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[Q] Shortcut Drawer on the Nexus S

Hi there, I'm not even sure if this is the right place to ask it but I'll shoot anyway.
I own the Samsung Galaxy S, and the one thing I liked and found really handy about the roms for this phone is that on the pull down drawer they have shortcuts to Wifi, GPS etc etc you know the drill...
Now, I was thinking of getting the Nexus S for my girlfriend, except that I wanted to pre-load it with a custom rom for maximum speed less she come complaining to me that her Nexus S is slow, and as I found with the stock rom, such functionality like that in the SGS can't be found on the Nexus S stock.
I'm here to ask if there are any good roms that have them or modifications that allow for that, because I took a look at the "famed" Axura's rom and it doesn't have it :x
Bear in mind that the rom has to be stable as well so I don't think Nightly builds would be good for her to use in the long run since she knows nothing of rooting etc etc

CM7 has Power Widgets.

My impression of CM7 seems to be a bit bloated as compared to other roms though, and not to mention a video shows the drawer as a "pull-up" drawer instead of a "pull-down"
In terms of speed is there a faster better one with the same pull down drawer? which is also stable. I know its asking much. :X

Here's a great option:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1122127
It's a lightweight, fast, stock 2.3.4 AOSP-based ROM with some of the CM tweaks added (status bar power widget, improved widget picker, optional battery percentage, etc.).
It is my personal favourite. I've been running it for over a month with no complaints.

Interesting interesting interesting thank you for that suggestion. Will definitely consider it. Thanks

hamsteyr said:
My impression of CM7 seems to be a bit bloated as compared to other roms though, and not to mention a video shows the drawer as a "pull-up" drawer instead of a "pull-down"
In terms of speed is there a faster better one with the same pull down drawer? which is also stable. I know its asking much. :X
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Yeah agreed. The CM today isn't the same CM I knew back during the G1 days. It is way too mainstream.
But I consistently use it because of the features that are added. Battery on CM7 has not been as good. It's doable but it could be better and there isn't really a "dedicated developer" for the crespo for CM7.
Oxygen is a good alternative. Only thing I dislike about Oxygen is the contacts. The call button is missing on the right.

+1 for oxygen. CM and Nexus S do not play well together from my experience.

[Q] What features are desired from CM6/7

As I was working on trying to port CM6/CM7, I realized that it is much more time effective for me to port the tweaks involved with CM6/7, rather than trying to actually port the whole thing. So with that in mind, what tweaks/aspects of CM6/7 do people like/would like to see on our phone?
Bear in mind that because CM7 is GingerBread, so although I will try my best, I can't promise that features from CM7 are portable. CM6 features should be portable, but I *promise* nothing, and will try my best otherwise.
Currently working on
An extra menu in settings to control all this crap
REQUESTS
:LED Settings that are actually helpful/useful (pending)
:Camera on Low Bat (pending)
:Customizable Power Notification (pending)
Requests that probably aren't going to happen
CM7 (until a GB source release from Samsung for our phone or a very generous donation that gives me a reason to spend a month porting a kernel)
CM7 Theme Support (built on the GB API, all themes are Gingerbread minimum API anyways).
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i think the lockscreen gestures would be awesome
theme support would be cool ( dont know if thats possible)
led settings would be nice

I mentioned this to you before, but I thought i'd post here and see if anyone else responds: how about an optional flashable tweak, if possible, for those who want to be able to use their camera on low battery and don't want their screen dimmed and keyboard blacked out. (I know you can brighten the screen on low batt., but you have to do it every time after waking the phone from sleep). I believe on CM7 the phone simply functions normally until the battery dies.

I'll definitely look at the battery tweaks as that should be fairly easy to find, as for the theme manager, the issue is that its built from the GB API, as are all the themes. So even if the theme manager were ported, none of the themes would install as they would require a higher OS version

Customizable notification power control bar. What we have is decent enough. But I always liked that about CM series, being able to customize.
Touchwiz power control is good enough so no need to put this as a high-demand feature.

