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4G not implimented yet!!?? plus more

ok i havent seen a post for this so here we go..
if you use adw launcher and custom make an icon attached to the hidden menu apk you can access the test and servicing menus like other phones BUT... if you go into test settings for phone (play around its in there) there is a menu the shows hspda (3g, hspda+ being 4g) and many other functions that are advertised on the phone that are all listed as NOT IMPLIMENTED YET!!
so as far as i can tell 4g is NOT active on tmobile at all yet. not until the software is upgraded (gingerbread i am assuming). so it would make sense why the signal on the phone is screwed up and dropping (confused phone maybe?) and why im still getting 3g speeds (slightly faster maybe from better signal reception due to upgraded hardware from my previous Vibrant).
go take a look for yourself and let me know what you think. im sure you can use desktop visualizer to get to the menu to. DONT MESS WITH ANYTHING THOUGH. i had to reset my phone and not with a hard reset, but a recovery i found on a nvflash website. almost bricked it. so just look but don't touch anything important unless you know what your doing.
im looking forward to hearing what everything thinks of this and the giant list of other features also saying this in the same menu. because i feel mislead just a little bit.....

I think it's just that the functions in the hidden menu aren't implemented yet.

Hmmm, interesting find! Maybe this explains the problems I'm having maintaining a stable 2g only connection as well

Dolphinwigs said:
ok i havent seen a post for this so here we go..
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There's a reason for that...
so as far as i can tell 4g is NOT active on tmobile at all yet. not until the software is upgraded (gingerbread i am assuming)
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I've got a hot 4g connection where I am (west Texas), you don't get 4.9-5.6mb (Speedtest) download on 3g. Did you check the T-Mobile coverage map to see if you have it in your area yet?
Edit: you also may need a new sim card. Depending on the age of the card, you might not be able to get a stable lock on to 4g (age as in what generation it was produced.. not how long you've had it)

thats possible, but im getting 3g speeds still as far as i can tell and i don't see why it wouldnt be included in the "hidden menu" if it is working since we aren't "really" supposed to know about the hidden menu. anyways just something i noticed.
menu is Hidden Menu->modem settings is where the menu is at.
and i got a new sim card (tired 2 new ones both the same) and yes i am in salt lake city and it is a 4g area for tmobile. but seems like everyone (mostly) is getting signal drops all over the place. my 2g isn't working as consistantly as it did before on my vibrant either. im sure gingerbread will fix all of this though.

I'm getting 4-8mps down in Metro Atlanta. I say 4G speed is on.

jdkackley said:
Hmmm, interesting find! Maybe this explains the problems I'm having maintaining a stable 2g only connection as well
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I'm having the same problem, and I've even got a 2G booster in my house. My 2G connection drops all the time on my G2X but not my Vibrant. When I look at the signal strength when it's up it's not much different than the Vibrant, -104dBm on the G2X vs -100 dBm on the Vibrant

Im at a consistent 6-9mb dl at my house with a 1mb+ ul. Im calling it 4g and have you tried your conn outside of your city to see if its just congestion on the network?

I'm also getting 4-8mbps speeds in Atlanta, 4g is definitely working.

I'm in vegas, every hour, I get only 10 or 20mn of 4g at 6Mb download speed, the rest of the time I'm on 2g. At night time,i get 4g most of the time. So I guess in the day time, they kick me back to 2g to save their bandwitch, I'm returning my phone to let them know this is not acceptable
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My phone SAYS 4G all the time in Charlotte NC but I have only been getting 1mb DL and about 1.5 upload. The weird thing is that browsing the web is lightening fast compared to the vibrant. I would say it loads pages twice as fast.

jrharvey said:
My phone SAYS 4G all the time in Charlotte NC but I have only been getting 1mb DL and about 1.5 upload. The weird thing is that browsing the web is lightening fast compared to the vibrant. I would say it loads pages twice as fast.
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Not sure but this may have as much to do with the processor and RAM speed as the connection speed.

