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Hey guys,
I'm on ATT, and I was thinking about picking up an SGS2 soon. I was wondering, since my folks never use their upgrades (in a family account of 4), is it possible to upgrade their line, but never use the new sim card and instead use the phone for myself? Has anyone tried this that could possibly share their experience, and give a quick how-to?
Thanks.
If you go into the att store and just say you want to use their upgrade on your line they will do it no problem. As long as you are the primary account holder.
If you are doing it third party, or online you can upgrade their line with the new phone (activate required data plan if applicable) then put your sim card in the phone. You can deactivate the data plan on the other line whenever you want. You will need to call att to have them change your data from 3G to Faux G, but you will keep the same plan (cost and limit, even unlimited), it you won't get data on the GS II with the "3G" data provision.
I just went through this recently.
P.S. Do yourself a favor and get the original Galaxy S II (i777) instead of the skyrocket ... you'll thank me later.
Sent from my Galaxy S II (i777)
I believe number is attached to sim. Just pop your sim in and good to go. Just ask ATT, its not illegal to switch phones
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quarlow said:
If you go into the att store and just say you want to use their upgrade on your line they will do it no problem. As long as you are the primary account holder.
If you are doing it third party, or online you can upgrade their line with the new phone (activate required data plan if applicable) then put your sim card in the phone. You can deactivate the data plan on the other line whenever you want. You will need to call att to have them change your data from 3G to Faux G, but you will keep the same plan (cost and limit, even unlimited), it you won't get data on the GS II with the "3G" data provision.
I just went through this recently.
P.S. Do yourself a favor and get the original Galaxy S II (i777) instead of the skyrocket ... you'll thank me later.
Sent from my Galaxy S II (i777)
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Thanks so much! And I was definitely going for the i777; dev support is flourishing there.
"You will need to call att to have them change your data from 3G to Faux G, but you will keep the same plan (cost and limit, even unlimited), it you won't get data on the GS II with the "3G" data provision."
I'm not sure what you mean here. So when I put MY sim into the SGS 2, I should call att about my line, and have them change whatever you said?
I have an unlimited data plan - I was planning on just taking the newly bought SGS2 to the ATT store and have them transfer my unlimited plan to it. Would this work? What other options do I have to keep my unlimited plan?
Yeah they can do it in store, or call. Just tell them you got a sgs II and the data doesn't work, because it won't. They have to "provision" your line for 4G/HSPA+ data instead of 3G. You can still keep unlimited for $30. It shows up on your bill differently, you will see two pro-rated data plans with different names, but it will still total $30.
It will be easiest in store, as you can verify it works before you leave, but the phone reps can do it too.
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Just tell them you want to cross-upgrade. They will set it all up for you. If you do it from a retailer (Costco, Bestbuy...), they will set up the upgraded line and then you will call AT&T after to cancel the data plan associated with the upgrade and switch the IMEI to your line - since they need to change the data plan to the 4g variant.
When you put your current sim in the SGSII, network will work but data won't. That's because the data plan on the Captivate isn't compatible with the SGSII. I found that out last week
Careful though as some places like Amazon require you to sign a contract with them as well stating that if you cancel any part of the plan or use the phone on another line, they hit you with early term fees (I think it's just Amazon actually).
Oh yeah, and the SGSII is an awesome phone!
qwertyaas said:
Just tell them you want to cross-upgrade. They will set it all up for you. If you do it from a retailer (Costco, Bestbuy...), they will set up the upgraded line and then you will call AT&T after to cancel the data plan associated with the upgrade and switch the IMEI to your line - since they need to change the data plan to the 4g variant.
When you put your current sim in the SGSII, network will work but data won't. That's because the data plan on the Captivate isn't compatible with the SGSII. I found that out last week
Careful though as some places like Amazon require you to sign a contract with them as well stating that if you cancel any part of the plan or use the phone on another line, they hit you with early term fees (I think it's just Amazon actually).
Oh yeah, and the SGSII is an awesome phone!
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Yeah I figure Amazon and Wirefly are off limits for this. They require the line to stay with the data plan for 3-6 months, depending on the retailer.
Thanks for your help!
Grea thread ! Some more explanation..please
Ok. I am not fully understanding this great switcheroo.
Wont you still have the other non-SGSII still active and paying for it in the family plan.
