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Ok, I was an early adopter of this phone bought it the day it came out July 18th. There are a great many things that disappoint me about this phone, main thing being lack of Froyo at the moment. I'm tired of waiting for samsung, I have little faith it will truely resolve my issues which are the following
In order to use wifi I must reboot my phone, this only occurred after the official JH7 was loaded on it through the over the air update that ATT did.
Constantly having lag all the time, and having apps running that I never ever use and dont want such as ATT Navigator, ATT Family Map, etc. I was able to root the phone and get rid of those but it really hasnt helped.
My stereo bluetooth headphones must be paired EVERY single time I want to use them, its not the headphones because they work perfectly with 4 other devices.
Of course the GPS, it sucks for everyone, any of these or all fix that? Samsung seems unwilling.
So maybe I'm wishing too much but I've watched almost every youtube review of the ROMs that are out there and theres a few details that stick out for things that I want in a rom so I'll detail them here and hopefully someone can point me in the right direction as to which one has the best combo.
1. froyo based, I need 2.2 for certain apps
2. I've heard theres different modems that can affect HSPA, I want fastest download and upload.
3. No wild color schemes, I dont like orange or green. I quite like the look of the phone I think samsung did a great job with the touchwiz and I know theres alot of you out there that perfer the "vanilla" versions of Android. I'm not one of those people. I really loved the look of the cognition rom and some of the things it had visually.
4. Overclocking would be nice but not at the expense of battery life, I'm right in the 24-30 hour range just as most are on here, better would be great if possible.
Go to romkitchen.org and build your own there. There are many threads about the advantages of one modem over another, and you can pick pretty much everything yourself. Then search for CLShortfuse's GPS fix and you'll be set.
Don't worry, its extremely easy
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24-30 hours of what kind of use? There are a couple roms out there with stock appearance
Cognition
Perception
Precision
Andromeda
Docs
30 hours, you have to consider what you are asking. I want faster dl, no lag, better gps, but I don't want to eat any more battery. It is possible to get 30hrs of light to moderate use. Heavy use will yield 12-18
Andromeda v1.2 is a rom that is pretty vanilla....simple and has the things your looking for. You have to try roms that you think will be what you want.
rodimus_prime said:
Ok, I was an early adopter of this phone bought it the day it came out July 18th. There are a great many things that disappoint me about this phone, main thing being lack of Froyo at the moment. I'm tired of waiting for samsung, I have little faith it will truely resolve my issues which are the following
In order to use wifi I must reboot my phone, this only occurred after the official JH7 was loaded on it through the over the air update that ATT did.
Constantly having lag all the time, and having apps running that I never ever use and dont want such as ATT Navigator, ATT Family Map, etc. I was able to root the phone and get rid of those but it really hasnt helped.
My stereo bluetooth headphones must be paired EVERY single time I want to use them, its not the headphones because they work perfectly with 4 other devices.
Of course the GPS, it sucks for everyone, any of these or all fix that? Samsung seems unwilling.
So maybe I'm wishing too much but I've watched almost every youtube review of the ROMs that are out there and theres a few details that stick out for things that I want in a rom so I'll detail them here and hopefully someone can point me in the right direction as to which one has the best combo.
1. froyo based, I need 2.2 for certain apps
2. I've heard theres different modems that can affect HSPA, I want fastest download and upload.
3. No wild color schemes, I dont like orange or green. I quite like the look of the phone I think samsung did a great job with the touchwiz and I know theres alot of you out there that perfer the "vanilla" versions of Android. I'm not one of those people. I really loved the look of the cognition rom and some of the things it had visually.
4. Overclocking would be nice but not at the expense of battery life, I'm right in the 24-30 hour range just as most are on here, better would be great if possible.
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shoman94 said:
Andromeda v1.2 is a rom that is pretty vanilla....simple and has the things your looking for.
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+2 for Andromeda 1.2.
You can fix all of these if you root the phone. The best ROM out there is the Rom Kitchen (aka "Doc's ROMs") over at romkitchen.org. You can "cook up" your own ROMs using the specifications you want. This is what is so great about the ROM kitchen, especially when compared to the other ROMs like Cognition: you can pick what you want, and don't have to take whatever it was that someone else decided was best. For example, if you want the benefits of rooting but want to keep touchwiz, the ROM kitchen has an option for that. It also lets you pick things like the theme, boot animation, apps, etc. There are 5 captivate modems, and you might just have to experiment to see which one is best. I did this, and it was well worth it. The one that worked best for me was the XXJPP modem. Just load a seperate ROM with each of the different modems, flash each, and download a few things to see which is faster. Also check and see how well the GPS works on each.
