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My apologies if I am here with the same complaint, but I tried searching this forum and found nothing that works for me.
Basically, I rooted and flashed CM 5.0.8 and I have been having battery issues. Now its not that my device is draining battery at a very fast rate (seems it is indeed doing that), but I suspect there is some problem with the battery meter.
So from all the stuff that I read, I decided to recalibrate the battery. I charged it up to full, until the green light went off, until the status showed 100%(full) and then some more. I then restarted into recovery(Amon-RA 1.7.0) and wiped the battery stats and rebooted back into CM, while having the charger connected at all times. Its worth noting however that during the time the phone was booting itself into recovery or into the ROM itself, the charging indicator stayed off. Thanks to that, when the phone booted into CM, the indicator was red for a few mins before it turned green (charge had dropped 99%)
Now I've done this 2-3 times, including letting the phone die due to an empty battery, but I am still getting very little life from the phone. For the record, I have the end button set to sleep and I don't have any continuously running widgets and my syncing apps (twitter) are set to sync only every 1 hour.
Anyway, again I don't think these apps are draining much battery, since once the battery dies down and the phone switches off (after light to moderate usage as compared to the life 1.6 Donut gave me), when I put it back to charge and turn the phone on after 5-10 mins of charge (while the phone is off), the meter shows a charge level of around 65%. So I suspect that the battery charge is at around 50-60% during when the meter reads it as around 1% and forces the phone to turn off.
I also tried switching on the phone after it had turned off, but it switches off immediately after booting (at least on 1.6, I could reboot it a couple of time on a 'dead' battery)
Are there any other tips that I can use to recalib my battery? Any idea will be much appreciated as my phone dies out each day before I can get back home and put it on the plug. Should I consider upgrading to CM6-RC1? Has it been proven that the battery performance is better on that?
Have u tried swapping out the battery with another one to isolate it to possibly the battery itself? Isolation is key, that way could it be ur extusb isn't charging correctly or is it the battery?
Well, I do have a spare - the one I saved from my bricked G1, but I haven't tried it out yet. The battery was working perfectly well just a few days ago when I had a stock Donut. So, I suppose it isn't a battery problem, but no harm in trying out the other one.
i had issues with my lithion battery and found out it happened to be on its last breathe. And with my spare i had it worked good. did u drop the battery at all? with lithium ion batteries can be as delicate as expensive china or porcelain. And to be honest the batteries that came with our g1's aren't really that good. If you can I would suggest getting an ext. battery from ebay. ive heard that fully discharging a lithion battery isn't the best practice either. I'm no expert just experience Best of Luck!
well...
reading the Cyanogen 5 thread I noticed at least 5 people with a broken battery...
for the record mine is broken too...
it's all swollen up... I mean, I can use it but it doesn't last a full day and it doesn't fit perfectly anymore in its slot inside the phone...
I'm starting to think that maybe for some reason flashing cyanogen 5 caused this issue, since so many people had this problem at the same time...
or maybe it's just a time defect of some stock htc batteries... who knows...
@GigiSpligi: Nono... don't blame CM for the swollen battery. Batteries tend to swell up after a lot of usage (charge discharge cycles). The battery on my old Nokia phone had swollen up after about 2 years of use. Similarly my friends E51 battery. Also my G1 batt seems to have swollen a little bit already. So nothing to do with the ROM.
Of course, if the ROM is making you charge frequently, then it is indirectly causing the effect on the battery.
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Should I consider upgrading to CM6-RC1? Has it been proven that the battery performance is better on that?
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The exact same thing happened to me ... actually on all ROMs now ... i'm gonna look into getting a new battery and sdcard which kinda sucks, but oh well. when i think about it, i wasn't have any problems till i started flashing sense based ROMs, especially Slide ROMs. so i must have done something wrong. i can't even make a phone call for longer than 10 mins before the phone shuts off and have to plug it back it into a charger just to get it to boot to the home screen
... hope there is a solution ... haven't read through this thread yet. just wanted to let you know you weren't the only one with the exact same problems
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well...
reading the Cyanogen 5 thread I noticed at least 5 people with a broken battery...
for the record mine is broken too...
it's all swollen up... I mean, I can use it but it doesn't last a full day and it doesn't fit perfectly anymore in its slot inside the phone...
