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Hi everybody,
Got myself a brand new Touch Pro last monday and really love the thing. However, after playing with it for the past few days, it somehow stopped reacting to stylus take outs. Both when in sleep mode, as in a call. It won't wake up or pull up the notes application, respectively. I didn't drop the device or anything. Just installed some apps.
Anyone experiencing the same thing? Or does someone know of a certain option or registry entry that I can check?
Thanx! Scott
EDIT:
I tackled the problem! For anyone else experiencing this problem:
There is a tiny switch located at the top of the cut out for the stylus. Check whether this switch is obstructed. Mine got stuck under the casing of the device. Maybe this can happen randomly when inserting the stylus.
If anyone of you have had a similar problem, please report it here. If it is common, we should report it to HTC as well.
Scott
see and i thought the pro didn't wake up like the diamond does. now realize u have to take it fully out to wake.
Out of curiosity how did you clean it out? The only way I can see to do it is to pull the phone apart or just blow backwards down where the stylus rests.
I've had the stylus jam up inside the casing on me a few times. Quite possibly the battery sitting funny inside the case, a guy on whirlpool mentioned it.
ugh this happened to me today... how did you fix yours?... i don't really see where the dam trigger for this thing is
How to fix
I fixed mine using a toothpick and a flashlight. Use the flashlight to shine into the stylus silo. When you look closely you can see a tiny switch about 1cm upwards from the bottom of the device.
The switch roughly looks like this: _/|_ When you insert the stylus it "rolls" in a upward direction. Mine got stuck at the top of the square hole where the switch normally points out.
I carefully used the toothpick to pull it back out. I carefully pushed it in a little bit and made a downward movement. It popped right out to its normal position.
I hope this helped!
Scott
I'm having the same problem... Can someone post a photo so I know what to look for?
Same problem here, fixed by flicking the switch a couple of times.
Quick idea, maybe install the program: Gyrator2.
If it's not a sensor problem, I believe it might help since it's one of the specified rule and the program is quite useful anyway
This problem will happen if you jab your stylus into the slot without being careful. It won't touch it's switch. So it'll slide to the side. I'd suggest you point a flashlight at it and find out.
I found this thread when looking up how to solve my stylus issue, out of the blue it has been jamming up when I tried inserting the stylus in and out. Almost as if the stylus got thicker during the day, a very tight fit. Read this thread and got a clue that it may have something to do with that switch.
If I insert my stylus in at a angle it glides in and out as it is suppose to. If do it without paying attention like i do 90% of the time I will jam. I have have a look at this switch once I get home.
Thanks
Well, this forum has saved me yet again.
I was actually playing around with Gyrator when my stylus suddenly got really, really hard to move in and out. I had just deleted the stylus events in the app once I figured out what was key-locking my device, when on the next stylus insert it got really stiff. For a moment I thought maybe the app make some magical change to the magnet or something and so I uninstalled, tried it, then reinstalled gyrator.
I put an LED flashlight up to the little hole about an inch (5 cm) down the stylus shaft and then used a needle to play around in there. I can't say I have a clear idea where the switch is exactly, but I figured it was toward the body of the device. I finally saw something move and then tried the stylus. It worked a lot better then next two times, then suddenly it's again snapping in and out easily.
Thanks to the OP!
photos of switch
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I'm having the same problem... Can someone post a photo so I know what to look for?
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My stylus got super sticky all of a sudden (to the point i was scared i would break it if i pulled any harder to get it out). I couldn't figure it out. Then i read this thread and found out about the stylus switch. My switch was not aligned straight in the silo. All i had to do was find the switch and bend it back into place with a toothpick. I had some success bending it back with the stylus itself, but it is far enough back in the silo that it's hard to get good contact with the stylus point. And it quickly got stuck after a few inserts/removals. But after i bent it into place with the toothpick, it has been fine for the last few hours.