Can someone please explain how this goes step-by-step? I mean what if I am not yet eligible for an upgrade, can I just add a SGSII line this way, and turn off the other phone>>>??
Step-by-step.......puhlesaseeeeee!
EDIT: Hmmmmmmmmmm......after re-reading it looks it means you have to be eligible for an upgrade to do this? So since I do not have an upgrade option I am just getting excited for nothing ????
You can add a line for a new phone, such as SGS II, and then use that phone for your line. But, you cannot cancel your existing line until the contract ends, which would be ~3 months after you are eligible for an upgrade. You can cancel the dataplan you are forced to add if you add another line, but you are stuck paying $9.99 + taxes and fees, a month for that line for 24 months. So it adds up costing $250+ over the next 2 years.
You can call and try to talk your way into a early upgrade. If you are nice, and mention considering ending your service they may let you upgrade early for new price plus $30. Several others have said that worked for them. But, it may depend on how close you are to an upgrade. If you got a new phone 6 months ago you may be stuck for a while.
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quarlow said:
You can add a line for a new phone, such as SGS II, and then use that phone for your line. But, you cannot cancel your existing line until the contract ends, which would be ~3 months after you are eligible for an upgrade. You can cancel the dataplan you are forced to add if you add another line, but you are stuck paying $9.99 + taxes and fees, a month for that line for 24 months. So it adds up costing $250+ over the next 2 years.
You can call and try to talk your way into a early upgrade. If you are nice, and mention considering ending your service they may let you upgrade early for new price plus $30. Several others have said that worked for them. But, it may depend on how close you are to an upgrade. If you got a new phone 6 months ago you may be stuck for a while.
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Thanks quarlow..........I hit the button !
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Thanks quarlow..........I hit the button !
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YW
I hope you find a way to get your new phone.
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I did this with an iPhone 4S (my upgrade's not up until this spring, the contract outlasted my patience with the Samsuck Craptivate). If you go to a CORPORATE AT&T store, it's no big deal to do. The lady there handled the whole thing for me and I was up and running in no time...
Alright, so I went ahead and got the SGS 2 from Radioshack because they had a 50 dollar deal for Black Friday. I looked at the receipt though, and it says that "If the Device and its wireless service agreement are not continuously in service for 90 days after the original purchase date and the Device is not returned to the Retailer, I agree that the Retailer may charge my credit card an unreturned merchandise fee equal to the Device's Non Activated Price minus the activated price I paid".
I bought it with no sim card for my mom's line. I have the primary line, and I was wondering if it's still okay for my to just insert my sim in the phone to use (would I be charged the above stated fee?). The phone hasn't had any sim card put it in yet at all. Is there any way to get around this? Does anyone have any experience with upgrading like this through Radioshack?
EDIT: Just talked to an ATT rep and he told me that I would not incur any fees/charges for switching equipment, and proceeded to do so for me. I'm still sort of anxious though, don't want to be charged a ridiculous amount for doing this. I saved the chat as a PDF (talked to an online rep) just in case. Anyone want to chime in with an opinion of what I should do?
ri3tn said:
Alright, so I went ahead and got the SGS 2 from Radioshack because they had a 50 dollar deal for Black Friday. I looked at the receipt though, and it says that "If the Device and its wireless service agreement are not continuously in service for 90 days after the original purchase date and the Device is not returned to the Retailer, I agree that the Retailer may charge my credit card an unreturned merchandise fee equal to the Device's Non Activated Price minus the activated price I paid".
I bought it with no sim card for my mom's line. I have the primary line, and I was wondering if it's still okay for my to just insert my sim in the phone to use (would I be charged the above stated fee?). The phone hasn't had any sim card put it in yet at all. Is there any way to get around this? Does anyone have any experience with upgrading like this through Radioshack?
EDIT: Just talked to an ATT rep and he told me that I would not incur any fees/charges for switching equipment, and proceeded to do so for me. I'm still sort of anxious though, don't want to be charged a ridiculous amount for doing this. I saved the chat as a PDF (talked to an online rep) just in case. Anyone want to chime in with an opinion of what I should do?
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They are just trying to prevent you from using your upgrade to get a new phone, then immediately terminating the contract and selling the phone. As long as you are actually using it on your plan, you're all good.