I'm starting to think that maybe for some reason flashing cyanogen 5 caused this issue, since so many people had this problem at the same time...
or maybe it's just a time defect of some stock htc batteries... who knows...
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@GigiSpligi: Nono... don't blame CM for the swollen battery. Batteries tend to swell up after a lot of usage (charge discharge cycles). The battery on my old Nokia phone had swollen up after about 2 years of use. Similarly my friends E51 battery. Also my G1 batt seems to have swollen a little bit already. So nothing to do with the ROM.
Of course, if the ROM is making you charge frequently, then it is indirectly causing the effect on the battery.
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hahaaha well that didn't take long to read ... yeah my battery is somewhat swollen and i did drop the phone once ... time for a new battery i guess ... sucks
[x-posted from Cyanogenmod forums]
Ah well... gonna have to pull out a new battery and see if that helps in anyway. I will have a look at the device usage stats to see if anything is causing unnecessary drain. Since there has been a drastic change in the battery life after the upgrade, I do not want to blame the battery itself yet. Guess some app is driving the phone nuts.
Ok, I was just seeing the battery usage history in spare parts and I there are some interesting usage stats there.
Network usage - While Market, Android System, Google, Calendar are around 1% - .5%, almost 100% of the usage has come from Media. I think this has been trying to keep the network alive throughout the time. I dunno if network means Data or just the voice network. The packages listed under Media are Camera(twice), DRM, Download Manager, Media Storage. Is there any reported issues with Camera or Media Player?
Also, Spare Parts says my Battery Health is Good. Is this a reliable indicator of the battery life?
I believe spare parts receives the battery info via "Testing" which comes stock on android. Let me know how the new battery works out cuz I want to research further when it comes to phone environment versus the actual battery itself.
I have same problem with my battery. I guess maybe battery life since it already use 1 half year. Anyway, who knows.
new battery
just picked up a brand new battery today. gonna leave it charging overnight. will report later on whether it fixes the problem with the random shutdowns
... on a side note, i think there has been a battery issue since CM5 correct? in my sig there is a recalibration method by xda member 'my_former_self' for those who have not read it and if your battery is still good to go ... worth a try
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so it turns out my battery issues was in fact the battery. the new battery is working awesome. phone hasn't randomly shutoff on me all day with heavy texting, some youtube vids, mild internet browsing, and several apps ... 17+ hours later about 2% charge remaining. gonna run the battery through its conditioning cycle.
fyi i turned airplane mode on when i was in class ... approximately 2 hours
New battery it is
After spending over 4-5 days with the battery, I pulled out the spare that I had (with a couple weeks of usage) and installed that on my phone. Just to be safe, I drained the battery after some initial charging and ran it through this battery recalib method.
I did this yesterday morning after it being charged fully. I also installed SetCPU after recalibrating. Its run 2 full days of regular usage and I still have over 50% charge left. Ain't that cool or what? I think I will leave it uncharged tonight also and I guess it should last the whole of tomorrow as well. I don't think even the stock cupcake or donut lasted this long on a single charge. So in that case CM 5.0.8 has actually managed to up the battery life a lot (with SetCPU and, sleep on end).
Exactly how long does your battery last? It's no secret that CM5 (and any Eclair ROM) is just plain poor on battery life in these devices, even on my in-warranty Magic it chews through the battery about 25% faster than any Donut ROM such as Dwang, SuperD or CM4.
Seido sell extended batteries which fit in the original phone housing (unlike those ridiculous ones on eBay which have an extended back and turn your phone into a 2001-era brick), they seem to get good reviews, maybe give one of them a go.
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Exactly how long does your battery last? It's no secret that CM5 (and any Eclair ROM) is just plain poor on battery life in these devices, even on my in-warranty Magic it chews through the battery about 25% faster than any Donut ROM such as Dwang, SuperD or CM4.
Seido sell extended batteries which fit in the original phone housing (unlike those ridiculous ones on eBay which have an extended back and turn your phone into a 2001-era brick), they seem to get good reviews, maybe give one of them a go.
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Co-sign. I'm using one of their batteries and they work well.
