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http://www.theverge.com/2012/5/4/30...-unlock?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
Honestly, AT&T needs to cut the BS.
This is unacceptable.
Time for us devs to start working on an unlock... *sigh*
Well, I was going to wait around until Sunday, but this seals the deal, on my way to AT&T right now.
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Well, I was going to wait around until Sunday, but this seals the deal, on my way to AT&T right now.
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Thanks, hopefully we can break something out soon. I have to wait till Sunday for mine since its already preordered with no cancellations, but as soon as I get mine I will begin my attempts as well.
Hopefully we can work on getting S-OFF as well. -_-
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Thanks, hopefully we can break something out soon. I have to wait till Sunday for mine since its already preordered with no cancellations, but as soon as I get mine I will begin my attempts as well.
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well, it is going to my wife, the info seems more like speculation still since no one from AT&T or HTC has come out and said directly this is the plan.
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well, it is going to my wife, the info seems more like speculation still since no one from AT&T or HTC has come out and said directly this is the plan.
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HTC provided the quote in the article...
DesignGears, PLEASE STAY. PLEASE, I BEG YOU, PLLLEAAAASSEE ???????? i will do annnnything for you.
also, this is a bit of speculation on our part... at&t could just be holding the boot loader unlock until the phone is actually released. we don't know anything for sure. best bet is to wait until sunday for some news. i also think that we should SPAM THEIR FACEBOOK WALL. I REPEAT: SPAM THEIR FACEBOOK WALL!!!!!!!
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DesignGears, PLEASE STAY. PLEASE, I BEG YOU, PLLLEAAAASSEE ???????? i will do annnnything for you.
also, this is a bit of speculation on our part... at&t could just be holding the boot loader unlock until the phone is actually released. we don't know anything for sure. best bet is to wait until sunday for some news. i also think that we should SPAM THEIR FACEBOOK WALL. I REPEAT: SPAM THEIR FACEBOOK WALL!!!!!!!
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Unlock my bootloader!!
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Unlock my bootloader!!
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trololol. anything but that can't devs use the rogers boot loader unlock tool to help? won't that assist the devs to get the manual unlocking process off the ground, because the phones are basically identical?
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Well, I was going to wait around until Sunday, but this seals the deal, on my way to AT&T right now.
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Oh come now, DG! You ran off from the Atrix 4g and we got it done! (I was one of the few who didn't get the2dcour in his phone ) Your work is grand. This device is deserving of the AAA treatment, just give it a couple weeks and see how it all plays out!
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Oh come now, DG! You ran off from the Atrix 4g and we got it done! (I was one of the few who didn't get the2dcour in his phone ) Your work is grand. This device is deserving of the AAA treatment, just give it a couple weeks and see how it all plays out!
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ill have what he's having... .LOL but yeah. WHAT HE SAID! ^^^
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Unlock my bootloader!!
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It's happening. We got the movement started. The Vivid was unlocked and this will be too.
Don't make me bribe you
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http://www.theverge.com/2012/5/4/30...-unlock?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
Honestly, AT&T needs to cut the BS.
This is unacceptable.
Time for us devs to start working on an unlock... *sigh*
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Just cancelled my pre-order. If and when they ever get around to giving us an unlock or the devs here crack it, I might reconsider. Until then, AT&T can kiss my ass.
Yeah this is just speculation based on something from htcs end. We haven't heard anything from att officially yet
Edit: obviously this is being done by att, by who is to say they won't unlock it after a month or so
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Wow..it's like the Atrix all over again
Glad that deal expired then lol..
Hopefully this article well be wrong in a month..
-dark
I'm pretty sure they said the same thing regarding the Vivid at first. It eventually got unlocked.
I think its still too early to totally freak out of this. All we have is one very generic quote from HTC and nothing from ATT yet. I think it will get done soon enough, if not... well then we can freak out.
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Wow..it's like the Atrix all over again
Glad that deal expired then lol..
Hopefully this article well be wrong in a month..
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I'm actually browsing these forums because I'm looking to replace my Atrix. When I saw designgear's comment I couldn't help but laugh....
Damn. I really wanted this phone over a Galaxy Nexus too...
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I think its still too early to totally freak out of this. All we have is one very generic quote from HTC and nothing from ATT yet. I think it will get done soon enough, if not... well then we can freak out.
