Any recommendations for EQ settings in Samsung Music Player? - Verizon Droid Charge

I don't mind "Rock" but if somebody has a better custom EQ, I'd love to try it out.
Or a recommendation for a better media player with a good EQ.

Honestly... this is a question that is going to be debatable. What sounds great to one person could sound like **** to another. Choose a setting that sounds good to you.

Actually this is a question completely dependent on what you have plugged into it.
If you can find your headphones at the HeadRoom website, you might be able to find the frequency response curve of your headphones to find out which frequencies are lacking or are boosted too much. Then you compensate with the EQ.
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What phones are you using. If cheap 'buds' than that is 1/2 your problem. Also the EQ circuit sucks on these phones, but overall the Sound Quality (SQ) is pretty good.
First if you are not using Voodoo sound, start using it. Just trust me on that. Currently on the Charge you have to use Voodoo control plus (The paid version) to use Voodoo sound. Voodoo sound uses the Hifi digital circuit in your phone instead of the analog circuit. With this installed the tone control I use is the Bass boost circuit which I adjust for the phones I'm using and I don't use EQ at all. Unlike the stock EQ circuit on this phone the bass boost circuit in voodoo sound does not suck the life out of the sound.
If you are using cheap ear buds finds some different phones. I have yet to find 'buds' that I like the sound of but I have not tried many of them either.
You do not need to spend a lot. Try the Koss KSC75 for $19. These sound really good and sound even better under a beanie. They do not have a lot of bass (more on that later) and the beanie pushing them closer to your ears gives them more bass and that is my favorite combination. For in in-ear phones I like the Skull Candy Titan. These are $39 and have a lot of bass, but not flabby bass. I also have a set of Sennheiser PMX70 which have the least amount of bass. All of these have a nice 'live' (as in not 'dead' sounding) sound. The only 'EQ' I use on these is to control the amount of Bass each gets which I do using Voodoo Sound bass boost. None of these are more than $40.
For really cheap phones but better than the stock crap 'buds' many people like the JVC Marshmallow (in-ear) and JVC Gummy (buds). Also the Skull Candy Inkd ($10) are good in you like more bass/rock sound. Some people HATE skull Candy phones in general but I'm not one of them.
A good source for anything related to headphones for portable players is anythingbutipod.com here is there headphone section: http://www.anythingbutipod.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=22
I have tried the EQ on this phone from multiple players and by using the DSP Manager that comes with CM7. None of them sound good to me.
EQ is a funny thing and not something you learrn to use well overnight (I was a live sound engineer in another lifetime, and have 21 band EQ on my home stereo).
If all you have is presets in your EQ all you can do is try them till you find the one you like the most (hate the least). If you have a custom setting here are some guidelines.
In general it's better to cut frequencies, instead of boosting the ones you want. Want more bass, cut some of the high frequencies. Try to keep your cuts and boosts to less 3db (6db max). More than that and you are trying for something that is not there. To get a good idea of what each band does, run it all they way up and down to see what it really is boosting and cutting.
Also as you EQ you are making the signal stronger and weaker depending on how much you cut or boost. This in itself changes the sound. In general as you turn up the volume (signal) you hear more bass and treble, and conversely as you turn down you hear less bass and treble. So play with that before dik'ing with EQ
Try to do your EQ'ing so that the loudness stays about the same, or at least use the pre-amp gain to adjust for it. The EQ in the Mixzing media player shows when you are clipping which is a cool feature. It also lets you change how many bands you have control over and if you want to use smoothing which adjusts nearby bands as you move one band.
I wrote all this because it's close to pointless to ask for other peoples' setting since it depends on the phones, the music, and the volume you like to listen to, and your own preference in how it 'should' sound.
Edit: Mixzing Basic Player has the best EQ in the players I've tried.

If you ask for a good player , I recommend Poweramp or Apollo

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SRS WOW out for Android/Evo????

Hey ya'll I'm getting ansy for tomorrow's release.. Quick question.. Has anyone found a comperable SRSWOW plugin to add some clarity and "thump" to the phones standard audio output? SRSWow on Winmo is a godsend and truly makes the phones audio double in clarity and crispness across all the bands...
Thanks!
Is there a problem with the Audio?
Mine sounds fine.
This question isn't about a problem, but moreso about the ability to "tune" the audio to enhance the sound. If you have had a winmo phone with SRSwow, you'll know what I mean.. Night and day difference in sound depth, crispness, bass clarity, and seperation from stock.
i've only come across a single media player that had even had an EQ for android. i'll see if i can find the thread...
edit: found it.
astro player
I've dealt a lot with SRS WOW on my winmo device and on a desktop PC... After through testing, came to a conclusion that most of the time it actually makes the music sounds worse. Trashed it and never gone back.
frifox said:
I've dealt a lot with SRS WOW on my winmo device and on a desktop PC... After through testing, came to a conclusion that most of the time it actually makes the music sounds worse. Trashed it and never gone back.