Rooting will fix the lag, although one of the ROM kitchen kernels (Glitterball's Voodoo) will improve it even further. There is something called "Project Voodoo" which is a community of developers who build a kernel tweak called Voodoo which completely fixes the remaining lag issue (this is caused by the inefficient way the captivate organizes its folders), and also improves a few other features such as resolution.
You should go try out my ROM its small and fast and stable. I'm getting great battery life and DL/UL speeds. Give it a shot.
Here.
Well I decided to go with the serendipity 5.9, I love the speed, my upload and download speeds almost doubled, bluetooth and wifi finally work like they are supposed to!!
I do have a few complaints though, like the keyboard for texting, I loved the samsung one, I hate swipe any way i can get the stock one back on there?
rodimus_prime said:
Well I decided to go with the serendipity 5.9, I love the speed, my upload and download speeds almost doubled, bluetooth and wifi finally work like they are supposed to!!
I do have a few complaints though, like the keyboard for texting, I loved the samsung one, I hate swipe any way i can get the stock one back on there?
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Use the add on kitchen and add samsung keyboard. download zip and flash.
rodimus_prime said:
I do have a few complaints though, like the keyboard for texting, I loved the samsung one, I hate swipe any way i can get the stock one back on there?
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It comes with the Gingerbread keyboard as well.
However, if you're still interested in the Samsung keyboard, it's in here:
http://serendipityrom.weebly.com/add-ons.html
I just found that, wow, short of having a flash on the camera and video chat this phone is now everything I could have ever dreamed of
Holy crap what a difference. Everything actually works and is super fast. I would be on cloud nine right now except for the fact I'm probably soon getting the Atrix, this will def hold me over till then.
Im using Precision 3.5 with the monochrome 3.5 theme. Its running the latest suckerpunch kernel. For sure my favorite combo I've tried so far. Its really amazing, not to mention dev'd by ryude, who is one of the best!
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Samsung Captivate running Serendipity 5.12 Paragon6 1200-100hz (uv'd and slightly oc'd) and I9000XXJVE modem. Almost have it edited/themed up how I want it. Need to get started on custom icons and I think I want to try my hand at a completely custom framework. Anyway, I was perfectly happy with 'dipity out of the box, but since I've flashed Paragon this phone is AMAZING. It's quite fast and the battery seems to last forever. Just now recharging for the first cycle after having to reflash my rom w/o a full battery, so after today I'll know for sure how long the battery last, but initially it seems like I'll get a day or so with my daughter constantly playing video's and games all day.
I have tried the team phoenix roms. I'm currently running phoenix 7.0 and am happy so far.
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I am running phoenix. 7 with latest paragon 1200 rom using uv and this is by far the best combo I have had yet. Using jl3 modem and call quality is great. I change roms almost daily and this one will be here for a while, I am happy with everything this combo has to offer and speed and battery life is excellent.
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Samsung Captivate running Serendipity 5.12 Paragon6 1200-100hz (uv'd and slightly oc'd) and I9000XXJVE modem. Almost have it edited/themed up how I want it. Need to get started on custom icons and I think I want to try my hand at a completely custom framework. Anyway, I was perfectly happy with 'dipity out of the box, but since I've flashed Paragon this phone is AMAZING. It's quite fast and the battery seems to last forever. Just now recharging for the first cycle after having to reflash my rom w/o a full battery, so after today I'll know for sure how long the battery last, but initially it seems like I'll get a day or so with my daughter constantly playing video's and games all day.
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...How quickly things change, now running Serendipity 6 with all the above still the same.. although I think I may flash the 1400 Paragon and try that out..
just went up to Serendipity 6.2 yesterday, same battery issues again im trying to do what I did last time to fix that part
busy day though, just got an ipad last night been trying to ha0xr that thing, no luck on jailbreaking 4.3 yet though
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just went up to Serendipity 6.2 yesterday, same battery issues again im trying to do what I did last time to fix that part
busy day though, just got an ipad last night been trying to ha0xr that thing, no luck on jailbreaking 4.3 yet though
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14:25:12 uptime, moderate use and I'm t 70%
I guess every phone is different...
im still working through my first charge after wiping the battery stats so im sure it will be better once I cycle through
In those screen shots posted how did you get those multiple icons at the bottom? i mean other than the stock serendipity theme. im running the redrom right now, i dont want to lose the red but i would like the more icons at the bottom other than the phone the :: for app tray and the globe for internet
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In those screen shots posted how did you get those multiple icons at the bottom? i mean other than the stock serendipity theme. im running the redrom right now, i dont want to lose the red but i would like the more icons at the bottom other than the phone the :: for app tray and the globe for internet
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I wouldn't mind knowing either. I'm thinking it's a different launcher, but I'm only guessing. Still kinda new to android.