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I think it's the perfect time. The Vivid community waited too long and they had to wait 2 months to get an unlock from HTC
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Well, I was going to wait around until Sunday, but this seals the deal, on my way to AT&T right now.
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You're always welcome back on the "real X" side. HTC UK said on the 2nd the graphics issues were identifed and an update specifically for them (not 1.29) was due soon.
It's kind of an interesting position people find themselves in. With the X you get: funky Nvidia related crap, 32GB of memory, ****ty battery life and an unlocked bootloader. With the XL you get a better SoC, 16GB of memory, LTE, better battery life, tons of AT&T "enhancements," and potentially no way to remove them if the bootloader stays locked. Pick your poison.
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I think it's the perfect time. The Vivid community waited too long and they had to wait 2 months to get an unlock from HTC
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Yup. I agree that it's still possible we'll get an unlock (like the Vivid), but no amount of pressure is ever too much. The more we press AT&T and HTC, the better.
They don't really care about our community or our protests. But, like a little pest, they want us out of their hair. If we continue to be pests, they will get frustrated and cede to us.
Like the title states, Samsung will be releasing a Verizon Developer Edition GSIII with Unlockable Bootloader. Thoughts? Comments? Curse words?
I mainly want to know, will this impact our data plan if we purchase this product.
http://www.androidcentral.com/samsung-offer-hacker-friendly-developer-edition-galaxy-s-iii?utm_source=ac&utm_medium=twitter
This pisses me off even more than the bootloader being locked in the first place. Not only would I have to sell my normal S3, I'd have to wait for one of the developer ones, most likely with a tiny stock, to ship to me. I don't know how Samsung could possibly think this is a valid solution after the majority of people who want to hack their phone bought it when it came out.
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Like the title states, Samsung will be releasing a Verizon Developer Edition GSIII with Unlockable Bootloader. Thoughts? Comments? Curse words?
I mainly want to know, will this impact our data plan if we purchase this product.
http://www.androidcentral.com/samsu...galaxy-s-iii?utm_source=ac&utm_medium=twitter
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I want to know how soon it will be available. I would gladly sell my new S3 on Ebay to buy an unlocked one.
Any chance this could help people on here unlock the bootloader on the VZW S3?
I'm also slightly skeptical of this. I don't see this anywhere else but on some blogs. I can't find anything official from Samsung.
Hmm, according to CNet, Samsung sent this out as an email. That could be why there's no official release.
I also don't see that you can currently buy anything from http://developer.samsung.com
Ahh, verified https://twitter.com/SamsungJohn/status/222832375422402560
What a pile of steaming ****.
**** you, Verizon.
it should be noted guys that hardware wise its prolly gunna be the same.. ergo flashing the low level partitions will prolly "convert" ya
im just saying that based on speculation..
When?!
That's the question I have.
Also, will it have all the vzw junk and the annoying notification spam?
Can't wait for the answers.
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This is the most annoying frustrating thing. Do I return the phone before the 14 days are up now? I don't really want to spend double on the exact same phone... F u Verizon.
This could be good news for us. Looks like Samsung is getting some heat from us. I say keep the calls to Samsung going and also the facebook comments going. I keep telling that I'm returning because of this. They don't want to hear this..... Keep going guys...
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This is absolutely disgusting.
I don't know why people support this, or why people are assuming we'll magically be able to flash the developer firmware/bootloader to our standard Verizon Galaxy S3s.
Haven't read into it yet but is this version only available unsubsidized? Or can it be purchased at a subsidized price if I haven't upgraded yet?
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ExodusC said:
This is absolutely disgusting.
I don't know why people support this, or why people are assuming we'll magically be able to flash the developer firmware/bootloader to our standard Verizon Galaxy S3s.
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i would imagine that shot is at me, like i said just guessing i dont see any reason why not.
using something like dd to write every single partition to another device and basically "clone it" would then bypass the checks for certain software.
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i would imagine that shot is at me, like i said just guessing i dont see any reason why not.
using something like dd to write every single partition to another device and basically "clone it" would then bypass the checks for certain software.
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No, that wasn't directed at you or anyone in particular- I was more referring to the tons of support the model was getting in the IRC channel.
I don't understand it, because I seriously doubt it will help.
It's possible, but I'm really doubting it.