I am now on my 2nd full charge. Drained completely and full charge while off. I have the battery calibration app and i use it. Im about to take my phone off the charger and put it to work.
How many times did you calibrate your battery before you got the full potential of it. I see some people are getting as much as 30+ hrs on their device while im getting 7-9 on moderate use.
I've never done that. Always read that draining lithium-ion batteries hurts the battery if done repeatedly. Instead I just charge to full then delete battery stats in clockworkrecovery. Battery has been great ever since that and a factory reset.
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I've never done that. Always read that draining lithium-ion batteries hurts the battery if done repeatedly. Instead I just charge to full then delete battery stats in clockworkrecovery. Battery has been great ever since that and a factory reset.
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Ill keep it till tues/wed and see what happens. If I don't see improvement ill exchange once again
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I've never done that. Always read that draining lithium-ion batteries hurts the battery if done repeatedly. Instead I just charge to full then delete battery stats in clockworkrecovery. Battery has been great ever since that and a factory reset.
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What does deleting the battery stats via ClockWork do? Do you delete them on each charge?
I was getting great battery life and then I used the calibration software and I'm getting good, but slightly less great battery life. Does uninstalling/freezing that app do anything or once it's calibrated, it's done?
The phone has a dual-core processor, and the best GPU you can get in a phone these days, so you can't expect it to get super battery life unless you never use the phone much. I did the calibration once, and have been able to go all day under moderate to heavy use. All day being 8am-7pm and still having ~20% charge.
Sadly my first g2x that I received wasn't able to go through more than 4 hours of standard use even after fully charged the 2nd time. I sent it in last Friday for exchange and now I'm waiting for the 2nd g2x to be send to me. Well see how it goes by then.
@himmelhauk - I noticed in your signature that you have the Paul O'Brien fix... I saw in that thread that that noticeably increased speed/smoothness, but I haven't heard anybody talk about its influence on their battery. Have you noticed a difference in your battery life after making that tweak?
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I only calibrated once, and that plus some other simple tweaks i saw great results. I usually get about 20+ hours of medium use(A few calls, non-stop texting, occasional game or youtube video, and checking email every couple of hours). If you want to see what I did you can click the link in my sig.
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What does deleting the battery stats via ClockWork do? Do you delete them on each charge?
I was getting great battery life and then I used the calibration software and I'm getting good, but slightly less great battery life. Does uninstalling/freezing that app do anything or once it's calibrated, it's done?
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it gets rid of the battery information stored within the os so that the phone reads the battery charge correctly. this was common practice for vibrant owners after flashing a new ROM. I've seen people saying that this phone has horrid battery drivers so I dunno how that will effect the battery stats but after a factory reset and deleting the stats my battery is double what I was getting on my vibrant.
I only do this after flashing a new ROM or in this case upon getting and setting the phone up. I would do it again if I swapped the battery for a different one also. just charge to 100%, reboot into clockwork, advanced menu, wipe battery stats, done. it DOES NOT increase battery life. it only allows the phone to read the battery more accurately which would keep the phone from thinking its dying when it still has considerable charge left. that's why you hear about people seeing their battery life read 1% yet the phone last for hours.
I only calibrated once because I realized the values were off a bit.
Tried every battery trick in the book. If you actually want to use the phone, nothing will help. Android is a battery eating nightmare. Hopefully one day the platform will mature so adults can use it as a business phone. I think I am returning mine or giving it to my kid.
I did a single calibration and am now seeing 20+ hours with decent usage. Fully charge the battery, use battery calibration app to erase settings, let it drain till it shuts itself off, try pressing the power button to make sure there's no remaining charge, then fully charge to 100% with the phone still off (you can tap the power button while its plugged in and off to briefly bring up a battery indicator on the screen with out actually powering up). Its true that lithium ion batteries last longer if they don't go through fully discharge cycles, but thats referring to repeated occurances, not a rare or occasional situation. And when calibrating, draining from 100 to 0 is the best method of getting a good calibration. Additionally, while its healthy to do the mid charges most of the time, about once a month or so you should do a full drain. This helps keep the calibration accurate (remember that android will continue to modify the file, albeit at a greatly reduced level after the initial discharge of a new calibration, hence why that occasional full discharge is valuable). A full discharge once a month won't significantly reduce your battery's life expectancy.
