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I have been using this build for quite a while now and decided to write a review of the ROM. Please keep in mind I am not a developer !!! I am simply writing this from a user standpoint and cannot nor will not support your problems. This is a review based on my opinions and usage of the ROM.
Pros:
I do like the UI. It is fairly stable and I haven't had much trouble out of it for the most part. The combination of ADW Launcher and the Cyanogen settings are great. The speed of the ROM is pretty good for a ported ROM based on GingerBread. I can't complain much about that. General things that I like are the advanced menus for customizing the dock and theme settings. The themed settings change icons for contacts, mail, messaging, phone, browser,calendar, and videos ( I may have missed some). The cyanogen settings cover an array of things that you can poke at but in my opinion should be included with stock builds as well. Overall if you were wanting to use this on a daily basis I think you would be ok to go ahead and install this ROM... NOTE: Don't hold me responsible if you brick your phone trying. It isn't one of the easiest roms I've
ever installed. The sleep policy has been fixed so that the phone doesn't reboot on unlock...which on my first flash hadn't been fixed and really really turned me off from this ROM.
Cons: I have yet to figure out why this is (again not a dev) but your microSD card will not mount when connected to the pc. I'm sure they are working on this but I haven't downloaded an update or nightly (which is current at the time of this post btw) that has fixed it. I do have some random picky things that I can't get an answer to, and good luck if you do...feel free to send them to me also. Some of my .mp3 ringtones will not work period. Different ones of even larger file size work... I'm not sure how that works out. Text messaging (native) doesn't work for incoming or outgoing... But I will say that I was having issues with that before so I can't blame that on this ROM. There are a few apps that won't work with this build easy uninstaller is one, I just get a fc. Battery is another issue that may be addressed with future releases. I don't run GPS (so don't ask if it's accurate) but keep wifi on all the time. I get probably about 8 hours with wifi on all the time. Not the best but definitely not the worst. You also cannot charge the phone while it is off... really not sure why, and the extended power menu doesn't work. And for the most part is an in depth install procedure... Back to stock with odin, flash two kernals, then a couple of files... Pretty lengthy and you have to be precise or else it bricks. Here it is if your interested... Thanks to MobileTechVideos for the instructions and video.
How to install CyanogenMod7
Other than that I have had virtually no problems (that I consider major) with this ROM and do like it and will probably continue to use it. If you have any general questions please feel free to ask. Again, again... I am not a dev so questions of that nature should be posted here: CyanogenMod7
I tried it and liked what works but it is still alpha quality and so i will wait for a few weeks until i give it another shot.
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I tried it and liked what works but it is still alpha quality and so i will wait for a few weeks until i give it another shot.
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I agree, it is definitely still a beta build and as noted by Cyanogen... hasn't been put into the stable build section of their forums. I do look forward to a stable build. Perhaps the Dev's can address some of the weird issues that I mentioned above.
i also was not able to send multi media mms never would go through i tried for 20 mins to receive and send ,
this rom is great but here is why it sucks, i watch the cyanogen nightlies for the galaxy s phones, and with the types of updates im seeing on the cappy versus lets say the vibrant , there is no ****ing hope and this rom is dead.
the last update fixed an install file wtf. so at this rate cyanogen will be rc in o id say next year. ill have a new phone by then. my money is on miui
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I agree, it is definitely still a beta build and as noted by Cyanogen... hasn't been put into the stable build section of their forums. I do look forward to a stable build. Perhaps the Dev's can address some of the weird issues that I mentioned above.
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Well you completely forgot to mention that, currently it cannot handle lots of video format, most importantly mkv and even if you find something like Rock Player, there's a lot of lag in it. You cannot charge the phone while its off (because it'll turn on as soon as you plug the charger in). Also, you might encounter a totally new problem which you may not have an idea about. If captivate is your spare phone then play with it else stay away for a while until a RC is released.
This is just my opinion from 3 days of experience on CM7.
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It was a total flop for me :/
It ran well when I first installed it, but started running "funny" (random crashing) after I installed gapps, then totally started crapping out after the 3/16 update.
I ended up ditching it for a 2.2 rom, mostly because I didn't feel I was gaining anything substantive and losing things I regularly use, like a feature rich camera app and divx playback support.
Been running for 3 days. 0 problems.
I've ran into a few bugs. External SD, booting when usb plugged in. Only charging to 95% (apparently a feature not a bug). At one point my signal shot down to searching, then it recovered and grabbed a signal. Not sure what caused that, but it was random.
I also cannot get it to mount to my PC. Kind of annoying, but if I need to transfer anything I just use dropbox.
I like it, and I think I'll keep with it. Even though it isn't 100%, I love gingerbread, and it's working for me.
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Well you completely forgot to mention that, currently it cannot handle lots of video format, most importantly mkv and even if you find something like Rock Player, there's a lot of lag in it. You cannot charge the phone while its off (because it'll turn on as soon as you plug the charger in). Also, you might encounter a totally new problem which you may not have an idea about. If captivate is your spare phone then play with it else stay away for a while until a RC is released.
This is just my opinion from 3 days of experience on CM7.
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I did forget that you cannot charge the phone while off and now that you mention it the extended power menu doesn't work either. It is fairly aggravating that Cyanogen updates the vibrant with "real" fixes other than this fixing little things but... All in all, it is still usable, just not stable or reliable.
Every time I try and warn someone that CM7 is not yet ready for primetime I get bashed for it, yet there seem to be plenty of people echoing my comments. Like I said in another thread, the people that are saying CM7 is stable and works great are either not using their device to its full potential or are willing to live without certain features. There is really no compelling reason to live with a ROM that has this many bugs or deficiencies when you consider how many really good ROMs there are available for our Cappys that have few, if any, issues. Yeah, they may not have Gingerbready theming or cutesy animations, but they just work. Andromeda 1.2 is one that comes to mind.
I am on it from I think last friday...Not a single problem...atleast how i use it...of course except battery life...which I am trying to solve...