Are you still working on porting CM? I'd rather wait for CM than just flash tweaks every now and then.

I agree instead of porting u should at least try port cm6 which is froyo that would be awesome till we get a gingerbread kernel leak which krylon is looking into
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Porting CM6 will take me at least another month. That's what I was working on the past 2 weeks, but its all the same problem. CM6 and CM7 both require a ported kernel (2.6.35), which is very tedious and frustrating given the parts that were added to our phone.

Yea I saw that when I was looking into it I'm trying to get in contact with a samsung team on xda see if the help us out to get this ported
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What I'm saying with this thread is, we can essentially build CM6 on our phones, without the official title and all the extra work in porting a kernel, if we just build the parts in that make CM6 different from stock.
So that's my goal, to add enough parts to this that it will be similar to CM6 in functionality.

That's a great idea I just don't know what we can use lol
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The way I see it, although I love CM and would love to see it on this phone just as much as the next guy, I don't see a whole ton of stuff that's in CM that's not in our stuff already. So if I can focus on the things that people actually use from CM, I can build things that people want in CM, rather than trying to build CM.

sduvick said:
The way I see it, although I love CM and would love to see it on this phone just as much as the next guy, I don't see a whole ton of stuff that's in CM that's not in our stuff already. So if I can focus on the things that people actually use from CM, I can build things that people want in CM, rather than trying to build CM.
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Makes sense, considering you're the only one working on it, that I've heard. If it takes time to port a whole thing over, why not cut time down and just port that parts you love about CM.
Honestly, with the work you and ayoteddy have been doing for our phones, Cyanogen isn't a big deal to me. I mean, this may be off-topic, but the only things I do want are to completely eliminate that keyboard lag and to keep the keyboard backlight lit whenever open. Other than that, you guys have tweaked and optimized the phone so much already.

I haven't seen any keyboard lag, where do you see this? I'll look at the keyboard backlight thing shortly, currently working on an extra menu in settings to control all the tweaks I'm adding.
I'll also add a requests list to the OP shortly. EDIT: added.

When typing quickly some inputs may skip. I read the Samsung Epic had the same problem. That phone had a fix for the keyboard lag.

badboi_zero said:
When typing quickly some inputs may skip. I read the Samsung Epic had the same problem. That phone had a fix for the keyboard lag.
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Ahhh! So it happens to others too. i thought i just was messing up..i was like..i never messed up before. yess, this happens to me too and it sucks. makes uo type ike tis. (missing letters, but not that frequent)

Yeah. Just like that. It's worse when you're typing on an app that uses more resources, like typing on a web browser on an html page. Or when the facebook app is refreshing the feed while you type a status.

I contacted the developer who made the keyboard patch for the Epic(he really fixed the problem up good on that device!). he made a similar patch for us, for the Sidekick, I've just been too half-assed about learning how to apply the patch to our kernel, lol.
you guys can read what he wrote and find the patch he made us here, at the end of the thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=975611
apparently, our phone shouldn't suffer nearly as bad as the Epic, but he still made us a patch to make our keypad timer delay configurable by the user!
Edit: for some reason, the letter that skips the most on my phone is the "y", haha.

I don't know much about CM, but I'd really love the option to use landscape software keyboards. I am astonished that DSamsung actually chose to BLOCK THE FEATURE, een if we PAY to download a non stock keyboard.

The keyboard fix for the epic won't work for the Sidekick, because the change that was made to fix the epic issue was already there from Samsung

[Random] Nightlies are like crack.

I will be the first to admit that the idea of flashing roms was ridiculous and not my thing, but I have to love it. I don't necessarily need to experiment with different kinds, but I like having options. And of course it is very clear that the G2X is a bust for tmo, so I don't expect too much from them.
Thaynjs to all the devs that work hard to keep us happy.
Im done. No more posts from me...