I've attached 2 photos of the stylus silo (the picture titled switch2 is better), in which you can just barely make out the switch. The pictures are taken with the Touch Pro face down. The switch in the pictures is in the correct position. It should jut straight out into the silo. If it is coming in at an angle, it may be making your stylus stick. Or it may not be registering (and thereby not waking up your Raphael) when you remove your stylus. You need to shine a light down the silo, or you'll never see it. It was extremely hard to get the photos because the natural light wouldn't illuminate down the silo, and the flash had to be aligned just right so that it would bounce back to the lens of my camera. But it's the best i could do.
Stylus prob
I am having the same problem, and have been unable to resolve it yet, if anyone can document exactly what they did to fix it I would be grateful.
Twiddling about with a needle is kind of hard to visualise.
Thanks
A|C
Thanks for the tips and the pics pokeycd.. i was scared that i had damaged my magnetic sensor but ur pics and info were just great and my stylus locks in and comes out perfectly now. thanks a lot.
I had the problem too. I got that cellphone and thought that it was suposed to be that hard to insert that stylus. Then i read this thread and watched a little closer and i found that switch beeing stuck. I first repositioned it with a toothpick. Then it worked again, but i need to be careful inserting that stylus (inserting it with an angle) else it will get stuck again. But later on i realized that i can easily reposition that switch with that stylus just by inserting it at an angle. (Angle). I hope u can figure out how you can fix that.
A picture of the switch (it's not that sharp but it will let u guess where you have to look for):
Switch for the Stylus
I hope it will help.
I have same problem too. I buy today Touch Pro. I think that magnet sensor is not OK.
Thanks to all for solved this problem
I think this problem is for all Raphaels..
There is no magnet sensor as far as i think. The magnet is just for keeping the stylus in the phone. There is a 'machanical' sensor (as you can see on the photos above). That sensor is either sticking in the case or is beeing stuck by inserting the stylus without caution.
I have this problem too I think...My stylus now slides in and out of the device without a problem, but if I look in Gyrator it always thinks my stylus is in. Despite all of the pics and advice above, I can't seem to locate / unstick / bend the sensor back to its correct position.
My switch came out
I was having this problem with the super-tight stylus on my Fuze, and after taking it in and out a few times (which I wish I hadn't done), I did this-
Take out the battery and shine an LED pocket flashlight into the opening of the silo where the batter sits, shining it back towards the opening.
I saw the tiny black lever that senses when the stylus is in or out. With my Fuze positioned with the silo on top, screen on left, battery area on right, this little lever was on the bottom right.
I took a toothpick and could position it so it stuck straight up into the center. I tried to move it around a few times, but then it came off and fell out! (came off or broke off)
Here are some pictures of the little piece and the stylus opening after it came out.
It doesn't look like the plastic is broken... anyone know if it can be fixed?
I have a design flaw on mine
I think I have a design flaw: instead of the switch and the casing for it, mine shows a cavity with what I thought was a metal sensor. I think the whole swith thing is missing on mine. Always has been.
I've noticed that the slider functionality of my phone, possibly due to user-abuse, is starting to slide off the rails*. I've also noticed that the top is beginning to extend over the bottom... on the side with the PTT button. Is this my fault, or is everyone else having the same problem.
*To define: hold the phone in your hand, and place your thumb on the bottom-left corner of the top "slider-part", (could someone give me the word that should be used in place of "slider-part") push toward the right... Does the bottom, of the top, of your phone slide out by itself? Mine only moves about an 1/8th of an inch, but I'm curious if everyone shares this problem as well.
My phone slides out about the same 1/8 as yours, but i think it was like that even when it was brand new.
Yes it does happen to me, nothing perfect...it's just the sliding mechanism moving on one side and not the other..
I have the same movement on mine. My fuze is 7 weeks old, I use the sliding mechanism, on average, 3 times a day.
When I received my phone I double checked the sliding mechanism - the same movement was present when new. Based on other posts, this appears to be normal.
Other than that, my fuze is doing well. I purchased the ATT store cover (rubberized cover in two pieces) which is really good (although expensive ). I do find that the rubberized cover makes it difficult to put into my trouser pocket, thus I tend to carry it everywhere I go...