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Hmmm.. Not sure how qualified your ears are, but i can guarantee in a car with a smallish sub the SRSWoW made all the difference from stock WM players on Winmo. Inside there might be less subtle changes. The ability to widen the sound and get less mud from the bass is really where this plugin shines. Sounds like its not quite there for Android yet. Bummer!
norkoastal said:
Hmmm.. Not sure how qualified your ears are, but i can guarantee in a car with a smallish sub the SRSWoW made all the difference from stock WM players on Winmo. Inside there might be less subtle changes. The ability to widen the sound and get less mud from the bass is really where this plugin shines. Sounds like its not quite there for Android yet. Bummer!
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try astro player, like i posted
Thanks for the Astro link. I will give it a spin.
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I've dealt a lot with SRS WOW on my winmo device and on a desktop PC... After through testing, came to a conclusion that most of the time it actually
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Hmmm.. Not sure how qualified your ears are, but i can guarantee in a car with a smallish sub the SRSWoW made all the difference from stock WM players on Winmo. Inside there might be less subtle changes. The ability to widen the sound and get less mud from the bass is really where this plugin shines. Sounds like its not quite there for Android yet. Bummer!
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I produced music for past 3 years (trance), spent WEEKS battling youtube optimizing my uploads for best audio quality, play piano, and am in charge of my church's choir... I think that should be enough to qualify me as "not a n00b in audio/music area"
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I produced music for past 3 years (trance), spent WEEKS battling youtube optimizing my uploads for best audio quality, play piano, and am in charge of my church's choir... I think that should be enough to qualify me as "not a n00b in audio/music area"
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Touche...We are playing MP3's after all, lol After trying Astro Music I wasn't wowed that much.. Hopefully there are more plugins enroute to satisfy my SRSwow fixation ;/
just do what I did... save up and invest some $$ and get better quality sound system, let it be headphones, speakers, car sound, etc...
I spent $80 on headphones and another $100 on new 3-say speakers for my car. That made all the difference. AMAZING sound quality on both, no need for any SRSWOW patches
I can relate, I need it myself. I need to boost/tune my overall volume as well, & not just in mp3s.
You are a deaf mann frifoxxx !! You cant replace your phones speaker but you can increase quality with SRS.You can configure low frequency to 400hz or 300hz and sound is better better better than standart in ALL WM phones.I think SRS is really necesary for ALL devices that has small speakers like laptops,phones,tablet pcs.Im producing music for 7 years and i think SRS is necessary for all small speakered device.And many manufacturers are using srs engines in their lcd tvs,phones...etc and they have SRS logo on front.sorry for my english if your devices headphone amplifier is bad about bass (like HD2) you can use srs for headphone configuring 40 hz and far input output DB values.And you get the BASSS
DSP
DSPManager
Same thing as SRS
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DSPManager
Same thing as SRS
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it is not working on my hd2 android rom and it only have a standart eq.Srs is not is an eq srs is a dynamic real time processıng engine that scans sound and boost neccessary frequencies necessary parts of sound.
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I want srs for my sgs2
I have it on my pc and on my i900 its sounds really amazing after adjustements
There is an app called equalizer made by the same guys that make audio manager and it worked great on my evo
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I personally like Volume Boost. It literally tweaks the eq to raise volume, has custom and preset eq, and other great tweaks. The "in call" is still in testing, but the speaker, and headphone, and headset quality is pretty amazing for a market app
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KIRA-isJUSTICE said:
I personally like Volume Boost. It literally tweaks the eq to raise volume, has custom and preset eq, and other great tweaks. The "in call" is still in testing, but the speaker, and headphone, and headset quality is pretty amazing for a market app
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I like crisp clean sound. Bass is nice but I hate it when the bass is so distorted that it drones out the crisp highs and mids. What's the point of audio I'd you've got the bass turned so far up you can't hear the vocals.
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SRSWOW
I am looking for a working version of SRSWOW for my android tablet, It's the Samsung 10.1 and I agree that using SRSWOW no comparison it is the best for not rooting my tablet. All I want is about a 30% increase in sound I have tried several other so called boost the volume apps and nothing has so far worked. So if anyone could steer me in the right direction I would be very happy, thanks in advance..

[Q] [I9003]How to Improve Audio Quality ?

As everyone knows, the audio quality of I9003 is not up to the mark, and this has been discussed various times.
Its real bad when compared to that of I9000 or of any iphone (personally tried).
If anyone knows about any custom rom, with improved sound or any other rom, or any method to improve the sound quality, please discuss.
As crazy as it sounds I'm actually quite satisfied with the audio quality of our phone (despite my constant whining a few months ago). Although I do agree that the audio quality of most idevices is better.
