was my first Android device I never knew. Thanks Newter for the info. I will be spending a bit more time in this forum as well from now on. Gotta love learning lmao

of the 20 or so i have unboxed i have yet to see one with it on there ... my guess is it is a possible return that was resold ...
did you get it at a dealership store? (radio shack, best buy, or a similar place) or an actual corporate store?

Is it OK to Freeze...

..voice dialer and voice search?
Really new at Androids and hate to get rid of the wrong program.

Yes but why would you? They dont drain any battery if not used.

regP said:
Yes but why would you? They dont drain any battery if not used.
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Voice dialer always runs. Takes about 20mb of ram.

Go ahead and freeze it then. Though unless you're doing very intensive stuff on your phone it wont slow you down.

regP said:
Go ahead and freeze it then. Though unless you're doing very intensive stuff on your phone it wont slow you down.
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Also, on stock ROM (nandroid), i generally freeze rather then delete the bloatware, as it may allow OTA updates (would probably have to un-root and possibly restore stock recovery also though).

gaww said:
Also, on stock ROM (nandroid), i generally freeze rather then delete the bloatware, as it may allow OTA updates (would probably have to un-root and possibly restore stock recovery also though).
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Right. Definitely no deleting anything on my phone. Just freezing anything I don't use/need.
Gonna freeze both of the voice programs since I never use them.

maciek82 said:
Right. Definitely no deleting anything on my phone. Just freezing anything I don't use/need.
Gonna freeze both of the voice programs since I never use them.
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Google puts out the worst voice dialer i have ever tried to use. my 4 year old BB pearl is ma be 20 time better with respect to voice recognition.
I have gone to a 3rp party app which worked pretty good on froyo, but keeps on trying to talk to me on GB. Let it send a bug report and hopefully they can fix it.
But definitely freeze the Google crap.

gaww said:
Google puts out the worst voice dialer i have ever tried to use. my 4 year old BB pearl is ma be 20 time better with respect to voice recognition.
I have gone to a 3rp party app which worked pretty good on froyo, but keeps on trying to talk to me on GB. Let it send a bug report and hopefully they can fix it.
But definitely freeze the Google crap.
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Thanks. Just froze and everything is still good.
One more question. Google backup transport. It's always running. I do not use google backup. Is it safe to freeze?

maciek82 said:
Thanks. Just froze and everything is still good.
One more question. Google backup transport. It's always running. I do not use google backup. Is it safe to freeze?
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not sure - so I would say not in a good idea unless you are (I don't) - especially as it is a system app.

gaww said:
Also, on stock ROM (nandroid), i generally freeze rather then delete the bloatware, as it may allow OTA updates (would probably have to un-root and possibly restore stock recovery also though).
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yup you have to go back to stock and unroot for ota updates so freeze vs deleting doesn't matter. though instead of going through all that hassle its easier to just wait for someone to post the rooted version of any given update that way you can just flash it. or even on better.. wait for someone to de-odex and remove bloat so when you flash you're already bloat free

Which apps are ok to delete...

Just in case ya'll were wondering, the "shack" didn't question my "the computer shut down mid update" story. So i have the new captivate and I just rooted and 3e rovered and what not. Now, I w3ant to delete all the AT&T crapware/bloatware that came on this phone. I thought I saw a list a couple of days ago, but now I can't seem to find it. I've tried searching but to no avail. Does anyone have a comprehensive list of stock apps that are safe to delete from my Cappy?

redneck.nerd said:
Just in case ya'll were wondering, the "shack" didn't question my "the computer shut down mid update" story. So i have the new captivate and I just rooted and 3e rovered and what not. Now, I w3ant to delete all the AT&T crapware/bloatware that came on this phone. I thought I saw a list a couple of days ago, but now I can't seem to find it. I've tried searching but to no avail. Does anyone have a comprehensive list of stock apps that are safe to delete from my Cappy?
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RIght here:http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php?title=Barebones

Is that Captivate/AT&T specific or just android in general. Thanks for the fast response btw

If you use paid version of titanium backup you can freeze anything and defrost it immediately if it causes problems or defrost all in batch to return to stock. I have frozen everything on the phone whose name begins with at&t without a glitch and lots of other stuff as well.
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redneck.nerd said:
Is that Captivate/AT&T specific or just android in general. Thanks for the fast response btw
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Its for android in general.
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Here is a list of apps and what they are. Really good Spread sheet
https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc...Q3JBQkhoMkE&authkey=CKD8l6sI&hl=en_GB#gid=0re

redneck.nerd said:
Just in case ya'll were wondering, the "shack" didn't question my "the computer shut down mid update" story. So i have the new captivate and I just rooted and 3e rovered and what not. Now, I w3ant to delete all the AT&T crapware/bloatware that came on this phone. I thought I saw a list a couple of days ago, but now I can't seem to find it. I've tried searching but to no avail. Does anyone have a comprehensive list of stock apps that are safe to delete from my Cappy?
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Most of what past searches led me to is shown here: http://androidforums.com/1486373-post106.html
I just rename them, they don't load and are easilly reinstated.
I can verify these are safe to disable, plus any others beginning ATT.. except I haven't done the following 8 or their odexes from that list.
androidlauncher
Dlna
DrmProvider
DrmUA
IM-Signed
MyFiles
SisoDrmProvider
SnsAccount