LOL I'm a crack flasha too. I didn't think this phone was THAT big a failure for T-Mobile though.
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I have not tried any other Roms on this phone. But I know what you mean. When I had my G1, I was always looking foward to The nightlys of My Roms.
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thats the one thing i miss about htc phones is the fact that i can switch between sense roms then try aosp for a while

I never wanted to try a sense rom. The Widgets are pretty but it reminds me of my Windows Mobile days... even then I built roms without sense.
Once you try MIUI, sense is a laugh.
I think I've converted over to MIUI full time. Updates aren't as frequent to cut back on my daily urge and all the little tweaks really make the phone a joy to use. CM7 is great too but MIUI is like a polished CM7.
Nightlies are fun for a while but with the G2x, there is rampant APN and GPS issues that rear up occasionally that have bitten me several times. Nothing like being in a strange city with barely any service and your GPS is boinked.
I'll probably flip back and forth once they settle down with the GB source but reading the nightly thread it seems there are some big problems in the past few releases that I'm in no hurry to rush into.
I think I'm enjoying MIUI too much.
LG G2x - 2.3.5 MIUI Love
Asus TF - Custom 3.2

player911 said:
I never wanted to try a sense rom. The Widgets are pretty but it reminds me of my Windows Mobile days... even then I built roms without sense.
Once you try MIUI, sense is a laugh.
I think I've converted over to MIUI full time. Updates aren't as frequent to cut back on my daily urge and all the little tweaks really make the phone a joy to use. CM7 is great too but MIUI is like a polished CM7.
Nightlies are fun for a while but with the G2x, there is rampant APN and GPS issues that rear up occasionally that have bitten me several times. Nothing like being in a strange city with barely any service and your GPS is boinked.
I'll probably flip back and forth once they settle down with the GB source but reading the nightly thread it seems there are some big problems in the past few releases that I'm in no hurry to rush into.
I think I'm enjoying MIUI too much.
LG G2x - 2.3.5 MIUI Love
Asus TF - Custom 3.2
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IMO you have to like the iPhone UI to like miui. Its like the android iPhone knockoff.
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I know what you mean, but doesn't it get annoying to restore all the apps and set up ALL THE SETTINGS again, in every single app? I love android for its customization but settings are a pain in my asholes there are too many of them I get lost lol anyone know what I mean?
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noobletsausecakebbq said:
I know what you mean, but doesn't it get annoying to restore all the apps and set up ALL THE SETTINGS again, in every single app? I love android for its customization but settings are a pain in my asholes there are too many of them I get lost lol anyone know what I mean?
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Use titanium backup and when you restore, restore app AND data. Boom! You are good to go.
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Look like 124 is out. I wonder if the 4G/H icon issues is phone dependent or nightly build.

stockrom said:
Look like 124 is out. I wonder if the 4G/H icon issues is phone dependent or nightly build.
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Nothing new for the g2x in the new build

I've been rocking the nightly's since 55 and haven't had any trouble with any of them. GPS and both cameras have worked for me the whole time. Got 124 earlier today.
I third the MIUI is an iPhone rom...if you like it you'll probably love an iPhone...haha
CM7 has it on lock. I have bluez IME and can connect a wiimote to my phone and map all the wiimote keys to do any ascii I want. From there I can play pretty much any emulator with the wiimote and hdmi out to a projector or tv.
I have netflix it runs fast as hell and the battery lasts 3-4 days if I'm only using it for phone calls. Lasts about 6 hours if I'm gaming or watching movies.
Only complaint is they didn't steal the HDMI settings from the stock rom yet, so it will only auto out hdmi to 1080p tv's. So if you only have a 720p tv, probably not for you, but the perks might still make it worth it.

Oh yah, and if your worried about your settings. Don't wipe anything when you update your nightly. Download however you do, if you use rom manager, just say no when it asks to install, then shut down, load your recovery, flash the new nightly right over your old one. All setting remain the same. (Keep a good nandroid backup at all times and every once in a while restore your backup and flash new nightly over that for good measure)

Just install a custom launcher. I can't stand the iPhone style either so I run adw launcher.
Miui is the most customizable room out there by FAR.
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What's the difference between all these ICS ROMs/ports?