I've had that issue since I got it in Nov last year. Other than that, it's working and looking perfectly well. I should also note that I have an invisible shield that's working wonders for the phone. With it installed, I get a better grip on the phone (doesn't feel like I'm going to drop it), obviously no scratches, and fingerprint issues are far less severe.
My first phone slid off the rails too so I called AT&T and they sent me a reconditioned one. Now the slider on the new one actually pulls away from the main body. So I called AT&T again and they are sending me a another phone. Fingers crossed......
The play in the rails seems normal... I do about 4,500 texts a month... so slide open, slide closed over and over again... still holding strong had the Touch Pro since November of 08
My first kaiser (tilt) had that overhang when closed. It bothered me a lot. AT&T wouldn't exchange it, so I superglued a thin, tiny square of vinyl to the bumper at the end of the track to act like a shim, leaving the top and bottom flush when closed. The next two warranty exchanges I got (for other issues) had no such issue, and thankfully, neither does my fuze.
im uber careful with my phone but its so fragile its just breaking apart. the hard keys are coming up, the slider is now over like everyone else, there are small scratches everywhere, and kinda weird is the camera glass is broken around the edges.
My phone is holding up well with the rubberized cover
Holding up well to date, but seldom use the keyboard as have grown accustomed to using FITALY on the Fuze.
Also am using Capdase BiFold case for general protection + top shell of Innocase to help ward off the laminate separation that some users have complained of. (Also helps keep things from resting on the screen.)
May be Overkill, but hope to have this unit for some time....
Ran across this today searching for cases for the Epic. Anyone using one? Its interesting in that it locks the slider during normal use and hinges open if you want to use the keyboard.
http://www.pdair.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=10100000_10000000_11001061&products_id=31414
Now this looks like quite a nice case for functionality.
Now if they just took off the whole part in the back for the clip and form fit the corners a bit more and offered it in more colors that'd be nice.
This may be the best thing I can do for now, I have been scouring for a jelly case to slip over the epic, since I never use the keyboard
Now, if somebody has the ability to cleanly cut aluminum and wants to sell a matched set consisting of this case with a hole cut in the back for the hump on the extended battery the other guy is selling to poke through... (strokes credit card and sighs)
It's hard to tell from the pics... does the case snap onto the lower half, or does the phone just rest inside?
How firmly does it secure the phone when the case is closed? Does the power button still cause the two halves to separate a little, or are both held firmly in place from both sides?
bitbang3r said:
Now, if somebody has the ability to cleanly cut aluminum and wants to sell a matched set consisting of this case with a hole cut in the back for the hump on the extended battery the other guy is selling to poke through... (strokes credit card and sighs)
It's hard to tell from the pics... does the case snap onto the lower half, or does the phone just rest inside?
How firmly does it secure the phone when the case is closed? Does the power button still cause the two halves to separate a little, or are both held firmly in place from both sides?
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There are videos on you tube. The bottom looks like a very snug press fit. Top must be looser to allow for the hinge to work.
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I had a similar case for my old HTC Titan. I LOVED it. Being a pretty serious phone abuser, that case kept my phone together!
-Rob
I used to have a similar case for my Treo and they are extremely well made. I irregularly dropped my phone from about 5 feet in the air onto hard linoleum and it never suffered any indignities. These come in both black and silver so if you want a different color you would want the silver so you could send it out to be powder coated.
I just ordered one.
Mine came last night.
The good: locks the slider firmly closed. No wobble or "play" at all when pressing the power button. Phone easy to remove (for GameGripper purposes).
The bad: Feels terrifyingly slippery compared to the Seidio ActiveX. Obstructs "slide down" gesture for notifications.
The seemingly fatal (a big one): my "back" fake hardkey keeps randomly going berserk... but ONLY that specific one. The foam in the top half seems to be confusing the capacitive sensor.
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Update: I've had the 'search' fake hardkey freak out a few times on me, too.
Another problem: it's definitely affecting reception. 4G and GPS barely work with the case in place.