How to REMOVE bloatware from your Galaxy S4

Hello all, while messing around trying to root some Chinise tablets I have been buying thu Aliexpress.com I came across this program callled MOBOROBO. It can be found at www.moborobo.com. It is a free program and I use it to manage all my android devices. I allows full management of almost any android device that I connect to my pc.
Just received my 32Gb S4. After finding out about the space issue and found out the 32GB was coming, I marched right in the ATT store and swapped. Had to pay the restocking fee but felt it was worth it. I have already rooted the phone and was thinking of disabling the bloatware while I wait for recovery ROM.
I just came home from work and connected my phone to the pc because while out today I decided to bite the bullet and took the OTA from ATT. Update went well, did not see any difference to nothing on phone except that it killed ROOT. I connected my phone and moborobo came up. I minimized it while I re-ROOT-ed my S4. I then went back to mess with moborobo to do a backup (I use it sometimes even though I have TiBU.) I then clicked on the apps tap at the top and noticed it listed all the apps on the phone. The was also a list of system apps. Went to the list and decided to uninstall some of the bloat. I figured maybe they won't be deleted, no prob if they don't I could then "disable".
To my surprise moborobo UNINSTALLED ALL the apps I threw at it. I was very cautious, I did not uninstall everything, only the ones I was sure of. Now I can always go back and do the others when I am sure I need to. Please check it out.

i just tried it and it works on att apps i just delete all this att crab.but this program doesn't know my phone name.

alibox87 said:
i just tried it and it works on att apps i just delete all this att crab.but this program doesn't know my phone name.
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do u have a list of all the att apps that are safe to remove?

alibox87 said:
i just tried it and it works on att apps i just delete all this att crab.but this program doesn't know my phone name.
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If your drivers are installed it will show your device name. While the program is running try disconnecting and reconnecting your phone. I have used it with my S4 (SGH-I337) my wife's S3 (SGH-I737) my older S2 (SGH-I777) and last night a friend came by with an S3 from t-mobile and when I connected it it came up (SGH-I339) I think. I don't have the most updated version of the program ( was not sure about keeping it) but mine starts up as soon as I connect my phone and sometimes it does not readily show my phone name.

Titanium Backup is my fave app to remove bloatware and back up all my apps and call history & text mssgs:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...mNvbS5rZXJhbWlkYXMuVGl0YW5pdW1CYWNrdXBQcm8iXQ..
ROM Toolbox is another good one and offers a lot of other features as well:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...EsImNvbS5qcnVtbXkubGliZXJ0eS50b29sYm94cHJvIl0.
Both require root, of course.

twinky112 said:
do u have a list of all the att apps that are safe to remove?
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I just deleted the AT&T apps along with yahoo and that yp stuff. Since I just got the phone I wanted to check out everything and decide what I want to get rid of. I read somewhere in this forum, someone posted a long list of all the apps including the Samsung ones. However I am going to be cautious so nothing gets messed up before we have some good ROMS coming from the great xda-developers kitchens. Some of the apps are not easy to identify from their apk, example: ATT navigator, the apk says telenav....apk.

CZ Eddie said:
Titanium Backup is my fave app to remove bloatware and back up all my apps and call history & text mssgs:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...mNvbS5rZXJhbWlkYXMuVGl0YW5pdW1CYWNrdXBQcm8iXQ..
ROM Toolbox is another good one and offers a lot of other features as well:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...EsImNvbS5qcnVtbXkubGliZXJ0eS50b29sYm94cHJvIl0.
Both require root, of course.
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I am with you on those apps being good apps, I am not sure however if TiBU actually remove the apps or just freeze them. I have used it to freeze apps the I could not delete or wish to return to at a later time.
In all of this though, one thing has come to my mind. Even if we remove all the bloatware, we still do not have more space because all of this reside in the special partition that we do not have access to until it is re-partition or allowed access in a recovery ROM. With all the removal that I have done I did not see an increase of space available. Going back to moborobo I can see that my system file list have been greatly reduced but my available space have not increased. I have therefore concluded that removing bloatware will only console me to the fact that all that junk is not on my phone. The 6.5Gb used for system files and bloatware is a partition that was set aside. I could be wrong on this so if necessary please teach me.

Yep, with Titanium backup you can either freeze or permanently uninstall any app or system app.
My S4 is still in FedEx' hands so I haven't had a chance to see the file system yet.
Speaking of FedEx. I'm in Austin, Texas. FedEx picked up the phone from AT&T in Ft Worth Texas. Now the tracking shows it is in Memphis, TN for some reason.