I know. I can read. I have read OPs and most posts. I want to know what makes each ROM/port different. Each of them have almost same features and looks. I'm asking comparing CM9 vs Stock vs AOKP vs Slim vs Beam vs etc and cMIUI vs MIUI. I'm not complaining, just want people to share what make them choose one ROM over the other because all are smooth and fast and awesome and so on the same generic descriptions... Let's be honest, most of the has mainly same features, like to mod battery icon, clock, toggles, drawer, theme, lockscreen, some apps here and not there, different bootanimation, etc... you know what I mean. So what is it then? Please, elaborate some answers.
To me, there is a noticeable difference between all mentioned and RemICS and so with AOKPCB but mostly because of the theme/looks and some apps and few features.
I would like to read something else than just "X ROM is fast and smoother" and yes I know everyone is different so they get different experience with their ROM of choice, but what makes you choose a ROM over the other. That's the thing
No trolling allowed and it's not my intention to offend anyone. I appreciate all projects and stuff here, I'm not complaining. Just curious.

U can go to other forum like i9000 and nexus S and ask this question there, too ...they r just for your own choice lol, just flash one u like
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chris31jct said:
I know. I can read. I have read OPs and most posts. I want to know what makes each ROM/port different. Each of them have almost same features and looks. I'm asking comparing CM9 vs Stock vs AOKP vs Slim vs Beam vs etc and cMIUI vs MIUI. I'm not complaining, just want people to share what make them choose one ROM over the other because all are smooth and fast and awesome and so on the same generic descriptions... Let's be honest, most of the has mainly same features, like to mod battery icon, clock, toggles, drawer, theme, lockscreen, some apps here and not there, different bootanimation, etc... you know what I mean. So what is it then? Please, elaborate some answers.
To me, there is a noticeable difference between all mentioned and RemICS and so with AOKPCB but mostly because of the theme/looks and some apps and few features.
I would like to read something else than just "X ROM is fast and smoother" and yes I know everyone is different so they get different experience with their ROM of choice, but what makes you choose a ROM over the other. That's the thing
No trolling allowed and it's not my intention to offend anyone. I appreciate all projects and stuff here, I'm not complaining. Just curious.
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They basically all come from the same base as far as Android OS goes, and as far as comparing no one can tell you what to choose. I know you are not asking for someone to choose for you, but that kinda is where the question leads. Compare them for yourself. See what you like. They all have their own flavor, mods, tweaks. Some are closer to stock, others are heavily modded. That's your answer in a nutshell. No one is gonna sit down and draw you up a chart of features for each rom.

@dao
I can ask there but that's not my phone and that doesn't answer my question. It's obvious they are there for choice, how to choose then? Why? That's what I would like to read. BTW, thanks for updating RemICS.
@greg
I have used them all. That's why I'm asking.

chris31jct said:
@dao
I can ask there but that's not my phone and that doesn't answer my question. It's obvious they are there for choice, how to choose then? Why? That's what I would like to read. BTW, thanks for updating RemICS.
@greg
I have used them all. That's why I'm asking.
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You just have to choose what you like and what works for you. It's that simple. Until Aries is released and we have an updated kernel, they are all about the same, but Aries will fix some issues. Like those blasted capacitive back lights timing out.
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What made you choose miui for your phone? Did you try different ROMs before?

@HKSpeed
Oh, I haven't updated that... I'm on CM9 at the moment. My ROMs of choice are Team Acid's. I have been using their work since Froyo so I'm biased. I was on AOKP but battery was a big issue for me, it drained very fast, so I went on CM9 to see how it works since most other ROMs are based on it. Thought it should be more simple, less tweaked. I have tried all, except Linaro and Provision. I like them all but somehow I can't notice difference between them except but a few little things here and there.
I was on MIUI because Dao kept updating it and fast. It was more advanced than other ports/ROMs, then I went on AOKPBC just to see and the theme was too heavy, awesome but not what I was looking for.
I'm not saying I will stay on CM forever, might go on a flashing rampage sometime soon. I know these are WIP that depend on kernel so until then I shall keep experimenting.