TB is my very first android, and i have come a long way, but maybe not long enough
as i can not for the life of me understand why everyone nut over the rom dubbed as cm7?
why???
I have been on almost single rom on the TB, and countless updates on each of them..
what is so special about CM7? do you prefer running linux?? why not run windows 3.1 on your quad core computers?
is it nostalgic?? or does it simply remind you of your ex girlfriend that you loved?
I know the dev team for the CM7 works very hard but so does every other dev.
So is it because cyanogen mod are simply better developers, and with their code other devs could build their rom with their findings..
i need to know, in order to get to the promise land
I guess some people hate anything other than stock android. But tbh I can't stand stock android. It is so boring and not polished.sense is so nice. But cyanogenmod is really fast and responsive. And battery life is a factor
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i'm sure a full fledged cm7 has good battery life.
not the current one. everything else seems to have better battery life
Its not bloated with extra crap. I love sense but to me CM7 always seems to be the fastest rom I run on my TB. It started out really popular with the TB because it was the only way for people to get gingerbread on their TB. It has grown so much and is finally, in my opinion nearly perfect. Its been a great trip and people have stayed with it till now and it has been well worth the wait. Stock android(for the most part) is a nice breath of fresh air.
droidisftw said:
I guess some people hate anything other than stock android. But tbh I can't stand stock android. It is so boring and not polished.sense is so nice. But cyanogenmod is really fast and responsive. And battery life is a factor
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It's not really stock android. It's close, but there's many improvements that work well with the system. OMFGB is much more vanilla than CM7. It's also 100% opensource (unlike sense roms and aosp roms like miui) which is useful if you care about more than the rom because you like to hack around on the source and don't trust certain roms like miui (no offense, but I am not using a rom made by chinese with no source given, just too creepy for me as far as how much control you are giving them aside from the fact they give back nothing to the community).
For the OP's information, there's plenty of information out there (including articles on wired and many screen casts on youtube) about CM7, besides their own site/wiki/forums/irc channel
there is much about cm7 that you don't know.
start here for a very small list of features... http://www.cyanogenmod.com/about/features
but this list barely scratches the surface. none of my favorite features are even listed here, and the cyanogen settings menu has literally hundreds (thousands?) of additional modifications you can make to your device.
i flashed cm7 for the first time about a month ago, and i won't ever be able to run sense again. i've been converted
phooky said:
there is much about cm7 that you don't know about.
start here for a very small list of features... http://www.cyanogenmod.com/about/features
but this list barely scratches the surface. none of my favorite features are even listed here, and the cyanogen settings menu has literally hundreds of additional modifications you can make to your device.
i flashed cm7 for the first time about a month ago, and i won't ever be able to run sense again. i've been converted
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yeah tons of features you only wish other roms had most of the time. I love the media track skip via the volume buttons with the screen off (similar to what blackberry does). Makes it way easier to switch songs or repeat one when you are running.
Its cause we want android without all the battery hogging and performance issues associated with crap like motoblur, sense, touchwiz etc. Plus cm7 has so much more features than being basically a asop rom. Its provides a lot of customization with your phone, which is what andrioid is all about.
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Everything just works on CM7. I can use wimotes for my emulators.
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I like the simplicity of stock-ish Android and all the tweaks and customizations CM offers. Sense is nice and all but way too heavy for my enjoyment.
I've only used CM7 on my nook color and was very impressed by its responsiveness and options. I heard of using Android OS's with overlapping UI but I figured this would only hamper on the overall user experience. I'm def open to different versions of Android for tablets. Any suggestions?
Hello my name is _________, and I'm addicted to CM7..............
Another cool factor is that it's available for so many different phones. I had CM7 on my EVO with Sprint. When I got my Thunderbolt I immediately rooted it and flashed CM7. There is a CM7 build for every major carrier in the U.S., So as long as you chose a supported phone your not stuck with some crappy user interface or an older version of Android. The main reason I chose the Thunderbolt over other Verizon 4G phones was that there was a CM7 ROM for it, but then again I'm an addict.
ddgarcia05 said:
Everything just works on CM7. I can use wimotes for my emulators.