CZ Eddie said:
Yep, with Titanium backup you can either freeze or permanently uninstall any app or system app.
My S4 is still in FedEx' hands so I haven't had a chance to see the file system yet.
Speaking of FedEx. I'm in Austin, Texas. FedEx picked up the phone from AT&T in Ft Worth Texas. Now the tracking shows it is in Memphis, TN for some reason.
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Yeah, returned the 16g ver for the 32g yesterday rooted that sucker using my new and improved S4-Chopper, rom toolbox uninstalling apps & backing it up using titanium pro then started tweaking it... I would suggest making a list delete 4 apps then back-up del 4 mo then back-up. That way you can get this monster the way you want it... mine is pumping out Slightly over 13000 on quadrant so im happy!!

It goes to Memphis because that is FedEx's main hub. So all packages go though there first
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I accidentally deleted a system app. It was yellow pages so it's not a big deal but I would like to have it backed up with my other system apps. If I factory reset it will I get it back, or do I need to find a apk for it? Or would I have to go to the extreme and flash the stock TouchWiz rom

Randallel said:
I accidentally deleted a system app. It was yellow pages so it's not a big deal but I would like to have it backed up with my other system apps. If I factory reset it will I get it back, or do I need to find a apk for it? Or would I have to go to the extreme and flash the stock TouchWiz rom
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Try downloading it from the play store or Samsung store.
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CZ Eddie said:
Yep, with Titanium backup you can either freeze or permanently uninstall any app or system app.
My S4 is still in FedEx' hands so I haven't had a chance to see the file system yet.
Speaking of FedEx. I'm in Austin, Texas. FedEx picked up the phone from AT&T in Ft Worth Texas. Now the tracking shows it is in Memphis, TN for some reason.
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Memphis is FedEx's Hub. Everything goes through there, even when it means going from Texas to Memphis and back to Texas. The Postal Service does similarly if I mail a letter to someone in town. It goes to the regional hub (30 miles West from home and back to home.
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[Q] Possible to save older app version file apk from non-rooted phone?

forgive my ignorance, heres some background info. Ive been using android for a long time but not very technically knowledgeable about the OS but I think its time i learn some stuff. Im far more knowledgeable than the average PC user about most hardware and software so I dont think it would be too hard to pick up some power user android tips/tricks. Only reason I havent done so yet is cause the stock version has always worked great for my needs so far but im starting to have some issues now. I fricking HATE forced OTA updates as they most often fubar my phone after they install. Ive never rooted, thought im starting to look into doing so as it may be beneficial to my needs. I currently have a samsung galaxy note 3 on verzion with unlimited data which i pretty much only use as a wifi hotspot device, upwards of 250 gig a month for about 6 months of the year to stream HD video TV shows and as my main internet source while i travel and a samsung galaxy note 4 on att with 30 gig a month data allowance which i use as my main mobile phone/tablet device needs. In my experience ATT sucks a fat one with very sporadic data speeds and successful call rates even with 4-5 bars of 4G LTE signal which varys from non existent to moderate at best wherever i go. Verizon is 2x as fast as atts top speeds consistently with no wavering in speeds anywhere and with equal signal verizion is always at least 2x faster than att wherever ive tested them so far. id throw the att at a brick wall and only use verizon except for the fact verizon has zero coverage where i live most of the time.
Anyways back to the main topic question, I have a DJI Inspire 1 quad copter and use my att samsung galaxy note 4 phone to view the camera as i fly and run the DJI Pilot app. I hate and do not want to use the updated app version as it removes features and adds unwanted restrictions and I was wondering if someone could tell me how I can copy the app apk file I think its called? from my phone to my pc to preserve my current version of the app and install it later to a different device or my same device after a factory reset if ever necessary. I dont not want to lose the current app version that im running now. Its since been updated on the google play store so you can no longer the the version im currently running from there. Is this possible without being rooted from a samsung galaxy note 4 running android version 5.0.1 on att? I may have the same app version installed on my note 3 on verizon running kit kat i think, and maybe even an older att note 2 running an even older android version, not sure which, but its on the OTA update that fubared the note 2 on att.
oh and one more question please, my note 3 on verizon has downloaded another OTA update and keeps asking me to install which i keep postponing cause i use foxfi for my hotspotting needs and am scared the OTA update will screw that ability up so i dont want to install it. Its working perfectly for what i want to use if for right now so no reason to update in my opinion. Is there any way to delete this OTA update file and get it to stop asking me to update every time i use the device?
any info appreciated, thanks a million!

1)Go settings >
About phone/system updates
Select options and select never update
2)or restrict back ground data in data settings
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@SultanGris
If u want to back up your current app then u can easily do it wit any backup app...available in store..
Like -App backup and restore etc
Or u can use es Explorer there a option to backup apps...
And for restrict ur update. There may be a option to restrict update or check update in system update setting.. Or you can restrict background data for system updates...
Hope this helps

I've disabled them now but it's to late, it already downloaded and keeps asking to install. Any way to find and delete the file it wants to install?

SultanGris said:
I've disabled them now but it's to late, it already downloaded and keeps asking to install. Any way to find and delete the file it wants to install?
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May be clear data of system updates works

How do you do that?

SultanGris said:
How do you do that?
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Go to settings >apps>All
Search software or system update nd clear data...
Maybe this works for you...
If not... Factory reset is the option..