I know the others have said pretty much the same thing I am saying, but it comes down to a matter of choice. The ICS roms are all CM9 base if I am not mistaken, so you are dealing with mostly the same issues and bugs on each, so it really comes down to a point of which theme you want and which apps/bloat you want. It becomes a real pain to have to debloat/rebloat a rom and I only ever do so if the theme and layout is custom and really nice but fun to use. If it's basically a stock rom and doesn't have typical apps/bloat/mods/tweaks that I am used to using, I hit the thanks button for the hard work that helps future devs have an easier time and keep looking for a rom that has everything I want. Right now, I am going to be selling my phone soon so I can get a SGS III at least, or maybe wait to see if the rumors are true and T-Mob gets the One X+. I'm drooling over that OC'd Tegra 3 ::fingers-crossed: But, that doesn't mean I won't be trying out different roms at the moment. I love the ICS roms but hate that I can't use calling over wifi. I know there are other options, but they are a bit of trouble with linking google voice among other things, so ICS isn't really for me yet even though it is beautiful. There's my choice...what's yours?

Ive tried to not post but it bothers me when people cant understand a simple question.
Chris31jct is NOT asking for you to convince him. He is asking why did YOU choose a specific rom.
He is also asking for a reason other than the generic responses given 90% of the time.
I started out on aokp then when slimics was released I used it for a while. I wanted to try aokp to see why it was so popular. I like aokp the customization options its a nice rom. I wanted to try slimics just because it doesnt have all the extra apk that aokp and cm9 have that I never use.
Most of the time I will test a rom just to see what the hype is.

3 things decide your choice of a ROM:
Stability
Customization
Battery consumption
In terms of Stability, Usually the higher the customization and options of a ROM, the more conflicts it has( not a rule).
Battery should be the same on all since they use same code and kernel.
Graphic Customization: AOKP is the Best
Settings and options: CM9 is the best
Stability + Battery: I personally prefer SlimRom or Stock cuz it has the most required customization and its very slim( about 80 mb) so probably lighter on your phone.

I wasn't trying to convince him. I know he'll choose whatever rom he wants and that's not for me to decide and/or judge. I was merely stating why most of us choose the roms we choose which is what I interpreted the question to be. The reasons I gave are the reasons I choose the roms I choose. I don't mean to speak for everyone, but that would be the most basic reason to choose a rom other than just to try out what is out there but we ultimately stick with certain roms due to what's included in the rom as well as the stability of it, although as stated before by more than just me, the ICS roms have the same bugs and therefor the same stability issues. Again, not trying to step on anyone's toes, I don't claim to speak for everyone, but I answered the question as I interpreted it.
Also, as to specific roms, I'd be here all day if I chose to speak on that because I started using custom roms on my old G1 and I've tried out probably over 100 roms for various phones over the last few years. For that matter, I could go way back to the days of the Motorola Razor and a few other phones out around the same time, but I was speaking more about android roms. As far as the roms is concerned I don't care if it's miui, ICS, AOKP, etc. If it has the features I'm looking for and is stable, then I use it until something comes around I like better.

I went with AOKP because
It had full source code and I could modify it as I wanted
I liked the layout of toggles
AOKP ROM Control had features I wanted
I could long-press Back to kill a process
It has "quiet hours"
It has decent control of background data use
I knew where the kernel came from and it has full source code
I knew where all binaries came from and it has full source code
I know the last two of these are an absolute requirement under GPL, but many ROM "authors" fail to provide this information.
AOKP has some "crap" that I freeze to improve performance, but I haven't run out of on-phone storage yet.
CyanogenMod 9, for me, wasn't quite as "usable" as AOKP, the way I use my phone.
MIUI is too "Technicolor" and gimmicky for me. Most of what it has (other than a decent File Explorer, when it doesn't crash) I consider "bloat."
SLIM seemed like a good candidate, but without easy access to full source and the ability to build as I desired, it wasn't on my short list. I tried Lightning or whatever its "default" launcher is, but it had a couple things that just didn't allow me to set up my phone the way I wanted (paging is "wonky" to the way I have come to think of a launcher).
Kernel -- Well, Hefe Kernel pretty clearly added what I wanted; better battery life without significant impact in responsiveness. I'm glad others find what works for me helping them out too.
The Zip-n-Go ROMs don't, in general, excite me. I'm not a big theme guy and I can add/remove what I want pretty easily myself.

