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someone selling xda-developers free software @ handango!!!!!!

Hi all,
i was googling for tweakui and came a result from handango.com => http://www.handango.com/SoftwareCat...Id=2&N=96806+4294910762&showBreadCrumbs=false
Check this guy is selling the tools he got free here at xda-devs.
the people who made the soft should do something about it...

I've just written to Handango. Please write to them to and get this thief off their books.
I have noticed that your vendor T.N Vietaus Trade (Australia) is selling a number of illegal (ie pirated or stolen IP) products, including Microsoft ROMs for Windows Mobile phones.
Also, he is reselling free products written by members of the xda developers forum at a significant mark up, free software for example being sold for $49.99.
Please ask this vendor to remove this software, or remove it for him.
Kind regards,
vijay555 (moderator at xda-developers.com)
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What a ****en Lame ass *****. THat is just the lowest you can go to, selling stuff that is offered to us here for free. **** him, ive written to them also to get this ***** from selling stuff on there. Good eye and thanks for making everyone aware of this.

I've sent handago an email as well. Keep the emails going.

what is the email?
Found the HQ phone number, will try to call (cant call anymore sorry) but will need more info on this like what app and other stuff that you can give
305 NE Loop 820
Suite 600
Hurst, Texas 76053
Corporate Office: 817-280-0129
Fax: 817-280-9628

He has ebooks in http://www.windowsmarketplace.com/category.aspx?bcatid=1129&av=14-275257
And same app's come up in the Microsoft handango page that is linked to the Microsoft Windows Mobile Product page Site http://microsoft.handango.com/PlatformTopSoftware.jsp?siteId=75&platformId=2&title=T.N+Vietaus+Trade+(Australia)&authorId=1811375

Mod needed
Can a mod post this in other forums so that everyone that has made a app can check if their app is in the selling list

Email of the supposed developer tnvietaus AT gmail dot com
And if im doing something wrong in giving this out, this info is on the web

This is insane.

haha I just left HORRIBLE reviews warning people on all of the links you just provided Mike.. lol.
I also emailed HIM... and Handango.

no, I just let them know that this stuff was available for free ...
The thing that IRKS me is he doesnt explain that there is MORE to just downloading and running the update to these.. so alot of people are probably ruining their devices.

FYI, this is one instance where the DMCA can be used to your benefit (if you are one of the software authors).
Do NOT write to Handango, et al, complaining that someone is selling free software.
Do write to the resellers and state, factually, that this person is selling software that *you* wrote without your permission or authorization. Also state, very factually, that you want the software pulled and any monies charged for the software to either be refunded to the purchasers or forwarded to you.
What would also help out is if all the software authors were to allow one person (perhaps vijay would be a good choice as he is both a mod and a software author) to act on their behalf so there is a single point of contact for XDA.

Tell me the address of Handago (and Microsoft, If I have read and understand well) and I also send an email.
Just a thought: many here (maybe me too?) searchin' and using no purchased software, and therefore one of us (or one of those having this "habit", if you like more saying so) has found not violating any legal or moral law. World goes around...
Gubbài.

He is selling over 90 titles, and they are ALL available here for free just about.. he is selling the dang HTC X-button for 24 dollars! lol.

derma, I think everyone here is realistic about software availability and software use... read around for my personal views on warez etc.
The board however has a strict policy on banning for distributing warez.
But, it takes some particularly spiteful cojones to steal someone else's work and then put your name on it and sell it. And then selling at an absurd markup... come on. There's reasonable cheekiness, but that's just taking the micky.
V

Understanding doesn't mean accepting
vijay555 said:
derma, I think everyone here is realistic about software availability and software use... read around for my personal views on warez etc.
The board however has a strict policy on banning for distributing warez.
But, it takes some particularly spiteful cojones to steal someone else's work and then put your name on it and sell it. And then selling at an absurd markup... come on. There's reasonable cheekiness, but that's just taking the micky.
V
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Just to explain my position about this.
As I wrote on the title of this post, I figure out what it can be the reasoning of this person but meanwhile I absolutely don't accept what he did (or it's better saying "what he didn't do" 'cos what he's selling it's not stuff of his own).
My thought doesn't want to be a provocation, at least not a gratuitous provocation, but a simple-soft thinking about a hard problem: copy-right (and use-wrong).
Obviously this is a real theft, more odious than that "normally" made to the detriment of that author of the software who sell his creation having the conceptual rights to do that. In this case we can see instead a double somersault: he sell something not of his own that originally is (was) free.
Hope being plain.
PS: "cojones"?! Maravilloso! ¡Hasta la revolución, siempre!
Gubbài.