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let it drain till it shuts itself off, try pressing the power button to make sure there's no remaining charge
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Draining a li-ion battery past the safe shut off is an easy way to damage or completely kill the battery. Your phone is set to shutdown before complete discharge for this reason. The full discharge then charge method was for NiCd batteries. This has no use for lithium-ion batteries.
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Draining a li-ion battery past the safe shut off is an easy way to damage or completely kill the battery. Your phone is set to shutdown before complete discharge for this reason. The full discharge then charge method was for NiCd batteries. This has no use for lithium-ion batteries.
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True, but the method of attempting to power back up won't actually drain it past the safe point. The point is bad calibrations (either from the factory or by an incomplete calibration) can cause the OS to shut the phone down prematurely during your new calibration run (before the actual safe cut off), resulting in the calibration being off scale. When you attempt to power the phone back on, if it is at the true safety cut off, it won't reactivate, where as if the calibration from before was skewed, it will allow it to boot back up and finish draining down to the safety cut off. This is in line with the reports of people having incorrect readings on battery %, where they have a low number, reset the phone, and suddenly seem to jump up 10 or 20%.
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@himmelhauk - I noticed in your signature that you have the Paul O'Brien fix... I saw in that thread that that noticeably increased speed/smoothness, but I haven't heard anybody talk about its influence on their battery. Have you noticed a difference in your battery life after making that tweak?
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I honestly don't know if it made any difference on battery life, as I did the battery calibration before I installed the fix. At any rate, I get much better battery life after the calibration for certain.
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True, but the method of attempting to power back up won't actually drain it past the safe point. The point is bad calibrations (either from the factory or by an incomplete calibration) can cause the OS to shut the phone down prematurely during your new calibration run (before the actual safe cut off), resulting in the calibration being off scale. When you attempt to power the phone back on, if it is at the true safety cut off, it won't reactivate, where as if the calibration from before was skewed, it will allow it to boot back up and finish draining down to the safety cut off. This is in line with the reports of people having incorrect readings on battery %, where they have a low number, reset the phone, and suddenly seem to jump up 10 or 20%.
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I dunno about this phone but I know the galaxy s can still be powered on after the safe shut off and drained completely. People were doing exactly that and messing their batteries up. I would hate for people to misunderstand your post and end up making the same mistake. So the LG doesnt let you power on after the safe shutdown unless its connected to a charger? If so thats pretty good. In any case its a lot easy to just use clockwork, terminal emulator, or any other app to delete battery stats once your charged to 100%. No need to drain first
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I dunno about this phone but I know the galaxy s can still be powered on after the safe shut off and drained completely. People were doing exactly that and messing their batteries up. I would hate for people to misunderstand your post and end up making the same mistake. So the LG doesnt let you power on after the safe shutdown unless its connected to a charger? If so thats pretty good. In any case its a lot easy to just use clockwork, terminal emulator, or any other app to delete battery stats once your charged to 100%. No need to drain first
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I hadn't heard about the Galaxy S phones having that issue. Like I said, I came from the Eris and this method was the way to go with that phone, so perhaps its a manufacturer dependent function. In any case, I agree that the cwm method is better, but I meant my post to be accessable by those who may not have taken that particular plunge yet, since it only requires root. Thanks for the info though; its good to know in advanced that the safety shut off being unavoidable isn't a guarentee on all phones (though frankly it should be).
EDIT: Not sure if I'm reading it wrong, but it sounds like you thought I meant to drain the battery before calibrating, which isn't true; all you need to do precalibration is have the charge at 100%. The only time I was suggesting to drain it is during the actual calibration run, so that Android has a full scale of your battery's range. If thats not what you meant, than ignore this edit. Just wanted to make sure I was explaining myself correctly.
Also, if you open your battery cover and look at the battery, it's not suppose to go above 40 degrees celsius, or 104 degrees fahrenheit. I found that the temperature often goes past this, especially when watching movies for extended periods of time, or playing games, which leads to a significant decrease in battery life because heat and li-ion batteries are not a good combination.