@krazymonkeys
I understand your point. I also try everything and then stick to one ROM.
@eollie
Thanks bro.
@jeff
That's the best example of kind of answer I was looking for. Thanks!

I'm on Erik's MIUI 2.8.10.
I tried it because I like the UI: I like the notification bar and full screen toggles, I like the kill app back button feature, the task manager combined task killer home button and all the sys apps. It is super fast, lighweight and easy to use. It is stable and gives instant GPS lock.
Only problem is the battery consumption, but it's kernel related I believe.
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@itzik2sh
I tried MIUI but it is too bright. Don't get me wrong. I like it a lot. But since we don't have Automatic Brightness, then it was a pain. Anyway, it's a great ROM and I think battery didn't drain more than it does on other ROMs. What I love most about MIUI is the phone and text's apps.

TouchWiz VS. AOSP?

I've been using the GS3 since it came out and have had this weird back and forth opinion of TouchWiz and AOSP. I was just wanting to get the opinion of the rest of the community to see if anyone feels the same way I do. Opinion Below:
For some strange reason, I feel better using the Galaxy S III with the TouchWiz UX interface. I used it for a number of months with CM10, but when I was using that interface, I didn't feel like I was using a my Samsung Phone. Even though I had a Galaxy Nexus and loved my time with it (before i dropped it in the river...), the same interface on this particular phone just didn't feel "right". Like I was emulating a completely different version of android. But the moment I loaded CleanRom 5.5.1, all the feeling of the GS3 came back. I can't really explain it, but it just feels good. the software goes to well with the screen size, the way I hold the phone, and (sorry, but) I now love S Voice more than Google's Voice Commands. i can set timers, text people, set events for work and S Voice locks onto my voice so much quicker than when it's older versions.
Again, this is just my opinion, but I would love to hear your reasons for picking one over the other, what killer thing you can't live without, or even why you don't care. I'm down for any conversation.

me too. i tried all the aosp roms and miui. and always find myself going back to stock touchwiz. which is funny. i remember before i bought the phone all i heard was "the only bad thing is it has touchwiz UI" and " touchwiz sucks" and i absolutely love it.

i prefer AOSP

TW but using Nova Launcher and Google Now instead of S Voice.

DaemonAshra said:
I've been using the GS3 since it came out and have had this weird back and forth opinion of TouchWiz and AOSP. I was just wanting to get the opinion of the rest of the community to see if anyone feels the same way I do. Opinion Below:
For some strange reason, I feel better using the Galaxy S III with the TouchWiz UX interface. I used it for a number of months with CM10, but when I was using that interface, I didn't feel like I was using a my Samsung Phone. Even though I had a Galaxy Nexus and loved my time with it (before i dropped it in the river...), the same interface on this particular phone just didn't feel "right". Like I was emulating a completely different version of android. But the moment I loaded CleanRom 5.5.1, all the feeling of the GS3 came back. I can't really explain it, but it just feels good. the software goes to well with the screen size, the way I hold the phone, and (sorry, but) I now love S Voice more than Google's Voice Commands. i can set timers, text people, set events for work and S Voice locks onto my voice so much quicker than when it's older versions.
Again, this is just my opinion, but I would love to hear your reasons for picking one over the other, what killer thing you can't live without, or even why you don't care. I'm down for any conversation.
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Basically CM/AOSP/AOKP is the Nexus with better hardware. If you want the same thing but faster that is where you go. If want all the bells and whistles you go TW. It is what you looking for. I stick with TW where all works and run all the 4.1.1/4.1.2/4.2/4.2.1 apps that we can port. I want everything on my $600 device to work . That includes every option that came on the phone. To me breaking the phone to go fast is not an option. Newer options are worthless if all you can do is call if you are lucky. I could call with a brick in the 70's. :laugh:

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Basically CM/AOSP/AOKP is the Nexus with better hardware. If you want the same thing but faster that is where you go. If want all the bells and whistles you go TW. It is what you looking for. I stick with TW where all works and run all the 4.1.1/4.1.2/4.2/4.2.1 apps that we can port. I want everything on my $600 device to work . That includes every option that came on the phone. To me breaking the phone to go fast is not an option. Newer options are worthless if all you can do is call if you are lucky. I could call with a brick in the 70's. :laugh:
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I didn't really think of it in those terms, but that's pretty much dead on. with CM10, i did a lot more CPU management, tweaking, and seeing what little things i could change to make the phone break the laws of physics (didn't do it). And with TouchWiz. I kinda just sit back and use my phone as a phone. call, text, watch youtube. I still like to keep my titanium backups synced to dropbox, but not much more.
Random, but every time I load a new ROM that I've never used before, the first thing I do is call one of my parents. Always need to make sure I can send a phone call.

I don't mind touchwiz all that much. Couldn't stand sense or moto blur but tw the isn't all that bad. Throw on apex the launcher and I'm good to go.
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DaemonAshra said:
I didn't really think of it in those terms, but that's pretty much dead on. with CM10, i did a lot more CPU management, tweaking, and seeing what little things i could change to make the phone break the laws of physics (didn't do it). And with TouchWiz. I kinda just sit back and use my phone as a phone. call, text, watch youtube. I still like to keep my titanium backups synced to dropbox, but not much more.
Random, but every time I load a new ROM that I've never used before, the first thing I do is call one of my parents. Always need to make sure I can send a phone call.
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Man I'm probably old enough to be your daddy. :laugh: I been playing and testing for some of the best in the business for a while. If it broke it is not cutting edge. Making broke go faster makes no sense to me. You should be able to make what works go faster and still work. Being on the cutting edge of broke is for the devs not for the masses. Once stable go for it. But if your wife, girlfriend or parents can't get hold of you cause your on cutting edge of broke you have a problem.

prdog1 said:
Man I'm probably old enough to be your daddy. :laugh: I been playing and testing for some of the best in the business for a while. If it broke it is not cutting edge. Making broke go faster makes no sense to me. You should be able to make what works go faster and still work. Being on the cutting edge of broke is for the devs not for the masses. Once stable go for it. But if your wife, girlfriend or parents can't get hold of you cause your on cutting edge of broke you have a problem.
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I agree completely about you being old.
Between the Data not working on CM10.1 for the first week or so, and little errors that come with devs trying to port other phones' features into their ROM's, I was prompted to go back to CleanROM and just take a breath from all the flashing and rebooting. I'll be looking for that 4.1.2 update. but I'll stay away from the real crazy stuff.

DaemonAshra said:
I agree completely about you being old.
Between the Data not working on CM10.1 for the first week or so, and little errors that come with devs trying to port other phones' features into their ROM's, I was prompted to go back to CleanROM and just take a breath from all the flashing and rebooting. I'll be looking for that 4.1.2 update. but I'll stay away from the real crazy stuff.
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I'm currently on Beans stock deodex with Ziggy's latest kernel @1.72/384. Kinda craps mods and Moto's International VRTheme. All Gapps 4.1-4.2 inverted. Rock stable and running 6500 Quads. Everything works including call recording.