I get crap speeds compared to the Nexus S, and that phone doesn't support full hspa+

jlevy73 said:
I get crap speeds compared to the Nexus S, and that phone doesn't support full hspa+
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I am not complaining about my speeds which are plenty good IMO, averaging around 3-3.5 mbps. However, I have been surprised that they are no better than my Nexus One was that also didn't support HSPA+.

A few things, before we get too heavy handed on the FUD:
The phone is technically '4G' compatible, and it supports it out of the box.
Most of T-Mo's towers have been upgraded to support their 4G (HSPA+)
Regular HSPA caps out at about 3.5Mbps down. I've gotten as much as 7Mbps down on my G2x
Personally, I haven't had many issues with signal, but I live in Houston, so that may have something to do with it.

4g is on in Huntington Beach, and irvine.
I did notice its not a huge difference speed wise though. I had the moto cliq 3g and i would get 1mbs ish to 5mbs DL, and with the G2x im averaging about 3mbs to 7mbs. not a huge difference but the big change is Latency. I used to rock 700ms to 1000ms on 3g with my cliq, im getting around 55ms to 150ms on my G2x.
Latency is key for me though, i would prefer lower latency than higher download speeds. Due to the fact I need to vpn and voip with company network.
I found that t mobiles 3g network is still very capable in speed. the main issue i had was my cliq was underpowered to handle the t mobiles network. when i would tether my rooted nook color it would perform like a champ.

jimbo831 said:
I am not complaining about my speeds which are plenty good IMO, averaging around 3-3.5 mbps. However, I have been surprised that they are no better than my Nexus One was that also didn't support HSPA+.
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Where do you live? Is it possible T-Mo may not support HSPA+ in your area?
It's also important to note that even if the towers you're connected to support HSPA+, that's only one part of the process. They also have to upgrade the data connection to the tower itself (backhaul) to ensure it can handle the speeds. If you're connected to an HSPA+ tower that doesn't have the upgraded backhaul, that could explain slow speeds.

No.
HSPA+ ("4G") is on and working. You're just not in an HSPA+ area it seems.
We're all getting faster than HSPA speeds, so we are certainly on HSPA+. Speedtests are the best way for you to verify if you are on EDGE (2G), HSPA (3G), or HSPA+ (4G).

I would like a 3g icon just top know what type of tower I'm on, I think the baseband is wack, I bet when gingerbread comes out we will get the separate icons... Also my vibrant would get steady 5-6mb down 2mb up, but with this phone its anything but steady, I can get up to 8mb down but its crazy random, regular use is sometimes slow initializing, and someones websites timeout.... I think a baseband upgrade will fix all this stuff tho, or software upgrades.
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pychobj2001 said:
I would like a 3g icon just top know what type of tower I'm on, I think the baseband is wack, I bet when gingerbread comes out we will get the separate icons... Also my vibrant would get steady 5-6mb down 2mb up, but with this phone its anything but steady, I can get up to 8mb down but its crazy random, regular use is sometimes slow initializing, and someones websites timeout.... I think a baseband upgrade will fix all this stuff tho, or software upgrades.
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That's the thing though. The way T-Mo has their network setup, if you can get 3G from a tower, you should be able to get 4G. Period. You may not get 4G speeds, but you're technically connected to an HSPA+ tower, and thus the 4G icon. It'd be weird to connect a tower that supports HSPA at this point, but not HSPA+ (though I'm sure there are some out there)

Wifi speeds decreasing after 5-10 mins?

I've noticed this since I got the phone the other day. I'm connected to wifi and for the first couple of minutes my wifi speeds are what they should be which are around 15-18mbps. Then after about 5 or 6 minutes maybe a little more the download speeds decrease to around .80mbps. Upload speeds remain the same.
Can others test this out.
Connect to wifi
Then run a speedtest via the speedtest app which is available in the market
Then put your phone down for several minutes
Then run another test and see what you get
Doesn't always happen right away but more frequently when the wifi connection is being used. HTC definitely has some bugs with the Sensation. Hopefully they'll be addressed sooner rather than later.
Using T-Mobile USA by the way.