Sigh. So close. So agonizingly close. It's awesome to not have the phone shear and jiggle apart every time I hit the power button, and the fact that it allows the phone to be easily removed for the Game Gripper without really compromising the slide-out keyboard's usability is very cool.
I'm really convinced that this case went straight from plastic prototype to mass production before anyone actually tried to use it in an area with 4G service, high humidity (presumably what's screwing up the foam and touchscreen), and who didn't just assume that the GPS was dysfunctional because Samsung sucks.
Sigh. Too expensive to throw away, and really nice in ways that ultimately don't matter because the touchscreen-button problem makes it totally unusable
The plot thickens: more touchscreen observations:
* Oddly, there's NO FOAM around the lower part of the screen where the phantom-pressed fake hardkeys are.
* Last night, it went completely berserk with phantom button presses on cue when I rubbed the latch a certain way.
This suggests that the problem's root cause might extend to the electrical conductivity of the case itself. It's strange, because I wasn't able to find reports of the same problem for users of Monaco cases for other phones (like the Droid). Lots of complaints about signal attenuation, but no reports of touchscreen problems.
I'm seriously tempted to buy some liquid electrical tape and coat the inside of the lid to see whether it helps. The problem DOES seem to go away when the lid is no longer in contact with the screen. However, if it's happening because the sensor is acting kind of like a Hall Effect sensor and the case is acting like a Faraday cage, nothing short of making the case (or at least the top lid) out of plastic is likely to fix the problem. Still, it's worth a try since I really like the case itself, and my alternative is to basically chuck it.
Update: as an experiment, I wrapped black electrical tape around the bottom lip of the top part. It helped a lot. I think I might have also found a contributing cause: cat fur. I think wisps of cat fur might be bridging the metal case & screen and carrying static electricity to the sensor. Oddly, though, some of its *worst* back-arrow spasams have occurred with the phone laying on the desk, untouched, 3 feet away.
I'm still trying to think of a good way to plastic-coat the case without making it look bad & get a nice, even black rubbery coating on it.
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How thin is it compared to the other plastic cases?
Very interested in getting the Monaco Aluminum Case, which is very similar to this one. My last concern, how thin is it compared to Seidio Innocase Surface?
Good day,
after 3 month of being mine, the Desire S's power (or wake/sleep) button started to need more force (power) to be pressed. The perfect "click" feedback under my finger disappeared too. I had the same feeling, like there would be a particle under the button of laptop's keyboard, or something like that, if you know what I mean. It happened once, I flicked it with a finger and it got better. The last time it stayed temporarily. I decided to disassemble the phone to check, whether it is a dust or a particle indeed. But it wasn't. The worst of all, the button is located on the mainboard (well, this is what I saw, it would be great, if it were not, correct me, if I'm wrong).I assembled the phone again, after moving the button a little, trying to make it be easier to press. Now the question: Are there same situations among you, dear members, any chances to fix it or to buy a new motherboard? Or should I just wait, until it stops pressing and change the phone? I like it very much. Thanks.
fautorr said:
Good day,
after 3 month of being mine, the Desire S's power (or wake/sleep) button started to need more force (power) to be pressed. The perfect "click" feedback under my finger disappeared too. I had the same feeling, like there would be a particle under the button of laptop's keyboard, or something like that, if you know what I mean. It happened once, I flicked it with a finger and it got better. The last time it stayed temporarily. I decided to disassemble the phone to check, whether it is a dust or a particle indeed. But it wasn't. The worst of all, the button is located on the mainboard (well, this is what I saw, it would be great, if it were not, correct me, if I'm wrong).I assembled the phone again, after moving the button a little, trying to make it be easier to press. Now the question: Are there same situations among you, dear members, any chances to fix it or to buy a new motherboard? Or should I just wait, until it stops pressing and change the phone? I like it very much. Thanks.
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this happens when the phone's power button is "abused" if you understand me.........idk you can try putting a small bob of sillicone betwen the plastic button and the one on the mainboard to keep them sticked togheder.....don t use glue or something else cuz it will damage your phone's mainboard.HOPE I HELPED!