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They are just trying to prevent you from using your upgrade to get a new phone, then immediately terminating the contract and selling the phone. As long as you are actually using it on your plan, you're all good.
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Careful, some stores (Amazon) will charge you an early term fee if you move the phone to another line within 6 months.
Call Sprint store. Tell me they can't activate a new phone I have to purchase from them. Tell them the phone is unlocked and works on Sprint they said they don't know how to do it.
Call second Sprint store ask for the IMEI number and tell me they can't find a record for it, cant activate it, they are busy sorry goodbye.
Call Corporate office tell me yes I can activate it but this phone does not qualify for a month to month service and even though it's unlocked I will be locked into a 2 year contract as a new customer.
Does that sound right? I only have 14 days to decide if I want to stick with the service? How could I be hit with a penalty for leaving if they have given me nothing up front?
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Call Sprint store. Tell me they can't activate a new phone I have to purchase from them. Tell them the phone is unlocked and works on Sprint they said they don't know how to do it.
Call second Sprint store ask for the IMEI number and tell me they can't find a record for it, cant activate it, they are busy sorry goodbye.
Call Corporate office tell me yes I can activate it but this phone does not qualify for a month to month service and even though it's unlocked I will be locked into a 2 year contract as a new customer.
Does that sound right?
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And yet, you still want to be with Sprint. I'm so lost.
From what I've heard, you can't bring your own phone to sprint's month to month service. You can if you sign a contract though, but you knew that already.
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Call Sprint store. Tell me they can't activate a new phone I have to purchase from them. Tell them the phone is unlocked and works on Sprint they said they don't know how to do it.
Call second Sprint store ask for the IMEI number and tell me they can't find a record for it, cant activate it, they are busy sorry goodbye.
Call Corporate office tell me yes I can activate it but this phone does not qualify for a month to month service and even though it's unlocked I will be locked into a 2 year contract as a new customer.
Does that sound right? I only have 14 days to decide if I want to stick with the service? How could I be hit with a penalty for leaving if they have given me nothing up front?
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This is your chance to run far away. There are tons of other services that provide better pricing and service than Sprint, unless you're in that 5% of the country that Sprint would get better service, somehow.
It's all because of my job. I work in a large concrete building where there is ZERO AT&T service.
Verizon and Boost Mobile work well, so since Boost uses Sprint towers I was looking to join them.
Can you activate this phone on Boost Mobile? I need another suggestion along those lines.
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It's all because of my job. I work in a large concrete building where there is ZERO AT&T service.
Verizon and Boost Mobile work well, so since Boost uses Sprint towers I was looking to join them.
Can you activate this phone on Boost Mobile? I need another suggestion along those lines.
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Nope. Boost requires you to buy a phone from them. Why not just use Ting?
http://forums.androidcentral.com/google-nexus-5/328466-nexus-5-boostmobile.html
aooga said:
Nope. Boost requires you to buy a phone from them. Why not just use Ting?
http://forums.androidcentral.com/google-nexus-5/328466-nexus-5-boostmobile.html
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Never even heard of it lol. Going to look into it now.
Try ting
Hand76 said:
Call Sprint store. Tell me they can't activate a new phone I have to purchase from them. Tell them the phone is unlocked and works on Sprint they said they don't know how to do it.
Call second Sprint store ask for the IMEI number and tell me they can't find a record for it, cant activate it, they are busy sorry goodbye.
Call Corporate office tell me yes I can activate it but this phone does not qualify for a month to month service and even though it's unlocked I will be locked into a 2 year contract as a new customer.
Does that sound right? I only have 14 days to decide if I want to stick with the service? How could I be hit with a penalty for leaving if they have given me nothing up front?
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If you want to use the Sprint network with your Nexus 5, try signing up with Ting.com (a Sprint MVNO). They're very responsive to users and prices are much better than Sprint's. You'll need to order a Sprint SIM from them for $10 unless you can pick one up elsewhere.
It will work on sprint. You have to get a LTE sim card from them. Do not let them tell you otherwise. That's all you need. Pop it in and reboot. I'd call sprint and ask them to send you one.
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Would they have to add the MEID for 1x/EVDO or all Nexus 5s in their database already? A prepaid option like Ting may be a good way to go but if you could figure it out how to flash to Page Plus that would be cool too.