Did you already try this fix? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1118017
I haven't had the problem you speak of.

jrwingate6 said:
Did you already try this fix? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1118017
I haven't had the problem you speak of.
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Yup, problem still there. I called T-Mobile and they said they are working on an update to address the latency/radio issues. Hopefully that will resolve it.

Have the problem. I think either an.app we have installed is doing it or we have to wait on a fix.
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Yup, problem still there. I called T-Mobile and they said they are working on an update to address the latency/radio issues. Hopefully that will resolve it.
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Mine can't even hang on to wifi for that long, lol
Thank god I don't use wifi much.

I'm in this boat as well. After a while my wifi slows down greatly, restarting the wifi connection being the only method of restoring it to it's proper bandwidth.
On the note of the Slow data latency fix, I'm pretty sure that that menu in its entirety, as well as the ciphering option, only apply to the network data connection, and not wifi.
Edit: Addendum:
It seems to me to be correlated loosely with wifi-calling use.
It certainly isn't instant, but I've been testing it off and on and it seems that if I turn wifi calling off and then restart my wifi the gradual slowdown doesn't occur, but if I turn wifi calling on, then it does.

I heard unchecking the using mobile data speeds up wifi as well. And are you guys using the best wifi performance option as well?

Maybe its a certain app you guys are using. Mine stays at a constant 30mb/s down and 10mb/s up whether I'm on WIFI for 10 minutes or 10 hours.
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I disabled WiFi calling and the problem seems to have been stopped. So far so good. It was dropping to 2Mbs and after disabling WiFi calling my speeds jumped back up to 17Mbs.

I talked with T-Mobile tech support about it, and since my phone was recently purchased they gave me another Sensation. The issue is no longer present, all the same apps, all the same settings, same network.

[Q] Data towers selection?

so i noticed in the speedtest.net app there is a option to change servers before or after you run the test, the app auto selects the closest server, im useing ninja 0716 with Lords kernel 6.2, anyways i run the test several times with the closest server selected automatically its in my city 10 miles away i consistently get very very poor data speeds, i then switch to the next closest server which is 55 miles away and run the test several times and get very consistent results with amazing speeds 4X what i get with the close server??? anyways what im hoping is that there is a way to make my phone ignore that close server so that i can always connect to that server that is further away, then i will have the data speeds that i pay for??? maybe edit the build.prop or something i hope someone here can help me

The speedtest app is very inaccurate if you want more reliable speedtests you should navigate in the browser to a something like speakeasy. The server you speedtest to has nothing to do with the tower your connected to. There are tweaks you can do to get better speeds.
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any one else?
so server or tower either way the accuracy of speedtest dosent matter to me consistency is consistency, i have great speed every where but my neighborhood, because of this local tower or server that my phone sticks too, i want to bypass this so that im connected to one thats further away, by the way i tested this with other apps and got the same results every time.

now i get you, you want specify which tower you connect to. It would be hard to trick the phone into connecting to a weaker signal. Have you tried speedtests late at night to see if your speeds are better. if its slow all the time the tower might not have the backhaul done yet. or it may have issues, some towers are slow due to misconfig. there is one in the next town over from me thats always 1.5 meg down 24/7 just so happens to be the one that the at&t store is near the store told them multiple times that its slow and they wont do anything to fix it. you would think they want that tower to have good speeds but thats at&t for ya.