Tank you for your reply.
The worst of all is, that the contact between the button from outside and the one which is on a mainboard is fine. I'm afraid, the button on the mainboard is worn out....
I am sorry to hear that......you can try going to a gsm service and replace that button or replace the phone's mainboard.
Yes, I'm afraid, this will be the only solution. Except of one idea. I'm going to try it now. If it'll work, I'll post the instruction to solve it. And by the way, excuse me for the bad English
Guess what?? I´ve repaired it!!!! It works great, the "click" feeling is back and the button needs less force to be pressed now. Just like it was at the beginning! If someone needs the instruction, how it had worked for me, here you go, but first, I'll try to explain, what was the reason of this symptom.
The button on the motherboard has a form of a russian letter " Г ". The problem was, the upper (horizontal) part of this button (it may actually be called lever, cz it looks rather like lever)was broken. After it was broken, it looked like an english letter " I ". Surely, the silicone bob, which was fixed on the button outside wasn't enough any more, to press the lever on the motherboard. Also, the broken part of the lever, which stayed, got sharp and it cut in the silicone bob while pressing a button. So this is how I fixed it:
- I disassembled the phone first (there are several videos on YouTube, how it has to be done, but be very careful- Warranty will avoid and you may destroy your good phone). If you have a trouble like this, still having a warranty, you shouldn't even try to fix it on your own. Contact your dealer, please.
- then I picked out the power button, which is from metal, by the way
- the little silicone bob had to be cut away, because it was too small to press the lever on the mainboard. The reason could differ from mine, maybe it just worn out on your phone.
- after that I glued a tiny piece of my bicycle's brake shoe. It has to be small enough to fit there, but in the same time, it has to be bigger, than the one which was already there. The material seemed to be fine for that, because it is softer than plastic and less soft that a silicon. To create the click feeling by pressing the button, I had to pick something harder than the silicone.
- Certainly,everything depends on the size of this tiny little piece, which supplies the contact while pressing the button. You probably will have to cut couple of them, or correct the one, until it fits right. The thickness of my bob had to be aprox. 0,5 mm. After assembling the phone, it worked perfectly. I'm sure it will hold quite long, because the material of the brake shoe is known as something made for... emmm.... made to hold quite long
Maybe absolutely crazy solution, but it worked! May work for someone else. Welcome, if I did help.
The myTouch 4g is a good, reliable phone. When, rooted, it is even better. We happily flash ROMS away, without a care in the world. One day, however, your power button just stops working . Dread, fear, and despair right? Well there is hope! If your power button doesn't work, there are a couple of things you can do before you head for the wallet to spend big bucks on a new phone.
1. Send to HTC.
The most recommended thing to do is to check if your phone has warranty and send it in to HTC if it does. You can either call (preferable) or send in a e-mail. Remember, even if you are rooted and you send in you phone with a custom ROM, HTC will not charge you unless you remove the "VOID" sticker in the back. This is the painless, easiest method, with little effort required, *although you will have to survive without your phone for atleast a week (which was hell)
No warranty?
If your phone is out of warranty, or if you removed the VOID sticker for whatever reason and Dont feel like paying HTC $125 to fix it, there a couple of things you can do.
2. Jury-Rigging (self-fix method)
This method is for those that are comfortable opening up their phone and want to fix the power button for themselves.
*Tools: aluminum foil, Torx T5 screwdriver, small phillips screwdriver, safe-open pry tool.