Rock player worked well for me...I watched couple of movies when I was on road....never lagged just stopped couple of times....
great GPS...instant locks...i am amazed...But I also tried MIUI...and it is very very fast...and something different which I never experienced before...I think people should give it a try...ofcourse it has bugs too as it based on CM7...but they fixed camera bug and little stuff.....
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Every time I try and warn someone that CM7 is not yet ready for primetime I get bashed for it, yet there seem to be plenty of people echoing my comments. Like I said in another thread, the people that are saying CM7 is stable and works great are either not using their device to its full potential or are willing to live without certain features. There is really no compelling reason to live with a ROM that has this many bugs or deficiencies when you consider how many really good ROMs there are available for our Cappys that have few, if any, issues. Yeah, they may not have Gingerbready theming or cutesy animations, but they just work. Andromeda 1.2 is one that comes to mind.
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I am by no means saying that it is ready for the masses... The only one that I would suggest without a second thought to someone who isn't willing to deal with at least some problems is Cognition Series by DesignGears. To my knowledge (and opinion) this is the absolute best rom for the captivate. IF ... Cyanogen gets to the point of a Cognition rom in function and use, then I might suggest it for the masses but not until then.
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Every time I try and warn someone that CM7 is not yet ready for primetime I get bashed for it, yet there seem to be plenty of people echoing my comments. Like I said in another thread, the people that are saying CM7 is stable and works great are either not using their device to its full potential or are willing to live without certain features. There is really no compelling reason to live with a ROM that has this many bugs or deficiencies when you consider how many really good ROMs there are available for our Cappys that have few, if any, issues. Yeah, they may not have Gingerbready theming or cutesy animations, but they just work. Andromeda 1.2 is one that comes to mind.
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Your right in regard to it not being ready for most users (many are already praising the miui 2.3.3 also which is even less stable.....not saying it isn't promising). I think it breaks into 2 camps.
1. If you are a power user that wants all aspects of your device to function as intended...not for you. More specifically, If you use an external SD especially if your moving files to and from mounted to a PC....this is not the rom for you (this is my biggest gripe at this point). If you do lots of video in different formats...not for you as you will face compatibility issues. If you have to ask how your flash back to stock....this is probably not for you. If you value battery life as a top priority...not yet for you. Most of the other deficiencies or shortcomings had adequate work arounds but you until the major issues are resolved you will quickly find yourself flashing back to Phoenix, Firefly, Serendipity, Andromeda, etc.)
2. If you don't use and external SD and/or do much media vid/music then i can see why many view this as "stable" for their purposes. The UI, menus, and animations are smooth/fast and i never really had any issues with force closes while using it. Maybe its better linguistically to say its incomplete rather than refer to is as unstable and sorry if it offends the early adopters but if you are using it as your daily driver its pretty obvious you are using an inferior rom @ this point.
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I am by no means saying that it is ready for the masses... The only one that I would suggest without a second thought to someone who isn't willing to deal with at least some problems is Cognition Series by DesignGears. To my knowledge (and opinion) this is the absolute best rom for the captivate. IF ... Cyanogen gets to the point of a Cognition rom in function and use, then I might suggest it for the masses but not until then.
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i would easily put a handful of roms on par with cognition:
Firefly, Supernova, Phoenix, Serendipity, Andromeda.
bames said:
Your right in regard to it not being ready for most users (many are already praising the miui 2.3.3 also which is even less stable.....not saying it isn't promising). I think it breaks into 2 camps.
1. If you are a power user that wants all aspects of your device to function as intended...not for you. More specifically, If you use an external SD especially if your moving files to and from mounted to a PC....this is not the rom for you (this is my biggest gripe at this point). If you do lots of video in different formats...not for you as you will face compatibility issues. If you have to ask how your flash back to stock....this is probably not for you. If you value battery life as a top priority...not yet for you. Most of the other deficiencies or shortcomings had adequate work arounds but you until the major issues are resolved you will quickly find yourself flashing back to Phoenix, Firefly, Serendipity, Andromeda, etc.)
2. If you don't use and external SD and/or do much media vid/music then i can see why many view this as "stable" for their purposes. The UI, menus, and animations are smooth/fast and i never really had any issues with force closes while using it. Maybe its better linguistically to say its incomplete rather than refer to is as unstable and sorry if it offends the early adopters but if you are using it as your daily driver its pretty obvious you are using an inferior rom @ this point.
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Excellent post.
Glad to see users sharing their experience on CM7. This is always good foe the community. I hope to see new users to read this thread prior to making any decision whether to flash CM7 2.3.3 or not.
On another note, I'm sure once Samsung do final release of Gingerbread 2.3.3 for i9000 series (last I heard that an early beta was released), we cappyites will see stable release.
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Regarding the phone turning on when charging, I believe it's a gingerbread "feature". It's been said that it is working as intended. Also, the iphone does the same thing so I don't really see it as an issue. It's probably google seeing behavior they like and implementing it.
You can not mount the external sd but you can transfer to your internal then on the phone transfer to external, so I am not certain it Is fair to say you can not use your external sd. Video is an issue, and battery is as well.
At this point in time it is a trade off, there are several things cm7 can't do well or can not do at all. there are also several things it does much better than any 2.2 rom or are not available on 2.2 roms.
Its all preference and priorities. Kinda like any best rom discussion.
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Every time I try and warn someone that CM7 is not yet ready for primetime I get bashed for it, yet there seem to be plenty of people echoing my comments. Like I said in another thread, the people that are saying CM7 is stable and works great are either not using their device to its full potential or are willing to live without certain features. There is really no compelling reason to live with a ROM that has this many bugs or deficiencies when you consider how many really good ROMs there are available for our Cappys that have few, if any, issues. Yeah, they may not have Gingerbready theming or cutesy animations, but they just work. Andromeda 1.2 is one that comes to mind.