I've been flashing for awhile.
At this point (actually - Nov 1st) I've been CleanROM only. Everything "works" + mixed with WasabiWa's themes - I'm a happy man.
This is the tamest my crack flashing has ever been. It's almost scary. TW JB is pretty nice...
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1ManWolfePack said:
I've been flashing for awhile.
At this point (actually - Nov 1st) I've been CleanROM only. Everything "works" + mixed with WasabiWa's themes - I'm a happy man.
This is the tamest my crack flashing has ever been. It's almost scary. TW JB is pretty nice...
Sent from my SCH-I535 using Tapatalk 2
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Wolfe don't be sucking these kids in for the kill. I'm stock tweaked, deodexed, kerneled and themed. Rockin it . :laugh:

I can't imagine AOSP being much faster than TW with the necessary apps frozen. On my old phones AOSP was definitely the way to go, but the S3 is so powerful anyways, and TW isn't very heavy anymore.
And, in all honesty, the TW Camera app alone is worth it for me to stay on TW. All the non-TW camera apps pale in comparison, both in quality and options.

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I agree completely about you being old.
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Haha.. made me laugh
I honestly can't stand TW. I have it on my wife's phone because she likes the camera better than the AOSP. But it just seems like TW just tried to be too pretty and to me it didn't make me happy. Even though AOSP has its little bugs, I just like it better. There are no widgets that I'm OMG about really like I was with Sense, for instance their music player, calendar, clock, and Facebook for HTC sense app... of course I prefer sense 3.5 style widgets a little more than 4. So I just stick with MIUI because that was the AOSP that made me fall in love with AOSP. Used to have the Dinc and Dinc2 and it ran flawlessly on both. Just pure love.
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For some strange reason, I feel better using the Galaxy S III with the TouchWiz UX interface. I used it for a number of months with CM10, but when I was using that interface, I didn't feel like I was using a my Samsung Phone. Even though I had a Galaxy Nexus and loved my time with it (before i dropped it in the river...), the same interface on this particular phone just didn't feel "right". Like I was emulating a completely different version of android.
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This.
I loaded up AOKP and tried that out for awhile. It was lightning fast on pretty much everything, but I just didn't feel like I was using my GS3 that I had fallen in love with. I'm on the stock JB OTA with Kindacrap Mods 2.6 flashed. The small tweaks in there make the phone for me. Everything's a little bit faster and once I found out that I could make the home button faster (my biggest complaint since owning the phone) simply by disabling the S-Voice polling, just more love to be had.
Being able to set separate lock screen and homescreen wallpapers that don't move (used to love the movement, but not so much anymore) is great. S-Beam is awesome. The premium suite will (hopefully) be a wonderful tweak. Samsung and TouchWiz have come a long way since my first Android phone: the Captivate on AT&T.

To me it is not about speed at this point but stability. Top end devices today do not need to go any faster then when you take it out of the box. I still scratch my head when I see people over clocking their S3. This thing already runs faster then some laptops that people own. Also, can't prove anything is faster when overclocking except running a benchmark. Otherwise they all feel the same!
I love the AOSP experience and options but it still has bugs that are important to me on the S3 so I am forced to use TW. Luckily TW is not that bad on the S3 and works well. If an AOSP Rom was bug free I surely would be running it. And don't believe the hype when people tell you AOSP has no bugs. It can run stable but has bugs that prevent me from using it as a daily.
Running Pure's TW Rom right now it works great. Already has part of multi-window cooked in with the bar on the left and all your apps showing. Hopefully next release will actually have the multi window. He also said that he has the ink effect on the lockscreen for the next rls as well. He is always pushing the bar with new features so I am pretty content right now with TW.

CM10.1 kangs have been nothing but stable for me since I got my S3 a few weeks ago. I like the whole interface and experience; hated TW. Call me lucky but I'm 100% satisfied.

I've gone back and forth between AOSP and TW-based ROMS. Besides stability, I do enjoy the extra features that are on the stock framework.
I'm just curious to see how developers will utilize the source code into their ROMS, now that it's out.

I like AOSP if it works. I would easily be on cm10.1 if everything worked, but until then, I think I have to use my phone as a phone

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I like AOSP if it works. I would easily be on cm10.1 if everything worked, but until then, I think I have to use my phone as a phone
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Same here. I ran AOSP on my OG Epic and while I liked it for what our offered, constant struggles with features broken/ not working made me steer clear of it on GS3 until ALL phone functions work as well as they do on TW.