This idea was inspired from XDA user jjbadd385 who mentioned in a thread I can't quite remember that he had turned on his phone by using aluminum foil to touch the actual power button underneath the outer casing. I recommend using this thread and video http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1591388 to safely open up the phone. Ofcourse, you wont need to dismantle the whole phone, all you need to do is remove the outer casing (black rubber thing the surrounds the edges of the phone). Just do the First step from the guide provided. BE CAREFUL not too lose a little spring that is located near the power button, without it your power button will feel like "its stuck", but the spring itself is NOT necessary to turn the phone on. You will then see your actual power button at the top of your phone. Now here comes the fun part. Using your eyes, and common sense, cut out a small piece of aluminum foil that is about roughly the same size as the power button. Using your hands or the pry tool, bend the aluminum so that it comfortably fits in that little square area directly on top of the power button. Now carefully put the rubber casing back, be wary of the aluminum falling out of place. It may take some patience, but it shouldn't be too difficult. If put correctly, your phone should now start up! Now your power button should work whenever you click it
***If for some reason it doesn't, there could be a problem with the actual ribbon itself (which would be unfixable unless u bought a new ribbon), but most likely the aluminum foil probably was not placed right or was moved putting the casing back on.
****If enough people request, I'll probably make of video/picture slides of the Jury-Rigging method, but right now I have to study for my Sociology test and I'm too lazy
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Want to turn on your phone, but you don't have the tools for the Jury-rigging method and you need your phone NOW?
If you are UNROOTED: (this method is untested by me) From doing a quick google search, there have been people who have turned on their myTouch 4g by simply connecting the phone to the charger and immediately holding the HOME button for about 5-10 seconds. Some have had success with this, but personally, It has not worked for me.
If you are ROOTED and your phone has these things:
Clockworkmod Recovery 5
ADB debugging enabled
You must have adb debugging already enabled on your phone or else this will not work! Even though the phone is powered off, commands somehow still go to the phone!
Make sure to set up ADB on your computer (there are multiple guides in XDA)
-Then simply connect your phone to your computer, open your terminal. Check to see if your computer reads your device by running this command:
Code:
adb devices
If your computer reads it, then you'll be all set!
Then, run the command:
Code:
adb reboot
Give me lifeee! Your phone should then reboot!
THANKS
to jjbadd
to repairsuniverse for the excellent video/instructions
to my myTouch 4g. Its a love/hate relationship
to anyone else i somehow forgot
and to XDA --sharing is caring
**** Please Give "thanks" if I helped revive your phone and please donate to my college books fund!!
I want to add that underneath the outer case, and sitting on top of the flex ribbon, is a very very small piece, that adds that "spring" to the outer button itself, & it falls out of place. Mine did, and to my suprise, when I opened my phone, I apparently lost it because it was nowhere in sight. Also, I have a 4ext recovery image, that was compiled specifically for me by madmaxx82, that when I flashed it, I can power my phone completely down, then plug in the charger, & it will automatically boot up into recovery. I then select "reboot" and it reboots my phone normally. It's a neat little utility, that keeps me from cracking my phone open.
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I want to add that underneath the outer case, and sitting on top of the flex ribbon, is a very very small piece, that adds that "spring" to the outer button itself, & it falls out of place. Mine did, and to my suprise, when I opened my phone, I apparently lost it because it was nowhere in sight. Also, I have a 4ext recovery image, that was compiled specifically for me by madmaxx82, that when I flashed it, I can power my phone completely down, then plug in the charger, & it will automatically boot up into recovery. I then select "reboot" and it reboots my phone normally. It's a neat little utility, that keeps me from cracking my phone open.
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yeah, I too lost the spring as well! good catch!!
I too use to do pretty much the same thing (plug-in the phone to turn it on) But now with the aluminum foil in-place inside the phone, I can use the power button whenever!
Thanks again for the insight about using aluminum foil!
Alternate material option
I had a similar issue with my power button and came to this solution also but instead of aluminum foil I used a piece of disposable aluminum cookie sheet because it was thicker and has some spring in it. I started with aluminum and it didn't work so well - I think the aluminum foil deforms too much to work reliably over multiple operations.
But if you can get your phone replaced by the carrier or manufacturer do it because these things aren't made to be repaired.
mytouch4g-user said:
I had a similar issue with my power button and came to this solution also but instead of aluminum foil I used a piece of disposable aluminum cookie sheet because it was thicker and has some spring in it. I started with aluminum and it didn't work so well - I think the aluminum foil deforms too much to work reliably over multiple operations.
But if you can get your phone replaced by the carrier or manufacturer do it because these things aren't made to be repaired.