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Largely it its because you have never used it, and have only tried one rom. That and you are compelled to jump on any thread that mentions it as if it is a personal mission. It its not as if you do not make some valid points, but it is not hard to see why it may rub some the wrong way after a while.
This is not an attempt to start something, but your comments make it seem like there is no warrant to people who go back at you.
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Largely it its because you have never used it, and have only tried one rom. That and you are compelled to jump on any thread that mentions it as if it is a personal mission. It its not as if you do not make some valid points, but it is not hard to see why it may rub some the wrong way after a while.
This is not an attempt to start something, but your comments make it seem like there is no warrant to people who go back at you.
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Agreed... I was not trying to start a thread to bash any rom. However I do know that there are some hard feelings that are out based on certain features that work or don't and peoples impressions about the ROM itself. I also know that there is quite a bit of loyalty to certain ROM creators that no matter what they aren't going to be going to a new ROM simply because they are loyal to that dev... which is fine! I simply wanted to create an avenue for people who have used the ROM to pass along information and opinions on the ROM to people who are thinking about switching to it. People are entitled to their opinions and I am all for that... Just don't bash any of the devs or their work, it is not easy putting this stuff together and I for one am happy that I have a place I can go to that allows me to get away from stock. I hope that all will realize that
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Largely it its because you have never used it, and have only tried one rom. That and you are compelled to jump on any thread that mentions it as if it is a personal mission. It its not as if you do not make some valid points, but it is not hard to see why it may rub some the wrong way after a while.
This is not an attempt to start something, but your comments make it seem like there is no warrant to people who go back at you.
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The terminology might be better as incomplete instead of unstable. great post.
For you guys that have tried all of the ICS ROM's, which one do you recommend?
It is hard to determine from the threads as they don't list what is working/not working. The ones i can see available right now are:
1) AOKP
2) Genesis
3) Owain
4) Hellfire
5) Eaglesblood AOSP
Thanks, Chris
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For you guys that have tried all of the ICS ROM's, which one do you recommend?
It is hard to determine from the threads as they don't list what is working/not working. The ones i can see available right now are:
1) AOKP
2) Genesis
3) Owain
4) Hellfire
5) Eaglesblood AOSP
Thanks, Chris
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Just search the threads for the word working. Or look at the other threads like this, there's a ton of e'm
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Use them all then decide which one YOU like best.
This is exactly what i want to avoid. Reading through thousands of posts or flashing and using several different roms. I am looking for input from people who have already done this.
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This is exactly what i want to avoid. Reading through thousands of posts or flashing and using several different roms. I am looking for input from people who have already done this.
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I usually don't respond to topics like this, and i'm sorry if this sounds mean, but that just sounds lazy.
i like EB ICS AOSP combined with the apex launcher, i just flashed hellfire last night and my screen doesnt come on sometimes, and i would have to take out the batt and reboot the phone.
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This is exactly what i want to avoid. Reading through thousands of posts or flashing and using several different roms. I am looking for input from people who have already done this.
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I dont mean to bash or anything, but there are many threads very similiar to this one, and you cant really base yourself on other people's input because every phone
is different. Most of the time someones ROM+Kernel combo might be very terrible on your phone while some might even work fime. Regardless of whether you want to do it or not, the best way to find out what the 'best' ROM is would be to flash and use every ROM you think is interesting and in the end decide which one worked best on your phone and then go on and try different Kernels to see if there is any improvement.
Again i dont meant to flame.
Good luck!
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Owain+Harsh kernel because I like USB Mass Storage. lol
Mr. Apocalypse said:
I usually don't respond to topics like this, and i'm sorry if this sounds mean, but that just sounds lazy.
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Reinventing the wheel is stupid. Is it lazy to look up that gravitational acceleration on Earth is 9.8m/s squared, or should I start dropping rocks off a high building to figure it out myself? It is lazy to look up Amazon reviews on a product, or should I order each and every one myself and then decide the merits independently?
There are like 20 damn ICS ROMs for the P999, all of which are probably 95% the same except for stupid stuff like theme/colors. It's confusing as hell.
Which ones are good? Which ones are lame? In what way? I want to know as well.
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Reinventing the wheel is stupid. Is it lazy to look up that gravitational acceleration on Earth is 9.8m/s squared, or should I start dropping rocks off a high building to figure it out myself? It is lazy to look up Amazon reviews on a product, or should I order each and every one myself and then decide the merits independently?
There are like 20 damn ICS ROMs for the P999, all of which are probably 95% the same except for stupid stuff like theme/colors. It's confusing as hell.
Which ones are good? Which ones are lame? In what way? I want to know as well.
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Each phone is unique, like people. Same parts, different ways of working, different ways of responding to different mods. What's lame to one person may not be lame to the next guy. What runs well for you may not run well for him. The ONLY way to find out what works best for you and your phone is to experiment with all of them, try them out for about a week each and stay on whatever you like best. That is what we all do. There was no magic guru or button that told us what was best. I've seen hundreds of these kinds of posts, and it asks the same question and gets the same replies. And last I looked, there wasn't 20 ICS roms in the p999 section, GB maybe but not ICS. There are about 7, Owain's, HFS, 2 Eaglesbloods, AOKP, Arcee's SelfKang and Genesis. Try them all, rate them and you decide for yourself what's best for you .
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lannister80 said:
Reinventing the wheel is stupid. Is it lazy to look up that gravitational acceleration on Earth is 9.8m/s squared, or should I start dropping rocks off a high building to figure it out myself? It is lazy to look up Amazon reviews on a product, or should I order each and every one myself and then decide the merits independently?
There are like 20 damn ICS ROMs for the P999, all of which are probably 95% the same except for stupid stuff like theme/colors. It's confusing as hell.
Which ones are good? Which ones are lame? In what way? I want to know as well.
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Lol your metaphor mages perfect sense, no need to re-invent the wheel. Try searching. Turns out, most of those threads do actually say what does and does not work in them. If you search the threads for the word "working" look at the last 10 posts to get a good idea.