Anyway I'm currently using cranium rom and miui player on XXKPH. I honestly cant tell if this has any impact on audio quality but recently I've been a happy camper
Others will suggest the use of the equalizer app from the market. Its honestly the best EQ available and you wont be using those EQs that come with the music player anymore. It's free too
I suggest the Playerpro app as well since I've found it to have a louder volume overall and the UI is pretty neat.
And although this might sound redundant but I'm curious as to what headset your'e using. It always helps to have a reliable pair of quality head/earphones
I have the headphones that comes with the i9003, they are quite good. With DSP Manager it has a good quality sound, but Im having a problem with it, the phones speakers keep doing a static sound and drink the battery.
Ill try the equalizer app...
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As crazy as it sounds I'm actually quite satisfied with
And although this might sound redundant but I'm curious as to what headset your'e using. It always helps to have a reliable pair of quality head/earphones
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I use sennheiser hd202, the are real good in my opinion, but the sound was a big let down when i tested the quality on Iphone 3gs
Will try the fix :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=735918
juanmaper said:
I have the headphones that comes with the i9003, they are quite good. With DSP Manager it has a good quality sound, but Im having a problem with it, the phones speakers keep doing a static sound and drink the battery.
Ill try the equalizer app...
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Oh man I suggest you get the Koss Portapros. These are the best sounding and most comfortable headphones I've ever used (and I've used alot). Their sound quality is comparable to headsets which are 3x times more expensive. Plus it comes with a no questions asked LIFETIME warranty- just pay for shipping.
I've been using these for a year and it hasn't failed me. Here in the Philippines it gets pretty hot so comfort is a big issue for me when it comes to headsets. With these on I forget I'm even wearing them
Here is the link for more info: http://www.amazon.com/Koss-PortaPro...P4ZH/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1320488226&sr=8-1
For on ear headphones Ive the senheizer hd202. They are just great. But for listening to music while walking on street I use the in-ear samsung headphones.
The HD202's sound great on well driven devices but unfortunately thanks to its high resistance it just doesnt sound good on most portable devices.
If you want slightly inexpensive mic+ earphones combo like the stock earphones that came with the phone go for skullcandy riot!
They are better than the stock earphones and are not going to break the bank!
Also I want to know on sennheiser hd202 3.5 mm hack do you have 2 concentric black/gray rings or 3 rings?
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Lordrdx666 said:
Also I want to know on sennheiser hd202 3.5 mm hack do you have 2 concentric black/gray rings or 3 rings?
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There are 2 concentric rings.
Have you tried using those portable headphone amps from fiio? The E5 or the E6? I have the old E5 and it does improve the sound from my I9003. The earphones I have used that to my feeling had an improvement were the Denon reference C751 and the Sennheiser IE8 with silver cable. I have also used it on an AKG K420 and Sennheiser PX100 and I did feel some improvement on sound.
Guys what would you prefer
Equalizer app or the Music fx app.
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Some Tips for PowerAmp & switching Boom to HK audio (and a few other headphone tips)

Some Tips for PowerAmp & switching Boom to HK audio (and a few other headphone tips)
7/24/2014
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HK now works with ART
berndblb said:
FYI: scrosler, the dev for CleanROM, just re-worked the HK mod, made it ART compatible. In v2 he also used the latest Sprint source which greatly improved the bass on HK - IMO.
You can find his mod here: http://www.scottsroms.com/showthread.php?t=5210
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I cant post in the Dev forums yet (in the HK mod thread) but wanted to give some tips based on my experiments with testing HK and Boom on the M8 thee past couple days.
Now I dont claim to be an audio expert or anything and didnt get into mobile audio till voodoo sound on the Galaxy S so take my advice as you will.
Impressions of each before I give my tips.
Boom- Good Highs and Lows with leaving the mid lacking some, still ok but If not careful with EQ settings and such you can end up with really blown out bass.
HK - Gives good mids, the bass isnt as good and puts a little more treble in the loud speak than I'd like but nothing too bad (essentially the opposite problem boom has tbh) Highs and Lows can be kind of flat with HK.
Now for my tips if you want to test it and how I set PowerAmp
Before Switching and after Test with these settings
1. In poweramp you need to disable Direct Volume Control
2. Adjust Audio buffer size to +500ms and Thread Priority to +3 (some have reported issues with laggy audio and Poweramp sometimes and this should help)
3.(Optional) I enabled replay gain with the setting of ApplyGain/Prevent Clipping according to Peak with track as source
4.Set your EQ as you like but also test both a Flat EQ.