It isn't just the markup, its the flagrant lack of informing people of the consequences of attempting to use those warez without having ample experience with their device. He just says 'For expert. Use at your own risk' he doesn't say .. 'If you don't know what you are doing your phone is dead.. d .. e .. a .. d' .. I feel bad for the people who have purchased these and tried to run them not knowing about unlocking and what not.. it's a shame

OMG, another one.
http://shop.my-symbian.com/Platform...0&productType=2&platformId=2&productId=208881

Where can i find the tweakUI here?

hanmin said:
OMG, another one.
http://shop.my-symbian.com/Platform...0&productType=2&platformId=2&productId=208881
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Review added saying it's free here.

Carrier IQ Admits Holding ‘Treasure Trove’ of Consumer Data

http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/20...+wired/index+(Wired:+Index+3+(Top+Stories+2))
WTF? How is this legal? I think most smartphone users DON'T know about this. How do they get their spy-crap on our phones anyway? Is there an antispyware to stop this?
Read the article, what a pathetic way to try to convince people that spying on them is harmless. No idiots here, fool.

i smell class action law suit. Hopefully the payments will go out to Trev, XDA, and the EFF

Yeah every day seems to get worse for them

I can see how the technology could be useful.
But there are too many questions unanswered.
1. the privacy of the end user.
2. the costs involved for the end user.
3. the reasons for it being hidden from the end user.

Exactly Omega, exactly right!
P.s. for anyone who hasn't read the full article, few features;
1 Microsoft says this never has or will be on Windows Phone 7
2 Apple says this has been on many devices up until iOS5
3 No word on Android (oh ****)
4 This is done through the carriers. They usually add this after it's manufactured. So this is the 'extra layer' they add on. I suppose that means once we put on Cyanogen, that stuff is gone - because nothing from those guys remains.
5. They said this is mostly in the US...the US carriers then. They mentioned 3 big ones in the article, I think two of them were T Mobile and Verizon.
We know that almost every device is watching us, but the stuff that spyware does is incredible...

So far can only find this on yank carrier branded devices. Maybe something to do with the Patriot Act, the grubberment wanting to know what you be doing on your phones.

Yes, the government were mentioned, as one of the main parties despite the carriers wanting that info.
Separately, I stumbled upon a company which says it sells tech. subverting software to governments which gets through devices like Blackberry. So all those BB users in the Arab world are not getting private communication, even if they're paying for it and believing it.

if anyone is interested, I posted a thread in General as well to go after them. The lawyer said the more people we can get signed up the greater attention it will get. Help out and try and make a difference.

illuminati guys the government is spying on us to try and take over the world. Why do you think in the US b/c they are the government with the most power.
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Carrier IQ Class action lawsuit, please jump on board

I spoke to the lawyer here in St. Louis that is going after HTC, samsung, Carrier IQ and I wanted to try and help the battle. He said that he is creating a website now that would allow group participation in the suit. This is where the XDA community comes in! He said the more people that jump on board the stronger it will look for a judge. When the website is created, I will post a link where everyone can sign up to go against any company who uses Carrier IQ, and request that they stop.
"Thank you for asking our firm to represent you in connection with this matter. In order for others who have inquired of you and are interested in pursuing this matter, they can follow the link below to a generic consumer fraud report form on our website. We are adding CIQ/Cell Phone specific forms and content as we speak but that probably won’t be available this weekend. In the meantime, anyone can use the form below to contact us about possible representation. They should be sure to include information about the exact make and model of their cell phone, the operating system it is running (Android, iOS, etc.) and their wireless carrier.
http://www.hgsslaw.com/PracticeAreas/ClassActions/ConsumerFraudReportRequest.aspx "
Under "report fraud/claim" put "Carrier IQ, wire tap, device brand name, OS, ect.
Thanks!
-Eric