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really? Then why are there all these threads about what is broken on cm7?
to prove my point of cm7 not being all that great on the thunderbolt, from page 1 of the thunderbolt general forums right now:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1185757
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1185459
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1163043
Some of my favorite features:
- skip tracks w/vol keys
- swipe notification bar to adjust brightness
- lockscreen gestures
- custom long press home/menu/search options
- long press back to kill current app
- hundreds of themes easily switched via Theme Chooser
- incoming calls in background when screen on
- permission management
- any app to sd
- built in performance and overclocking settings
...just to name a few. The real question is why do so many people have such a deep hatred of CM7? If you don't like the ROM you don't like it. Why make such a big stink out of it? If others want to like it then let them be
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i remember putting CM on the first phone i rooted, the MyTouch 3G... and it was the only one i ever used on that phone. This time around, i've experimented and tried out just about every single ROM for the TB. This time i would say that Synergy is my fav only because i managed to get better battery life with it then CM7(and its overclocked).
that plus, i know its ridiculous but i prefer for the green light to come on when the battery is at 100%, not 90%(yes i know that's just how AOSP ROMs are). im just use to going "oh green light, time to unplug".
jesusice said:
Some of my favorite features:
- skip tracks w/vol keys
- swipe notification bar to adjust brightness
- lockscreen gestures
- custom long press home/menu/search options
- long press back to kill current app
- hundreds of themes easily switched via Theme Chooser
- incoming calls in background when screen on
- permission management
- any app to sd
- built in performance and overclocking settings
...just to name a few. The real question is why do so many people have such a deep hatred of CM7? If you don't like the ROM you don't like it. Why make such a big stink out of it? If others want to like it then let them be
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who says we hate cm7? I just said it wasn't the best thunderbolt ROM. It's quite buggy as far as cm7 builds go.
I guess my point is that if this is your first time using cm7, would you be defending it as much.
nrfitchett4 said:
who says we hate cm7? I just said it wasn't the best thunderbolt ROM. It's quite buggy as far as cm7 builds go.
I guess my point is that if this is your first time using cm7, would you be defending it as much.
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Like I said, if you like it you like it. If you don't you don't. Starting threads calling out a particular ROM seems a little haterish.
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Like I said, if you like it you like it. If you don't you don't. Starting threads calling out a particular ROM seems a little haterish.
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I think he was just looking for pros and cons of the ROM more than calling it out.
Thread is not titled
"CM7 Sucks!"
I rarely use CM, but I think it is a really good ROM, with a good team behind it. Also, basically anyone who is into rooting/romming/modding their Android phone owes something to the CM team, in one way or another. I personally don't like it because, and this is hard to explain, it is almost too good. Lol. It feels like a stock, out-of-box software. I know there are tons of settings, and it runs great often times, but it just lacks the pizazz that I'm looking for. Not like overly flashy drag your phone down kinda stuff, but just a little something extra.
That being said, I, again, really appreciate the rom. I am currently using it on my Thunderbolt until we get some ROMs based off of the OTA if it ever comes, and have also used it on my D1 and Incredible.
As I was working on trying to port CM6/CM7, I realized that it is much more time effective for me to port the tweaks involved with CM6/7, rather than trying to actually port the whole thing. So with that in mind, what tweaks/aspects of CM6/7 do people like/would like to see on our phone?
Bear in mind that because CM7 is GingerBread, so although I will try my best, I can't promise that features from CM7 are portable. CM6 features should be portable, but I *promise* nothing, and will try my best otherwise.
Currently working on
An extra menu in settings to control all this crap
REQUESTS
:LED Settings that are actually helpful/useful (pending)
:Camera on Low Bat (pending)
:Customizable Power Notification (pending)
Requests that probably aren't going to happen
CM7 (until a GB source release from Samsung for our phone or a very generous donation that gives me a reason to spend a month porting a kernel)
CM7 Theme Support (built on the GB API, all themes are Gingerbread minimum API anyways).
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i think the lockscreen gestures would be awesome
theme support would be cool ( dont know if thats possible)
led settings would be nice
I mentioned this to you before, but I thought i'd post here and see if anyone else responds: how about an optional flashable tweak, if possible, for those who want to be able to use their camera on low battery and don't want their screen dimmed and keyboard blacked out. (I know you can brighten the screen on low batt., but you have to do it every time after waking the phone from sleep). I believe on CM7 the phone simply functions normally until the battery dies.
I'll definitely look at the battery tweaks as that should be fairly easy to find, as for the theme manager, the issue is that its built from the GB API, as are all the themes. So even if the theme manager were ported, none of the themes would install as they would require a higher OS version
Customizable notification power control bar. What we have is decent enough. But I always liked that about CM series, being able to customize.
Touchwiz power control is good enough so no need to put this as a high-demand feature.
Are you still working on porting CM? I'd rather wait for CM than just flash tweaks every now and then.
I agree instead of porting u should at least try port cm6 which is froyo that would be awesome till we get a gingerbread kernel leak which krylon is looking into
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Porting CM6 will take me at least another month. That's what I was working on the past 2 weeks, but its all the same problem. CM6 and CM7 both require a ported kernel (2.6.35), which is very tedious and frustrating given the parts that were added to our phone.
