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[Q] How Many Times Did You Calibrate Your Battery Before You Gained Full Potential

I am now on my 2nd full charge. Drained completely and full charge while off. I have the battery calibration app and i use it. Im about to take my phone off the charger and put it to work.
How many times did you calibrate your battery before you got the full potential of it. I see some people are getting as much as 30+ hrs on their device while im getting 7-9 on moderate use.

I've never done that. Always read that draining lithium-ion batteries hurts the battery if done repeatedly. Instead I just charge to full then delete battery stats in clockworkrecovery. Battery has been great ever since that and a factory reset.

regP said:
I've never done that. Always read that draining lithium-ion batteries hurts the battery if done repeatedly. Instead I just charge to full then delete battery stats in clockworkrecovery. Battery has been great ever since that and a factory reset.
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Ill keep it till tues/wed and see what happens. If I don't see improvement ill exchange once again
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regP said:
I've never done that. Always read that draining lithium-ion batteries hurts the battery if done repeatedly. Instead I just charge to full then delete battery stats in clockworkrecovery. Battery has been great ever since that and a factory reset.
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What does deleting the battery stats via ClockWork do? Do you delete them on each charge?
I was getting great battery life and then I used the calibration software and I'm getting good, but slightly less great battery life. Does uninstalling/freezing that app do anything or once it's calibrated, it's done?

The phone has a dual-core processor, and the best GPU you can get in a phone these days, so you can't expect it to get super battery life unless you never use the phone much. I did the calibration once, and have been able to go all day under moderate to heavy use. All day being 8am-7pm and still having ~20% charge.

Sadly my first g2x that I received wasn't able to go through more than 4 hours of standard use even after fully charged the 2nd time. I sent it in last Friday for exchange and now I'm waiting for the 2nd g2x to be send to me. Well see how it goes by then.

@himmelhauk - I noticed in your signature that you have the Paul O'Brien fix... I saw in that thread that that noticeably increased speed/smoothness, but I haven't heard anybody talk about its influence on their battery. Have you noticed a difference in your battery life after making that tweak?

Me
I only calibrated once, and that plus some other simple tweaks i saw great results. I usually get about 20+ hours of medium use(A few calls, non-stop texting, occasional game or youtube video, and checking email every couple of hours). If you want to see what I did you can click the link in my sig.

lobsterhead said:
What does deleting the battery stats via ClockWork do? Do you delete them on each charge?
I was getting great battery life and then I used the calibration software and I'm getting good, but slightly less great battery life. Does uninstalling/freezing that app do anything or once it's calibrated, it's done?
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it gets rid of the battery information stored within the os so that the phone reads the battery charge correctly. this was common practice for vibrant owners after flashing a new ROM. I've seen people saying that this phone has horrid battery drivers so I dunno how that will effect the battery stats but after a factory reset and deleting the stats my battery is double what I was getting on my vibrant.
I only do this after flashing a new ROM or in this case upon getting and setting the phone up. I would do it again if I swapped the battery for a different one also. just charge to 100%, reboot into clockwork, advanced menu, wipe battery stats, done. it DOES NOT increase battery life. it only allows the phone to read the battery more accurately which would keep the phone from thinking its dying when it still has considerable charge left. that's why you hear about people seeing their battery life read 1% yet the phone last for hours.

I only calibrated once because I realized the values were off a bit.

Tried every battery trick in the book. If you actually want to use the phone, nothing will help. Android is a battery eating nightmare. Hopefully one day the platform will mature so adults can use it as a business phone. I think I am returning mine or giving it to my kid.

I did a single calibration and am now seeing 20+ hours with decent usage. Fully charge the battery, use battery calibration app to erase settings, let it drain till it shuts itself off, try pressing the power button to make sure there's no remaining charge, then fully charge to 100% with the phone still off (you can tap the power button while its plugged in and off to briefly bring up a battery indicator on the screen with out actually powering up). Its true that lithium ion batteries last longer if they don't go through fully discharge cycles, but thats referring to repeated occurances, not a rare or occasional situation. And when calibrating, draining from 100 to 0 is the best method of getting a good calibration. Additionally, while its healthy to do the mid charges most of the time, about once a month or so you should do a full drain. This helps keep the calibration accurate (remember that android will continue to modify the file, albeit at a greatly reduced level after the initial discharge of a new calibration, hence why that occasional full discharge is valuable). A full discharge once a month won't significantly reduce your battery's life expectancy.

cbowens said:
let it drain till it shuts itself off, try pressing the power button to make sure there's no remaining charge
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Draining a li-ion battery past the safe shut off is an easy way to damage or completely kill the battery. Your phone is set to shutdown before complete discharge for this reason. The full discharge then charge method was for NiCd batteries. This has no use for lithium-ion batteries.

regP said:
Draining a li-ion battery past the safe shut off is an easy way to damage or completely kill the battery. Your phone is set to shutdown before complete discharge for this reason. The full discharge then charge method was for NiCd batteries. This has no use for lithium-ion batteries.
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True, but the method of attempting to power back up won't actually drain it past the safe point. The point is bad calibrations (either from the factory or by an incomplete calibration) can cause the OS to shut the phone down prematurely during your new calibration run (before the actual safe cut off), resulting in the calibration being off scale. When you attempt to power the phone back on, if it is at the true safety cut off, it won't reactivate, where as if the calibration from before was skewed, it will allow it to boot back up and finish draining down to the safety cut off. This is in line with the reports of people having incorrect readings on battery %, where they have a low number, reset the phone, and suddenly seem to jump up 10 or 20%.

lobsterhead said:
@himmelhauk - I noticed in your signature that you have the Paul O'Brien fix... I saw in that thread that that noticeably increased speed/smoothness, but I haven't heard anybody talk about its influence on their battery. Have you noticed a difference in your battery life after making that tweak?
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I honestly don't know if it made any difference on battery life, as I did the battery calibration before I installed the fix. At any rate, I get much better battery life after the calibration for certain.
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cbowens said:
True, but the method of attempting to power back up won't actually drain it past the safe point. The point is bad calibrations (either from the factory or by an incomplete calibration) can cause the OS to shut the phone down prematurely during your new calibration run (before the actual safe cut off), resulting in the calibration being off scale. When you attempt to power the phone back on, if it is at the true safety cut off, it won't reactivate, where as if the calibration from before was skewed, it will allow it to boot back up and finish draining down to the safety cut off. This is in line with the reports of people having incorrect readings on battery %, where they have a low number, reset the phone, and suddenly seem to jump up 10 or 20%.
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I dunno about this phone but I know the galaxy s can still be powered on after the safe shut off and drained completely. People were doing exactly that and messing their batteries up. I would hate for people to misunderstand your post and end up making the same mistake. So the LG doesnt let you power on after the safe shutdown unless its connected to a charger? If so thats pretty good. In any case its a lot easy to just use clockwork, terminal emulator, or any other app to delete battery stats once your charged to 100%. No need to drain first

regP said:
I dunno about this phone but I know the galaxy s can still be powered on after the safe shut off and drained completely. People were doing exactly that and messing their batteries up. I would hate for people to misunderstand your post and end up making the same mistake. So the LG doesnt let you power on after the safe shutdown unless its connected to a charger? If so thats pretty good. In any case its a lot easy to just use clockwork, terminal emulator, or any other app to delete battery stats once your charged to 100%. No need to drain first
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I hadn't heard about the Galaxy S phones having that issue. Like I said, I came from the Eris and this method was the way to go with that phone, so perhaps its a manufacturer dependent function. In any case, I agree that the cwm method is better, but I meant my post to be accessable by those who may not have taken that particular plunge yet, since it only requires root. Thanks for the info though; its good to know in advanced that the safety shut off being unavoidable isn't a guarentee on all phones (though frankly it should be).
EDIT: Not sure if I'm reading it wrong, but it sounds like you thought I meant to drain the battery before calibrating, which isn't true; all you need to do precalibration is have the charge at 100%. The only time I was suggesting to drain it is during the actual calibration run, so that Android has a full scale of your battery's range. If thats not what you meant, than ignore this edit. Just wanted to make sure I was explaining myself correctly.