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Also, if you open your battery cover and look at the battery, it's not suppose to go above 40 degrees celsius, or 104 degrees fahrenheit. I found that the temperature often goes past this, especially when watching movies for extended periods of time, or playing games, which leads to a significant decrease in battery life because heat and li-ion batteries are not a good combination.
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You can use SetCPU to make a profile according to battery temperature and underclock it when it gets to 40 degrees or something. I have profiles for when the screen is off and for temperature.
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You can use SetCPU to make a profile according to battery temperature and underclock it when it gets to 40 degrees or something. I have profiles for when the screen is off and for temperature.
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What r ur temp profiles
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Hi folks - this is the first thread I have started, hence requesting the non-noobs to go easy on me... (this forum is a scary-kind-of-cool)
I mustered up the courage to install Infused 1.5.0 on my stock... the instructions were superb and everything went great... really enjoying the improved speed and looks. But my battery life has degraded. It has been more than a week since I flashed my phone - and it is only getting worse. Now I have read a lot about how Infused is getting great battery life for some folks... and i have gone through those threads, trying to figure out what I am doing wrong. This is my typical usage profile
1) I put the phone on charging before I go to sleep... when I wake up (around 7 AM) it is fully charged.
2) I quickly check overnight messages, finish the daily ablutions, and 30 min later when I check the phone it is already at 95%.
3) By 10 AM, I have made a few long phone calls (no bluetooth) (totalling 60-90 minutes) - and the battery is down to 75%
4) At work I use a bluetooth A2DP headset - maybe 30-40 min of calls and by 12 I am at 50%.
5) More calls in the afternoon, intermitted mail checking and sometimes 30-40 minutes of music streaming on my bluetooth headset - and by 6 PM my phone is down to critical level 12-15%.
This is in now way the same experience that others are having with the Infused ROM and with the Infuse phone in general.
Other points:
6) I run Juice Defender... (don't know if it helps)
7) My screen brightness is just a few notches over 0%
8) My data is always on - except when I am using Wifi of course
9) I turn bluetooth off when I am not using it
So that's the story guys... and I would eternally grateful if the awesome folks out here can help me figure out what I am doing wrong... or there is some logic behind the sad battery life of what is otherwise the best phone that I have ever owned.
It depends how long Infused has been running on your system. After about 3 days I noticed my phone was adjusting to the ROM and the battery life improved significantly. Aside from that, try this trick. Drain your battery next to nothing and then charge all the way. Do this a couple of times. Not quite sure about the logistics but it seems to work. Another thing that has improved my battery life is to make sure I don't have background apps running. You can check this by going into apps > manage apps > and then running. Sometimes Media Hub will begin a background process and that eats up a whopping 8 MBs alone. Force close these pointless background apps and you should see an improvement there as well.
have you conditioned the battery and reset battery stats?
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It depends how long Infused has been running on your system. After about 3 days I noticed my phone was adjusting to the ROM and the battery life improved significantly. Aside from that, try this trick. Drain your battery next to nothing and then charge all the way. Do this a couple of times. Not quite sure about the logistics but it seems to work. Another thing that has improved my battery life is to make sure I don't have background apps running. You can check this by going into apps > manage apps > and then running. Sometimes Media Hub will begin a background process and that eats up a whopping 8 MBs alone. Force close these pointless background apps and you should see an improvement there as well.
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Thanks popesmasseuse (you really aren't are you?)... the ROM has been running now for a week... gets worse rather than better. I do typically wait for my battery to drain completely before I charge it... but when I do have to do it at 7 PM - then I can never charge it fully, before I have to start using it again. I wonder if the fact that my phone goes through "micro charges" is a reason for my declining battery life...
Will check the running apps... and see if closing them improves things... thanks!
Fact: Installing a ROM greatly improves battery life... Try it....
Turn of GPS and Bluetooth when not in use.
Same here I uninstalled media hub... period... just useless...
Phone calls are a pretty heavy battery drain. Sounds like you're in call for hours each day. Most people don't talk on the phone more than a few minutes a day. Poor signal will also significantly reduce your battery life... how many bars you usually have at work?