The ATT corporate store where I live is in a spot with horrible coverage and is also unable to get u-verse. Their wi-fi is from dsl. 1.5 mbps d/l speed. LOL.
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biglittlegato said:
The ATT corporate store where I live is in a spot with horrible coverage and is also unable to get u-verse. Their wi-fi is from dsl. 1.5 mbps d/l speed. LOL.
Some of them put microcells in the store, so when your checking out the phone the speeds fly, but when you goto the parking lot they drop to normal speeds.......sad.
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i hope someone can help
i have tested at night and it is better but still very very poor in comparison...d

Chances are you're connecting to the same cell tower when you run that test w/ varying speeds on speedtest, it just so happens that the server in which you're testing against is either 1)highly congested or 2) having issues. You're getting the speeds you pay for when testing on each of them but one ST.net server is able to reflect it more accurately than the other.

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so i noticed in the speedtest.net app there is a option to change servers before or after you run the test, the app auto selects the closest server, im useing ninja 0716 with Lords kernel 6.2, anyways i run the test several times with the closest server selected automatically its in my city 10 miles away i consistently get very very poor data speeds, i then switch to the next closest server which is 55 miles away and run the test several times and get very consistent results with amazing speeds 4X what i get with the close server??? anyways what im hoping is that there is a way to make my phone ignore that close server so that i can always connect to that server that is further away, then i will have the data speeds that i pay for??? maybe edit the build.prop or something i hope someone here can help me
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Have you tried Open Signal app from the market? It at least indicates which tower you are connected to by CID and such, and provides a map of it's general location using Google maps. Also logs the pertinent signal stats. I've mapped out my environs pretty good using it...and now know what to generally expect from the network. I live in a virtual forest of towers, so knowiing which tower I'm connected to and knowing it's general performance over time..well I'm just into that I guess. ... Along with knowing by CID and location a couple of really kick azz towers that are good for the ego to run a test and get a kick butt number.

WTF?
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Chances are you're connecting to the same cell tower when you run that test w/ varying speeds on speedtest, it just so happens that the server in which you're testing against is either 1)highly congested or 2) having issues. You're getting the speeds you pay for when testing on each of them but one ST.net server is able to reflect it more accurately than the other.
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ok let me make this clear IM NOT A FUC**** IDIOT when i run the test im not connected to the same tower with varying speeds OMG! consistent speeds all through out the day on every test, the accuracy means NOTHING, ive used all speed tests so yes i have Open Signal installed and guess what i get the SAME results, when i switch towers either by using speedtest and manually switching or by leaving my town, i get great i mean great speeds consistently once again ACCURACY MEANS NOTHING FOR THESE TESTS!!!

greentrees89 said:
ok let me make this clear IM NOT A FUC**** IDIOT when i run the test im not connected to the same tower with varying speeds OMG! consistent speeds all through out the day on every test, the accuracy means NOTHING, ive used all speed tests so yes i have Open Signal installed and guess what i get the SAME results, when i switch towers either by using speedtest and manually switching or by leaving my town, i get great i mean great speeds consistently once again ACCURACY MEANS NOTHING FOR THESE TESTS!!!
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Well gee you know it all. Why did you come on here and ask anyway?...it's was hard to understand what kind of help you want to be honest...and now that I do, go find your own answers.

Dude, Texas Redneck answered your questions correctly. Quit being such a NOOB! Evidentally you don't know the difference between a tower and a server or have any idea of the concept. The tower is where your phone gets connection from. It is that big antenna close to you with the dishes on the top. Most likely you are using the same tower when you run the test if you stay in the same place.
When you connect to speednet you are connectiong to one of their servers. So your signal may go from your phone > tower > server A > speednet server A. If you change speednet server it may go phone > tower > server A > server B > speednet server B. There could be numerous servers in between or none. The closer you are the less there should be so as to say giving you the fastest test connection. But there are many factors. The tower can be congested and so can the servers. So depending on the time of day or which servers are congested your connection speed could be fast or slow.
But you cannot switch servers or towers to use your phone on. They are determined by what ip address you are accessing and your location. So if your town has a capped tower and connects to a slow server then you get slow speeds. Or move.