Also, if you open your battery cover and look at the battery, it's not suppose to go above 40 degrees celsius, or 104 degrees fahrenheit. I found that the temperature often goes past this, especially when watching movies for extended periods of time, or playing games, which leads to a significant decrease in battery life because heat and li-ion batteries are not a good combination.

andonnguyen said:
Also, if you open your battery cover and look at the battery, it's not suppose to go above 40 degrees celsius, or 104 degrees fahrenheit. I found that the temperature often goes past this, especially when watching movies for extended periods of time, or playing games, which leads to a significant decrease in battery life because heat and li-ion batteries are not a good combination.
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You can use SetCPU to make a profile according to battery temperature and underclock it when it gets to 40 degrees or something. I have profiles for when the screen is off and for temperature.

lobsterhead said:
You can use SetCPU to make a profile according to battery temperature and underclock it when it gets to 40 degrees or something. I have profiles for when the screen is off and for temperature.
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What r ur temp profiles
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[Q] Disappointed with the battery life... :(

Hi folks - this is the first thread I have started, hence requesting the non-noobs to go easy on me... (this forum is a scary-kind-of-cool)
I mustered up the courage to install Infused 1.5.0 on my stock... the instructions were superb and everything went great... really enjoying the improved speed and looks. But my battery life has degraded. It has been more than a week since I flashed my phone - and it is only getting worse. Now I have read a lot about how Infused is getting great battery life for some folks... and i have gone through those threads, trying to figure out what I am doing wrong. This is my typical usage profile
1) I put the phone on charging before I go to sleep... when I wake up (around 7 AM) it is fully charged.
2) I quickly check overnight messages, finish the daily ablutions, and 30 min later when I check the phone it is already at 95%.
3) By 10 AM, I have made a few long phone calls (no bluetooth) (totalling 60-90 minutes) - and the battery is down to 75%
4) At work I use a bluetooth A2DP headset - maybe 30-40 min of calls and by 12 I am at 50%.
5) More calls in the afternoon, intermitted mail checking and sometimes 30-40 minutes of music streaming on my bluetooth headset - and by 6 PM my phone is down to critical level 12-15%.
This is in now way the same experience that others are having with the Infused ROM and with the Infuse phone in general.
Other points:
6) I run Juice Defender... (don't know if it helps)
7) My screen brightness is just a few notches over 0%
8) My data is always on - except when I am using Wifi of course
9) I turn bluetooth off when I am not using it
So that's the story guys... and I would eternally grateful if the awesome folks out here can help me figure out what I am doing wrong... or there is some logic behind the sad battery life of what is otherwise the best phone that I have ever owned.

It depends how long Infused has been running on your system. After about 3 days I noticed my phone was adjusting to the ROM and the battery life improved significantly. Aside from that, try this trick. Drain your battery next to nothing and then charge all the way. Do this a couple of times. Not quite sure about the logistics but it seems to work. Another thing that has improved my battery life is to make sure I don't have background apps running. You can check this by going into apps > manage apps > and then running. Sometimes Media Hub will begin a background process and that eats up a whopping 8 MBs alone. Force close these pointless background apps and you should see an improvement there as well.

have you conditioned the battery and reset battery stats?

popesmasseuse said:
It depends how long Infused has been running on your system. After about 3 days I noticed my phone was adjusting to the ROM and the battery life improved significantly. Aside from that, try this trick. Drain your battery next to nothing and then charge all the way. Do this a couple of times. Not quite sure about the logistics but it seems to work. Another thing that has improved my battery life is to make sure I don't have background apps running. You can check this by going into apps > manage apps > and then running. Sometimes Media Hub will begin a background process and that eats up a whopping 8 MBs alone. Force close these pointless background apps and you should see an improvement there as well.
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Thanks popesmasseuse (you really aren't are you?)... the ROM has been running now for a week... gets worse rather than better. I do typically wait for my battery to drain completely before I charge it... but when I do have to do it at 7 PM - then I can never charge it fully, before I have to start using it again. I wonder if the fact that my phone goes through "micro charges" is a reason for my declining battery life...
Will check the running apps... and see if closing them improves things... thanks!

Fact: Installing a ROM greatly improves battery life... Try it....
Turn of GPS and Bluetooth when not in use.
Same here I uninstalled media hub... period... just useless...

Phone calls are a pretty heavy battery drain. Sounds like you're in call for hours each day. Most people don't talk on the phone more than a few minutes a day. Poor signal will also significantly reduce your battery life... how many bars you usually have at work?

My battery life got better the longer I had the infused ROM. But personally I only talk on the phone maybe a total of an hour each day, but I am constantly using internet and youtube, and if I have spare time I'm using my Kindle app to read some books. I keep my GPS, sync, and wifi on all day long and my brightness all the way up (I just can't stand a dim screen lol) and by the time I got home today my battery was at 40%, which I am perfectly fine with.

gtg465x said:
Phone calls are a pretty heavy battery drain. Sounds like you're in call for hours each day. Most people don't talk on the phone more than a few minutes a day. Poor signal will also significantly reduce your battery life... how many bars you usually have at work?
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Ah...the man himself.
Yes I talk a lot on the phone - nature of the job. 3 hours minimum in a day. Signal at home is terrible - 15% strength... that could be the reason why the battery runs dry after the morning routine. Any way to offset that?
At work signal is great. But in office I also tend to use my desk phone more...

hydrogenman said:
have you conditioned the battery and reset battery stats?
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Err... no... Noob alert!!!
How does one do that?

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=14912331&postcount=7
Read this post in another battery thread I am doing this right now to see how it performs afterwards.

Read the thread in my sig.
Never use task killers.
For me, battery life on phones gets good after about 2 weeks or so.
With light to medium use I can easily go for 2+ days.

Consider not streaming music through Bluetooth. Also don't auto sync stuff every 15 mins. If you can use Gmail they use Push notification. I'm on my phone all day literally and I make it home with some battery left. BTW connect to a Wi-Fi when ever possible, 3g data streaming will kill your battery quick.
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Blackberrynomore said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=14912331&postcount=7
Read this post in another battery thread I am doing this right now to see how it performs afterwards.
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has anyone tried this method?

It's a Lithium-Ion battery which means it does NOT respond to "conditioning".
"Reconditioning a battery involves completely discharging the energy from a battery then recharging the
battery. Li-Ion batteries do not require reconditioning to maintain good battery performance since Li-Ion
does not have a memory effect. It is necessary to complete drain and then recharge a Li-Ion battery in
order to determine its current capacity level, but that is not the same thing as reconditioning the battery. Li-
Ion batteries do not have a condition that needs to be reconditioned." lxe.com

andrawer said:
It's a Lithium-Ion battery which means it does NOT respond to "conditioning".
"Reconditioning a battery involves completely discharging the energy from a battery then recharging the
battery. Li-Ion batteries do not require reconditioning to maintain good battery performance since Li-Ion
does not have a memory effect. It is necessary to complete drain and then recharge a Li-Ion battery in
order to determine its current capacity level, but that is not the same thing as reconditioning the battery. Li-
Ion batteries do not have a condition that needs to be reconditioned." lxe.com
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Keiht's tutorial is effectively a technique called "bump charging" for putting that last extra percent or two of charge into a battery. However - with Li-Ion batteries, charging like this will SEVERELY reduce their charge cycle lifetime.
The only thing that "calibration" should affect is how your device reports battery charge level, NOT actual power usage. You should get the same total battery life whether your device is "calibrated" or not, with the exception possibly of the device shutting off prematurely because it thinks the battery is lower than it really is.

Entropy512 said:
Keiht's tutorial is effectively a technique called "bump charging" for putting that last extra percent or two of charge into a battery. However - with Li-Ion batteries, charging like this will SEVERELY reduce their charge cycle lifetime.
The only thing that "calibration" should affect is how your device reports battery charge level, NOT actual power usage. You should get the same total battery life whether your device is "calibrated" or not, with the exception possibly of the device shutting off prematurely because it thinks the battery is lower than it really is.
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I would have to agree with you. I followed his directions as i was having horrible battery issues after going to 1.5.0 and it seems to have helped the reporting as far as I can tell. I think the big problem and it is only a guess is how the phone is reporting the battery condition not actual battery left. In any event I am running JD and the longer I run with 1.5.0 the battery seems to be lasting a lot longer but I have ti disable most everything which hobbles the phones best features to get that battery life still searching for the perfect solution.

Innacurate battery stats?

If i charge my phone to 100%, use it for about 2-3 hours i have ~ 60%.
But if i want to restart my phone for example when it has 60%, after the restart it shows 82% or smth like that. So my question is, why the battery information isnt the same after a restart ? Is something
Another wierd battery stuff : If i charge it to 100% when using it decreseases by 2% once.
100 , 98 , 96 , then it start showing the numbers properly without skipping them.
Example. Today my battery drained and turned off like always, so the battery stat should be "0%". But when i pluged it in and after powering my phone reads the battery is 28%
What should i do? I already wiped the battery stats.

The battery percentage indicator is always just an approximation. Basically your device just gets the voltage and tries to guess the percentage with some knowledge about the behavior of the battery drain.
It's totally normal that you get different results after a reboot. I experienced this with different devices, so it's nothing specific to the Sensation.
I don't know what exactly the wiping of the battery stats does, but I would guess that you then need a few charging/discharging cycles in order to get it working properly.
Furthermore you should try to keep your battery charged all the time. Never discharge it completely, as this is one of the worst things you can do (at least with Li-Ion and/or Li-Po batteries).
Just another question: Do you have the original battery? Maybe you have some cheap battery with some cheap controller, which behaviors as such .

Its the battery from the original phone box.
Can u also please tell me how to calibrate step by step, and if u can recomment me a Sense-rom-like TaskManager for the CM7?

As said above I've no idea what "wipe battery stats" exactly does. Normally the manuals say something like "please fully charge and discharge your battery for 4 to 5 times". But maybe the "wipe battery stats" option invokes something else.
Personally I don't use any Task Manager. The general conclusion seems to be that Android (especially with the amount of RAM the Sensation got) can handle this for itself quite well. Android got some decent algorithms in order to decide whether an application is still needed and will close it (while saving most of the states within the application). When you open it the next time, Android will try to restore the state and you usually don't even realize what happened in the background. Any task manager will interfere here and shorten the battery life. So under normal circumstances you shouldn't need a task manager.
You just need to get used to the idea that the operating system decides what is best for you (or at least best for your battery life) and try to abstract a little from the "open/close" mindset we are used from our desktops for decades.

That fixed a lot of broken links in my mind.
Thanks.

If you still want to calibrate your battery (e.g. by wiping battery stats after charging it correctly and all that), just follow the general directions in these threads:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=937080
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=16808932
Just be aware of the fact that Current Widget seems to be wrong values for the sensation and that you need an app to find out what apps are causing battery drain (because that function is not available in Gingerbread anymore). Please refer to my post on another thread in order to work around these limitations:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=18193397&postcount=6
Good luck!

Battery life boost? It worked for me!

So this is probably a big issue with most people is how fast the battery drains.
I'll get right to the point. I swap roms like I change my underwear... every couple of weeks... ( that was a joke...) basically every day. What I've noticed is what happens to my battery after swapping roms it tends to read the battery life incorrect. EVEN after a battery stat wipe.
I charge my phone to 100%. Let it drain until it gives me a battery warning. (which is usually below 15%) then I remove the back cover and just yank the battery ( I know there are risks of doing this but I've done it a TON and never had any issues)
Funny thing is though, right after I pull the battery and then replace and reboot the phone, my 15% battery life left... is now a crazy 25%-30% left!
So android is reading the battery level incorrect. (even after a battery stat wipe)
Anyways after putting the battery back in, i'll charge it to 100%, then use the phone as needed from then on I have NO issue with battery life and it usually lasts me 15+ Hours with moderate to heavy usage IE: games, browsing, music, Facebook, etc.
Let me know if this drastically improves or at least improves your battery AT ALL like it does for me...

Pretty common in most 1st posts for rom threads and a general calibration method. Thanks for sharing anyway
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Well according to the 10+ battery issue threads I highly doubt its "common" for people to actually do it. So for those who are looking for something other than stupid apps that claim to "re-calibrate" your battery, or battery stats which claim to "reset" your battery which in my experience really doesn't solve anything, its just one more thing to add to the "hell, lets see if it'll work" option.

Errrrmm... This is not the fix. Battery reading jumps up after reboot, as reported by hundreds of users (including me) and then depletes rather quickly to real value.

[Q] The best way to calibrate a new akku?