Regardless, unless it does prove as a method for allowing consumer-level devices to be unlocked, it is practically useless to almost all Galaxy S3 owners on Verizon.
I'm not bashing anyone, I'm just disgusted Samsung and/or Verizon would think this is an okay alternative.
Also, how about all that "unlocked devices will hurt the network" stuff from Verizon? I believe there's a bit of a contradiction here.
Edit: Just restating, no hard feelings towards you, shabbypenguin, or anyone else, it just blows my mind Samsung and Verizon would pull this.
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Haven't read into it yet but is this version only available unsubsidized? Or can it be purchased at a subsidized price if I haven't upgraded yet?
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You'll be buying directly from Samsung so there will be no subsidy. You'd have to sell your Verizon-bought phone and use the cash for this if you want to do it on the cheap.
So basically the phone doesn't come with a warranty why offer warranty on a phone that people want to hack Verizon u piss me off I'm on sprint and I probably hate Verizon for doing this just as much as u guys
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Giving my locked GS3 to my wife.
Well this will make my wife happy. As soon as the developer version is available I'm going to get it and give the locked GS3 I just got today to my wife.
One question though, assuming the locked version can be unlocked, does that mean development for both devices will be the same? Or is it possible that they will have to have separate development?
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So basically the phone doesn't come with a warranty why offer warranty on a phone that people want to hack Verizon u piss me off I'm on sprint and I probably hate Verizon for doing this just as much as u guys
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Every device has a warranty, until you unlock it. Technically. And unless they can see that it was ever unlocked when you lock it back up...it's all good
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1756483
it worked!! lol j/k
Good bye unlimited to those who still had it. I'm going to ride out the one I have. Guess they will need to add another developer area for these devices.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1756483
it worked!! lol j/k
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Haha! On a serious note, are you going to purchase this Developer Edition GSIII? I read the original article as I was waiting in line at Fed Ex to pick up my GSIII. I am seriously thinking of returning my GSIII and getting this.
On a whim I sent Verizon a message asking about the locked bootloader for the Verizon
My original message just to clear things up:
I just recently received my Galaxy S3 which I pre-ordered from
Verizon. I was wondering if you could provide me with any
information on the locked boot loader that Verizon put on my
device. Is there a way I could unlock it? Can you provide a key or
a tool that I could use to unlock my device? I know that Samsung
released a developer edition for the Galaxy S3 but I am confused
on why Verizon would maintain their lock on the phone.
Any information on this topic would be greatly appreciated.
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And got an interesting reply back:
Thank you for contacting Verizon Wireless about the boot loader for the Galaxy S3. I know this may be frustrating but there will be a solution soon coming.
Samsung will be releasing a software update to unlock your device.
Right now, we do not have a date for the release but it shall be soon.
Verizon Wireless appreciates you as a customer and your patience in this matter.
Have a great weekend!
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Can anyone else back this up? This is the first I am hearing of it.
Edit: Screenshot of the email mentioned above.
http://i.imgur.com/ULA4X.png
Edit 2: Verizon just got in contact with me and confirmed that their previous message that they sent me (see above) was indeed about the global usage unlock and not about the boot loader. He also said that there is no work being done right now to unlock the boot loader on the SGS3. Although, he did suggest that they may revisit their decision down the road (as in several months from now) and possibly work up a patch.
I am intrigued, yet highly skeptical.
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I am intrigued, yet highly skeptical.
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Exactly, although I think this is a bit better than Panda saying he has the unlock keys. Still, not going to get my hopes quite yet...
They want you to think the upcoming update is a unlock, but it will really lock it down even tighter! LoL
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Did anyone ever think Verizon locked down this phone because they want to push their variant as an enterprise device? This is the only one I believe that came with the vpnclient app.
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I am intrigued, yet highly skeptical.
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This.
Why would Sammy sell a dev variant if verizon is just going to unlock their phones? Just doesn't make sense
show screenshot of the email please
You think maybe all the negative press combined with their inability to stop Samsung from releasing the dev version that could be a key to unlocking anyways which would make them look even worse and heavy handed combined to make them want to change it.
Honestly just hopeful thinking, but it would sure make me a happy camper.
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If Verizon wants to heavily compete with the dev edition, they will release an unlock tool
I emailed Verizon a few days ago. I got the standard "we're looking into it" response.