My battery life got better the longer I had the infused ROM. But personally I only talk on the phone maybe a total of an hour each day, but I am constantly using internet and youtube, and if I have spare time I'm using my Kindle app to read some books. I keep my GPS, sync, and wifi on all day long and my brightness all the way up (I just can't stand a dim screen lol) and by the time I got home today my battery was at 40%, which I am perfectly fine with.
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Phone calls are a pretty heavy battery drain. Sounds like you're in call for hours each day. Most people don't talk on the phone more than a few minutes a day. Poor signal will also significantly reduce your battery life... how many bars you usually have at work?
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Ah...the man himself.
Yes I talk a lot on the phone - nature of the job. 3 hours minimum in a day. Signal at home is terrible - 15% strength... that could be the reason why the battery runs dry after the morning routine. Any way to offset that?
At work signal is great. But in office I also tend to use my desk phone more...
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Err... no... Noob alert!!!
How does one do that?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=14912331&postcount=7
Read this post in another battery thread I am doing this right now to see how it performs afterwards.
Read the thread in my sig.
Never use task killers.
For me, battery life on phones gets good after about 2 weeks or so.
With light to medium use I can easily go for 2+ days.
Consider not streaming music through Bluetooth. Also don't auto sync stuff every 15 mins. If you can use Gmail they use Push notification. I'm on my phone all day literally and I make it home with some battery left. BTW connect to a Wi-Fi when ever possible, 3g data streaming will kill your battery quick.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=14912331&postcount=7
Read this post in another battery thread I am doing this right now to see how it performs afterwards.
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has anyone tried this method?
It's a Lithium-Ion battery which means it does NOT respond to "conditioning".
"Reconditioning a battery involves completely discharging the energy from a battery then recharging the
battery. Li-Ion batteries do not require reconditioning to maintain good battery performance since Li-Ion
does not have a memory effect. It is necessary to complete drain and then recharge a Li-Ion battery in
order to determine its current capacity level, but that is not the same thing as reconditioning the battery. Li-
Ion batteries do not have a condition that needs to be reconditioned." lxe.com
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It's a Lithium-Ion battery which means it does NOT respond to "conditioning".
"Reconditioning a battery involves completely discharging the energy from a battery then recharging the
battery. Li-Ion batteries do not require reconditioning to maintain good battery performance since Li-Ion
does not have a memory effect. It is necessary to complete drain and then recharge a Li-Ion battery in
order to determine its current capacity level, but that is not the same thing as reconditioning the battery. Li-
Ion batteries do not have a condition that needs to be reconditioned." lxe.com
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Keiht's tutorial is effectively a technique called "bump charging" for putting that last extra percent or two of charge into a battery. However - with Li-Ion batteries, charging like this will SEVERELY reduce their charge cycle lifetime.
The only thing that "calibration" should affect is how your device reports battery charge level, NOT actual power usage. You should get the same total battery life whether your device is "calibrated" or not, with the exception possibly of the device shutting off prematurely because it thinks the battery is lower than it really is.
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Keiht's tutorial is effectively a technique called "bump charging" for putting that last extra percent or two of charge into a battery. However - with Li-Ion batteries, charging like this will SEVERELY reduce their charge cycle lifetime.
The only thing that "calibration" should affect is how your device reports battery charge level, NOT actual power usage. You should get the same total battery life whether your device is "calibrated" or not, with the exception possibly of the device shutting off prematurely because it thinks the battery is lower than it really is.
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I would have to agree with you. I followed his directions as i was having horrible battery issues after going to 1.5.0 and it seems to have helped the reporting as far as I can tell. I think the big problem and it is only a guess is how the phone is reporting the battery condition not actual battery left. In any event I am running JD and the longer I run with 1.5.0 the battery seems to be lasting a lot longer but I have ti disable most everything which hobbles the phones best features to get that battery life still searching for the perfect solution.
Just thought this was interesting and hadn't seen it posted elsewhere on the Sensation forum.
https://plus.google.com/105051985738280261832/posts/FV3LVtdVxPT
The battery indicator in the status/notification bar is a reflection of the batterystats.bin file in the data/system/ directory."
No, it does not.