Yea I saw that when I was looking into it I'm trying to get in contact with a samsung team on xda see if the help us out to get this ported
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What I'm saying with this thread is, we can essentially build CM6 on our phones, without the official title and all the extra work in porting a kernel, if we just build the parts in that make CM6 different from stock.
So that's my goal, to add enough parts to this that it will be similar to CM6 in functionality.
That's a great idea I just don't know what we can use lol
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The way I see it, although I love CM and would love to see it on this phone just as much as the next guy, I don't see a whole ton of stuff that's in CM that's not in our stuff already. So if I can focus on the things that people actually use from CM, I can build things that people want in CM, rather than trying to build CM.
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The way I see it, although I love CM and would love to see it on this phone just as much as the next guy, I don't see a whole ton of stuff that's in CM that's not in our stuff already. So if I can focus on the things that people actually use from CM, I can build things that people want in CM, rather than trying to build CM.
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Makes sense, considering you're the only one working on it, that I've heard. If it takes time to port a whole thing over, why not cut time down and just port that parts you love about CM.
Honestly, with the work you and ayoteddy have been doing for our phones, Cyanogen isn't a big deal to me. I mean, this may be off-topic, but the only things I do want are to completely eliminate that keyboard lag and to keep the keyboard backlight lit whenever open. Other than that, you guys have tweaked and optimized the phone so much already.
I haven't seen any keyboard lag, where do you see this? I'll look at the keyboard backlight thing shortly, currently working on an extra menu in settings to control all the tweaks I'm adding.
I'll also add a requests list to the OP shortly. EDIT: added.
When typing quickly some inputs may skip. I read the Samsung Epic had the same problem. That phone had a fix for the keyboard lag.
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When typing quickly some inputs may skip. I read the Samsung Epic had the same problem. That phone had a fix for the keyboard lag.
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Ahhh! So it happens to others too. i thought i just was messing up..i was like..i never messed up before. yess, this happens to me too and it sucks. makes uo type ike tis. (missing letters, but not that frequent)
Yeah. Just like that. It's worse when you're typing on an app that uses more resources, like typing on a web browser on an html page. Or when the facebook app is refreshing the feed while you type a status.
I contacted the developer who made the keyboard patch for the Epic(he really fixed the problem up good on that device!). he made a similar patch for us, for the Sidekick, I've just been too half-assed about learning how to apply the patch to our kernel, lol.
you guys can read what he wrote and find the patch he made us here, at the end of the thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=975611
apparently, our phone shouldn't suffer nearly as bad as the Epic, but he still made us a patch to make our keypad timer delay configurable by the user!
Edit: for some reason, the letter that skips the most on my phone is the "y", haha.
I don't know much about CM, but I'd really love the option to use landscape software keyboards. I am astonished that DSamsung actually chose to BLOCK THE FEATURE, een if we PAY to download a non stock keyboard.
The keyboard fix for the epic won't work for the Sidekick, because the change that was made to fix the epic issue was already there from Samsung
so, i'm done &%$#ing around with the crapware Samsung hacks onto their phones. I appreciate the work some of you guys have done with roms on this device, but the facts is its all just reskinned and modded versions of an android that's been made innately flawed. the Titanic's deck chairs have been beautifully rearranged, but it's still going down. case in point: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1286443
as such, i've decided to offer a bounty (that hopefully others can add a little here and there to) to he who first gets true stock android (minimum 2.2 or higher) running on this phone. i'm starting the bidding at $75, to be paid over paypal, or check in the mail or whatever. if you can make it 2.3, I'll throw in another $25.
terms: as stated, minimum 2.2, REAL stock, root, with the stock apps and nothing else. it must be fully functional and stable (and not just "well it's stable compared to X piece of crap" I mean nearly nexus stable.) I'll need to test it of course, I'm thinking for a week a week and a half or so. at that point, if I can determine that you've reasonably satisfied the terms, you win. the offer's up until/unless a comparable phone (min. 1ghz, real keyboard and all 4 real face buttons) is hacked to run true stock, or is officially released with stock, but it doesn't look like OEMs will get their heads far enough out for that very soon. also you have to be the first, although if someone beats you, but then you get a newer stock version on it under the above terms, you can still have the bonus, which I may increase. note there's also the issue of the Sidekick's Jump button. I imagine some will want it to be a search button, but I find that the trackball click works better for that, and I kind of like the Jump menu coming up with a list of all recently used apps. so I would like it if you could keep that function if possible, or something like it. EDIT I previously stated that my bounty was up to $200 if you can get ICS on the Sidekick with the Jump button launching the app switcher menu. However, the news just broke that ICS on the Galaxy Nexus has no USB mass storage support. I don't know if it's because ICS in general can't do it, will eventually be able to do it with an update, or because of a particular issue with that one phone. But I'm not going to tolerate a downgrade to iPhone level functionality, so the ICS bounty is only valid if it has USB storage working.