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Good call, the cookie sheet was certainly tougher, but not much of a big difference i guess.
Thank for the tip
And yeah, HTC seriously f'ed p with the power button in this phone. It was just desined pretty much to fail evntually lol.
Hey man would you be so kind to sharing that little piece of genius with me/us? Im one of the unfortunate ones that has this problem. PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!
jjbadd385 said:
I want to add that underneath the outer case, and sitting on top of the flex ribbon, is a very very small piece, that adds that "spring" to the outer button itself, & it falls out of place. Mine did, and to my suprise, when I opened my phone, I apparently lost it because it was nowhere in sight. Also, I have a 4ext recovery image, that was compiled specifically for me by madmaxx82, that when I flashed it, I can power my phone completely down, then plug in the charger, & it will automatically boot up into recovery. I then select "reboot" and it reboots my phone normally. It's a neat little utility, that keeps me from cracking my phone open.
Sent from my HTC Glacier using XDA Premium
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elivaldez84 said:
Hey man would you be so kind to sharing that little piece of genius with me/us? Im one of the unfortunate ones that has this problem. PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Check your PM. I'll try to help anyway I can. If anything re-read the guide
Thank you so much! Foil method worked perfectly when I thought my phone was doomed.
This idea was inspired from XDA user jjbadd385 who mentioned in a thread I can't quite remember that he had turned on his phone by using aluminum foil to touch the actual power button underneath the outer casing. I recommend using this thread and video http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1591388 to safely open up the phone. Ofcourse, you wont need to dismantle the whole phone, all you need to do is remove the outer casing (black rubber thing the surrounds the edges of the phone). Just do the First step from the guide provided. BE CAREFUL not too lose a little spring that is located near the power button, without it your power button will feel like "its stuck", but the spring itself is NOT necessary to turn the phone on. You will then see your actual power button at the top of your phone. Now here comes the fun part. Using your eyes, and common sense, cut out a small piece of aluminum foil that is about roughly the same size as the power button. Using your hands or the pry tool, bend the aluminum so that it comfortably fits in that little square area directly on top of the power button. Now carefully put the rubber casing back, be wary of the aluminum falling out of place. It may take some patience, but it shouldn't be too difficult. If put correctly, your phone should now start up! Now your power button should work whenever you click it
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My phone would not turn on after I dropped it on a hard floor for at least the hundredth time (Silly name aside, I LOVE this phone for its durability and the fact that I bought it almost 2 years ago and its features are still on par with most phones out there!!). I had almost bought a new phone earlier in the day before trying one last time to find a solution online. I am so glad I found this post!
I used the foil method, although I didn't have a torx 5 handy, I was able to safely pry the frame apart enough to access the power button and put some foil on it. I am pretty sure I lost the spring before I even attempted the fix. There was also a small amber plastic square with a small metal bump in the center covering the switch poles - seemed like it might have once had to do with powering on the phone, but I took it out and now the phone powers on fine with the foil.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR POSTING!!!
jjbadd385 said:
I want to add that underneath the outer case, and sitting on top of the flex ribbon, is a very very small piece, that adds that "spring" to the outer button itself, & it falls out of place. Mine did, and to my suprise, when I opened my phone, I apparently lost it because it was nowhere in sight. Also, I have a 4ext recovery image, that was compiled specifically for me by madmaxx82, that when I flashed it, I can power my phone completely down, then plug in the charger, & it will automatically boot up into recovery. I then select "reboot" and it reboots my phone normally. It's a neat little utility, that keeps me from cracking my phone open.
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You should share that recovery image
I lost it. I asked him for it again and he sent it..but it don't work for me now. However if u email madmaxx82.. tell him what u want, I'm almost positive he will oblige. He a really cool dude. I've since put foil under my button and its working great.
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I bought the MT4G used so I just want to confirm, is there only one "void" sticker located beneath the micro SD card slot? Thanks
dinhhviet said:
I bought the MT4G used so I just want to confirm, is there only one "void" sticker located beneath the micro SD card slot? Thanks
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yes, should only be one. Sorry for the late reply!