This file is used to maintain, across reboots, low-level data about the kinds of operations the device and your apps are doing between battery changes. That is, it is solely used to compute the blame for battery usage shown in the "Battery Use" UI in settings.
That is, it has deeply significant things like "app X held a wake lock for 2 minutes" and "the screen was on at 60% brightness for 10 minutes."
It has no impact on the current battery level shown to you.
It has no impact on your battery life.
Deleting it is not going to do anything to make your more device more fantastic and wonderful... well, unless you have some deep hatred for seeing anything shown in the battery usage UI. And anyway, it is reset every time you unplug from power with a relatively full charge (thus why the battery usage UI data resets at that point), so this would be a much easier way to make it go away
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I understand the logic behind it, I do, but I've noticed massive improvements at times when doing this, but only when battery is exceptionally bad for no reason. It's not just a pseudo effect, and it's not just draining and charging the battery. I'm talking consistantly getting a few hours per charge, 3 or 4 full cycles, then I wipe stats, and boom, 12 to 20 hours.
So, I'm just gonna keep doing it, it doesn't hurt either way.
Ofc it does not improve battery life. No one ever said that. Only thing it does is let charge your phone to 100% like you would on a official rom.
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Anyway I still erasing my battery stats ...
It was never suppose to improve your battery life, but give you more accurate reporting of how much battery life is left.
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It was never suppose to improve your battery life, but give you more accurate reporting of how much battery life is left.
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im agreed with you... it doesnt improve the battery, but give more exact battery porcentage
I have seen a few threads about calibrating the battery, and I downloaded an app on the market, but I don't want to run it yet until i get some questions answered.
Is there a way that is better than others? Does calibrating the battery help with battery life, or what is the purpose?
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I have seen a few threads about calibrating the battery, and I downloaded an app on the market, but I don't want to run it yet until i get some questions answered.
Is there a way that is better than others? Does calibrating the battery help with battery life, or what is the purpose?
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Battery calibration does nothing. A google employee even confirmed that battery stats are only used for keeping track of what is using your battery (which it does not do very well IMO). So deleting them and discharging the battery then rebooting and all that other crap only wastes time.
As for fully draining and recharging the battery to calibrate it... in short it does much more harm than good. Older Ni-Cad batteries used to have a 'memory' of sorts. if you did not fully discharge them from time to time they would act dead when they wernt.
The batteries in our phones (and most newer electronics) are Lithium-Ion (and in some newer phones Lithium-Polymer). these batteries have no 'memory'. in fact discharging them all the way is very bad for them, and can actually cause the battery to rupture if its done too extreme (you would have to short the terminals for this to happen)
The reality of this is that the less you let your battery discharge, the longer it will last. Every time you let it drain all the way (or almost all the way) you are harming it and reducing its lifetime.
The best way to take care of your phone's battery is to try to keep it between 50% and 80% full. Even keeping the battery fully charged for very long periods of time can be just as bad as discharging it fully.
TL;DR: get rid of that app, and dont ever think about doing any battery calibration ever again.
Further Reading Here and Here
Klathmon said:
Battery calibration does nothing. A google employee even confirmed that battery stats are only used for keeping track of what is using your battery (which it does not do very well IMO). So deleting them and discharging the battery then rebooting and all that other crap only wastes time.
As for fully draining and recharging the battery to calibrate it... in short it does much more harm than good. Older Ni-Cad batteries used to have a 'memory' of sorts. if you did not fully discharge them from time to time they would act dead when they wernt.
The batteries in our phones (and most newer electronics) are Lithium-Ion (and in some newer phones Lithium-Polymer). these batteries have no 'memory'. in fact discharging them all the way is very bad for them, and can actually cause the battery to rupture if its done too extreme (you would have to short the terminals for this to happen)
The reality of this is that the less you let your battery discharge, the longer it will last. Every time you let it drain all the way (or almost all the way) you are harming it and reducing its lifetime.
The best way to take care of your phone's battery is to try to keep it between 50% and 80% full. Even keeping the battery fully charged for very long periods of time can be just as bad as discharging it fully.
TL;DR: get rid of that app, and dont ever think about doing any battery calibration ever again.
Further Reading Here and Here
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Cool man, thanks...I'll skip on the calibration.