Today I got an email from them saying that they were happy to hear my issue was resolved. I figured this was just their ****ty customer service but now I might be in conspiracy mode.
Dun dun dun
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If Verizon wants to heavily compete with the dev edition, they will release an unlock tool
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There will be no competition, at least from a sales standpoint. Verizon will easily outsell Samsung. 99% of people either don't care about a locked bootloader or can't afford/justify the unsubsidized pricing. If they did unlock it, it would be a pr move. (or legal) Now I definitely expect the dev model to attract higher prices on ebay, craigslist, etc.
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Maybe the email was just a stupid CSR who thought you were referring to SIM unlocking. doesn't make sense that Samsung would be releasing that instead of Verizon though
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There will be no competition, at least from a sales standpoint. Verizon will easily outsell Samsung. 99% of people either don't care about a locked bootloader or can't afford/justify the unsubsidized pricing. If they did unlock it, it would be a pr move. (or legal) Now I definitely expect the dev model to attract higher prices on ebay, craigslist, etc.
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This ^
AftermathLK said:
show screenshot of the email please
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As requested. All I did was black out my personal info. Sadly I'm under 10 posts so all I can do is attach the file. Lemme get to 10 and I can post a better one.
cordell12 said:
They want you to think the upcoming update is a unlock, but it will really lock it down even tighter! LoL
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I wouldn't be surprised about this.
Kipland007 said:
I emailed Verizon a few days ago. I got the standard "we're looking into it" response.
Today I got an email from them saying that they were happy to hear my issue was resolved. I figured this was just their ****ty customer service but now I might be in conspiracy mode.
Dun dun dun
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Maybe they made some progress...
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As requested. All I did was black out my personal info. Sadly I'm under 10 posts so all I can do is attach the file. Lemme get to 10 and I can post a better one.
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Thank you, now I'm curious lol
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Maybe they made some progress...
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I guess then the question will be who gets the bounty? Donation to Verizon anyone?
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I guess then the question will be who gets the bounty? Donation to Verizon anyone?
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me for putting the pressure on them with my petition. j/k
I have already had the AT&T sgs3 but returned it because the user base is no were need Verizon's user base so I figured that we would ultimately have more roms kernels and themes. I am hoping that will still be the case. Either way I do not regret my decision because AT&T Lte is so tiny in comparison to Verizon lte when it comes to coverage.
Anyways back to the point of my thread.. the development for the international version of both the sgs2 and the sgs3 has always blown me away with the vast number of different roms, themes, and kernels! If anyone has every taken a peak over in the i9300 Dev forums they will know what I am talking about. Whenever I browse over there I find myself in a state of pure jealousy. The best of the best can be found there from roms like OMEGA to kernels like syliah kernel. I wish there was a way to easily port the international roms etc like entropy did for the AT&T sgs2 when he created the hellraiser packages which essentially swapped out the incompatible parts of a rom and replaced them with the compatible libs, modems etc that were meant for the AT&T sgs2. It would be nice if we could find with way to make it happen with our Verizon sgs3, not sure if that is possible though. Cross my fingers for this and definitely for an unlocked bootloader
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I agree. Even the sprint S3 has more roms than the Verizon S3. I can not find any popular ROMS that run on the Verizon S3.
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xWiZxKiDx said:
I agree. Even the sprint S3 has more roms than the Verizon S3. I can not find any popular ROMS that run on the Verizon S3.
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You should be greatful for the development that we have.
xWiZxKiDx said:
I agree. Even the sprint S3 has more roms than the Verizon S3. I can not find any popular ROMS that run on the Verizon S3.
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Hurleyzero1 said:
You should be greatful for the development that we have.
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I was not complaining at all. I am very grateful but regardless i was comparing all us variants to internal and not us to us..
We'd have more development if Verizon cared about their customers more than their money.
I'm confident we'll have more development. Coming from an LG Revolution I'm very happy with the amount we have now even
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Unfortunately we will never see nearly as much development as we would if we had an unlocked bootloader.
I am fairly confident that the developers around here will conquer this and we will have an unlocked boot locker before too long.
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I am fairly confident that the developers around here will conquer this and we will have an unlocked boot locker before too long.
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If you have read any of the r&d threads that's highly unlikely.
