Hey everyone, I was wondering what kind of speeds I should be getting here.
On the mobile network I get most of the time less than 2mbps, around 1.5-1.75, I ONCE got above 3mbps. That's download, upload is a dismal 1.2-1.5 mbps.
I thought maybe it was just where I was, bad cell tower, etc., but check this. My home wifi is reasonably fast, I get 12-16 mbps down on the computer with ~3mbps up. On my phone, connected to wifi, gets 4.5mbps down and just under 2mbps up. This shouldn't happen, should it? On my old mytouch slide, in the same room I'm in right now, I got 3-4mbps consistently over the mobile network (not even HSPA+, just plain old HSPA), and at LEAST 7 or 8 mbps over wifi, on the same wifi network. I'm very confused here, why is my HTC Sensation, which is supposed to be the latest and greatest, getting such terrible speeds? Do I have hardware issues? It's the same dismal speeds on every ROM I've tried. Stock before rooted, stock after rooted, arhd, cm7, everything is horrible. Should I call t-mobile and ask for a replacement? I just can't figure out why I'm getting slower speeds on HSPA+ than I was on 3G HSPA. Yikes.
Make sure your radio and RIL are correct (search the RIL and Radio threads) ... if you've tried different ROMs you may have over-written something.
I consistently get 16-20 MBPS down 10-15 MBPS up speeds on my home wifi (Verizion FIOS 25/25 service).
Get Wifi Analyzer from the market (free) and make sure you are not sharing WIFI channels with your neighbors.
Gunkk said:
Make sure your radio and RIL are correct (search the RIL and Radio threads) ... if you've tried different ROMs you may have over-written something.
I consistently get 16-20 MBPS down 10-15 MBPS up speeds on my home wifi (Verizion FIOS 25/25 service).
Get Wifi Analyzer from the market (free) and make sure you are not sharing WIFI channels with your neighbors.
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My baseband version in about phone reads 10.58.9035.00P_10.15.9035.02_2. I think the radio that they test CM7 with is 10.56.9035.00U_10.14.9035.01, so I suppose I COULD downgrade, but I was having the same issues even before I rooted. As for RIL's, I know what they are but I have never come across them. I don't know if they're built in or if I have to flash them or even where to find them.
I have noticed HORRIBLE wifi reception with this phone. I can never connect to the wifi at my school, and at home, I can hold the phone right next to the router and it will still be 3/4 bars of wifi. Right know I'm in the room right next to the router and it alternates between the little dot of the wifi icon and the 1st bar. My computer gets 5/5 bars. My cell reception has seemed to be normal though, haven't noticed any huge issues. In fact, it seems to hang onto 3G/HSPA better than my old phone did. My old phone constantly bumped down to edge in my house. Speeds suck on this phone though, and I can't figure out why.
I tried that app you suggested, didn't find any interference, but saw how stupidly low my signal strength was. Here's a SS, attached.
Bump,any ideas?
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The CM ROM is using the RIL for the radio mentioned in the OP.
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how stupidly low my signal strength was. Here's a SS, attached.
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Check the antenna contacts on the back of the phone; try bending them up to engage the pads in the cover.
Failing that, return the phone for replacement.
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I decided to do a test as I have been experiencing substantial drop in DL/UL speeds utilizing my personal favorite CM7.
Radios varied with CM7 reco through latest HTC radio. Stock & OC kernal. Observation.
Dozens of tests. 6+ DL 2.5 Mbps UL.
Wi-Fi- Avg expected speeds 31 Mbps DL 6.50 UL Mbps. ( Wifi signal was extremely erratic). No fix.
revert back to Sense 3.5 NRG rom with 169 RIl matching radio.
Stock kernal.
Dozens of tests. Avg 9.25 DL1.50 Mbp UL
Wi-fi- same as CM7 however signal is perfect.
FWIW- complete stock sense posed higher DL/UL. Odd but how much stock I put into this?
Benchmarks- with both Cm7 & sense OC kernals.
Both scored heavily using the most common benchmarks.
AnTuTu-6381
CF-7667
Quadrant-3810
Stock kernal- nothing to write home about.
Other then the data speed, in terms of user experience, difficult to say. Other than I was always plagued with accurate gps lock using CM7.
I'm all over the place regarding the breakdown but I don't have much patience right now.
Enjoy.
Typical WiFi performance for me at home (fastest is ~20 D 10 U). Router is at the other end of the house (blue on the graph). If you have strong signal, look at the software (radio + RIL), if signal is weak check antenna.
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So I guess I'll try the recommended radio. How do you check which RIL you have? I don't think its the radio though, since I had the same bad speeds on stock s-on before rooting. I'll try checking the antenna connectors in the casings. If I do have to do a warranty exchange, will I have to get the phone back to s-on to be under warranty?
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So I guess I'll try the recommended radio. How do you check which RIL you have? I don't think its the radio though, since I had the same bad speeds on stock s-on before rooting. I'll try checking the antenna connectors in the casings. If I do have to do a warranty exchange, will I have to get the phone back to s-on to be under warranty?
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Regarding RIL check- Run getprop gsm.version.ril-impl in Terminal Emulator (Download from market if you don't have). Takes 2 seconds to get RIL which will show 169, 173, etc...
Regarding exchange- I'm assuming you will have to revert back to S-on but I could very well be wrong, however I know for peace of mind, I would do this to ensure a complete hassle free exchange.
Wish I could assist more.
ahahaha.
i live in italy. I paid 19 € so about 25 $ for a bad connection of 7 mega in download and 0,45 mega in upload, but the real speed is 4/0,3
for curiosity how much do you pay in United states???
return to your phone, probabily you can to flash other radi.img
I am on a shared plan, but I think for just me, 4G data is $20/month, which guarantees 4G speeds up to 2GB of usage, then it starts throttling. I did check my usage, I'm under 1GB.
Checked my RIL against the RIL thread that's stickied in the dev forum, I have 2.2.1073HMQ, which is matched to the 10.58 radio that I currently have. So it can't be an RIL issue.
I also tested the speed of the data connection through a wifi hotspot on my computer. I still only got about 2 mbps on the computer, maybe 2.5, don't remember exactly. Definitely under 3 though, which is unacceptable. I think I'm going to call t-mobile, because I'm supposed to be in a 4G coverage area. But on top of that, my wifi speeds suck as well, which tells me it's not just network coverage, it's something to do with the wireless chipset, something isn't working correctly. I think I should be able to except AT LEAST equivalent speeds to my old 3G slide.
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for curiosity how much do you pay in United states???
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Verizon FIOS @ $100/mo gets you 25/25 fiber to the house, phone, and a few hundred channels of hi def TV. Wireless router included gets up to 20 MBps to the phone.
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So I called t-mobile, the first guy said he thought I knew what I was talking about and had tried everything that he had ideas for, so he sent me to tier 2 support, and that guy told me that it was probably something faulty in either the back of the phone (antenna) or the radio controller. He thought my wifi and cell speed issues were related. Since I got the phone at costco he suggested I try to do an exchange through them since I'd get a new device in exchange instead of a refurbished one. I'm going to end up going that route.
So here's my question now, once I get the new replacement phone, since it's the same phone, is it possible to take a nandroid of my current phone how it is and then restore it after I root and get s-off? Or would that not work since the phones would have different serials and IMEI's? It would be so much easier if I could just nandroid restore after I s-off, root, and get clockwork.
Bump?
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Bump?
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There aren't that many people who would have done it.
So try it and report back!
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Gunkk said:
There aren't that many people who would have done it.
So try it and report back!
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Alright, I'll try it, no harm really, worst thing I can get is a bootloop I'll just make sure and back up my apps beforehand just in case it doesn't work. I'm going back on Friday to try and get a replacement, so I'll report back then.
alot of 3g networks i noticed cap at 1.75megs down and 1.50-1.75 up and since the sensation wont tell us if we have 3g or not and list 4g as anything above edge it's just kinda hit or miss when u actually do have 4G but from my house right now i'm getting 1.75 down and if i go to the others ide of town i get 9.xx down (rarely over 10 though sadly)
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alot of 3g networks i noticed cap at 1.75megs down and 1.50-1.75 up and since the sensation wont tell us if we have 3g or not and list 4g as anything above edge it's just kinda hit or miss when u actually do have 4G but from my house right now i'm getting 1.75 down and if i go to the others ide of town i get 9.xx down (rarely over 10 though sadly)
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My phone reports 2g, 3g and 4g. I can see the difference in data rate between the three.
The phone idles in "3g" even when near a 4g tower for power savings.
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Yeah, only sense roms don't differentiate between 3g and hspa. I've tried in different cell towers where I'm supposed to have full 4g, and I don't. I have maybe 2.5 mbps, most of the time 2 or below. I'm exchanging my phone Friday at Costco so hopefully the new one is different and I don't get one with the stupid ssharp screen. I like this Acer one better.
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ok i havent seen a post for this so here we go..
if you use adw launcher and custom make an icon attached to the hidden menu apk you can access the test and servicing menus like other phones BUT... if you go into test settings for phone (play around its in there) there is a menu the shows hspda (3g, hspda+ being 4g) and many other functions that are advertised on the phone that are all listed as NOT IMPLIMENTED YET!!
so as far as i can tell 4g is NOT active on tmobile at all yet. not until the software is upgraded (gingerbread i am assuming). so it would make sense why the signal on the phone is screwed up and dropping (confused phone maybe?) and why im still getting 3g speeds (slightly faster maybe from better signal reception due to upgraded hardware from my previous Vibrant).
go take a look for yourself and let me know what you think. im sure you can use desktop visualizer to get to the menu to. DONT MESS WITH ANYTHING THOUGH. i had to reset my phone and not with a hard reset, but a recovery i found on a nvflash website. almost bricked it. so just look but don't touch anything important unless you know what your doing.
im looking forward to hearing what everything thinks of this and the giant list of other features also saying this in the same menu. because i feel mislead just a little bit.....
I think it's just that the functions in the hidden menu aren't implemented yet.
Hmmm, interesting find! Maybe this explains the problems I'm having maintaining a stable 2g only connection as well
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ok i havent seen a post for this so here we go..
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There's a reason for that...
so as far as i can tell 4g is NOT active on tmobile at all yet. not until the software is upgraded (gingerbread i am assuming)
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I've got a hot 4g connection where I am (west Texas), you don't get 4.9-5.6mb (Speedtest) download on 3g. Did you check the T-Mobile coverage map to see if you have it in your area yet?
Edit: you also may need a new sim card. Depending on the age of the card, you might not be able to get a stable lock on to 4g (age as in what generation it was produced.. not how long you've had it)
thats possible, but im getting 3g speeds still as far as i can tell and i don't see why it wouldnt be included in the "hidden menu" if it is working since we aren't "really" supposed to know about the hidden menu. anyways just something i noticed.
menu is Hidden Menu->modem settings is where the menu is at.
and i got a new sim card (tired 2 new ones both the same) and yes i am in salt lake city and it is a 4g area for tmobile. but seems like everyone (mostly) is getting signal drops all over the place. my 2g isn't working as consistantly as it did before on my vibrant either. im sure gingerbread will fix all of this though.
I'm getting 4-8mps down in Metro Atlanta. I say 4G speed is on.
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Hmmm, interesting find! Maybe this explains the problems I'm having maintaining a stable 2g only connection as well
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I'm having the same problem, and I've even got a 2G booster in my house. My 2G connection drops all the time on my G2X but not my Vibrant. When I look at the signal strength when it's up it's not much different than the Vibrant, -104dBm on the G2X vs -100 dBm on the Vibrant
Im at a consistent 6-9mb dl at my house with a 1mb+ ul. Im calling it 4g and have you tried your conn outside of your city to see if its just congestion on the network?
I'm also getting 4-8mbps speeds in Atlanta, 4g is definitely working.
I'm in vegas, every hour, I get only 10 or 20mn of 4g at 6Mb download speed, the rest of the time I'm on 2g. At night time,i get 4g most of the time. So I guess in the day time, they kick me back to 2g to save their bandwitch, I'm returning my phone to let them know this is not acceptable
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My phone SAYS 4G all the time in Charlotte NC but I have only been getting 1mb DL and about 1.5 upload. The weird thing is that browsing the web is lightening fast compared to the vibrant. I would say it loads pages twice as fast.
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My phone SAYS 4G all the time in Charlotte NC but I have only been getting 1mb DL and about 1.5 upload. The weird thing is that browsing the web is lightening fast compared to the vibrant. I would say it loads pages twice as fast.
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Not sure but this may have as much to do with the processor and RAM speed as the connection speed.
I get crap speeds compared to the Nexus S, and that phone doesn't support full hspa+
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I get crap speeds compared to the Nexus S, and that phone doesn't support full hspa+
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I am not complaining about my speeds which are plenty good IMO, averaging around 3-3.5 mbps. However, I have been surprised that they are no better than my Nexus One was that also didn't support HSPA+.
A few things, before we get too heavy handed on the FUD:
The phone is technically '4G' compatible, and it supports it out of the box.
Most of T-Mo's towers have been upgraded to support their 4G (HSPA+)
Regular HSPA caps out at about 3.5Mbps down. I've gotten as much as 7Mbps down on my G2x
Personally, I haven't had many issues with signal, but I live in Houston, so that may have something to do with it.
4g is on in Huntington Beach, and irvine.
I did notice its not a huge difference speed wise though. I had the moto cliq 3g and i would get 1mbs ish to 5mbs DL, and with the G2x im averaging about 3mbs to 7mbs. not a huge difference but the big change is Latency. I used to rock 700ms to 1000ms on 3g with my cliq, im getting around 55ms to 150ms on my G2x.
Latency is key for me though, i would prefer lower latency than higher download speeds. Due to the fact I need to vpn and voip with company network.
I found that t mobiles 3g network is still very capable in speed. the main issue i had was my cliq was underpowered to handle the t mobiles network. when i would tether my rooted nook color it would perform like a champ.
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I am not complaining about my speeds which are plenty good IMO, averaging around 3-3.5 mbps. However, I have been surprised that they are no better than my Nexus One was that also didn't support HSPA+.
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Where do you live? Is it possible T-Mo may not support HSPA+ in your area?
It's also important to note that even if the towers you're connected to support HSPA+, that's only one part of the process. They also have to upgrade the data connection to the tower itself (backhaul) to ensure it can handle the speeds. If you're connected to an HSPA+ tower that doesn't have the upgraded backhaul, that could explain slow speeds.
No.
HSPA+ ("4G") is on and working. You're just not in an HSPA+ area it seems.
We're all getting faster than HSPA speeds, so we are certainly on HSPA+. Speedtests are the best way for you to verify if you are on EDGE (2G), HSPA (3G), or HSPA+ (4G).
I would like a 3g icon just top know what type of tower I'm on, I think the baseband is wack, I bet when gingerbread comes out we will get the separate icons... Also my vibrant would get steady 5-6mb down 2mb up, but with this phone its anything but steady, I can get up to 8mb down but its crazy random, regular use is sometimes slow initializing, and someones websites timeout.... I think a baseband upgrade will fix all this stuff tho, or software upgrades.
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I would like a 3g icon just top know what type of tower I'm on, I think the baseband is wack, I bet when gingerbread comes out we will get the separate icons... Also my vibrant would get steady 5-6mb down 2mb up, but with this phone its anything but steady, I can get up to 8mb down but its crazy random, regular use is sometimes slow initializing, and someones websites timeout.... I think a baseband upgrade will fix all this stuff tho, or software upgrades.
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That's the thing though. The way T-Mo has their network setup, if you can get 3G from a tower, you should be able to get 4G. Period. You may not get 4G speeds, but you're technically connected to an HSPA+ tower, and thus the 4G icon. It'd be weird to connect a tower that supports HSPA at this point, but not HSPA+ (though I'm sure there are some out there)
I don't have cable internet where i live due to the fact i travel to and from class way to much to use it. I tethered my phone via wireless or usb to my computer and run off of the 3g network speeds. I currently switch between CM7 and then new EVO Shift 2.3.3 leaked GB Test ROM. I noticed that i have 57% signal according to opensignal and when i download anything or load web pages they are very slow no matter how many bars i have. My download speeds are usually around 20kbps to 55kbps max Is there anything i can do to increase the net speed of my 3G connection? Or is there a app on the market place that i can use to improve or some how boost my 3g network speeds.
I've noticed a little bit slower speeds using the Gingerbread leak but nothing as slow as what you are experiencing. Have you tried the fix from this thread? [FIX] 3G Upload & Download Speeds
Sprints network for Michigan, Ohio and all its surrounding states flat out sucks I get them speeds daily and all Sprint keeps doing is knocking 20 and 50 off my bills, I don't care about money off they either need to fix their network or that roam controlling app is going to get me out of contract etf free I don't care to pay good money for good service but when I pay 160 a month for 2 lines I would expect to be getting the 3G Sprint lies and says I get,
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Yea, know what you mean. I've called them several times here in Michigan. All they do is tell me is "we're working on the network to improve call quality and internet service" . Same answer almost everytime.
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Have you flashed the new radio found here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1082192 its the radio that came out with the gingerbread ruu. I had the same issue. I was using the old radio on the new roms and my 3g speeds where about 50-90 kbps then upgraded the new radio now I'm getting on average anywhere between 300-700kbps
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Have you flashed the new radio found here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1082192 its the radio that came out with the gingerbread ruu. I had the same issue. I was using the old radio on the new roms and my 3g speeds where about 50-90 kbps then upgraded the new radio now I'm getting on average anywhere between 300-700kbps
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Ah is that what it was. I flashed a new rom the other day with the sense 2.1 and everything was cool except the 3g data speed. It was taking 5-10 minutes to download a 1mb file so I had to restore my other rom lol. My normal 3g data speeds are over 1mbps which is super fast. I couldnt even browse the web with the leaked build, it was ridiculous.
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Ah is that what it was. I flashed a new rom the other day with the sense 2.1 and everything was cool except the 3g data speed. It was taking 5-10 minutes to download a 1mb file so I had to restore my other rom lol. My normal 3g data speeds are over 1mbps which is super fast. I couldnt even browse the web with the leaked build, it was ridiculous.
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Wow when mine hit 700 kbps I thought that was fast. I came from T-Mobile and was getting 2-3mbps on their 3g also my girlfriend uses Comcast to go which uses the Sprint towers for the service and she gets 1.5 to 3 mbps speeds
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going to try what one do you guys do "1.17.651.1 RUU (Stock):" or 2.72.651.2 RUU: i dont have 4g here
i believe 1.17.651.1 ruu is the stock version that's already on your phone, for people that want to flash back to stock settings if the new radio fails to perform. you should flash to 2.72.651.2 if you want an attempt at an upgrade. personally, it did nothing on my end for the internet, but voice calls did slightly improve. i encountered problems too, where it would hang on the htc splash screen. i don't have an sd card adapter... so i had to put my micro in my old htc hero, run that as a mass storage unit, delete PG06IMG from the computer, boot into bootloader, delete everything, clean cache, davilk (i think that's what it's called), and re-load from nandroid backup. after that i saw 1.08... in about phone, baseband version so i guess i was successful lol. pain in the ass, but will further test it later outside and stuff... once the heat drops down over her in n.y. :]
Besides the fact that my 3G speeds crawl. My 4G is SLOWER on occaison than my 3G. Lol, why is this and how can I fix? It all started when I first flashed cm7
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Sprint Mikshifted 2.1
I was wondering the number i had to enter to access the network settings for the mikshifted 2.1 mod. I tried to enter ##3282# and no luck with that . I noticed that my 3g speeds were 20kbps and its horrible lol. Have flashed the new radio on a previous version of CM7 and Kingdom 3.0 rom and didn't work so hot for me. Anyone have any recommendations?
I live in an area mostly covered by "4g" LTE. My charge will sometimes connect to LTE in my bedroom, but most of the time it can't. Every time it briefly connects to 4g in my home, however, it does not hand back off to 3g for a good 5 minutes or so. Instead, I lose all data connectivity. I've tried turning data mode off then back on, but it doesn't work. After about 5 minutes or so with no data signal, it'll reconnect to 3g. Does anyone know what could be causing this? Is there a way to fix it without just turning the LTE off (switching to CDMA only)? I get LTE in most areas around my house but apparently I live in a Faraday cage or black hole or something.
This is a 100% stock ROM, not rooted, never flashed any new ROMs or Modems.
Man, I have the same issue. I feel ur pain. I was downloading files on 4G and at around 34 percent, it cut out and went on 1x. Stayed there. And I was outside in a wide open spot. It happens man, I was told there's something wrong that causes the data signal cycling like that. I've tried what u tried also. If u can get a straight answer, let me know too lol. And to top it all off, HORRIBLE BATTERY LIFE.
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The handoff process from LTE to CDMA is still pretty cagey. Fortunately, it's mostly software, so updates should help this process.
I haven't done any research on whether EP1F or EP1H (the leaked Gingerbread builds) are any better at it, but I would have to assume that it's part of the process they're working on with modem updates, etc.
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The handoff process from LTE to CDMA is still pretty cagey. Fortunately, it's mostly software, so updates should help this process.
I haven't done any research on whether EP1F or EP1H (the leaked Gingerbread builds) are any better at it, but I would have to assume that it's part of the process they're working on with modem updates, etc.
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when i was with ep1f the radio worked better for me. i was able to connect more frequently to 4g and switching was hassle free (no time outs). it's possible that the problem is on verizon's side since my cousin, who's on stock, is having the same problems in an entirely 4g area.
You might have a ****ty SIM card.
When I first got my Charge it was very similar to your situation. I had poor 4G connectivity in my supposed "fringe" area. Then a week ago it was losing connectivity from 4G to 3G and eventually stopped getting 3G all together.
I got a new SIM and now I get 4G in places where I only get 1 to 2 bars of call signal.
And I also stay on 4G a lot longer. Almost never does it switch over on long downloads or streaming vid.
PS: HAHAHA "long downloads". Sometimes a 300MB download will take much less than a minute depending on where it's coming from.
It must suck to make believe you have fast data. Right, AT&T? HAHAHAHA WiMax!!!
Awful data connectivity for the last week (Houston area) - Updt "Desperation sets in"
Anyone else getting horrid data connectivity on their TB? I usually never have data connectivity issues. In fact I was running just fine on the same ROM as recently as last week. But about 4 or 5 days ago, it went to total ****.
It has gotten so bad that I can't use 4g for more than 60 seconds. 3g is somewhat more reliable, but seems to drop down to 1x regularly.
I'm in the houston area and running BAMF Forever 1.09.
Do I need to get a sim replacement or something?
Try a new rom... I was using BAMF and noticed the same issue. Switched over to SHIFTAO5P with a Imoseyan kernel and haven't had any issues. Much snappier than the phone was previously and I haven't had any trouble with 4g. No trouble with data at all actually.
I am having issues too. Especially in buildings where I had a 3 bar 4g signal before, I am now not even picking up a 4g signal. Also, the 3g signal only reaches a bar at best. Almost like an antennae problem or something. But again, it just started within the last week. Co-inky-dink? (Detroit btw)
Running SOAB 1.3 in North Houston area, data has been spotty for awhile now, but not awful.
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i completely lost data this morning. dont know what happened. i switched to a rom i know was working and i am still having issues. i am at a lost on what to do, it must be a network issue
in south west PA
Yes, so, desperation sets in rather quickly when your phone internet is garbage, I suppose I must be an addict.
I tried many things today:
-Flashed old radios
-ReFlashed new radios
-Flashed new rom
-Flashed old rom
-Pulling/Replacing the battery (don't laugh, I told you I was desperate)
-Drove around the city testing various areas for connection quality
-Went into the verizon store and demanded a SIM card replacement
Perhaps the most painful of the steps I took was the last one. While they were replacing my SIM and giving me odd looks for having a rooted system, I meandered over to the Rezound station. Big mistake. I downloaded speedtest and android terminal, and repeatedly ran the bandwidth test and pinged google from terminal.
Consistent 75ms ping to google, consistent 27mbps down 11mbps up.
I tried the same thing outside the store with my TB, so I could take advantage of any network smoke and mirrors they may be using
My TB: Consistent 220ms ping to google, inconsistent 4mbps down 0.5mbps up
How depressing that was. Nothing has worked. 4g has been unusable for over a week now and 3g is slow as a snail, and only slightly more reliable. I am convinced I have a marginally defective handset and there is nothing I can do to get my 4G back except pay for a new phone.
I might buy my ticket to the TB haters' ball while I'm at it.
Just curious, but why didn't you unroot and turn s-on before going to the store?
Good question, I did think about doing that but ultimately my laziness prevailed. First of all, I am not a serial flasher by nature so I find it somewhat inconvenient to be constantly re-setting-up my accounts/contacts/apps/lookandfeel.
I justified going into the store because I knew if I played dumb and insisted walking out of the store with my handset in hand, that there was likely nothing that would happen. Never underestimate the complacence of an employee on commission who is doing something for you that does not involve earning a commission.
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Try a new rom... I was using BAMF and noticed the same issue. Switched over to SHIFTAO5P with a Imoseyan kernel and haven't had any issues. Much snappier than the phone was previously and I haven't had any trouble with 4g. No trouble with data at all actually.
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What radio are you using and does SHIFTAO5P have permission revocation as well as an uncrippled bluetooth stack (keyboard, wiimote, ps3 support).
So , I got my refurb on Saturday and I confirmed that the issue was hardware related. I did one final test to make sure. My setup was:
Both phones:
no SD card
stock GB MR (unrooted)
same sim card
Fresh wipe/update install
same battery
I installed Speedtest.net (Houston, TX comcast test server) and terminal emulator on both phones and sat in the same chair in my house for testing both phones (had to do 1 at a time due to sim card and battery, obviously).
My first phone (defective):
Speedtest server ping: ~220ms
Speedtest down speed: 500kbps
speedtest up speed: 400kbps
google.com ping: ~180ms, 5% packets dropped.
note: 4g connection indicator (in status bar) would drop randomly during speedtest, also about 2 of the speedtest attempts failed with "connection error"
Refurb:
Speedtest server ping: ~80ms
Speedtest down speed: 26000kbps
speedtest up speed: 9000kbps
google.com ping: ~80ms, 0% packets dropped.
no errors
Ran the test 5 times on each phone in a row, results were clear as day, my original unit somehow got ****ed up 4g hardware.
mthe0ry said:
Anyone else getting horrid data connectivity on their TB? I usually never have data connectivity issues. In fact I was running just fine on the same ROM as recently as last week. But about 4 or 5 days ago, it went to total ****.
It has gotten so bad that I can't use 4g for more than 60 seconds. 3g is somewhat more reliable, but seems to drop down to 1x regularly.
I'm in the houston area and running BAMF Forever 1.09.
Do I need to get a sim replacement or something?
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I have a similar issue as the OP. I was going to start a thread. My issues are a little more of the data connection on/off every 10 seconds. I'm actually flashing the newest shift AOSP now. If this doesn't go away... I will kill...
I'm having the same issues as both op and the poster in post #11. I may try for another refurb, but I'm not sure. I tried that route once before and all three were junk. I think this phone has turned into a major fail by htc.
1454 said:
I'm having the same issues as both op and the poster in post #11. I may try for another refurb, but I'm not sure. I tried that route once before and all three were junk. I think this phone has turned into a major fail by htc.
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I unrooted a couple weeks ago as I was rooted from launch date, started at mr1 and took the otas and the connection seems to be more stable for whatever reason. Even though I had run just a basic rooted 2.11.605.5 ROM with the ota radios.
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I'm over in the NY area and ever since I woke up from work this morning I have been unable to keep a cellular data lock for more than 30 seconds (3g or 4g). I am rooted and am using a custom ROM, but I haven't changed it in nearly 4 months (haven't even updated it).
-x1
I sell vzw for a franchise/premium retailer and I have noticed on my phone first and then on everyone I know/see that has htc's I've noticed that even down to the incredible, incredible 2, and of course the thunderbolt. I honestly haven't checked the rezound but plan to if someone buys one or I have time to test it.
Basically 4G only gets under 4 mbps and 3G phones only get 3 mbps and under. Sometimes averaging around 1 mbps.
According to HTC its a network issue. I said,"how could it be a network issue if the other 4G phones like the Motorola's more specificly like the bionic I have next to my thunderbolt is running 14-18 mbps!"
Verizon says its not a network issue and I was right it is pretty obvious. They said it's a phone issue and it's the first they've heard of it.
I personally believe it has something to do with the back cover antenna. And I also can't help noticing how cheap they are and how they seem to be trying to get rid of more lately. Yes it can very well be because its almost a year that its been out and I'm sure there's somewhere I'm not looking where it shows its planned life time.
I just want to make sure there isn't a software issue going on here or if its a hardware/"dare I say it, defect" with these phones.
Now I will say I have this verified by people I know that travel through and/to Pittsburgh for school and work. It does appear that with more towers downtown u do get a lot of signal bombarding ur phone and they pull about 8mbps. Bionic was going 14-18 mbps all over my area and would imagine it stays strong in the city too.
I'm running cm7 and I got friends running all kinds of roms for there thunderbolts all same results and unrooted users/store phone sent straight from htc/random traffic in the store all get the same bad results. Hope this helps and comments are a must please.
-theZEEKone
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Could be a radio issue I am still on MR2 ota this was done side by side with a Rezound at VZW store and both got similar speeds. And this is one of the slower speeds I have ever got as well.
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Here's my speed test....looks fine to me..
Well i can't post pics yet but my test is normal for me, 10 down 2 up
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Mine is over 4mb.
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I had my TB since March of this year, and I didn't have 4G to pick up until they expanded here. While my phone would originally pick up 4G, it stopped picking it up unless the signal was very strong, like in a Verizon store where they have the repeaters. My wife's TB would pick up 4G if it was anywhere around, and would smoke my phone for data speeds every time. I had changed the SIM card, which had no noticeable effect, and finally sent it back under warranty and got a replacement. Of course, I had to unroot and restore to stock, but my replacement is as good as it should have been all along.
To the OP, It may be a situation where you have some HTC phones that have poor signal issues like mine had. My original TB could have had the issue all along, but I was not aware because of how well the phone handled everything else, and the fact that it DID pick up 4G, just not very well.
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Oh, to add to this, my old TB would only get data speeds averaging 4-5 MB/s down with 4G, and my wife's would get 17-26 MB/s side by side. My replacement gets 15-17 MB/s down and 8-10 MB/s up with the 906 radio. Wife's radio is 508/510 combo, I believe.
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Could be a radio issue I am still on MR2 ota this was done side by side with a Rezound at VZW store and both got similar speeds. And this is one of the slower speeds I have ever got as well.
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Uhh youre on wifi there buddy. I think he was talking about the 4G/3G data speeds.
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Uhh youre on wifi there buddy. I think he was talking about the 4G/3G data speeds.
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Uhh he used 4G for the test as stated by the network and IP's in the picture. He just took the picture while using WiFi.
Two things I've noticed on my phone.....one is all gingerbread roms with any radio i have tried slow my speed way down except the latest shiftao5p, its decent with it. With gingerbread roms i only get about 3-5 mbps but with any froyo rom including the very first build i get at least 15mbps.
Secondly, i bought a cheap extended battery off eBay and the cheap battery cover has a cheap antenna in it. It wouldn't pick up 4g most of the time. I put a small piece of aluminum foil on the antenna prongs and put the cover back on and that helped, it would at least pick up 4g after that. With the seidio battey and cover it picks up great. So watch hose cheap extended battery covers.
The speedtest app everyone's been using seems to have inadequate test servers. I routinely get ~15Mb/s from them. Using http://speakeasy.net/speedtest, I frequently see TWICE the speed. Let me upload some screenshots from my phone. Not sure if there's "proof" that it's from my phone though, but rest assured, it is. My home 'net speed is 6Mb/s so it ain't from that connection !!
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The speedtest app everyone's been using seems to have inadequate test servers. I routinely get ~15Mb/s from them. Using http://speakeasy.net/speedtest, I frequently see TWICE the speed. Let me upload some screenshots from my phone. Not sure if there's "proof" that it's from my phone though, but rest assured, it is. My home 'net speed is 6Mb/s so it ain't from that connection !!
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Holy crap! You are correct man! I didn't realize Verizon's network was so good here!
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Try different 'locations' from the Speakeasy site too.
FWIW, the 33Mb/s is the highest I've ever seen myself.
Yes, in fact just last week I got a Certified Like New replacement for my TBolt for this very problem. It was resolved immediately with the new device.
I had tried replacing sim card, replacing back door, replacing battery, flashing various roms and radios, and a full restore to stock with s-on; nothing worked for the defective device.
My 4g speed degraded gradually over a period of a few weeks and became dramatically worse and practically unusable in a span of a few days at the end of it.
When I got my CLN, I had both the replacement and my original unit side by side in the same spot in my house and ran speedtest on the same server using 4g, same sim card, same rom (Stock GB MR), same radio, no SD card, no installed apps.
The difference was black and white, the original was total **** (several times failing to even complete the test due to "network issues") and the replacement was hitting ~25Mbps down.
Long story short, the TB 4g hardware can spontaneously start to fail. It's for that reason I'm contemplating getting insurance once my mfg warranty wears out. I love the character of this phone but I think some of the engineering behind it might be third rate.
More details in this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1348220
mthe0ry said:
Long story short, the TB 4g hardware can spontaneously start to fail. It's for that reason I'm contemplating getting insurance once my mfg warranty wears out. I love the character of this phone but I think some of the engineering behind it might be third rate.
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Spontaneously start to fail... third rate engineering... Hope I don't run into that
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