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Klathmon said:
Lol your metaphor mages perfect sense, no need to re-invent the wheel. Try searching. Turns out, most of those threads do actually say what does and does not work in them. If you search the threads for the word "working" look at the last 10 posts to get a good idea.
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Its basically high school or college all over again, you got the cheaters and lazies that just ask something simple and wait for the answer, instead of doing some research and learning things them selves... just like teachers used to do, they'd just ignore, or say figure it out on your own.
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So far I've tried HFS 1.4 and 1.6, EB, and I'm currently on AOKP build 32. I'm going to try Genesis this weekend when the next build is released. They all more or less run the same. EB is pretty bare with less options and it may just be my mind, but it feels like it runs the smoothest, but it's lacking some features that the other ROMs have that I wish it icluded. The difference between HFS and AOKP are mostly cosmetic and how you can customize them. It does seems like AOKP has more data connection dropping issues than both HFS and EB, though. I know it's a known problem with ICS ROMs, but I didn't really notice before when using either HFS or EB, but with AOKP I've noticed it frequently or maybe I've just been playing on my phone more.
If I had to choose? I honestly don't know. If it wasn't for the more apparent data drops, I'd probably just stay on AOKP. HFS added some cosmetic changes I really didn't like (the red star when answering calls), but I'm looking forward to the next build. If I wasn't hopping back and forth between different ROMs, though, I'd probably just stay on EB.
Thanks for the response. I am on EB AOSP right now and it works fairly well. The only feature i am really missing is the call mute, and of course HW Encoder/decoder which is missing from all ICS roms.
Chris
I definitely sympathize with the question even if I also agree that which rom is the best is very subjective. I started trying out all the ICS roms a few weeks ago and thought I'd have a clear favorite in the end but I was wrong.
Stability wise all the ICS roms are very similar. They all have an unfortunate issue of having trouble switching over to data from wifi, for which airplane toggle off and on usually fixes it for me - this sounds like a base ICS 4.0.4 issue. For me they also periodically slow down and even crash and the overall performance is quite a bit worse than GB, but the features make it so that I can't go back to GB and it is stable and fast enough. I also noticed some random incompatibilities with apps, like I can't press the install button in the Amazon App Store (anyone know if there is a fix for that?)
Like the above commenter, Eaglesblood AOSP seemed the most stable to me and I will be checking it out again when they have a new release. That said I am currently using Genesis (+ Harsh Kernel), which is based on AOKP, and it is very nice. For me, personally, right now, it's between Eaglesblood AOSP (when the new ver hits) and Genesis though all of the roms have their bonuses and I change my mind pretty often. HFS has great visual flair and was pretty stable for me, owain does a bunch of tweaks / fixes to the base CM9, AOKP has a ton of configuration settings.
TL;DR: ICS is definitely still beta but you can't go wrong with any of the ICS roms.
lannister80 said:
Reinventing the wheel is stupid. Is it lazy to look up that gravitational acceleration on Earth is 9.8m/s squared, or should I start dropping rocks off a high building to figure it out myself? It is lazy to look up Amazon reviews on a product, or should I order each and every one myself and then decide the merits independently?
There are like 20 damn ICS ROMs for the P999, all of which are probably 95% the same except for stupid stuff like theme/colors. It's confusing as hell.
Which ones are good? Which ones are lame? In what way? I want to know as well.
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There are 5 ICS ROMs. If you can't take the time to try out 5 ROMs, but expect other people to do it for you, you should just stick with the ****ty stock firmware.
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Mr. Apocalypse said:
Each phone is unique, like people. Same parts, different ways of working, different ways of responding to different mods. What's lame to one person may not be lame to the next guy. What runs well for you may not run well for him. The ONLY way to find out what works best for you and your phone is to experiment with all of them, try them out for about a week each and stay on whatever you like best. That is what we all do. There was no magic guru or button that told us what was best. I've seen hundreds of these kinds of posts, and it asks the same question and gets the same replies. And last I looked, there wasn't 20 ICS roms in the p999 section, GB maybe but not ICS. There are about 7, Owain's, HFS, 2 Eaglesbloods, AOKP, Arcee's SelfKang and Genesis. Try them all, rate them and you decide for yourself what's best for you .
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EB CM9 is not relevant anymore ans neither are the selfkangs, so 5.
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lannister80 said:
Reinventing the wheel is stupid. Is it lazy to look up that gravitational acceleration on Earth is 9.8m/s squared, or should I start dropping rocks off a high building to figure it out myself? It is lazy to look up Amazon reviews on a product, or should I order each and every one myself and then decide the merits independently?
There are like 20 damn ICS ROMs for the P999, all of which are probably 95% the same except for stupid stuff like theme/colors. It's confusing as hell.
Which ones are good? Which ones are lame? In what way? I want to know as well.
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Ironically you proved his point. You just advocated doing some research to find the answer where it is already documented. (You said look it up.. not post a question and hope someone tells you.)
But to answer your question none of the G2x ICS ROMs are all there at this point. You will likely find something you don't like or doesn't work as well as it should with all of them. It's just where we are in the cycle and there are no stock ROMs to work with to solve some of the things like hardware acceleration.
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This is exactly what i want to avoid. Reading through thousands of posts or flashing and using several different roms. I am looking for input from people who have already done this.
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Flashing roms and experimenting with each one is suppose to be FUN! I always enjoy flashing different roms and trying them out.
The devs provide these roms free of charge and now you're too lazy to even use them to your advantage? Wow.
And I can understand if you're looking for reviews while you are buying something, but this is free. And plus when people post their favorite roms, its kind of an insult to the other devs because roms shouldn't even be compared and I doubt the devs want their roms to be compared.
Just try them all and judge for yourself which one is right for you.
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It doesn't hurt to give a small review of the rom, though, if someone just wants your opinion. Eventually, he'll probably get around to trying them , but maybe he just wants a place to start for now. At the very least, be a bit less eilitist when you're saying for him to try the roms for himself.