5. Test on Speakers and Headphones not just one of them.
Now after doing this I noticed that if I used my favored bass/treble EQ with Boom, the bass would get blown way out and essentially overpower everything else turning it to a muddy mess. So then I tried using the mids EQ to boost thee mids a bit with Boom but it just didnt sound right IMO. If I just went with the default Flat EQ I was fine, got good bass and treble but like was said the mids felt lacking. I would say if you continue using Boom I would go with a flat EQ as Boom has the Bass and Treble pretty well taken care of and does really well on the speakers.
Now I've switched to HK, and My first tip with HK is you probably shouldnt use LiveStage as It isnt that great. In testing it seems to be similar to the Environment option in many Audio Driver settings and really doesnt do much for the audio IMO. If you like it thats fine I just dont find it to add much and detracts more than anything. Clari-Fi is a mixed bag, if you have a library full of low to med quality MP3s I would say enable it because it does seem to help some with those. If you have mostly 320kbps MP3 or higher audio then it isnt going to do anything for you and you can disable it. Now with poweramp I used my standard Bass/Treble EQ and It sounds great :] no blown out bass and I also get the advantage of better mids which Boom didnt have. Bass is still a bit less than Boom but with my EQ it helps on the weakness that HK has on the Highs and Lows.
IMO, HK is better over all for me with my Poweramp setup on headphones, but for the built in speakers Boom is definitely better than HK. I leave it to you guys to judge and if there is anyone with more audio experience that has any tips, tricks, etc. feel free to leave it here and I'll add it to the OP. The best thing you can do is test each, dont let me or anyone tell you which is better because it will be subjective.
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EDIT: Decided to add some tips for those wanting to get the most out of their headphones. This mostly applies to the over the ear types as i dont normally use the in ear ones. These also dont apply to every pair, my O'Neills greatly benefited from the added holes in the housing (improved the slightly weak bass) some HPs wont and also depends on how open or closed you want them. Do research on the model you have before modding it.
Things you can do to improve your HP audio
1. Many over the ear phones dont give the driver room to breath, they have 1-2 or no holes at all and so not much air gets in. what i did is grab my Phillips O'Neills and a drill with a small bit and added another 10 holes to each housing. (pic below)
2. If there is any fabric covering the inside either (pic below)
a. if its not like my O'Neills with the nice cushions cut a quarter sized hole into the padding so you still have some to go on your ears
b. If it has cushion like mine remove it entirely
the fabric can have a sort of muting effect on the audio which we dont want
3. Open them up (carefully) and look at the back of the driver (speaker) and there should be a paper filter there with some holes (its covering them). Poke holes into the paper filter to let more air in. this increases bass)
4. While they are open if you have some felt to line the housing then do so as well as put a circle of it on the back of the magnet, this will dampen back wave.
Also I figured I would recommend some headphones if you guys are looking for some good HP under 100$
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Koss PortaPro (40-50$)
Creative Aurvana Live (50-100$)
Grados SR60i (50-100$)
Koss DJ100 (40-80$)
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Audio Technica CKM500 (30-70$)
SoundMAGIC E10 (20-40$)
HIFIMAN - RE-400 (100$)
VSonic VSD1 (40-60$)
I know I dont use any of those though, I have Phillips O'Neill Stretch HPs the are crazy comfortable but arent top in their range. Im working on modding mine but most of the listed ones dont NEED it but if you like to tinker the O'Neills are crazy comfy
Echoa said:
I cant post in the Dev forums yet (in the HK mod thread) but wanted to give some tips based on my experiments with testing HK and Boom on the M8 thee past couple days.
Now I dont claim to be an audio expert or anything and didnt get into mobile audio till voodoo sound on the Galaxy S so take my advice as you will.
Impressions of each before I give my tips.
Boom- Good Highs and Lows with leaving the mid lacking some, still ok but If not careful with EQ settings and such you can end up with really blown out bass.
HK - Gives good mids, the bass isnt as good and puts a little more treble in the loud speak than I'd like but nothing too bad (essentially the opposite problem boom has tbh) Highs and Lows can be kind of flat with HK.
Now for my tips if you want to test it and how I set PowerAmp
Before Switching and after Test with these settings
1. In poweramp you need to disable Direct Volume Control
2. Adjust Audio buffer size to +500ms and Thread Priority to +3 (some have reported issues with laggy audio and Poweramp sometimes and this should help)
3.(Optional) I enabled replay gain with the setting of ApplyGain/Prevent Clipping according to Peak with track as source
4.Set your EQ as you like but also test both a Flat EQ.
5. Test on Speakers and Headphones not just one of them.
Now after doing this I noticed that if I used my favored bass/treble EQ with Boom, the bass would get blown way out and essentially overpower everything else turning it to a muddy mess. So then I tried using the mids EQ to boost thee mids a bit with Boom but it just didnt sound right IMO. If I just went with the default Flat EQ I was fine, got good bass and treble but like was said the mids felt lacking. I would say if you continue using Boom I would go with a flat EQ as Boom has the Bass and Treble pretty well taken care of and does really well on the speakers.