Hello Guys, i bought a new mugen akku and dunno what´s the best way to calibrate it.
There are a few things that are confusing me:
1.Mugen Instructions: "Never drain battery to 0%"
(but that´s required for calibration, isn´t it?)
2.the battery got its full power after a few charges/discharges
(so would it be better to wait to calibrate the akku when it got its full power?)
So finally, should i wait with calibration or do it at the beginning? I think one time is necessary to let it go down to 0%.
So what are your advice?
thx in advance, l-viz

The way I calibrate mine is to discharge it completely so it turns off by itself (normally happens around 1 or 2%) then plug it into the charger and let it charge completely to 100%. Note that the LED will turn green at 90% .. so its not done yet!
Just my 2 coppers...
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You are just calibrating the battery meter on the phone, not the battery. People constantly abuse the terminology.
You don't need to drain the battery to zero, because the battery meter is not even remotely that accurate in the best of circumstances. Draining to 10 or even 20% is no different than draining to zero.
What CAN happen if you drain to zero, is you you may trip the safety circuit on the battery, and render the battery unable to take a charge, thereby rendering it useless. Its not very likely, and safeguards on the phone are designed to prevent this, but plenty of people on here have had it happen. Full power cycles (draining to zero) also shortens the long term life of the battery. Especially considering there is NO value added to draining the battery to zero, there is no point it doing so intentionally, and taking an unnecessary risk.
Just charge your battery to 100%, let it sit on the charger for a while after full, to make sure its really topped off. Then use the phone until 10-20%. Repeat this a couple times. You can also go into recovery and clear battery stats before you charge/discharge. But I haven't noticed this to make much of a difference.

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What CAN happen if you drain to zero, is you you may trip the safety circuit on the battery, and render the battery unable to take a charge, thereby rendering it useless. Its not very likely, and safeguards on the phone are designed to prevent this, but plenty of people on here have had it happen. Full power cycles (draining to zero) also shortens the long term life of the battery. Especially considering there is NO value added to draining the battery to zero, there is no point it doing so intentionally, and taking an unnecessary risk.
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Wow. I didn't know that. Thanks!
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Draining the battery to a literal 0% is almost impossible. Lithium ion batteries do not allow devices to utilize all the juice in a the battery. Once a device shuts off and tell you the battery is "dead", there's actually a bit more juice that is only used by the battery to prevent the battery's level from becoming too low.
Think of it like space partitions in hard drives. While you can use 100% of a single partition in a hard drive. There will still be space left over in the other partition.
Now what mugen means is to not allow the battery to reach the 0% of the ENTIRE battery. In order to make that happen you would have to discharge the battery until your device doesn't turn on and then NOT charge the battery for a very long period of time. I'm talking weeks and months of no charge whatsoever. Other than that, feel free to allow your phone to die and charge it back up. This in conjuction with deleting your battery stats file will speed up the calibration process.
Hope I helped out.
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UnSungHERO420 said:
Draining the battery to a literal 0% is almost impossible. Lithium ion batteries do not allow devices to utilize all the juice in a the battery. Once a device shuts off and tell you the battery is "dead", there's actually a bit more juice that is only used by the battery to prevent the battery's level from becoming too low.
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What is supposed to happen with the failsafes on the device and what ACTUALLY happens unfortunately are not one and the same. There have been plenty of people here that have let their batteries drain to zero, and then the battery will no longer take a charge.
True, the battery is not actually zero voltage. But its low enough that the safety circuit on the battery will prevent it from accepting a charge. The phone is SUPPOSED to prevent the voltage from dipping that low, but it doesn't always work. So the only way to bring the battery back to life, is with a special battery meter with a "boost" function. Since the vast majority of us do not have access to such a thing, the battery is effectively dead, as buying one is likely cheaper and easier than getting access to such a battery meter.
As I've already mentioned, this is unlikely to happen. But its happened to at least a few people with our phone, and I've seen it happen to other XDA users with other devices. No point in playing probabilities, if it happens to you, it sucks and it doesn't matter how "almost impossible" its supposed to be. As I already discussed, the battery meters on phones are not even close to accurate enough to read single, or even 5% battery increments. So draining to zero is not any more beneficial than draining to 10%. No benefit in draining to zero, so why risk it?

I have learned the hard way that discharging lithium ion batteries below 20% is the fastest way to kill them early! (greatly shorten their life)

thanks 4 replies, a lot of useful knowledge