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Are you a masochist? If I were you I would run as far away as possible from Sprint. You said you don't get AT&T coverage at work. What about T-Mobile?
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Would they have to add the MEID for 1x/EVDO or all Nexus 5s in their database already? A prepaid option like Ting may be a good way to go but if you could figure it out how to flash to Page Plus that would be cool too.
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I was wondering that myself. If T-Mobile has good 3/4g in your area it will be a great experience on this phone.
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Hand76 said:
Call Sprint store. Tell me they can't activate a new phone I have to purchase from them. Tell them the phone is unlocked and works on Sprint they said they don't know how to do it.
Call second Sprint store ask for the IMEI number and tell me they can't find a record for it, cant activate it, they are busy sorry goodbye.
Call Corporate office tell me yes I can activate it but this phone does not qualify for a month to month service and even though it's unlocked I will be locked into a 2 year contract as a new customer.
Does that sound right? I only have 14 days to decide if I want to stick with the service? How could I be hit with a penalty for leaving if they have given me nothing up front?
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none of that is correct. i assume you have a 32gig model. you must remove the last number from the imei and the system will recognize it. you can go on the new month to month framily plan since you are bringing your own device. bringing your own device is the same as purchasing one through the new easy pay program (where you have no contract, just obligated to pay phone off).
Hey and you can join my framily while your at it. Your bill would be $40 a or lower at the base. PM me for details. ?
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Hand76 said:
Call second Sprint store ask for the IMEI number and tell me they can't find a record for it, cant activate it, they are busy sorry goodbye.
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You didn't buy your N5 from T-mo by any chance, did you? There have been issues with activating N5 purchased from T-mo, onto Sprint because Sprint didn't have those IMEIs loaded into their system (phones purchased from google had that issue for the first few days after launch, but it was quickly addressed. But phones purchased from T-mo reportedly still have the issue)
Been thinking about picking up one if these as a backup. The problem is that these phones can only be activated on postpaid verizon after 6 months of being active on prepaid. Sort of a deal dealer. Can this limitation be passed? Is there anyone who knows of a way to bypass this and just activate straight on my share everything plan?
Anyone?
I would like more information on this too.
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since my GSIII decided to commit suicide and I didn't want to spend too much money to upgrade devices when all the new flagships are about to be released, I got myself a moto g.
Good news is that you can activate it directly onto a postpaid plan. I didn't give it a prepaid number to begin with, so I don't know if that would affect anything, but if your phone has no number, just activate it through *228. It failed the first time when programming, but the second time around it worked.
rawrgh said:
since my GSIII decided to commit suicide and I didn't want to spend too much money to upgrade devices when all the new flagships are about to be released, I got myself a moto g.
Good news is that you can activate it directly onto a postpaid plan. I didn't give it a prepaid number to begin with, so I don't know if that would affect anything, but if your phone has no number, just activate it through *228. It failed the first time when programming, but the second time around it worked.
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thank you for the response about this... can anyone else confirm this?
i called a verizon store earlier and was, of course, told that no you could not and it had to be on the 6 months, etc...
so if i pickup a moto g (verizon capable) from best buy, for $100, and just buy the phone and leave (they will let me?) i can then just *228 from the phone itself and port it onto my account somehow?
currently using an iphone 4 on verizon.
cyburke said:
thank you for the response about this... can anyone else confirm this?
i called a verizon store earlier and was, of course, told that no you could not and it had to be on the 6 months, etc...
so if i pickup a moto g (verizon capable) from best buy, for $100, and just buy the phone and leave (they will let me?) i can then just *228 from the phone itself and port it onto my account somehow?
currently using an iphone 4 on verizon.
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My process with getting the phone was walking into target and picking one up for $100, *228 with phone number you want to transfer and the account password (had to search for that) and it activated on the second try.
I most definitely went from numberless to postpaid plan.
Maybe I got lucky because the guy who got the phone for me wasn't the usual guy who takes care of phones. YMMV
AshtonTS said:
Been thinking about picking up one if these as a backup. The problem is that these phones can only be activated on postpaid verizon after 6 months of being active on prepaid. Sort of a deal dealer. Can this limitation be passed? Is there anyone who knows of a way to bypass this and just activate straight on my share everything plan?
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I can confirm.