Now I've switched to HK, and My first tip with HK is you probably shouldnt use LiveStage as It isnt that great. In testing it seems to be similar to the Environment option in many Audio Driver settings and really doesnt do much for the audio IMO. If you like it thats fine I just dont find it to add much and detracts more than anything. Clari-Fi is a mixed bag, if you have a library full of low to med quality MP3s I would say enable it because it does seem to help some with those. If you have mostly 320kbps MP3 or higher audio then it isnt going to do anything for you and you can disable it. Now with poweramp I used my standard Bass/Treble EQ and It sounds great :] no blown out bass and I also get the advantage of better mids which Boom didnt have. Bass is still a bit less than Boom but with my EQ it helps on the weakness that HK has on the Highs and Lows.
IMO, HK is better over all for me with my Poweramp setup on headphones, but for the built in speakers Boom is definitely better than HK. I leave it to you guys to judge and if there is anyone with more audio experience that has any tips, tricks, etc. feel free to leave it here and I'll add it to the OP. The best thing you can do is test each, dont let me or anyone tell you which is better because it will be subjective.
I decided to stick with Boom as I use the Built in Speakers playing games alot and it works better for them.
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What ROM are you running? If it's ViperOne, Could you please list the steps you took to installing the HK enhancement over BoomSound,
x_V.I.P.3.l2_x said:
What ROM are you running? If it's ViperOne, Could you please list the steps you took to installing the HK enhancement over BoomSound,
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Oh sorry, using clear Rom unfortunately :/
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Oh sorry, using clear Rom unfortunately :/
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No worries, I figured out what happened. The file sys. was mounted as R/O instead of R/W. Thanks
Good write-up. Definitely some things to keep in mind!
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Did you have the "limit" option enabled or disabled?
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If I don't mention it I didn't change it
I was using boom but I've been using my headphones more and more so switched to HK (finally fixed em)
Now I just need to get some new drivers for my Phillips O'Neill Stretchs got them modded atm but looking to get some grados, creative aurvana or Koss Portapro divers to swap in.
Added some other tips regarding headphones and such and some recommended HPs to the OP
Just got around to trying the recommended settings with my headphones. It sounds great!!!! Thanks for the tips I would have never thought of changing them!!!!
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Just got around to trying the recommended settings with my headphones. It sounds great!!!! Thanks for the tips I would have never thought of changing them!!!!
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yea np, glad they helped you out :]
FYI: scrosler, the dev for CleanROM, just re-worked the HK mod, made it ART compatible. In v2 he also used the latest Sprint source which greatly improved the bass on HK - IMO.
You can find his mod here: http://www.scottsroms.com/showthread.php?t=5210
berndblb said:
FYI: scrosler, the dev for CleanROM, just re-worked the HK mod, made it ART compatible. In v2 he also used the latest Sprint source which greatly improved the bass on HK - IMO.
You can find his mod here: http://www.scottsroms.com/showthread.php?t=5210
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Hey thanks for the info! now I can use HK with art! :] been using boom atm testing out art and just had it set to disbled. Ill add it to the OP
x_V.I.P.3.l2_x said:
What ROM are you running? If it's ViperOne, Could you please list the steps you took to installing the HK enhancement over BoomSound,
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Edit the file default.xml in the system\customize\acc folder (make a backup first!), look for item type="boolean" name="support_harman" and change it to true.

[Q] Is that H/K mod really worth it?

I mean, It's just a phone speaker, how much variation in sound quality can there be? Even if I were to use my nice headphones, does the software make an actual difference on such a lo-fi device compared to Boomsound or Dolby (from the 5.0 update)?
It's for fun . Options are fun
When it comes to speakers, it's not too much, since only ClearFi is an option. It just crisps things up a bit. Good for classical, which is about the only thing I listen to only with speakers. But when I use my pair of Sennheiser CX300 in-ear headphones, I use LiveStage for AE-S headphones with ClearFi off, everything sounds amazing. Great bass and clear highs. But I haven't tried it with any other headphones. But it's not going to hurt.
I haven't used H/K in a while, but yes, it makes a difference. Boomsound tunes up the bass to make the phone seem louder. H/K aims for more clarity. I like European symphonic rock/metal (e.g. Nightwish, Within Temptation), and I find with H/K all those sounds come through clearer. For more simple-sounding stuff, like punk and classic rock, Boomsound comes out ahead.
Here's an idea. Get MultiROM, and dual boot Digitalhigh's GPE, and a Sense ROM of your choice. I like Adrenaline, but use whatever. Put H/K on it. It only takes a minute, tops, to boot into the other ROM, once you've got them both set up. So play some tunes with one, then boot into the other, and play the same tunes. It depends on the music you like and what you want to get out of it. For example, EDM is getting to be a big thing. While I'm not a fan, I have listened to deadmau5 and Skrillex (they were free on the Play Store), and while I don't "get" it, I do wonder if Boomsound would be preferred, to make it thump harder, or H/K so you can hear all the subtleties (more deadma5 than Skrillex). Country is another one that might be able to go either way. Also, the change isn't huge. But I can notice it.