as stated above, I'd love to encourage the community to add to the pot as well, do that and we can really get this thing jump started. most recent bounty amount as of October 23, the community's pledges plus mine has increased the bounty to at least $155 (plus an unspecified amount from vicmora) for 2.2, and $255 for 2.3., and $380 for ICS (4.0) (with USB mass storage). also, an extra $25 in addition to all that from the86d if you give us the option of the dialer he wants (check post 12) *edit* btw guys, if you do want to add to the pot, please say how much, just so we can keep track for the devs.
*NOTE* to those who will say it can't be done, we don't have firmware leaks, blah blah blah: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yO2KQHkt4A in addition, some have even managed to install Android on the iPhone. if we can install Android on an iPhone, we can install Android on an Android phone. also, yesterday the Cyanogen team released 7.1, which works on a ridiculous amount of phones, including the laughably craptastic motorola backflip, which has a 528 MHz processor and was only upgraded officially to Android 2.1. now, if you scroll to the bottom of the page, you'll notice an icon, just below the message list, saying "Next Thread>>" please use this button to lead, follow, or get out of the way.
I'll throw in if it's true stock/gingerbread.
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I'll drop another $25 to the team, but I was told that this couldn't be done when I posted my bounty...
Vanirra... Mmmmmmmm.
I'll add to the pot. And it can definitely be done.
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I'm suprised that there's no cm7 kangs yet. Maybe this bounty will get things moving before someone renames the section to "Lack of development."
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A cm7 kang would require a kangable kernel. Which as of yet has not happened.
All the AOSP/CM7/non-samsung-junkware ports require getting a 2.6.35.x kernel to run on the Sidekick, which is difficult, as there has been no source released for the processor type that is within the Sidekick. I was talking with the devs who managed to hack the hell out of the SGS4G to get MIUI running on it, and they had said they would upload their source when they get the kinks worked out, which would make it possible to build for the Sidekick (same processor type).
For those who are about to go look for one of the leak threads in the SGS4g section, we need real source, not a compiled kernel, but the kernel source, so that would not work.
I see we have three additional donors, that's good progress. any way we can sticky this? I don't know who's in charge of that here.
P.S. if you want to throw in, make sure to post how much you're willing to add, that way we can keep track. if the three of you are each adding $25 as I assume, that puts us up to $150, $175 if you can make it Gingerbread. keep it coming yall!
I will donate for the cause as well,, this phone is really pissing me off i might as well start looking for a new one if theres no significant advancement in development
$25.00 here for Gingerbread. I've already started looking for a new phone. If I have to be stuck on froyo then I don't want this phone.
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(Oh, the money I drop into Open Source related donations... hahahaaaaa)
Make mine 50$.
This would be a pretty nice phone if someone gave it some attention...
Ps, I will be able to donate that cash end of the month .
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Actually if "Back" in Contacts doesn't hit the home screen after a contacts search, but brings you back to a clear contacts search like every other device I have owned, AND if contacts is "Cyanogen-Style" integrated into the dialer, I will drop $50 at the end of the month, not $25... Small price to pay for helping make the world better for so many people.
Just use "Dialer One" (free in Market). On launch you get a dial-pad and your call history on top. To dial anyone I just type 3 (or more) letters of their name or number.
I can dial Ryan McCormick by typing RY (79), MCC (622), or even ORM (676). Any 3 consecutive letters (or numbers) that appear in their name or phone #, and I have a list of 1 or more matches at the top. Click one and you are dialing. I never scroll at all when dialing anyone, and I have over 500 contacts. 3 letters almost always gets who ever you want on the top of the list (use 4 or 5 if not, these are big num-pad T9 characters, not a full keyboard).
Settings: Black Theme, Disable Action Bar, Call by Clicking, Hide the Dial Button, Disable Swipe (speed-dial/contacts pages are useless when you can just smartdial any contact instantly... unless you like scrolling to decide who you should call).
Tried it for a (pre-)beta of Gingerclone V2, and hated it.
Vanilla(CM, OG Droid) was the most efficient, and logical.
Check out how much RAM that Dialer One app is eating up with it's background service... My review in the market got deleted, but the fact remains.
Your Sidekick doesn't have a generous amount of memory to begin with. You can't afford to have a huge list of services eating your device's memory. I remember Dialer One was the most resource hungry dialer replacement I have tested.