I just bought a Moto G from Best Buy. I turn on the phone, killed the activation. Because I have a business account, I logged into the web, put in the ESN number. Once I did this *228 and it activated with my number and 3g.
Groovy!
thats two confirms. One more and i sell my soul and gs3 for a G!
What is the account password. You mean to log into the online account?
Best Buy Verizon Moto G Prepaid - Activated Successfully on Contract
Another data point for a successful activation on a contract plan. Picked up the phone from Best Buy, bypassed the activation screen, dialed *228, and success! Both voice and data are functioning. Hopefully it's a permanent replacement.
For anyone who did this, did you have an old plan without data, and if so, did it force you to change your plan?
I want the moderator to ban me.
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For anyone who did this, did you have an old plan without data, and if so, did it force you to change your plan?
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I currently have an unlimited data plan and didn't have to make any changes to use the Moto G.
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I currently have an unlimited data plan and didn't have to make any changes to use the Moto G.
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Well the person I'm trying to get this for doesn't have any data plan and uses an old plan from years ago and doesn't want to change. Sometimes the stupid carriers detect you went from a feature phone to a smartphone and tell you you have to upgrade your data plan or else.
Hope it works.
Make sure the network fine.
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Well the person I'm trying to get this for doesn't have any data plan and uses an old plan from years ago and doesn't want to change. Sometimes the stupid carriers detect you went from a feature phone to a smartphone and tell you you have to upgrade your data plan or else.
Hope it works.
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That I'm not sure about. Verizon may very well be able to tell if a newly activated phone is a "smart" phone and requires a data plan. There might be better/cheaper options for phones without data plans.
I just bought one for my Dad, His S3 crapped out and went to try and activate this moto g on my account which is not prepaid and it wouldnt do it not even ask for the #, so I called *22898 for prepaid activation and it says its LOCKED and to return it to the store. Wal-Mart must had not scanned it properly. So I`ll go back get that fixed and hope it can activate cause he can upgrade in 4 months but Verizon wont Budge so no point and buying a used phone for a lot of money for just 4 months.
Update: Got it exchanged, Dialed *228 activated the first time
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Update: Got it exchanged, Dialed *228 activated the first time
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Glad to hear it worked out for you. I was a little worried when I bought my phone. The clerk at Walmart had to scan it quite a few times. I was worried it wasn't going to get unlocked, like yours.
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Heres a small video of it being activated:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4kCBMV5tOw
Morning all!
I have a Verizon grandfathered unlimited data plan with one line which I curently have an S3 on. Over the weekend I bought a working S5 for $80 bucks. Guy said there was no issues with verizon. He even left sim card in it and I discovered it still has service. Well doing a little poking around I found in the 'my verizon' app that the phone upgrade eligibility is 02-2016.
I have an old verizon s3 thats dead with clean meid. Could that be used to swap with the current s5 to release the s5 from contract so that I could move it into my unlimited data account?
Or is there a better way to handle this? I get the impresion the previous owner is just going to abandon the verizon account so im not worried what happens on that end. Only that I have a clear phone that dosnt mess up my unlimited data.
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Morning all!
I have a Verizon grandfathered unlimited data plan with one line which I curently have an S3 on. Over the weekend I bought a working S5 for $80 bucks. Guy said there was no issues with verizon. He even left sim card in it and I discovered it still has service. Well doing a little poking around I found in the 'my verizon' app that the phone upgrade eligibility is 02-2016.
I have an old verizon s3 thats dead with clean meid. Could that be used to swap with the current s5 to release the s5 from contract so that I could move it into my unlimited data account?
Or is there a better way to handle this? I get the impresion the previous owner is just going to abandon the verizon account so im not worried what happens on that end. Only that I have a clear phone that dosnt mess up my unlimited data.
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All you really have to do is put your Sim in the new phone and everything will be fine.
The only way there could be a problem is if the guy you bought the phone from is still under contract and he stops paying the bill. Then they will blacklist the phone, but that won't do anything to your unlimited account, the phone just won't work any more.
I have zero expectation that he is going to continue paying the bill. That's why I had the idea of replacing the contract phone with an already dead one then I wouldn't loose out.
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I have zero expectation that he is going to continue paying the bill. That's why I had the idea of replacing the contract phone with an already dead one then I wouldn't loose out.