LOL
OK your funny i know what a tower is you make me laugh, this and ACCURACY make no difference to me, it dosent matter what test i use or what server they use, all that matters to me is connecting to a tower that is further away, the phone selects the closest tower for me, someone out there knows how to change this, im am hopeing they will reply here and share this info, and everyone else that being you! can mumble the obvious to them selves and not waste my time, lol your funny there are very smart people that occasionally poke there heads in here to laugh at NOOBS like you, if im lucky one of them will stop by and chat with me about tricking my phone into connecting to the tower of my choice, since you obviously have no idea what im talking about FU** off, lol thanks for the laugh

[SOLVED] Horrid Network Speeds (not just mobile network)

Hey everyone, I was wondering what kind of speeds I should be getting here.
On the mobile network I get most of the time less than 2mbps, around 1.5-1.75, I ONCE got above 3mbps. That's download, upload is a dismal 1.2-1.5 mbps.
I thought maybe it was just where I was, bad cell tower, etc., but check this. My home wifi is reasonably fast, I get 12-16 mbps down on the computer with ~3mbps up. On my phone, connected to wifi, gets 4.5mbps down and just under 2mbps up. This shouldn't happen, should it? On my old mytouch slide, in the same room I'm in right now, I got 3-4mbps consistently over the mobile network (not even HSPA+, just plain old HSPA), and at LEAST 7 or 8 mbps over wifi, on the same wifi network. I'm very confused here, why is my HTC Sensation, which is supposed to be the latest and greatest, getting such terrible speeds? Do I have hardware issues? It's the same dismal speeds on every ROM I've tried. Stock before rooted, stock after rooted, arhd, cm7, everything is horrible. Should I call t-mobile and ask for a replacement? I just can't figure out why I'm getting slower speeds on HSPA+ than I was on 3G HSPA. Yikes.

Make sure your radio and RIL are correct (search the RIL and Radio threads) ... if you've tried different ROMs you may have over-written something.
I consistently get 16-20 MBPS down 10-15 MBPS up speeds on my home wifi (Verizion FIOS 25/25 service).
Get Wifi Analyzer from the market (free) and make sure you are not sharing WIFI channels with your neighbors.

Gunkk said:
Make sure your radio and RIL are correct (search the RIL and Radio threads) ... if you've tried different ROMs you may have over-written something.
I consistently get 16-20 MBPS down 10-15 MBPS up speeds on my home wifi (Verizion FIOS 25/25 service).
Get Wifi Analyzer from the market (free) and make sure you are not sharing WIFI channels with your neighbors.
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My baseband version in about phone reads 10.58.9035.00P_10.15.9035.02_2. I think the radio that they test CM7 with is 10.56.9035.00U_10.14.9035.01, so I suppose I COULD downgrade, but I was having the same issues even before I rooted. As for RIL's, I know what they are but I have never come across them. I don't know if they're built in or if I have to flash them or even where to find them.
I have noticed HORRIBLE wifi reception with this phone. I can never connect to the wifi at my school, and at home, I can hold the phone right next to the router and it will still be 3/4 bars of wifi. Right know I'm in the room right next to the router and it alternates between the little dot of the wifi icon and the 1st bar. My computer gets 5/5 bars. My cell reception has seemed to be normal though, haven't noticed any huge issues. In fact, it seems to hang onto 3G/HSPA better than my old phone did. My old phone constantly bumped down to edge in my house. Speeds suck on this phone though, and I can't figure out why.
I tried that app you suggested, didn't find any interference, but saw how stupidly low my signal strength was. Here's a SS, attached.

Bump,any ideas?
Sent from my Sensation

The CM ROM is using the RIL for the radio mentioned in the OP.
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MusicMan374 said:
how stupidly low my signal strength was. Here's a SS, attached.
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Check the antenna contacts on the back of the phone; try bending them up to engage the pads in the cover.
Failing that, return the phone for replacement.
Sent from my Bricked Energy ROM Sensation.