Im coming from the vibrant 3g and came lurking thru these dev forums to see what my phones big brother has to offer....
Damn how depressing lol.
Well anyways, i couldnt figure out which roms were what and what they had to offer etc sooo
Im just curious what diff roms you guys have
Gb, froyo, maybe ics?
Focus is on stability
So what roms are your most stable and what are ttheir biggest downsides..
Approx how is your performance and maybe benchmark scores?
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I'm only familiar with 3 rom's and am happy with all 3.
Like you I came here from the vibrant about a year ago due to I broke mine.....yea there's not much here but there is a little
The 3 rom's I've used are whitehawxs Valhalla final(if you recall whitehawxs came from the vibrant) but I made a lot of changes to his due to several things like the pink unicorn.
Valhalla black by Raver,nice rom I'm using it now.
And last but not least ravers miui rom.....I really love miui but on this phone they haven't yet been able to get ringtones and vibration working due to lack of files needed being released
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We have a CM7 WIP.
GPS and BT don't work yet, but it is constantly being worked on by our team acid. (Mainly Bhundven and M4xm4n).
Also, the battery life isn't all the way up, but I am using it.
It's is lightning fast, and not fast like people say about valhalla. This is AOSP fast!
@Shortbus-Driver, it's Whitehawkx(spelling) LOL
LOL yea its all good....just didn't feel like going back and correcting everything its bad enough I had to go back and correct Tom to rom like 4-5 times LOL I had just flashed vb and you know how that is with the keyboard settings
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Im coming from the vibrant 3g
Damn how depressing lol.
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Yes, me too... and yes... sad that people are such jerks over here.
Gb, froyo, maybe ics?
Focus is on stability
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I'm using Valhalla Black by Raverx3x http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1404863
With AntonX's kernel http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1610528
Very good stability and battery life. Prior to this, the best kernel was Bryan's 0.2d, which AntonX started from, so it is very clean.
Approx how is your performance and maybe benchmark scores?
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Benchmarks are for braggarts. I'll just say that this combination does great BlueTooth, GPS and plays all the games I use (Plants vs. Zombies, Angry Birds *, Where's My Water) perfectly.
We're VERY close to having a working CM7, but until BT and GPS work, I can't go there... so no comments.
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IDisposable said:
Yes, me too... and yes... sad that people are such jerks over here.
I'm using Valhalla Black by Raverx3x http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1404863
With AntonX's kernel http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1610528
Very good stability and battery life. Prior to this, the best kernel was Bryan's 0.2d, which AntonX started from, so it is very clean.
Benchmarks are for braggarts. I'll just say that this combination does great BlueTooth, GPS and plays all the games I use (Plants vs. Zombies, Angry Birds *, Where's My Water) perfectly.
We're VERY close to having a working CM7, but until BT and GPS work, I can't go there... so no comments.
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@ younix258: Welcome to the forums. It's good to see you doing your homework. This is my first android phone. Coming from a worn out original Palm Pre, there's just no going back for me.
@ IDisposable: Although I'm new to these forums, I have noticed a bit of bickering back and forth between a few select members. Unfortunately, it appears that we've lost the developers that are the very ones that make / made this entire modding of the Samsung Galaxy S 4G phone possible in the first place. In my opinion, those developers deserve the utmost respect and support from all of us that are benefiting from their hard work. 'Nuff said.
That's exactly the setup I'm running, too. I just finished getting my phone where I want it after loading everything up yesterday. It's running smooth & I'm happy with the results, so far.
The only thing I use benchmarks for is to compare changes I've made to my phone. If i install a tweak or make a change here or there, I do like to see the numbers go up. That way, I can avoid piling a bunch of stuff on my phone that I either don't need, or actually affects my phone in unintended negative ways that I might not possibly understand.
I'm also patiently watching & waiting for development on CM7. It's a good thing that I read the notes on that thread, so I knew beforehand that it's not quite "ready for primetime". Otherwise, I would've been disappointed.
Overall, I feel that the Samsung Galaxy S 4g is a very nice phone. Although it doesn't have the killer specs of the Galaxy SII, it still has a lot of potential and when combined with all of the custom ROMs and tweaks that are available on these XDA forums-- this phone is very far from "dead", in my opinion.
Keep up the good work boys-- keep up the good work!!!
Good answers guy, thanks for being thorough.. yeah what bothered me about this forum is the lack of precise rom info in the rom threads and titles are damn near useless.
But you guys cleared it up.
As a side note, the 959v will be going to my little brother and I'm keeping my 959 lol so while ill be around, ill stick mostly to my OG vibe.
Oh and when cm7 works, that **** will turn heads lol.. just hope battery gets straightened out
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Been using the bullet proof rom since I got this phone about 10 months ago, as much as I would like to switch to something better, I cant because it looks like almost every rom available is pre-alpha pre-beta, comes with a bunch of things not working, or has battery issues.
I know the Doubleshot isnt a popular phone, but this is really starting to suck. Seems to me that someone decides to build a new rom, makes a few updates over 2-3 months, then completely abandons the project due to getting a new phone. Wash, rinse and repeat.
Id love to have a cyanogenmod 7 mod, yet alone 9 for this phone, or even a stock ICS 4.04 rom, but it doesnt look like its ever going to happen with this phone. I think this will be the last HTC phone I buy, ive had 3 of them (one was WinMo 6.0) and none of them had official updates. All I can do now is watch people post a ROM, provide a few updates, then completely abandon the project.
What is the most stable ICS or CM9 rom available? Cause I sure as hell dont see it in the developers forum.
Well....you COULD look about 5 posts below this one and get a clue or two. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1858512
But if you missed that one I can certainly see why the hell you "missed" anything you might like over in the Developer's Section. The real beauty of Android is you can just say "To HELL with the official updates". KWIM?