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(The bastages at Samsung try to use every bit of the CPU cycles, and TouchWiz has major memory leaks or something on every thing they make. I wish all these MFRs of phones would just make a good phone running Vanilla (Nexus K?) with a big keyboard w/ dedicated number and cursor keys (up, down, left, right), 4" screen, dedicated numbers, and no stupid memory leaking tie-in to a crappy modded interface! I don't even need a dual core processor.
"None" of this would have to happen. But that would be an Epic 4g running cyanogen with T-mobile's 4g service... and coverage.)
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Check out how much RAM that Dialer One app is eating up with it's background service... My review in the market got deleted, but the fact remains.
Your Sidekick doesn't have a generous amount of memory to begin with. You can't afford to have a huge list of services eating your device's memory. I remember Dialer One was the most resource hungry dialer replacement I have tested.
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So, I installed multiple process/service managers to try to figure out what you are talking about, but on my phone, Dialer One doesn't have a background service at all. It shows when you run it. If you press back to exit it, it is gone and uses no memory at all.
My services are as follows:
G+ - CloudSyncWatcher
Maps - NetworkLocationService
GoogleVoice - CallLogService, UpdateService
FaceBook - UploadManager
Music - DownloadManager, ArtDownloadService
Google Services Framework - Google Messaging Service
SNS - SnsService
Device Managment - DMSService
DRM Content - OmaDrmConfigService
News and Weather - GenieRefreshService
Light Flow - MainRunningService
AppStore
SwiftKey X - KeyboardService
I always have about 60MB available memory, my phone runs smooth as butter, and my battery lasts 30hours on WiFi (10 on 4G).
The defaults for DialerOne suck (like most apps). Configure it properly and it is the only Dialer I have ever found (tested about 10 a year ago, plus tried many stock dialers on many phones including older CM builds) that properly allows you to easily dial anyone you have recently talked to (call log on home-screen), and easily find anyone in a huge address book (3 keys on the 0-9 num pad finds all results in firstname/lastname/number and lists them in order of recently called).
All other dialers I have tested do not work properly. If you want to call Joe Smith at (800)555-1212, I should be able to type "JOE", "SMI", "800", or "555" and see him in a scrollable list (no drop-down) ordered by last called (with at least 3 choices visible without scrolling). Almost no one else does that properly. The few that do sort alphabetically instead of by Call-History order. If there is a Free alternative to DialerOne that works properly and people prefer, please tell me and I will give it a try.
FYI: That's how the stock dialer on Windows Mobile 5.x/6.x always worked for over a decade (as well as many old flip-phones). Why default Android, iPhone, and others don't do proper "Smart-Dial" without an app like DialerOne is beyond me.
On topic: The OP should update the first post with all the pledge amounts.
Sorry to keep being OT, but I wanted to respond to this one too...
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(The bastages at Samsung try to use every bit of the CPU cycles, and TouchWiz has major memory leaks or something on every thing they make. I wish all these MFRs of phones would just make a good phone running Vanilla (Nexus K?) with a big keyboard w/ dedicated number and cursor keys (up, down, left, right), 4" screen, dedicated numbers, and no stupid memory leaking tie-in to a crappy modded interface! I don't even need a dual core processor.
"None" of this would have to happen. But that would be an Epic 4g running cyanogen with T-mobile's 4g service... and coverage.)
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Amen to that... 5-row with arrow-keys is what I want too. However, my mom has the Epic 4G, and even with the CM rom and the huge battery (making the phone 0.8inch thick), my SideKick still has way better battery life, and the keyboard feels much better (Epic's keys are flat and too close to each other causing typos). If the SideKick 4G just had a little bigger edge-to-edge screen, a better camera /w flash, and arrow-keys (and maybe a dual-core), it would be the perfect phone. I love the raised edges (the G1 had one raised edge, and no other sliders do). Plus the Epic has touch-function-keys that you can't even see when the LED behind them is off. I really like the hard buttons, especially for Back (and I've come to love the 2 on top, 2 on bottom layout of function-keys on the SK4G too).
I wonder if someone could mod our keyboard for arrow keys... right-shift = right, mic = down, ? = left, = up. (plus Alt-. = ? so we don't lose that)
Do we have any progress as of yet?
Is this a dead (w)hor(s)e we are beating?
Not even one person with an update?
Hey all,
I am not a modder. I prefer my device to be stock as much as possible - I know, not very XDA-like. I am not averse to doing it if necessary.
TMo gave me the MT4G Slide as a replacement device for the MT4G which was having issues. It seems that neither phones are getting an ICS/JB update (as HTC hasn't mentioned it on their list of phones officially getting the update).