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If you have read any of the r&d threads that's highly unlikely.
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Why do you say that? The people in the r&d threads are working as hard as they can to find paths that could work to get around the bootloader.
JetBlue said:
Why do you say that? The people in the r&d threads are working as hard as they can to find paths that could work to get around the bootloader.
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I think he meant it is highly unlikely we will eventually have a unlocked bootloader, not a work-around.
Yea its not looking like the bootloader will be unlocked...thankfully with kexec its not that big of deal.
adclem said:
I am fairly confident that the developers around here will conquer this and we will have an unlocked boot locker before too long.
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It doesn't even matter that the BL is locked we already have a"Work around" and can do anything an unlocked phone can do we just have a few extra steps.
They have more development because it is... Verizon in the US alone vs the rest of the world..
I'm not surprised that they have more development at all
I myself have just started dev on this phone with nothing released as of yet. It will come soon. I have friends in the same boat. Just be patient. Roms will start coming in heards now that there is a workaround.
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Yea its not looking like the bootloader will be unlocked...thankfully with kexec its not that big of deal.
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Also agree with this. With kexec it seems we have some decent flexibility already, with just a couple resets in startup which I consider a very small price to pay
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Yea its not looking like the bootloader will be unlocked...thankfully with kexec its not that big of deal.
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Dude, what are you talking about ???? It is a freaking big Deal!! Kexec is nothing else but a workaeound hopefully just as a temp fix until the bootloader is unlocked
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Dude, what are you talking about ???? It is a freaking big Deal!! Kexec is nothing else but a workaeound hopefully just as a temp fix until the bootloader is unlocked
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I'm not sure why it is such a "big deal" exactly. What we have basically gives us the abilities of an unlocked bootloader (not 100% but exactly what we need development-wise) and all we have to deal with is a few short reboots on bootup. I'd say this is just fine even if we never get a true unlock.
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I'm not sure why it is such a "big deal" exactly. What we have basically gives us the abilities of an unlocked bootloader (not 100% but exactly what we need development-wise) and all we have to deal with is a few short reboots on bootup. I'd say this is just fine even if we never get a true unlock.
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Having a locked bootloader is still very much a big deal. It slows development if anything and reduces the possibility of seeing ROMs other than stock TouchWiz because developers who don't like TW have to go through the trouble of learning how to correctly make a boot.img that is compatible with kexec or else face the consequences. I just learned this the hard way by hard bricking my phone while trying to build a working boot.img for Sense 4.0.
Trust me, we want an unlocked bootloader...
I think we have a smaller user base because of the costs associated with Verizon. Let's face it, we all know Verizon is hell of expensive. We pay the highest price for one reason, the 4G is blazing fast and we always have a good signal.
Good bye HTC Rezound, hello Galaxy S3!
okay so by now I have learned that it might not just be htcs fault but is most likely atts fault that were not getting the unlocked boot loader or the proper sources to be released
Why is att doing this? There's nothing positive for them or HTC in doing this
Is there anything we can do, does any one have connections with people in bigger companies that make this very public and sound like the huge issue that it is
Is there any else that we can do besides for that?
I think it would just be a good idea to brainstorm on wht to do to fix this dilemma
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Vote with your dollars cancel service and tell them why.
Source has been released except for the most recent updates. Those will be released eventually.
I doubt AT&T is going to budge on the locked bootloader because the number of people who really care probably represent about 1% of their HOX customers.
If you're intent on pushing, the place to start would be making a stink on AT&T's social media pages.
Besides... we have unlocked bootloaders and root I'd love to go to Corporate AT&T and get to the guy who decides this stuff and show them my phone and tell them they can't stop us. There's ways around everything.
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Well, if you have the money to start a class action against them, sure.
XNine said:
Well, if you have the money to start a class action against them, sure.
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Doesn't the AT&T contract say you can't sue them?
I think you can still take them to small court which is limited to a few thousand dollars.
tony_5309 said:
Besides... we have unlocked bootloaders and root I'd love to go to Corporate AT&T and get to the guy who decides this stuff and show them my phone and tell them they can't stop us. There's ways around everything.