Thank you so much!! I thought that was the end of my phone...but good thing I had it rooted and guess I had left on ADB was able to install ADB on my laptop and recover my phone!!! Just have to make sure it's always charged
lmt125 said:
Thank you so much!! I thought that was the end of my phone...but good thing I had it rooted and guess I had left on ADB was able to install ADB on my laptop and recover my phone!!! Just have to make sure it's always charged
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Since I had to do this for myself last month, I thought I'd throw in a couple of little things I gathered from the process.
- My symptoms were that my power button would not 'register'. It had less feedback and gradually grew harder and harder to activate until eventually I couldn't get it to work at all. Other than a couple of small drops, I hadn't put it under any serious stress. I did the cable-boot thing for a while (in combination with a sleep button app), but eventually got tired of it and decided to pop the case open.
- You absolutely need a T5 screwdriver, and they can be a little tricky to find (many driver sets don't go down past T7). Home Depot has a generic driver set that does include a T5 bit. The safe-pry tool is optional (you can use a small, flat screwdriver head if you are _careful_).
- My phone was never serviced, so the third T5 mentioned in the guide is under the VOID sticker at the bottom of the back. Once you take those three screws out, you can use your fingertips to make a gap between the front bevel and the rubber, then pry _gently_ to loosen the clips.
- Once you have released all the clips, the construction of the power button assembly looks like this:
Button -> piece of film -> metal disc (this is the 'spring' mentioned in the guide) -> ring-shaped contact on body
In my case, the film and disc had somehow slipped off-center, making it so that I couldn't make it hit the contacts. In this case, all I had to do was line everything back up again (film over button, disc over contact with concave-ish end facing the contact so it 'springs') and carefully clip it all back together. Now my power button works like it did on day one. Obviously this fix won't work if you actually have a flex cable break, but I have a feeling that most people who don't throw their phones around may have this sort of slippage occurring over time, and the fix might be simpler than you think*!
* - unless you break something disclaimer disclaimer disclaimer
tuxkamen said:
Since I had to do this for myself last month, I thought I'd throw in a couple of little things I gathered from the process.
- My symptoms were that my power button would not 'register'. It had less feedback and gradually grew harder and harder to activate until eventually I couldn't get it to work at all. Other than a couple of small drops, I hadn't put it under any serious stress. I did the cable-boot thing for a while (in combination with a sleep button app), but eventually got tired of it and decided to pop the case open.
- You absolutely need a T5 screwdriver, and they can be a little tricky to find (many driver sets don't go down past T7). Home Depot has a generic driver set that does include a T5 bit. The safe-pry tool is optional (you can use a small, flat screwdriver head if you are _careful_).
- My phone was never serviced, so the third T5 mentioned in the guide is under the VOID sticker at the bottom of the back. Once you take those three screws out, you can use your fingertips to make a gap between the front bevel and the rubber, then pry _gently_ to loosen the clips.
- Once you have released all the clips, the construction of the power button assembly looks like this:
Button -> piece of film -> metal disc (this is the 'spring' mentioned in the guide) -> ring-shaped contact on body
In my case, the film and disc had somehow slipped off-center, making it so that I couldn't make it hit the contacts. In this case, all I had to do was line everything back up again (film over button, disc over contact with concave-ish end facing the contact so it 'springs') and carefully clip it all back together. Now my power button works like it did on day one. Obviously this fix won't work if you actually have a flex cable break, but I have a feeling that most people who don't throw their phones around may have this sort of slippage occurring over time, and the fix might be simpler than you think*!
* - unless you break something disclaimer disclaimer disclaimer
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Thanks for the input!
I bought a used sensation 4g week or so back. Opened the cover, something fell off, I didn't pay much attention and lost it. By the time I realised it was the spring, it was too late using a light sensor software at the moment to lock/unlock the device.
Is the foil method for the above issue? How can the foil create the spring effect. Hmm I guess I'll have to try out for myself though the sensor is working fine too but this post gives some hope.