iceman4357 said:
I the lawyer here in St. Louis that is going after HTC, samsung, Carrier IQ and I will be joining them in their fight hoping to add AT&T, Apple, ect to the battle. He said that he is creating a website now that would allow group participation in the suit. This is where the XDA community comes in! He said the more people that jump on board the stronger it will look for a judge. When the website is created, I will post a link where everyone can sign up to go against any company who uses Carrier IQ, and request that they stop.
Stay Tuned!
-Eric
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Us here in the XDA Community understand that HTC and Samsung are not carriers, so I don't see how they can be implemented in the lawsuit. Carrier IQ is installed by the carriers. You should do your research before bringing them into the lawsuit. I don't think you want to get counter-sued.

lowandbehold said:
Us here in the XDA Community understand that HTC and Samsung are not carriers, so I don't see how they can be implemented in the lawsuit. Carrier IQ is installed by the carriers. You should do your research before bringing them into the lawsuit. I don't think you want to get counter-sued.
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I appreciate your concern but research has been performed, and I think you might have to do some of your own research. Manufacturers install the software into the phone by request of carriers. Kind of makes them all responsible. Please read the statements posted in the link below:
http://www.engadget.com/update/carrier-iq-which-companies-have-the-smarts/
Seems to me that the carriers request the manufacturers install it as I read it; meaning that the manufacturers install it themselves and both parties benefit from the information collected.
Either way, under wire tap law ANY company that collects personal information without consent is in violation.

waiting for a link.....
handheld google device

groves226 said:
waiting for a link.....
handheld google device
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it *is* legal to change IMEI - please stop censoring legit threads

I was quite disgusted to see how the mods failed to interpret the law, and how they reacted in this thread.
Someone cited a proposed Senate bill, not an actual law that's on the books, and the mod reacted as if it were law. And worse, the proposed legislation actually exempted XDA participants anyway:
(d) Exception- Subsection (b) shall not apply to the manufacturer of a
mobile device or a person who repairs or refurbishes a mobile
device unless the manufacturer or person knows that the mobile
device or part involved is stolen.'.
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This is the thread that emerges in search results. What an embarrassment to xda. Is xda not interested in creating a forum for those who repair mobile devices?? Some of whom actually seek to alter their IMEI back to its original number after bricking wiped it out are being denied support. How foolish is that?
I propose the lock be removed from that thread, and zelendel apologize for the error.

Great to see someone hitting the books and citing real published sources rather then spreading paranoia based on hearsay. Always seek a published source to back up anything you spread or specify that it is not confirmed true and is speculative.
I did ++ your post bro, I ranted about MEID repair stuff in cricket users I should probably rant about it here too, I'm sick and tired of everyone assuming that one who is attempting to repair an MEID is a thief/fence. Likewise there are legal ways to discuss that topic (this is speculative because I'm too lazy to pull up legislation right now, I have a headache and I was nodding out in the middle of reading up on AT commands) like I'm pretty sure (but I don't have the law to cite so someone else should do find it) that zeroing out and changing and MEID to the one that was originally registered to the device (the one under the battery) is legal to do and doesn't violate any FCC or other federal regulations. I'm pretty sure I have read that and did cite it in my rant on the subject at cricket-users. But some people just decide to demonize an activity and do witchunts. I will say right out that I regularly repair MEID numbers and any phone I beleive to be stolen that I ever run across I go through the phone book and find the ICE or obvious family contacts and arrange to return the stolen property, even if is a handset I purchased and then found to be stolen I will willingly loose that money to get someone their **** back. I've had many phones stolen from me and it's messed up and I wouldn't do that to someone else.
When phones are stolen their MEID normally only remains on the blacklist for the duration of the phone being on that account, once the person replaces the phone and activates it, this releases the stolen phone's MEID from the database and allows it to be activated again (this practice is verified to be Sprint policy by a high-tier CSR I spoke with during a support call, I had a phone stolen from me by the police, not making this up, and I was trying to permanently prevent it from being activatable. It is not easy.)
So if you have a problem with MEID repairing be real about it, don't act like anyone who mentions it is a thief and start lodging accusations. It is against this site's current policy and any such comments discussing how to do these things should be taken down, but stop flaming people that post about it, thiefs don't even need to go through all that trouble they just have to wait for the phone they stole to be replaced on the account. The only way a phone gets meid blacklisted on a long term or permanent basis (besides submitting an override form to sprint that basically says yeah my stuff was jacked and I want to make sure no one can ever activate this phone again) is from broken service contracts. The phones that were subsidized by agreeing to a annual service contract will be blacklisted by that carrier until the account is repaid.
That is the truth about the MEID repair bullies, they are really just supporting the carriers' ability to shake down bad customers for money, they really don't give a **** if a device is stolen, that just means they get to sell another device at full unsubsidized price.

It's interesting how a proposed bill gets interpretted as law. Anyone can write a bill. Some average joe can write a bill, and submit it to Congress for signing. Then they can post the bill publicly, reference it in an XDA thread, and get mods to close a thread.
I did an "alert" on the mods post in that other thread. It will be interesting to see if XDA can correct the error. Hopefully the alert doesn't go to the mod who acted irrationally.

Here are the results of the attempt to get the thread closure overturned:
"the mod is a senior mod so his decision cannot be overturned. but google this question that will provide more updated info status on this"
How can a senior mod be so reckless?
And since when is "google" a higher source than the Cornell law publications? Google is what created the mess in the first place. Someone googled, read a proposed law that was long past dead, and interpreted it as law.

Buying Phones. Can We Trust...

How many times have we struggled to find a phone at a decent price. Only to find it on some random website which we are not 100% sure about. So I thought I might start this thread.
I'm hoping if you post a website that you found a phone on someone else might be able to help you out and tell you weather it's safe or not.
Of course use your common sense if it has not http:/ or https and no SLC certificate don't even bother posting because I imagine you will get called an idiot.
I thought I would also write a few guidelines to look at, what to look for and how to know if the website is fake.
(I'm not sure if this has been done before, if it has been then I'll remove it)

It Goes without saying always buy from reputable companies. This is mearly a helping hand, to separate the wheat from the... Bad wheat.
1. Does the website have a SLC certificate. And a valid one at that. This basically is a safe for your card details.
If no, the don't even entertain the idea.
2. Is there a https or a http.
Again, no? Don't even think about it
3. If possible to check, is it hosted by a reputable company.
At least this way, if anyone else has been done by the company they will make sure this website can't be rehosted to stop scaming, if it's not, you have no protection, remove thine self from the site.
4. Is there any links or deals linked to external websites? For example does the website have an special deals available from reputable voucher websites like wowcher.
4.a If yes can verify it on the voucher companies website.
This means people use this site, and also if they have voucher codes on check outs try see if you can find any for the check out online.
5. Does the website look well made.
Does it look like it's been bodged, stolen, quickly thrown togeather or built with low resolution pictures.
6. Are there any policy's, returns and terms and conditions
Again this is important, these need to be present.
7. Is there a contact number, email address or address of the company.
7a. Perhaps research the location, does anything come up? Do you get a reply from the email. Can you get hold of the number?
Although this is not a sure fire way of making sure the company is legit, it is very helpful to know the company has a Base of operations. And the map doesn't point to some blokes back garden. And if it's a block of offices you can check, as by law, they are displaying the company's who have been or are Based at said address.
8. Are there any reviews about the website and its services.
8a. Do the people who reviewed the site only have a single review? Or multiple.
I know reviews are helpful, but very often you'll find 5-6 people have reviewed a website and its services but often the people might have only one review to their name. So take the reviews with a pinch of salt.
I hope this helps anyone. If your not 100% confident walk away, it's not worth it, pay the extra and just get it else where. But if you are going to buy from a site, use a credit card, and make sure your bank has a active fraud squad team. This will give you some security.
ALSO! Understand You purchase from websites at your own risk.