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Well if his phone is paid for through contract completion or he just bought it out right, then you should be fine. I don't believe they have the right to blacklist a phone that's completely paid for in one way or another.
However, if it's not paid for and he stops paying the bill, there will be a problem.
If you put an old phone on his contract, I doubt that will help you. I would think they will blacklist the phone that's under contract regardless, because they have no right to blacklist your old phone.
That is just what seems logical to me, I don't know their procedure on this for fact.
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However, if it's not paid for and he stops paying the bill, there will be a problem. .
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This is what I'm expecting to happen.
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If you put an old phone on his contract, I doubt that will help you. I would think they will blacklist the phone that's under contract regardless, because they have no right to blacklist your old phone.
That is just what seems logical to me, I don't know their procedure on this for fact.
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I do believe you can swap phones while under contract. Ie if this S5 was dropped in water and died, I could obtain another verizon phone that wasn't under contract and swap the phones. It would seem to me then that would release the S5 from the contract but hold the S3 liable. If he defaulted on the contract then the S3 would get blacklisted because that's what's currently in the account under the contract. Or would they still blacklist the original phone even though its not in the account anymore? Anyone know the answer for certain?
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This is what I'm expecting to happen.
I do believe you can swap phones while under contract. Ie if this S5 was dropped in water and died, I could obtain another verizon phone that wasn't under contract and swap the phones. It would seem to me then that would release the S5 from the contract but hold the S3 liable. If he defaulted on the contract then the S3 would get blacklisted because that's what's currently in the account under the contract. Or would they still blacklist the original phone even though its not in the account anymore? Anyone know the answer for certain?
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you can defiantly swap phones on an account, weather they are paid for or not. i have done it many times. there is no issue, until you dont pay the bill.
i see your point with putting the old phone on, and you may be right. however, i just dont see how they could legally blacklist a phone that no money is owed on. i could be wrong though.
since you already bought the phone, i dont see where you have much options really, regardless of an accurate answer to your question.
just put his sim in your old phone, which will register it to his account. then you will just have to wait it out for a while and hope the s5 dont stop working.
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since you already bought the phone, i dont see where you have much options really, regardless of an accurate answer to your question.
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Thank you for the input. If I knew for certain what the answer would be = I want a note 3or4 but the S5 will work great for the time being since $ is so tight. If the phone is going to get blacklisted with Verizon then it goes to the girlfriend to replace her iphone on Straight Talk. If I can get it cleared through verizon then it will be mine and the girlfriend gets my old S3....Hmm will I be able to move it to Straight Talk if blacklisted on verizon?
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Thank you for the input. If I knew for certain what the answer would be = I want a note 3or4 but the S5 will work great for the time being since $ is so tight. If the phone is going to get blacklisted with Verizon then it goes to the girlfriend to replace her iphone on Straight Talk. If I can get it cleared through verizon then it will be mine and the girlfriend gets my old S3....Hmm will I be able to move it to Straight Talk if blacklisted on verizon?
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sorry, i dont know if there is a universal blacklisting that crosses carrier lines.
I mean to get the phone unlocked so I can move it to straight talk.
Just had a chat with Verizon and you are correct. The phone that originally started his contract would get blacklisted.
Is it possible. I don't really need the second number. While it may be a nice feature to have. I don't really see myself using the watch without the phone being near me. I just want to use the watch in conjuction with my phone.
It would be nice if we could use the watch without the phone, ON THE SAME NUMBER instead. But i'm good with the BT connection.
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Is it possible. I don't really need the second number. While it may be a nice feature to have. I don't really see myself using the watch without the phone being near me. I just want to use the watch in conjuction with my phone.
It would be nice if we could use the watch without the phone, ON THE SAME NUMBER instead. But i'm good with the BT connection.