Usually reading through what others post about a ROM helps make the choice in what to flash. Seems how there are a few recent threads with almost this exact thing I take it your not the reading type? Just because something is labeled alpha or beta does not mean their not stable enough for a daily driver, it just means not everything works. 90% of our "dev threads" are ROMS you would never see ( ie from a different device ) so having them 90% functional, only missing features from the other device ( because ours can't do them ) is great development.
Blue was kind enough to post system.img and boot.img from the latest ota ( links could be shot because of a goo crash ) and dsi made the dsixda kitchen that will cook them images into a rooted Stock ROM. The kitchen will need a file added to tools/edify_defs ( its a script that allows the kitchen to know the partition locations of your device ) because he dropped support a while ago, but it works great as a tool. So you could always start there and once you get some things under your belt you could jump in and lend a hand in this long term support you are seeking?
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I do think that people arrive at your conclusions due to three main reasons:
- The misunderstanding that developers are doing this for the users. ( some may, by far most are not)
- The user mentality of owning a smart phone. You want to have this device as long as you can, and get the most out of it.
Most devs see it another way. They want to stay on the cutting edge and try to break new ground. Regardless of how awesome a device is at launch, you are still looking at a limited window of time before it's old hat.
I think that more and more you will be seeing devs moving on more quickly due to the commercial success of the smart phone. Not just an expensive device for a few, anymore they are a dime a dozen for the many.
I've owned 3 doubleshots, still have two. Have an SGSIII, and am thinking about picking up one of the SGSIII international models.
...and that is fast becoming the M.O. of development. Squeeze out whatever learning you can until you benefit more from newer hardware.
Some devs will work on a device until it's about to or just starting to lose it's resale value so they can minimize the move forward.
- The third - and arguably most important reason - is the average user has no idea how much time, effort but most of all frustration goes into working on a device.
Especially for newer devs. For every one accomplishment, there are many, many failures. Failures that may have taken days of almost around the clock work. Failures that - in order to reach - took the place of spending time with friends, significant others or social gatherings. Giving up that day with your friends at the beach just to spend the whole time working on something that not only doesn't work, but even the parts of it you can salvage aren't useful.
This is what learning is like when you are the steward of your own education. You have to make sacrifices like ignoring your friends and family, cutting down on work hours, blowing off your girlfriend for a box with a screen.
Guess what - that whole graphics project for bulletproof that resulted in a 3 part tutorial? A 70 something hour bender where I walked away from the machine twice for less then ten minutes a pop for a quick bathroom break and to make some ramen noodles.
It was ramen noodles because I stopped working for a few months to learn android and build stuff for the doubleshot. Pennies can only be pinched so far.
...and I can't tell you how much I despise and hate actually doing graphics work. It makes me agitated and angry.
But ya know what? I did it to show what could be done and generate tutorials so other people could do it and free me to do other things, yet still enjoy the visual entertainment/enhancements the community would bring.
...and I was let down, in a big way. No one else really got into doing it. No one else invested the time to make graphical mods to. apk files we have or to sense. ( no slight to the very few of you that did)
You've had this phone for ten months, where are your roms, mods or graphical enhancements and stuff?
You argue that so few get involved - yet you do little to help.
This device was my first step into the dev ring. If I can be as successful at it - no reason you can't too. If you'd rather spend time doing other things, well, you never will learn to dev.
These kind of threads are disheartening. The community survives and thrives through your participation. By not pitching in to help, you are forcing the few that do to bear the weight of all forward development for the device.
Don't complain that we few are burnt out when you can't count yourself amongst us.
This division is one you highlight, while we try to eliminate. Come to our side and help out.
Bulletproof had over 2,000 downloads when I checked last back in march/april. No one used it as a springboard to build on?
At the end of the day...
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What is the most stable ICS or CM9 rom available? Cause I sure as hell dont see it in the developers forum.
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Well....you COULD look about 5 posts below this one and get a clue or two. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1858512
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Oh I saw that, but i'll pass on an alpha build, need something stable, plus im not sure what version of Android thats even based on.
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Well....you COULD look about 5 posts below this one and get a clue or two. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1858512
But if you missed that one I can certainly see why the hell you "missed" anything you might like over in the Developer's Section. The real beauty of Android is you can just say "To HELL with the official updates". KWIM?
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Usually reading through what others post about a ROM helps make the choice in what to flash. Seems how there are a few recent threads with almost this exact thing I take it your not the reading type? Just because something is labeled alpha or beta does not mean their not stable enough for a daily driver, it just means not everything works. 90% of our "dev threads" are ROMS you would never see ( ie from a different device ) so having them 90% functional, only missing features from the other device ( because ours can't do them ) is great development.
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When I see a rom posted in the developers forum, if its based on ICS 4.0 or better, all I do is read the what works and what doesnt work section. For a long time it seemed almost every rom had problems with the SD card being used as a USB Flash drive (meaning I would have to disconnect the SDHC, connect to reader just to copy files). Now the problems tend to either be camera related (which I absolutely need) or battery issues in which it gets hot or drains faster.
So way early on, I was reading through pages upon pages of posts to see if problems get resolved (which often they dont unless they post another build), but now I just read the first page to get to the details (to see whats not working in the rom), then pass when there are too many things not working.
I kinda like the official update, because they tend to be stable.
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Oh I saw that, but i'll pass on an alpha build, need something stable, plus im not sure what version of Android thats even based on.
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U need to lower you rom standards or make the perfect cm9/ics rom. I had a problem with our device not having enough roms until someone explained to me that we don't need 20 diff cm7 roms or 10 diff ics roms. Our devs do a good job so we don't need those the amount of roms we have is good look at the older smartphones and their roms. U see they are not up to date. (Like most of ours)
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lower your rom standards?