I use my phone a LOT for playing music in my Tahoe - I have an interface that connects to the radio and I use the headphone jack. H/K with Viper4Android is what I've found gives me the best clarity and least distortion, not to mention the power the equalizer has. I'm using H/K with ClariFi, V4A with Viper Bass and Clarity, and damn it sounds amazing. I tried it with just Boomsound and V4A, but it still didn't have the crispness.
I love the hk mod and I can very easily tell the difference its even better than dolby on sense 7 as I removed the dolby and got the hk mod back on with the fluent 7.0 sense rom.
I'm a metal listener (pick a genre) I'm on a sense Rom with BoomSound and v4a... And there is a huge difference just with adding v4a... Haven't really tried any of the others. But with this setup I can pick out things I didn't hear before software makes a difference... Can't have hardware without software

Any Audiophiles User On S8+ ? Need Some Questions Answered?

What audio formats does the galaxy S8+ supports? I’m not talking about Audio Playback Format. I’m asking about Quality for instant is High-Resolution Audio same as PCM or DSD: DSD 64 / 128 can someone point or explain what all this means ?
Also I just found out about the Sony has a high res player is out on the market only a few days ago..
How does the galaxy S8+ compete with Sony high res audio player? Please see link Sony high res audio player
Other thing what would be the best headphones, or over the ear phones to experience the best audio quality on the S8+ ? At the moment I’m using Bose QC35 They are a decent pair of over the ear headphones, but of course not the best.
They do have a pretty awesome sound signature, but I’m sure there must be better out there, Sony Bluetooth headphones just released how much would I benefit using these with the S8+ As I have checked the Samsung website they don’t really tell you much on the specs link for Sony WH-1000XM2 Thanks peeps
Mods, i hope this isn’t in the wrong section. Thanks
I use Audio-Technica ATH-R70X, They sound great with lossless content, and the output jack on the phone supplies plenty of power to push them. With an external amp you may have better results, but I cant tell. I cant imagine that the S8+ wouldn't playback high quality audio, as long as your source material is high quality. As for the specs, not a clue... sorry!
N1NJATH3ORY said:
What audio formats does the galaxy S8+ supports? I’m not talking about Audio Playback Format. I’m asking about Quality for instant is High-Resolution Audio same as PCM or DSD: DSD 64 / 128 can someone point or explain what all this means ?
Also I just found out about the Sony has a high res player is out on the market only a few days ago..
How does the galaxy S8+ compete with Sony high res audio player? Please see link Sony high res audio player
Other thing what would be the best headphones, or over the ear phones to experience the best audio quality on the S8+ ? At the moment I’m using Bose QC35 They are a decent pair of over the ear headphones, but of course not the best.
They do have a pretty awesome sound signature, but I’m sure there must be better out there, Sony Bluetooth headphones just released how much would I benefit using these with the S8+ As I have checked the Samsung website they don’t really tell you much on the specs link for Sony WH-1000XM2 Thanks peeps
Mods, i hope this isn’t in the wrong section. Thanks
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Some facts that might help with your decision:
* The part of your body that actually pics up sound is tuned to convert sound waves from 20Hz-20,000Hz (cycles per second) to electrical signals your brain can process.
* Digital music is converted from analog by chopping up the signal in Time and Amplitude (Sample Rate and Bit Depth). CD's and most other digital music Sample the Analog waveform 44,100 times a second and have 65534 (16-bit signed) possible amplitude levels per sample.
* You can lossless convert the 16-bit 44.1KHz signal back to a analog waveform that has a SNR of 98dB and a frequency range of 0-22,050Hz.
* It is very unlikely you are able to hear past 18KHz by the time you're in your 30's
* Passing Ultrasonic's into a driver (speaker) can at best not provide any advantage other than wasted amplifier power and at worst degrade the parts of the audible spectrum.
* High quality compressed music (AAC, OPUS, MP3, DD, DTS, Etc.) is in-distinguishable from the original digitized source because of the way our auditory system works (Psychoacoustics). - While I'd love to get into reasons why it is past my current knowledge level. But you can start here if you want to dive in deeper https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychoacoustics
"High-Res" audio is marketing.
The Galaxy S8's DAC+AMP is average, but as long as you're not driving a pair of high impedance headphones or have the volume cranked to the max it should be fine. - https://www.devicespecifications.com/en/editor-review/7e2439/12
As for headphones no one can tell you what you will like, but I've been regularly impressed by The Wirecutter's recommendations on speakers and headphones. They do measurements and also have a group of people listen to each model, so you're not getting a single persons opinion - http://thewirecutter.com/leaderboard/headphones/
Make sure to scroll down; what looks like ad's (because they have prices at the bottom) are actually articles with recommended headphones and also alternatives.
You really can't expect any kind of audiophile experience without a version of Viper4android.
Quad5Ny said:
Some facts that might help with your decision:
* The part of your body that actually pics up sound is tuned to convert sound waves from 20Hz-20,000Hz (cycles per second) to electrical signals your brain can process.
* Digital music is converted from analog by chopping up the signal in Time and Amplitude (Sample Rate and Bit Depth). CD's and most other digital music Sample the Analog waveform 44,100 times a second and have 65534 (16-bit signed) possible amplitude levels per sample.
* You can lossless convert the 16-bit 44.1KHz signal back to a analog waveform that has a SNR of 98dB and a frequency range of 0-22,050Hz.
* It is very unlikely you are able to hear past 18KHz by the time you're in your 30's
* Passing Ultrasonic's into a driver (speaker) can at best not provide any advantage other than wasted amplifier power and at worst degrade the parts of the audible spectrum.
* High quality compressed music (AAC, OPUS, MP3, DD, DTS, Etc.) is in-distinguishable from the original digitized source because of the way our auditory system works (Psychoacoustics). - While I'd love to get into reasons why it is past my current knowledge level. But you can start here if you want to dive in deeper https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychoacoustics
"High-Res" audio is marketing.
The Galaxy S8's DAC+AMP is average, but as long as you're not driving a pair of high impedance headphones or have the volume cranked to the max it should be fine. - https://www.devicespecifications.com/en/editor-review/7e2439/12
As for headphones no one can tell you what you will like, but I've been regularly impressed by The Wirecutter's recommendations on speakers and headphones. They do measurements and also have a group of people listen to each model, so you're not getting a single persons opinion - http://thewirecutter.com/leaderboard/headphones/
Make sure to scroll down; what looks like ad's (because they have prices at the bottom) are actually articles with recommended headphones and also alternatives.
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I've compared a lot in the $100-$400 range and the ones that came out on top for me were:
1. Meze 99 CLASSICS My fav https://www.mezeaudio.com/collections/all/products/meze-99-classics-walnut-silver-wood-headphones
2. ATH-MSR7
3.ATH-M50x
vibrantliker said:
I've compared a lot in the $100-$400 range and the ones that came out on top for me were:
1. Meze 99 CLASSICS My fav https://www.mezeaudio.com/collections/all/products/meze-99-classics-walnut-silver-wood-headphones
2. ATH-MSR7
3.ATH-M50x
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Going by the frequency response graphs:
Meze 99 Classics - They will sound warm (especially female vocals), average sound stage, while still having a crisp high end.
ATH-MSR7 - Not as warm, larger sound stage, high end will have more sparkle and the "I can feel it" part of bass will be more pronounced.
From personal experience:
ATH-M50x - Meh. They can sound great if calibrated, but I never cared for them otherwise.
For best quality, use a lossless formats such as WAV or FLAC but check first that they are not upsampled mp3s. If you want to save space and use mp3 format, look for a bitrate of 256kbps+ (ideally 320kbps)
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You really can't expect any kind of audiophile experience without a version of Viper4android.
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True but its not worth rooting yet the S8+ just for V4A!
N1NJATH3ORY said:
True but its not worth rooting yet the S8+ just for V4A!
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Why not?
vibrantliker said:
Why not?
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Here see this thread why I choose not to root https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s8+/help/root-root-t3625793
You can't expect any kind of audiophile experience without actual stereo equipment high end speakers, Highs, Mids, Full range, and a bottom firing sub, biamped, triamped, and a center spaced sub, and then every speaker has to be tuned to your specific space in a deadened room. So if that is the kind of audiophile sound you want from your phone its just not going to happen. This phone sounds better than any other that I have ever owned or heard. Viper audio is crap, its just a front end for ALSA to make use of very limited power to make the tiny speakers in ear buds or over the ear anything go BOOM just a bit more. Don't waste your money on stupid high end headphones the biggest difference between most of them is the amount of stuffing they put in them to keep them from rattling, and please never ever spend more than 20 bucks for ear buds. I have a set of $18 dollar ear buds that I bought at a flying-J truck stop that sound and preform just as well as my $300 dollar Bose Bluetooth ear buds...I paid $280 for a name. (not knocking Bose I love their home audio stuff, but they got me with the ear buds) Lossless files are the way to go for sure, and if you were to use this phone as the music provider for a stereo system, the sound you would want coming out of it (because you are using it as a preamp) would be dead flat..... The Same thing goes for your car or home stereo using the Bluetooth or a direct line out of the phone into a stereo system....the sound coming out of the phone should be flat or you are EQ'ing an EQ and you are defeating the purpose of the equalizer in the stereo, you are essentially feeding the stereo digital noise, (just try it, trust me) (you wont be sorry). Let the stereo do the work let the phone be the high end preamp and it shouldn't be turned up more than half way. Oh and just so you know in not some wind bag ,, I'm giving you practical, useful, WORKING, knowledge. I have been a working Professional Musician for over 30 years. In and out of studios recording,,,,,AND many many many hundreds of shows and sound issues that have been dealt with. So take it for what its worth... and now i'm going to go loose myself with some with some Pink Floyd and Mozart..............Peace..
malebornin69 said:
You can't expect any kind of audiophile experience without actual stereo equipment high end speakers, Highs, Mids, Full range, and a bottom firing sub, biamped, triamped, and a center spaced sub, and then every speaker has to be tuned to your specific space in a deadened room. So if that is the kind of audiophile sound you want from your phone its just not going to happen. This phone sounds better than any other that I have ever owned or heard. Viper audio is crap, its just a front end for ALSA to make use of very limited power to make the tiny speakers in ear buds or over the ear anything go BOOM just a bit more. Don't waste your money on stupid high end headphones the biggest difference between most of them is the amount of stuffing they put in them to keep them from rattling, and please never ever spend more than 20 bucks for ear buds. I have a set of $18 dollar ear buds that I bought at a flying-J truck stop that sound and preform just as well as my $300 dollar Bose Bluetooth ear buds...I paid $280 for a name. (not knocking Bose I love their home audio stuff, but they got me with the ear buds) Lossless files are the way to go for sure, and if you were to use this phone as the music provider for a stereo system, the sound you would want coming out of it (because you are using it as a preamp) would be dead flat..... The Same thing goes for your car or home stereo using the Bluetooth or a direct line out of the phone into a stereo system....the sound coming out of the phone should be flat or you are EQ'ing an EQ and you are defeating the purpose of the equalizer in the stereo, you are essentially feeding the stereo digital noise, (just try it, trust me) (you wont be sorry). Let the stereo do the work let the phone be the high end preamp and it shouldn't be turned up more than half way. Oh and just so you know in not some wind bag ,, I'm giving you practical useful, knowledge.
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What do you recommended that has best audio quality for mobile use? I mean, I use the LG V20 with Viper4Arise with good headphones and it blows me away how good it sounds.
vibrantliker said:
What do you recommended that has best audio quality for mobile use? I mean, I use the LG V20 with Viper4Arise with good headphones and it blows me away how good it sounds.
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Exactly what you are doing if that is what sounds good to you.... I would ask you to do one thing and see how it sounds... if you are going to use Viper then just use Viper.... Flatten out every other EQ that you would be sending the EQ'd sound from your phone to... then just use the viper eq until you have the sound you are looking for.
As far as headphones/earbuds are concerned. I have a free standing hat rack full of them.. I use them according to the music I am listening to, But if you want my honest opinion ( and i know someone will call me stupid, not that I care,) I use a pair of Beats, over ear, with noise canceling, wired, as my go to headphones,,,, and the stock earbuds that came with my S8+ .... They are made by AKG.... You can get stupid and spend a lot of money (like thousands) trying to get better sound from a substandard tinny tiny under powered sound card,,, and never find the right equipment to get the job done... and never realize its not the equipment you are buying but the equipment you are using,, inst getting the job done
I had Lg g6 and it has better Audio than the S8 + ,definitely.
I just can't believe any professional can suggest Bose, Beats or phone stock AKG. Did you ever try them? For studio purpose you are using monitors... maybe this is why...
Try something what make sense- don't be like sheep- buying beats or bose just for brand and color? Get proper AKG, Beyerdynamic are not massively expensive or Sennheiser ie80. I would not recommend headphones over £300 because you not gonna notice any difference. EQ or any funny software- I prefer flat sound but everyone is individual...
+1 to this. With all due respect but no real professional would say that an $18 pair of buds would produce the same sound quality like a +$300 pair of westone or senheiser or any other prestigious brand in ear monitors. This post was addressed to audiophiles and obviously OP you should expect answers from real ones.
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I just can't believe any professional can suggest Bose, Beats or phone stock AKG. Did you ever try them? For studio purpose you are using monitors... maybe this is why...
Try something what make sense- don't be like sheep- buying beats or bose just for brand and color? Get proper AKG, Beyerdynamic are not massively expensive or Sennheiser ie80. I would not recommend headphones over £300 because you not gonna notice any difference. EQ or any funny software- I prefer flat sound but everyone is individual...
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Samsung's S8 phone connected with the LDAC codec with Sony's WH-1000XM2 headphone is a combination made in heaven! There is presently no other wireless pair that comes close to this combination. The key is the LDAC bluetooth codec.

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