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Dude I was in the same situation. I got mixed feedback from many different verizon employees. This is what I did, you need to buy the device full retail price. Add on the data plan and monthly line fee. If they do not activate it for you do not accept the activation, skip it. It will never show up on your account as long as it is not activated. If you did or they activated it you need to call in and cancel the service. You should not get an early termination fee because you bought the device at full retail. Luckily they did not activate it for me so I will only activate if it is an emergency. It is kind of an indirect safety feature. Now this is solely based on the feedback I got from a Verizon chat rep. I do not know if this will work the same for other providers. I disabled 3g connectivity completely and will never touch that setting again. The only thing is if I restart the phone it asks if I want to activate it, I just skip it every time. I know it does not show up on the account because I verified with Verizon and they said nothing is on their records. The rep also told me that they it should not be required to to use a data plan for the 3g device but the local Verizon store and website say otherwise. I needed to speak to a manager to buy the device because I told the employee that I was going to cancel the plan right after I purchased the device. He said we can't sell you the device if those are your intentions because that hurts us. I said that is not my problem let me speak to a manager. I wanted the 3g device for the speaker for call forwarding, Qualcomm processor, and bigger battery. In the end I got what I wanted. I hope this helps people trying to do the same thing.
The device is already activated. And shows up on my bill as a second number.
I don't care if it hurts verizon. I could have bought the watch for teh same price from bestbuy or whatever and they would have never known i had it.
Except, i got a $50 discount by buying the watch with the phone at the same time through verizon. $5 a month isn't going to kill me, It's just the idea of paying Verizon MORE then what we should be paying as it is. I mean, DANG. i can get sprint for half the cost i'm paying verizon. And have UNLIMITED services. The only reason i have verizon in the first place is because i'm a traveling man. Once i get a local job, I'm back with sprint.
Thanks for the reply.
snowwy66 said:
The device is already activated. And shows up on my bill as a second number.
I don't care if it hurts verizon. I could have bought the watch for teh same price from bestbuy or whatever and they would have never known i had it.
Except, i got a $50 discount by buying the watch with the phone at the same time through verizon. $5 a month isn't going to kill me, It's just the idea of paying Verizon MORE then what we should be paying as it is. I mean, DANG. i can get sprint for half the cost i'm paying verizon. And have UNLIMITED services. The only reason i have verizon in the first place is because i'm a traveling man. Once i get a local job, I'm back with sprint.
Thanks for the reply.
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I hear you man. Best Buy doesn't offer the Verizon Gear S2 3g yet. So you did not pay for the device at full retail? That's where they got you I think. I'm sure you can complain by calling verizon technical support.
The issue here is the eSIM. The 3G version has no SIM card, but instead the equivalent functionality built-in.
Because of this, the 3G version is only offered through carriers at the moment, because the eSIM must be flashed by Samsung or the carrier to bind it to the carrier. There is no consumer means for doing this, hence the 3G watch is not be sold independent from a carrier.
The eSIM, once programmed for a carrier, can not be changed to a different carrier (of course, this isn't TECHNICALLY accurate, it absolutely can, but this is a business model policy). So, again, no generic version.
I doubt there ever will be.
Just wondering why didn't you just buy the non cellular version if you have no interest in using that feature? Would have saved you money, and the headache of worrying if the line ever gets activated
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Just wondering why didn't you just buy the non cellular version if you have no interest in using that feature? Would have saved you money, and the headache of worrying if the line ever gets activated
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Likely for the speaker, bigger battery and better processor.
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jlczl said:
Likely for the speaker, bigger battery and better processor.
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Thats exactly why I got it. Mostly for the call forwarding feature. I got the bluetooth version for christmas and thought it was really dumb that there is no speaker included. So I returned it to get the 3g version. Luckily they did not activate it for me
i didn't know about the 3g differences. And apparently that's the difference. I thought i was just buying a second gen watch. For $250. Compared to bestbuy $300.
From what you guys are saying, apparently there's more to the specs then what i've been finding on the internet. Even bestbuy isn't listing the full specs. I'm guessing they aren't selling the 3g version.
I did my researching before deciding to buy. But apparently i didn't do enough research.
I guess my watch is on the payment plan with the phone. If i want to ditch the second phone number. I'll have to pay full retail to which i was quoted $500. The guy was speaking so fast he was more mumble jumble then plain and clear. So i have no idea on the actual price. I didn't even see the things listed on verizons websight.
I was also on the fence about extra plan for $5 or classic version. Now I actually was in situations when my phone was either in my car or left home and I was able answer phone call on my wrist watch.
Also I believe that esim can be either reprogrammed or reused by provider as long there is not active reactivation lok on the device.
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jlczl said:
Likely for the speaker, bigger battery and better processor.
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Can't find anywhere what the difference in specs is for the 3g version.