K7Cobb said:
U need to lower you rom standards or make the perfect cm9/ics rom. I had a problem with our device not having enough roms until someone explained to me that we don't need 20 diff cm7 roms or 10 diff ics roms. Our devs do a good job so we don't need those the amount of roms we have is good look at the older smartphones and their roms. U see they are not up to date. (Like most of ours)
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lower your rom standards?
i totally agree with the op. i'm not complaining about the great work the devs are doing. they're doing what they do because they love it and that's great. but every rom has issues in the "doesn't work" section and there's no reason us users shouldn't be asking for a rom with nothing left that doesn't work. i mean that should be everyones goal, right?
if there was a single rom with no known issues, i'd be on it in a heart beat. especially a sense-less one. i'd even take gingerbread if it was no known issues.
and as for "we don't need 20 different cm7 roms and 10 different ics roms" ... of course we don't. i'd like to see ONE of each that's fully working.
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lower your rom standards?
i totally agree with the op. i'm not complaining about the great work the devs are doing. they're doing what they do because they love it and that's great. but every rom has issues in the "doesn't work" section and there's no reason us users shouldn't be asking for a rom with nothing left that doesn't work. i mean that should be everyones goal, right?
if there was a single rom with no known issues, i'd be on it in a heart beat. especially a sense-less one. i'd even take gingerbread if it was no known issues.
and as for "we don't need 20 different cm7 roms and 10 different ics roms" ... of course we don't. i'd like to see ONE of each that's fully working.
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Yes thats the goal but if theyve released the rom with 1 or 2 problems then why should it be a problem. I use virtuous infinty and has 2 problems thats it. Dont quote me but i dont think there is a PERFECT ROM. Because again it is a rom not made by the company but our devs. And then again the roms our devs make have less serious problems than the ones companies have
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polarbearmc said:
lower your rom standards?
i totally agree with the op. i'm not complaining about the great work the devs are doing. they're doing what they do because they love it and that's great. but every rom has issues in the "doesn't work" section and there's no reason us users shouldn't be asking for a rom with nothing left that doesn't work. i mean that should be everyones goal, right?
if there was a single rom with no known issues, i'd be on it in a heart beat. especially a sense-less one. i'd even take gingerbread if it was no known issues.
and as for "we don't need 20 different cm7 roms and 10 different ics roms" ... of course we don't. i'd like to see ONE of each that's fully working.
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Then you get the invite to either put up some work, or fall back to the shadows. You guys asking for stuff we do for free in our free time sucks. And to see how unappreciated we are. If we pulled all links everyone that's whining now would be in tears
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Then you get the invite to either put up some work, or fall back to the shadows. You guys asking for stuff we do for free in our free time sucks. And to see how unappreciated we are. If we pulled all links everyone that's whining now would be in tears
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EXACTLY. I'm not a dev but this is what I did not want to happen but seems like nobody can agree
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For those that haven't taken the time to READ to see what others are saying about how a ROM works......well there is no excuse for you and IMHO have no business saying a word about anything. If a person is so smart that they know how things SHOULD work but can't even figure out a few commands in ADB & how to make it work then you're getting things backasswards. Just download it, evaluate it and if you don't expend the friggin' TIME to read then just STFU!
What you're showing is ABSOLUTELY NO RESPECT for the vast amounts of time and effort these developers have sat at home alone into the wee hours of the morning LEARNING by trial & error and collaboration among themselves for their OWN betterment. NOT FOR OURS!!! We are ALL damn lucky that they see fit to share ANYTHING with ANY of us and ask for nothing more that a little honest feedback and an occasional THANK YOU!
now....off my friggin' soapbox
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lower your rom standards?
there's no reason us users shouldn't be asking for a rom with nothing left that doesn't work. i mean that should be everyones goal, right?
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We shouldn't be asking unless we can help in some way, shape or form. As you said, all the devs are doing what they can though we may not be aware of it. Look at how much time Blue put in Bulletproof alone. Kudos Blue!!!
If you want a ROM with no known issues, it exists! Go back to STOCK! LoL One of each ROM that's fully working will not happen because of the reasons that Blue listed and I agree with him completely. And the term "lower your ROM standards" is very fitting to me. It doesn't mean settle for less, but more so just pick the ROM that best suits you. They are there.
My DD right now is MikXE for various reasons and I've never had a single problem with it...at all. I don't use WiFi tethering or WiFi calling but those are features important to some(now I'd LOVE for just 1 feature to be added to it *cough* screenoffmusiccontrol Strapped *cough* LoL), but if it doesn't I'm not going to die. Already perfect in my eyes and I love it the way it is! And Blue's Bulletproof is flawless, everything works!
If a person doesn't like reading then XDA isn't the place to be. Sometimes within the thread there are tips shown that will fix some issues within the ROM that one might not know existed without reading. Then, in other threads there are ways to tweak things to get certain features working in the ROM that may show as not working in the OP...sometimes! Either way, if we want EVERY single feature on the phone working (Even the ones we don't use?) then Stock/Bulletproof is the only way to go. Otherwise, just get a new phone...?
Makes no sense feeling we deserve better for our phones when we have better, but just not up to "our standards". What the devs do...is FREE! As Strapped mentioned, if we had none of these ROMs/Threads, what would we do then? I for one sure as hell don't want to find out!
WELL SAID!!!!
Threads like this sincerely make me sick. I'm an end user ONLY for lack of a viable machine to build on... Somehow i figure building roms on the device isn't feasible (haha!) But my first reaction to this thread was "don't flame the guy don't flame the guy."
These developers have taken what some people get paid to do and enhanced it to almost an art form where they are singularly doing the job that entire DEVELOPMENT teams get paid to do for MONTHS at a time and you have a developer like XMC working on 4 roms at a time AND a kernel and whatever else AND a real job and school or whatever. Seriously if they aren't doing enough for you then code your own dream rom or run miktouch (which ran off stock kernel PERFECTLY for me for the first three months I was rooted).
Besides... What is stable for me might not be for you, or for any of the other end users here. I've ran MikXE, Vanillabean, MikMIUI, CM9 alphas 2-6, Paranoid Android and am currently running Virtuous Infinity alpha 2. ALL have been more than stable enough to function for me with a few quirks... Given i don't depend on Wifi as much as some, but still. Everyone makes a huge deal out of 1080 camcorder but seriously on this screen nobody can tell a resolution difference. I needed gps to work well and calling to work... I was a pizza delivery guy so that was what I needed to be stable.
Seriously to the OP - IF you aren't brave enough to try roms and see what works for you (seeing as how i've had ZERO of the reported bugs i've seen on most of the roms i have run) then stfu and do us all a favor and go back to stock or get a nexus and have a good time. There you can have 50 versions of everything you could ever want to ***** about. OR become a viable member of this great team and contribute. Help test the roms because stability is only a NAND away.
*steps off my soapbox*
And to answer the subject question:
There are plenty of stable roms to choose from. Most every rom here can be used as a daily driver... It just comes down to what YOU can live with as far as bugs go... After all stock had that battery getting really hot "bug" didn't it?
Wifi disconnecting with screen off without an app seems so inconsequential compared to a bug that can fry your device, right? Lets not forget that i've been testing roms and kernels that might've fried my device with only a G1 as a backup LOL.
Oh yeah... And in case you guys missed it...
TBalden, Kornyone, XMC-Wildchild,Strapped365, Sun_Dream, Blue and the rest... You guys kick ass. Let me know if you're ever in Bama and i'll buy you all a beer or several. And... Welcome riyal as well! You have taken my doubleshot from stock hell to the ecstasy that is whatever os i feel like running at any given time.
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Well to tell all the ICS ROMs around here should have been stable already only if we were given ICS updates. Problem is we were not and developers recycle CM source code or ROMs from other HTC devices praying that most of them would work to bring up ICS on our device. Ok that's fine but there are propriety files still missing or incompatible drivers which makes the bugs. Unless some dev would put his life in reverse engineering the missing drivers and stuffs we wouldn't be expecting any stable ICS ROMs here.
@onebornoflight
what did I do? Lol I'm no doubleshot developer yet I'm still at the learning stage just owning this device for almost just a week now. Didn't provide any development stuffs yet
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what did I do? Lol I'm no doubleshot developer yet I'm still at the learning stage just owning this device for almost just a week now. Didn't provide any development stuffs yet
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You have started contributing - that kernel in the virtuous beta post is a contribution - see you HAVE provided dev type stuff...
Or would you prefer to be unincluded LOL?
And welcome btw!
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I used a hasoon toolkit to root my phone and all that clockwork stuff... and the I used a tool to fastboot the cm9 boot.img..and then flashed the cm9 rom by kornyone.. ITS AWESOME... ICS FTW ON MT4GS....Ifeel like I got a new phone the rom is stable there is literally only one thing wrong with it and that's the front camera is upside down when using gtalk vid chat....but that doesn't matter... its still awesomely awesome
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jesusjv95 said:
I used a hasoon toolkit to root my phone and all that clockwork stuff... and the I used a tool to fastboot the cm9 boot.img..and then flashed the cm9 rom by kornyone.. ITS AWESOME... ICS FTW ON MT4GS....Ifeel like I got a new phone the rom is stable there is literally only one thing wrong with it and that's the front camera is upside down when using gtalk vid chat....but that doesn't matter... its still awesomely awesome
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Crap.... There's a fix for that somewhere in another kernel I think. I can't remember which one though.
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Crap.... There's a fix for that somewhere in another kernel I think. I can't remember which one though.
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Its fixed in the latest alphas, should also be fixed in the latest "stable". But run alpha 5 its the most stable. Overall
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How do you think this would affect us?
http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/0...me-with-new-experimental-virtualization-tech/
To me, it almost seems like a way of dual-booting but... simultaneously, pretty much. I think I could work/deal with this if it ever comes down to it. It sounds like even if radio functions weren't on one ROM, we could just have a fully working Gingerbread, or even a hackfest on the otherside carrying the team.
Of course, even this tech is still in it's early stages.
What do you guys think? Devs, would this possibly solve some issues?
Probably not the MAIN one.
Edit: "getting"? ... I meant get. ._.
Link
Ummmmm...
You mean like this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2111234
LOL
Wait just checked out your link... NEVERMIND
Interesting read.
SefEXE said:
How do you think this would affect us?
http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/0...me-with-new-experimental-virtualization-tech/
To me, it almost seems like a way of dual-booting but... simultaneously, pretty much. I think I could work/deal with this if it ever comes down to it. It sounds like even if radio functions weren't on one ROM, we could just have a fully working Gingerbread, or even a hackfest on the otherside carrying the team.
Of course, even this tech is still in it's early stages.
What do you guys think? Devs, would this possibly solve some issues?
Probably not the MAIN one.
Edit: "getting"? ... I meant get. ._.
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This device often runs out of RAM if you use a lot of apps simultaneously, so I can't imagine running TWO android ROMs at the same time. The Out of memory killer will get crazy!
Mazout360 said:
This device often runs out of RAM if you use a lot of apps simultaneously, so I can't imagine running TWO android ROMs at the same time. The Out of memory killer will get crazy!
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Hmm, hadn't thought of that. Well, maybe someone could make some kind of severly gimped rom that only runs the radio?
I still doubt that would help out the memory TOO much, but.. I dunno... Maybe like a 2.2/2.3 ROM?
This is all still just wishes and hopes for now, though.
I wouldn't mind having a 2nd rom used purely for calling and texting
Interesting read indeed. Although, by the time technology and proper coding permits something like this most of us would have probably moved on to another device. Although I plan on keeping my g2x for as long devs keep making roms, kernals and mods for it.
However I'm currently running eagles blood ics 4.0.4. And I mist say its the closest to a fully functioning ics rom on this phone that I can tell. I wouldn't be planning to flash cm7 on it if it weren't tor the inability to record video and wifi calling.....these are the only 2 functions that do not work....that I unfortunately need. The customization is fairly good on stock settings, stock kernal is fast, battery is good enough and the voltage is completely tweakable if you want to make it last longer.
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