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I'd probably just punch him in the Face
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If you guys really want to try, just go to small claims courts claiming that you were convinced that you had the ability to unlock the bootloader, and use Peter Chou's statement on unlocking bootloaders as evidence, and then say that you couldn't unlock it. If you lose, nothing happens to you. If you win, and a lot of other people win, AT&T is going to be bleeding money.
karan1203 said:
Doesn't the AT&T contract say you can't sue them?
I think you can still take them to small court which is limited to a few thousand dollars.
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I've never seen anything saying you couldn't sue AT&T. A Class action would be there to reverse their grip on a handset, which is HTC's flagship in North America (and arguably, the best phone out right now). It hurts devs more than anything.
tony_5309 said:
Besides... we have unlocked bootloaders and root I'd love to go to Corporate AT&T and get to the guy who decides this stuff and show them my phone and tell them they can't stop us. There's ways around everything.
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We might, but anyone that is getting this phone now with the new update is screwed for a while. And it's not fair that they have to wait just because these companies are being dumb.
I suggest we all get on a bus, go to Houston where AT&T is based and just drop our pants and leave them something at their front entrance....
Just kidding...
Buy samsung. Let htc go bankrupt!
lazarat said:
Buy samsung. Let htc go bankrupt!
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its not HTC its ATT so that comment really didnt help. ATT wants the locked bootloader on all thier flagship phones. The dont want people to do tethering, and they want to be able to force you to keep that ****ty bloatware for the possible sales they would get from it. its flat out ATT greed that has them keeping the bootloader locked down. Unfortunatly right now HTC doesnt have the pull Samsung does to force ATT hand.
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Unfortunatly right now HTC doesnt have the pull Samsung does to force ATT hand.
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Then they better have the pull because people pay high amount of $ for their device and do not care whether they have the pull or not. Maybe htc should call themselves apple2 since all I read about them is giving devs hard time not releasing sources etc while on their webpage they claim to be dev friendly which is total bull****.
This new software update isn't good. Patching the hboot, no root, no bootloader unlock. We shouldn't expect any new developers developing for this phone. AT&T sealed that deal for us when they release 2.20.
SkizzMcNizz said:
This new software update isn't good. Patching the hboot, no root, no bootloader unlock. We shouldn't expect any new developers developing for this phone. AT&T sealed that deal for us when they release 2.20.
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yep and the att guy at the store updated my wifes before giving it to her and i asked him why he said they were told they have to do the update on all HTC One X they sell. i returned it and ordered from amazon hoping to get 1.85 on the phone. This was earlier today when she wanted to upgrade to the HOX too.
vioalas said:
We might, but anyone that is getting this phone now with the new update is screwed for a while. And it's not fair that they have to wait just because these companies are being dumb.
I suggest we all get on a bus, go to Houston where AT&T is based and just drop our pants and leave them something at their front entrance....
Just kidding...
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LoL! This is true..
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Now, who's coding the HBoot? It can't be AT&T, can it? I would think it would have to be HTC because no one at AT&T is smart enough to do this...
Edit: As well, just checked HTC's site... the rom is listed for manual download. Perhaps a dev can reverse engineer it?
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Now, who's coding the HBoot? It can't be AT&T, can it? I would think it would have to be HTC because no one at AT&T is smart enough to do this...
Edit: As well, just checked HTC's site... the rom is listed for manual download. Perhaps a dev can reverse engineer it?
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Root will come. The question after that is can CID be changed again or has htc locked it down again? The locked up nature of htc and att is so anti android it makes me sick.
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Root will come. The question after that is can CID be changed again or has htc locked it down again? The locked up nature of htc and att is so anti android it makes me sick.
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Has anyone who's taken the ota and kept root confirmed which partitions are/aren't WP?
gunnyman said:
Root will come. The question after that is can CID be changed again or has htc locked it down again? The locked up nature of htc and att is so anti android it makes me sick.
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I hear ya man. ****, I should have got an iPhone. At least I could pester Siri about her hot sister or ask advice on hiding bodies. Even iPhones are having better luck getting unlocked.
Regardless, I do love this phone. Probably the best phone since the Nexus One.
Like you said though, just a matter of time, and, will we have bootloader unlock access? I'm going to be hopeful. For anyone who buys their device with 2.20 loaded, it would really suck to not be able to at least achieve root.
Question, gunny... do you know (assuming one has root and TBU), is there a way to freeze the updates? Is their a system app or process that could be frozen so that OTA's never show again?