I decided to do a test as I have been experiencing substantial drop in DL/UL speeds utilizing my personal favorite CM7.
Radios varied with CM7 reco through latest HTC radio. Stock & OC kernal. Observation.
Dozens of tests. 6+ DL 2.5 Mbps UL.
Wi-Fi- Avg expected speeds 31 Mbps DL 6.50 UL Mbps. ( Wifi signal was extremely erratic). No fix.
revert back to Sense 3.5 NRG rom with 169 RIl matching radio.
Stock kernal.
Dozens of tests. Avg 9.25 DL1.50 Mbp UL
Wi-fi- same as CM7 however signal is perfect.
FWIW- complete stock sense posed higher DL/UL. Odd but how much stock I put into this?
Benchmarks- with both Cm7 & sense OC kernals.
Both scored heavily using the most common benchmarks.
AnTuTu-6381
CF-7667
Quadrant-3810
Stock kernal- nothing to write home about.
Other then the data speed, in terms of user experience, difficult to say. Other than I was always plagued with accurate gps lock using CM7.
I'm all over the place regarding the breakdown but I don't have much patience right now.
Enjoy.

Typical WiFi performance for me at home (fastest is ~20 D 10 U). Router is at the other end of the house (blue on the graph). If you have strong signal, look at the software (radio + RIL), if signal is weak check antenna.
Sent from my Bricked Energy ROM Sensation.

So I guess I'll try the recommended radio. How do you check which RIL you have? I don't think its the radio though, since I had the same bad speeds on stock s-on before rooting. I'll try checking the antenna connectors in the casings. If I do have to do a warranty exchange, will I have to get the phone back to s-on to be under warranty?
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MusicMan374 said:
So I guess I'll try the recommended radio. How do you check which RIL you have? I don't think its the radio though, since I had the same bad speeds on stock s-on before rooting. I'll try checking the antenna connectors in the casings. If I do have to do a warranty exchange, will I have to get the phone back to s-on to be under warranty?
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Regarding RIL check- Run getprop gsm.version.ril-impl in Terminal Emulator (Download from market if you don't have). Takes 2 seconds to get RIL which will show 169, 173, etc...
Regarding exchange- I'm assuming you will have to revert back to S-on but I could very well be wrong, however I know for peace of mind, I would do this to ensure a complete hassle free exchange.
Wish I could assist more.

ahahaha.
i live in italy. I paid 19 € so about 25 $ for a bad connection of 7 mega in download and 0,45 mega in upload, but the real speed is 4/0,3
for curiosity how much do you pay in United states???
return to your phone, probabily you can to flash other radi.img

I am on a shared plan, but I think for just me, 4G data is $20/month, which guarantees 4G speeds up to 2GB of usage, then it starts throttling. I did check my usage, I'm under 1GB.
Checked my RIL against the RIL thread that's stickied in the dev forum, I have 2.2.1073HMQ, which is matched to the 10.58 radio that I currently have. So it can't be an RIL issue.
I also tested the speed of the data connection through a wifi hotspot on my computer. I still only got about 2 mbps on the computer, maybe 2.5, don't remember exactly. Definitely under 3 though, which is unacceptable. I think I'm going to call t-mobile, because I'm supposed to be in a 4G coverage area. But on top of that, my wifi speeds suck as well, which tells me it's not just network coverage, it's something to do with the wireless chipset, something isn't working correctly. I think I should be able to except AT LEAST equivalent speeds to my old 3G slide.

tonno16 said:
for curiosity how much do you pay in United states???
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Verizon FIOS @ $100/mo gets you 25/25 fiber to the house, phone, and a few hundred channels of hi def TV. Wireless router included gets up to 20 MBps to the phone.
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So I called t-mobile, the first guy said he thought I knew what I was talking about and had tried everything that he had ideas for, so he sent me to tier 2 support, and that guy told me that it was probably something faulty in either the back of the phone (antenna) or the radio controller. He thought my wifi and cell speed issues were related. Since I got the phone at costco he suggested I try to do an exchange through them since I'd get a new device in exchange instead of a refurbished one. I'm going to end up going that route.
So here's my question now, once I get the new replacement phone, since it's the same phone, is it possible to take a nandroid of my current phone how it is and then restore it after I root and get s-off? Or would that not work since the phones would have different serials and IMEI's? It would be so much easier if I could just nandroid restore after I s-off, root, and get clockwork.

Bump?
Sent from my Sensation

MusicMan374 said:
Bump?
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There aren't that many people who would have done it.
So try it and report back!
Sent from my Bricked Energy ROM Sensation.

Gunkk said:
There aren't that many people who would have done it.
So try it and report back!
Sent from my Bricked Energy ROM Sensation.
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Alright, I'll try it, no harm really, worst thing I can get is a bootloop I'll just make sure and back up my apps beforehand just in case it doesn't work. I'm going back on Friday to try and get a replacement, so I'll report back then.

alot of 3g networks i noticed cap at 1.75megs down and 1.50-1.75 up and since the sensation wont tell us if we have 3g or not and list 4g as anything above edge it's just kinda hit or miss when u actually do have 4G but from my house right now i'm getting 1.75 down and if i go to the others ide of town i get 9.xx down (rarely over 10 though sadly)

morganpants said:
alot of 3g networks i noticed cap at 1.75megs down and 1.50-1.75 up and since the sensation wont tell us if we have 3g or not and list 4g as anything above edge it's just kinda hit or miss when u actually do have 4G but from my house right now i'm getting 1.75 down and if i go to the others ide of town i get 9.xx down (rarely over 10 though sadly)
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My phone reports 2g, 3g and 4g. I can see the difference in data rate between the three.
The phone idles in "3g" even when near a 4g tower for power savings.
Sent from my Bricked Energy ROM Sensation.

Yeah, only sense roms don't differentiate between 3g and hspa. I've tried in different cell towers where I'm supposed to have full 4g, and I don't. I have maybe 2.5 mbps, most of the time 2 or below. I'm exchanging my phone Friday at Costco so hopefully the new one is different and I don't get one with the stupid ssharp screen. I like this Acer one better.
Sent from my Sensation

Serious wifi calling problems, all kernels share the same problem

So I moved to a new house which has basically no LTE and lower cellular coverage. My old house was a highrise with a literal t-mobile tower on the top, so I never even considered using wifi calling as my LTE coverage was perfect.
So here I am, with my Note 5, thinking I can rely on wifi calling in my new house. The house has excellent wifi coverage that can still achieve decent speeds even on the exterior. I use an Asus AC router that I've completely opened up to the world while troubleshooting the problem. Sitting in my living room (where my most recent call was dropped), I'm pulling down 74mbps and uploading 13mbps according to the speedtest app on the note 5.
My phone shows that it's connected to wifi and that Wifi calling is enabled. I've also changed it to "Wifi calling preferred" so it doesn't even attempt to use the limited cellular network that I can get in some rooms occasionally (depending on air density).
However, I basically miss all inbound calls, outbound calls only occasionally connect, and when I do have a successful call, it drops in and out as though I'm on an actual spotty cellular network.
I've tried Arter, SkyHigh and stock rooted kernels, all with the same results. I'm basically at my wit's end and getting ready to abandoned t-mobile. I read that exynos does not handle these handoffs and transitions as well as qualcom SOCs, but I'm reluctant to give up my great note 5 for a ****ty LG just to test this theory.
Can anyone provide some guidance or advice on how I can deal with this? I'm on the original jump plan + unlimited data and I really don't want to abandon t-mobile, but working voice is essential.

apols said:
So I moved to a new house which has basically no LTE and lower cellular coverage. My old house was a highrise with a literal t-mobile tower on the top, so I never even considered using wifi calling as my LTE coverage was perfect.
So here I am, with my Note 5, thinking I can rely on wifi calling in my new house. The house has excellent wifi coverage that can still achieve decent speeds even on the exterior. I use an Asus AC router that I've completely opened up to the world while troubleshooting the problem. Sitting in my living room (where my most recent call was dropped), I'm pulling down 74mbps and uploading 13mbps according to the speedtest app on the note 5.
My phone shows that it's connected to wifi and that Wifi calling is enabled. I've also changed it to "Wifi calling preferred" so it doesn't even attempt to use the limited cellular network that I can get in some rooms occasionally (depending on air density).
However, I basically miss all inbound calls, outbound calls only occasionally connect, and when I do have a successful call, it drops in and out as though I'm on an actual spotty cellular network.
I've tried Arter, SkyHigh and stock rooted kernels, all with the same results. I'm basically at my wit's end and getting ready to abandoned t-mobile. I read that exynos does not handle these handoffs and transitions as well as qualcom SOCs, but I'm reluctant to give up my great note 5 for a ****ty LG just to test this theory.
Can anyone provide some guidance or advice on how I can deal with this? I'm on the original jump plan + unlimited data and I really don't want to abandon t-mobile, but working voice is essential.
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Not sure of a solution but I can tell you that I use Wifi calling all the time on the Note 5 and do not experience any of these issues.
We would need to know more details to help further.
Are you stock? If not, which rom?
When was the last time you wiped your phone?
Anyone else have Tmob in the home?
I understand your frustration but I dont think its Tmobile. Chances are its something with your internet connection or a software issue of the phone.

DeeXii said:
Not sure of a solution but I can tell you that I use Wifi calling all the time on the Note 5 and do not experience any of these issues.
We would need to know more details to help further.
Are you stock? If not, which rom?
When was the last time you wiped your phone?
Anyone else have Tmob in the home?
I understand your frustration but I dont think its Tmobile. Chances are its something with your internet connection or a software issue of the phone.
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Thanks for the reply! Not stock, using Darthstalker V11 rom. Only person living here, but I do have a verizon iphone for work. I just moved here, and prior to moving, I had an enterprise level firewall in place, which meant I had to open up the right ports to allow for wifi calling. Since I've moved, I haven't even put it in place, so I'm just using an Asus router as a router & AP with no firewall functionality.
Phone was last wiped a couple of months ago when installing the latest version of Darthstalker. With each kernel I've tried, I've wiped the cache multiple times post-install.

apols said:
Thanks for the reply! Not stock, using Darthstalker V11 rom. Only person living here, but I do have a verizon iphone for work. I just moved here, and prior to moving, I had an enterprise level firewall in place, which meant I had to open up the right ports to allow for wifi calling. Since I've moved, I haven't even put it in place, so I'm just using an Asus router as a router & AP with no firewall functionality.
Phone was last wiped a couple of months ago when installing the latest version of Darthstalker. With each kernel I've tried, I've wiped the cache multiple times post-install.
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Was the Wifi calling working before you moved?

DeeXii said:
Was the Wifi calling working before you moved?
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I never had to actually rely on it, so I'm not sure. I used it here and there when visiting low-coverage areas, but now it's basically my only option. For reference, I moved from the DC area to a smaller town in Central VA that only recently received t-mobile LTE. That being said... in certain areas of my house I get enough t-mobile LTE to pull down 30Mbps, but the upload portion is incredibly asymmetric and only pushes about .1 mbps up... Given that I get decent LTE in some places in the house, but it drops off as soon as I turn the corner, I've configured wifi calling to prefer wifi over cellular, which leads to another odd thing....the phone basically needs to be rebooted once leaving a wifi calling network, as it'll never switch the LTE radio back unless I reboot. It'll just stay on 3g/edge otherwise.
As for my wifi coverage, I get great speeds when testing basically anywhere in the house, both upload and download. However, when I'm on a call that is clearly being routed through wifi, it'll start pinging me and warning that the call may be dropped in place where I'm still getting excellent wifi coverage.