I'm curious as to any hardware constraints that the Doubleshot may have to have lead to this decision. Some folks have mentioned the amt. of storage being the issue, but seeing as how these devices contain a 4GB chip and HTC has been quoted saying that this unusable space is due to GB and Sense, is this reason validated? Would ICS+Sense be that much more huge vs. GB+Sense as to not be able to fit in that ~2.5GB of space?
This has probably been a very badly beaten dead horse, but I did a search and couldn't really find anything referenced here on XDA. I see there's some moment on CM9 for the phone...but ultimately I want to know why HTC can't put ICS/JB on the device. It's an important factor in deciding to either stay loyal to the brand or move on to something different. I realize that it's an OEM (TMo branded phone) and that it may be up to TMobile to get it updated, which I'm assuming they would under their "no phone left behind" promise...maybe I assume incorrectly? TMobile hasn't said a thing on the matter.
I may go ahead and put CM9 on it once it's gone 100% stable.
Thanks.
It's not that they CAN'T upgrade to ICS/JB. They WON'T, for just about any reason you can make up. T-Mobile or HTC have not given any official word as to why not, so it could be due to anything.
Possible reasons include:
-Custom MyTouch skin
-T-Mobile holding the update back
-Our phone is essentially a commercial flop. Probably why they're not supporting it. Consequently, we're not a big enough community to make a difference anyway.
-They simply want you to buy another phone.
There is no physical reason they won't do it. Our phone has nearly the same internals as the Sensation 4G. It's still a high spec phone and can handle anything. Hardware is not the problem here. It's the higher ups.
I would like to add that if you don't want to wait, TBalden's Virtuious Inquisition has always been a rock solid ICS ROM for me. NEVER a hiccup even though there have been a few complain of an issue or two. But it will most likely always be that way with any ROM.....even the official releases.
There are a couple of ICSs by UndeadK9 on Rootz Wiki too that are slick. Then there is MikMiui ICS that is soooo close it's scary! KWIM? You HAVE choices right now.
ICS natively doesn't support Hardware Keyboards. That's why our device is under review by HTC/T-Mobile. HTC is willing to push an update, but T-Mobile has it on hold. So it's T-Mobiles fault, not HTC. How do I know this? Worked places, and have numbers.
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Wow good topic I was just about to ask this because Ive been thinking about this for days now. Seeing the Galaxy 3 makes me crave that OS its really nice. I cant believe this phone flopped in the market its heaps good I love it, this with the droid look really solid with a slide out qwerty. So iffffff TMobile is holding out on the update is it possible that they will release it? or times gone by no chance of this? Im like the TC, Ive never modded a phone and dont know how to do it, but iffffffff I have to put ICS mod what is the best and closest to the real thing and is solid and does not have many bugs etc.? Like if this was your phone you are selling to the world which mod would you add to it? If TMob dont release one I might try attempting my first mod and if anyone can help me out with helpful links or pics as a walkthrough so I dont brick it much appreciated
As someone who spent a good deal of time with sense 4 I can say the only thing I miss from the mysense is the integrated visual voicemail. The positive changes out weighed the loss of the integrated vvm.
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Archangel, if you do decide you want to root your device this is a fairly new but extremely comprehensive, simple & straightforward guide that will give you every bit of info you need to do that. Should you run into a problem, just come back with some specific questions about that parts you don't understand and "we'll git 'er done".
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1801106
If I were to recommend an ICS ROM for you to cut your teeth on it would be TBalden's Virtuous Inquisition. http://www.virtuousrom.com/p/inquisition.html This one will let you see what you've been missing on your DS. Good Luck and have a BALL! :good:
If you're looking for a pared down, screaming fast & smooth version of your stock ROM.....MikTouch & BulletProof are VERY tough to beat. (both in the developers section) Just remember that any questions not directly related to a ROM function or issue should always go here in General.
What is the difference between the roms? Like compared to the Galaxy 3 does it have the slick icons that slide and glide easy from screen to screen? and I think its called the live wallpaper when you swipe left or right the image hovers? also kinda like that fish wallpaper they have that has the trickle effect is neat, I noticed the apps menus are different to the Mytouch and smoother. I dont know what you mean by fast, do some of the roms make the OS lag and jaggy?
Personally, I think of fast as responsive.....smooth as changing functions & desktops, etc. But to each their own in descriptive terms, I guess. As far as differences go, I'm not familiar with the Galaxy but each ROM really has a personality of it's own except maybe in comparing ports from other devices.
THAT'S why you will probably become like the rest of us......Flashaholics! LOL
Oh Yeah....then you have THEMES! :laugh: