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I recently got rid of my data plan for my TouchPro and downgraded to a Touch (Vogue, XV6900), since it does not require a data package. Then I realized I could no longer send/receive PIX/FLIX messaging because their MMS uses the data network.
They told me that if I have a smartphone I have to buy data package ($30 a month) to get pix/flix working, or I can pay for data by the MB, yet on regular phone (non-smartphones) pix/flix works fine, and you do not need to pay for data at all. Is this a limitation of Windows Mobile or what?
Is there anyone on Verizon right now, with a windows Mobile phone but without a data plan that can send/receive MMS free like dumbphones can?
Thanks.
one question for you, the xv6900 does not have wifi right? so if you dont have the data plan what do you plan to use your phone for?
nahid569 said:
one question for you, the xv6900 does not have wifi right? so if you dont have the data plan what do you plan to use your phone for?
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why does a phone need a data plan or wifi to be worth it? I had a dat aplan for over a year, and loved it, but it was not worth $30 a month just for the convenience of having my email checked every 5 minutes. I became a slave to it. I actually feel a lot better now that I have no data, and feel free-er. Here is what I currently use my phone for...
1. Calls
2. SMS/Texting
3. GPS via TomTom 7 (locks in under 30 seconds)
4. Transcriber feature everyday for instant translation of my writing into text. Very useful for night classes/school
5. Bluetooth syncing/audio streaming
6. MP3 Player
7. DivX/XviD/H264 Video Player
8. Xflib.com games
(the list goes on...)
Your question basically stated that a phone is useless without a data plan, and that simply does not hold true.
Now, can anyone answer my original question about forcing data on smartphones just to do simple PIX messaging? Is this true, or do I need to fix something on my phone?
I said nothing about getting a DATA PLAN, I said it should at least have WIFI, I mean a PDA is for organizational, email purpose. I personally dont have data so I hate it too but I have wifi.
Nonetheless, yes you need data to to MMS messaging. I am on verizon too and I have called them there is no way to do it any other way. So I gave up on MMS.
nahid569 said:
I said nothing about getting a DATA PLAN, I said it should at least have WIFI, I mean a PDA is for organizational, email purpose. I personally dont have data so I hate it too but I have wifi.
Nonetheless, yes you need data to to MMS messaging. I am on verizon too and I have called them there is no way to do it any other way. So I gave up on MMS.
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Again, this is your "opinion". Before this phone, I had a XV6800 and a TouchPro, both of which have Wifi, and I never once turned it on or used the WiFi in a year and a half of owning those phones. WiFi on PDAs is pointless to me, in my opinion.
We use our phones for different things, so what's wrong with that? You use it as an organizational tool, I use it as a 16GB flash drive, and a TomTom GPS. It was only $50, so if I had wanted a 16gb flash drive and a TomTom separately it would have easily been over $100, so why do you care so much how I use my phone?
wow nevermind, it doesnt matter. But your question has been aswered so mods close this thread please.
nahid569 said:
wow nevermind, it doesnt matter. But your question has been aswered so mods close this thread please.
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"wow nevermind"...? why the attitude? we use our phones for different purposes...why do you care so much how i used or don't use my smartphone? jeez, stop being such a commie about this.
also, don't order the mods around. they do their job just fine on here.
Hello All,
I'm hoping someone out there can help me answer this question because countless hours of searching on the internet so far haven't so now I will turn to the experts here. Here's a brief background of the situation.
I recently switched from a Palm Treo 700wx on a plan that included Phone as Modem on Sprint to an Sprint Htc Hero on an unlimited data plan that doesn't allow tethering. Unfortunately for those of us left that use tethering Sprint doesn't even allow one to pay extra for it. I know that that Hero is capable of tethering using PdaNet and I enjoyed using PdaNet on my Treo.
So now getting to the questions. I would like to know if anyone knows if cell phone companies either Sprint or any other provider can actually tell when your using your phone as a modem say as long as you don't abuse it by staying under 5gbs a month? Does anyone know how PdaNet actually works? In other words does it appear that your actually just downloading data to your phone when really your also transferring it to a laptop?
Hi, I searched for this but couldn't find anything. I'm wondering if it's possible to Bluetooth tether from my A2 to another phone (say Captivate). I saw a lot of info on how to tether to tablets, pc, and whatnot, but I couldn't find anything about tether between 2 phones.
I'm still in GB and not rooted. Thanks.
nahuelarg86 said:
Hi, I searched for this but couldn't find anything. I'm wondering if it's possible to Bluetooth tether from my A2 to another phone (say Captivate). I saw a lot of info on how to tether to tablets, pc, and whatnot, but I couldn't find anything about tether between 2 phones.
I'm still in GB and not rooted. Thanks.
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We need a lot or more info.
Like what kind of Bluetooth tethering, Cell data, personal data sharing, perifferral sharing. All of these can be done over BT, but some require root and changes to the files both phones to make that possible. So please tell us exactly what you are after before we can be of more help here. The more data you can provide here, the better help we might be able to give.
jimbridgman said:
We need a lot or more info.
Like what kind of Bluetooth tethering, Cell data, personal data sharing, perifferral sharing. All of these can be done over BT, but some require root and changes to the files both phones to make that possible. So please tell us exactly what you are after before we can be of more help here. The more data you can provide here, the better help we might be able to give.
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Thanks. I'm sorry for not putting more info. So, leaving technical stuff aside, basically, I want to give internet connection to my wife's phone. I have the A2 with a data plan, she has the captivate without a data plan, so she has to be in a wifi network to be able to connect. What I wanted is to be able to connect the phones over bluetooth and provide her with internet from my data plan, if we are out of the house.
nahuelarg86 said:
Thanks. I'm sorry for not putting more info. So, leaving technical stuff aside, basically, I want to give internet connection to my wife's phone. I have the A2 with a data plan, she has the captivate without a data plan, so she has to be in a wifi network to be able to connect. What I wanted is to be able to connect the phones over bluetooth and provide her with internet from my data plan, if we are out of the house.
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You will need to root the Atrix 2 and do the following on the Atrix2 to share your data plan, but I would not do it over Bluetooth, I would do it over Wifi instead, as 1) Bluetooth is not secure and 2) Bluetooth can have speed issues with data transfer rates, as Bluetooth is not meant for steady data transfer.
If you do it over wifi, and follow the below link you will be able to use the internal wifi sharing on the phone in settings --> Wifi --> enable wifi hotspot or similar.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1328588
jimbridgman said:
You will need to root the Atrix 2 and do the following on the Atrix2 to share your data plan, but I would not do it over Bluetooth, I would do it over Wifi instead, as 1) Bluetooth is not secure and 2) Bluetooth can have speed issues with data transfer rates, as Bluetooth is not meant for steady data transfer.
If you do it over wifi, and follow the below link you will be able to use the internal wifi sharing on the phone in settings --> Wifi --> enable wifi hotspot or similar.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1328588
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Thank you Jim. I did this before but I didn't want to use this method because I read that many people were being threatened by AT&T and that they were going to be charged for the hotspot service. I read that the bluetooth method is somewhat "legal" rather than disabling the entitlement check. My concern is mostly that I don't want to be charged by AT&T for this. I know people were worried because they had unlimited data plan. I just have the 2 gb plan, but still I wouldn't want to pay extra just for the tethering.
nahuelarg86 said:
Thank you Jim. I did this before but I didn't want to use this method because I read that many people were being threatened by AT&T and that they were going to be charged for the hotspot service. I read that the bluetooth method is somewhat "legal" rather than disabling the entitlement check. My concern is mostly that I don't want to be charged by AT&T for this. I know people were worried because they had unlimited data plan. I just have the 2 gb plan, but still I wouldn't want to pay extra just for the tethering.
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If you don't have the unlimited plan you have nothing to worry about. Those are the ONLY people that get those letters from AT&T, and you will have to share a good amount of data.
The Bluetooth sharing is also not legal, just that AT&T has not caught on to it yet, but it is not secure, if I was standing within 100 feet of you on the street, and you were sharing your data over Bluetooth, I could also "share" your data without you even noticing it, that is why the WiFi solution is preferable. I could also hack your WiFi connection, but it is much harder and not worth the time it will take with a phone to do so.
You will most likely not be targeted by AT&T since you have a set data plan, it is again ONLY people people on unlimited plans, and by the way I have an unlimited plan and I have been sharing my data with my tablet and laptops this way for YEARS, and have never gotten a letter about it. it depends how much data you use doing this with an unlimited plan ONLY.
I am real wary of sharing data over Bluetooth, as I personally have "hacked" Bluetooth connections like this in less than 3 seconds. Now I am not a typical person, since my job involves knowing these type of things, and how to protect my clients from things like this in their data centers, but again, I will highly push you away from Bluetooth unless you really know what you are doing and have the data security experience to know how to protect yourself.
jimbridgman said:
If you don't have the unlimited plan you have nothing to worry about. Those are the ONLY people that get those letters from AT&T, and you will have to share a good amount of data.
The Bluetooth sharing is also not legal, just that AT&T has not caught on to it yet, but it is not secure, if I was standing within 100 feet of you on the street, and you were sharing your data over Bluetooth, I could also "share" your data without you even noticing it, that is why the WiFi solution is preferable. I could also hack your WiFi connection, but it is much harder and not worth the time it will take with a phone to do so.
You will most likely not be targeted by AT&T since you have a set data plan, it is again ONLY people people on unlimited plans, and by the way I have an unlimited plan and I have been sharing my data with my tablet and laptops this way for YEARS, and have never gotten a letter about it. it depends how much data you use doing this with an unlimited plan ONLY.
I am real wary of sharing data over Bluetooth, as I personally have "hacked" Bluetooth connections like this in less than 3 seconds. Now I am not a typical person, since my job involves knowing these type of things, and how to protect my clients from things like this in their data centers, but again, I will highly push you away from Bluetooth unless you really know what you are doing and have the data security experience to know how to protect yourself.
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Well Jim, thanks a lot for taking the time to help me out! I didn't know that the targeted people were the ones with unlimited plans only (which seems understandable since it could be exploited a lot). I think I'll go back to the wifi hot spot then.
Thanks again! :good:
nahuelarg86 said:
Well Jim, thanks a lot for taking the time to help me out! I didn't know that the targeted people were the ones with unlimited plans only (which seems understandable since it could be exploited a lot). I think I'll go back to the wifi hot spot then.
Thanks again! :good:
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Honestly, one thing you might do, just for the heck of it, is to put a poll asking people if they have an unlimited data plan and have gotten a letter or if they have a tiered plan and have gotten a letter about sharing their data. Or if they are on an unlimited plan and share data and have never gotten a letter, and also those on a tiered plan that share that have never gotten a letter.
That might help ease your mind a little because, that is a poll that has not been done here in the Atrix2 forum yet, and might help more people than just yourself who might also wonder this same thing.
Will do!
Hello guys,
If this thread is in the wrong place then I do apologise, anyway...
I have a Nexus 7 and I want to be able to connect to the internet when I am not in a Wi-Fi area. To do this I use the hotspot feature on my iPhone. Does anyone know if this costs money?
Thanks in advanced
Rob
Like Sewrizer said you should call your carrier and check with them. I also heard of apps that will allow you to hide the fact that you are tethering... but not sure how effective that is.
For me I'm on an unlimited plan and the carrier doesn't care if I tether or not. I never understood why carriers charge more for tethering anyways, especially for limited plans. If I'm paying for a 10 GB plan, then I should be able to use that 10 GB however I want!
I know there are other posts that ask that question but nothing recent. So...
Here is what I have:
Verizon - w/unlimited data
HTC Rezound - unlocked, rooted, ROM'd, NO S-off
The Portable Wi-Fi hotspot function of my phone is working flawlessly right now. That is very important. I would appreciate any suggestions for a new phone. It doesn't have to be something currently out. It could be something coming down the road.
There are three requirements:
I must be able to enable the Portable Wi-Fi hotspot, and (able to enable, funny)
Acquiring this phone must not affect my unlimited data plan at Verizon, and
It must an Android phone
If anyone has recommendations concerning upgrading your phone at Verizon without jeopardizing an unlimited plan please add that as well.
Thank you in advance for reading my request.
sweet6s said:
I know there are other posts that ask that question but nothing recent. So...
Here is what I have:
Verizon - w/unlimited data
HTC Rezound - unlocked, rooted, ROM'd, NO S-off
The Portable Wi-Fi hotspot function of my phone is working flawlessly right now. That is very important. I would appreciate any suggestions for a new phone. It doesn't have to be something currently out. It could be something coming down the road.
There are three requirements:
I must be able to enable the Portable Wi-Fi hotspot, and (able to enable, funny)
Acquiring this phone must not affect my unlimited data plan at Verizon, and
It must an Android phone
If anyone has recommendations concerning upgrading your phone at Verizon without jeopardizing an unlimited plan please add that as well.
Thank you in advance for reading my request.
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your budget?
i dont think verizon does unlimited plans anymore. but if your fine with rooting a phone that your going to use for phone purposes you can wifi tether for free i think any phone would be fine for you, gonna be maybe a little more specific on what you want. i mean like screen size, battery life, Cpu.
pradeepxtremehacker said:
your budget?
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Oh, pretty much what ever it n3eeds to be. You know how it is. If it has to be had then I'll get it. Thanks...
Trozzul said:
i dont think verizon does unlimited plans anymore. but if your fine with rooting a phone that your going to use for phone purposes you can wifi tether for free i think any phone would be fine for you, gonna be maybe a little more specific on what you want. i mean like screen size, battery life, Cpu.
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I have an unlimited data plan. I am grandfathered in to it. Believe me, they would love to get that from me (and everyone else that has one). It's a matter of being very careful about what changes are made to your plan or phone as they are always looking for a way to screw ya out of it.
So, the requirements I mentioned above are still good. I need a new phone that I can root and enable the native Portable Wi-Fi hotspot so as to utilize my unlimited data plan. And, beyond that, if you or anyone else has any inside information, a new phone that wont require me to change my plan or otherwise jeopardize my current plan with unlimited data.
As for budget, it doesn't really matter. I can get what I need to get.
Thanks for the post...
sweet6s said:
I have an unlimited data plan. I am grandfathered in to it. Believe me, they would love to get that from me (and everyone else that has one). It's a matter of being very careful about what changes are made to your plan or phone as they are always looking for a way to screw ya out of it.
So, the requirements I mentioned above are still good. I need a new phone that I can root and enable the native Portable Wi-Fi hotspot so as to utilize my unlimited data plan. And, beyond that, if you or anyone else has any inside information, a new phone that wont require me to change my plan or otherwise jeopardize my current plan with unlimited data.
As for budget, it doesn't really matter. I can get what I need to get.
Thanks for the post...
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hmmm you might have to do a bunch of research into it then.
I just was in a similar situation...I went with an HTC one from Tmobile even though Im on ATT...covers mostly all the networks (I travel internationally a fair amount), once you unlock it and is easy to root. No complaints so far